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Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by cfours: 5:07am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Onlytruth: you are really daft, i swear. yar'adull is dead, gone and buried. why would anyone waste precious insult on him? use your brain, bro. next, you will start perusing all the threads looking for sani abacha insults to compare ratio with badluck jonathan? are you that slow? 4 Likes |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by manny4life(m): 5:08am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Hmm |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by dayokanu(m): 5:17am On Feb 19, 2013 |
c.fours: Spot on. The dude is really daft, I cant believe an adult would be reasoning like a moronn. Looking for Online posts abusing IBB and Abacha . Was there Internet during the IBB/Abacha days? And the daft guy is now making a shortlist of insults? What a bumbling oaf. I am certain his IQ would be less than his shoe size. His stupidity is legendary. If they convert his stupidity to Kilowatts then the Electricity problem of the whole West Africa would be solved 4 Likes |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by miiraaj: 5:19am On Feb 19, 2013 |
PointB: Someone that claims to have a brain, making such comments! Nigeria is in trouble. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by aljharem(m): 5:23am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Onlytruth: Kindly read what Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu wrote about Chief Obafemi Awolowo in his book "Because I Am Involved" page 159- 160. In political terms, he would be considered an adversary of the igbos given the intense rivalry between him and Dr Nnamdi Azikwe. As a leader of the modern cast, he has left Nigeria standards which are indelible, standards beside which future aspirants to public leadership can be eternally measured. He was firm, articulate, painstaking, and uncompromising. He was, for a long time, the only Nigerian leader who enunciated principles and played down personalities. He was a brilliant political administrator and a most erudite teacher. He not only identified himself wholly with the aspirations of the Yoruba people of Nigeria but also he was able to convince the Yoruba people of Nigeria that he and only he epitomized the highest point of their political aspirations and consciousness. He was loved, he was feared but above all he belonged to the people he professed to lead. At his death I had the singular honour of proposing for him the epitaph that has endured – ‘he was the best President that Nigeria never had’. Many have wondered what I meant by this, but I believe the statement was clear. Nigeria would have benefited from his presidency because of his inate presidential qualities. Nigeria must continually regret that he never, for many reasons, had the opportunity to serve at the presidential level. Awo was a leader of great stature. He was a leader who was eminently successful. That he did not fulfill a presidential ambition cannot detract from his leadership, and us, poor us, who were not his people, must continue, to regret that our own leaders had not led us as he did his people or achieved for us as he did for his people. He perceived his job as leading his people and God his soul. He did a lot for them. Whenever he saw an opportunity for his people, he went for it. He had a dream for the Yorubas and was steadfast in the pursuit of that dream. He knew where he was going and took his people with him without deceit. That is why he will remain immortal in the area of his influence. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by aljharem(m): 5:23am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Adejoro74: 5:52am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Why is APC goading Fasola, who has not even expressed an interest, to run for the presidency? The same Fasola who deported fellow Nigerians from his state. Why are they pushing Buhari who has been tried and tested and failed as a national leader? Why are they doing same for Tambuwal who is not even in their party? Why are they not doing same for Ngige who is an APC party leader? Or for Utomi (also an APC member) who is is from SS, even if Igbo? Why are Yorubas bent on derailing GEJ's presidency? Is it because they perceive him as a minority? Remember they called him an ogogoro-drinking fisherman. 4 Likes |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by manny4life(m): 5:55am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Other than security and corruption, I think GEJ has done fairly well, although he has his weakness and criticisms . Although security is gradually calming down and transparency in corruption has really improved. We just need stronger and tougher laws to prosecute. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by seunfly: 6:39am On Feb 19, 2013 |
pazienza:my friend yoruba never voted OBJ it was PDP usual thing(rigging) that happend, what did u think happend to Bola Ige that time? It was because of his underground talk with then gen buhari's ANPP that lead to his assasination and all other state were rigged except lagos. My peaple are not sentimentals like others that justifies wrong doing because their peaple are in power, during Obj term in office yorubas are his biggest critics u can find out the number of court case filed by gani fawemi, protest from diffrent group in lagos and how western media lambasted him. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Adejoro74: 6:44am On Feb 19, 2013 |
seunfly: You 'hediotic'' liar. Who did they vote for in 2003? |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by miiraaj: 7:03am On Feb 19, 2013 |
dayokanu: Bross, the level of stupidity of most of these SS/SE people is really baffling, just like the ever clueless Reetardeen! |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Nobody: 7:38am On Feb 19, 2013 |
PROUD-IGBO:Oh my Gawwd, a reta.rd and an illiterate in one body.... the devil must really be having fun. What question did I change u freaking lunatic? Can you read? Or is comprhension the problem? Do you even see what u quoted above? Arent they asking the same thing: WHEN DID I SAY OJUKWU WAS THE CAUSE OF SARO-WIWA's death?! Yes I stand by what I said because it is the truth. Whatever was conjecture, rumors or assumption, I clearly stated it. 1. Did Ojukwu, on at least one occasion, overseas, state that Ken Saro-Wiwa deserved to die? Emphatic and resounding Yes! Yes!! Yes!!! Dispute it if you can. If not u can go on being an emotionally, whiny lil biyyytch. What I state is fact! 2. Did Ojuwku sign the Government Register as a witness to Mr.Saro-Wiwa's death? Emphatic and resounding YES!!! This is fact. Dispute it if you want out of emotion, that's your fc.uking problem, I state the truth as I've seen it. 3. Now, did Ojukwu insist on witnessing Saro-Wiwa being murdered? I don't know that for sure, neither do you; but my statements show where I lean. Why? Ojukwu, as far as we know was not a member of the court that tried and convicted Sarow-Wiwa, he wasnt a member of his family, nor was he a member of the family of those whom Saro-Wiwa was accused of causing their deaths. He wasn't in charge of the gallows; SO, WHY WAS HE THERE TO WITNESS THE HANGING?!? In law this is what we call " circumstantial evidence"' , you illiterate buffoon. Lemme hip you to another word fondly used in law: MOTIVE. What was his motive for being present as a witness to the hanging? 4. Did Ojukwu go to witness the death because he felt it was payback for Saro-Wiwa's "betrayal" of Biafra? Refer to #3--- and especially my last sentence--- for your answer. Remember too that Ojukwu never hid his disdain for Ken Saro-Wiwa. 5. Did Ojukwu get a video recording of the hanging and then hand it over to Gen.Abacha? Like I stated earlier, this falls under "conjecture" and rumors and could very likely be false, but when put together alongside facts like: a. similar actions and worse have happened in Africa. And; b. Ojukwu publicly supported the death sentence, he had no reason to witness the hanging but was there non the less during Ken Saro-Wiwa's final moments (after publicly supporting the sentence) C. He (Ojukwu) signed Mr.Saro-Wiwa's death register as a GOVERNMENT WITNESS.... By the preponderance of the evidence, theres much reason to believe that this "rumor" could very well have been true. You can cry all you want. Get all emotional...bro, na ur wahala be that. If you have disputing evidence, put it forth and let the court of public opinion decide instead of thinking you will bully me with accusations of being a tribalist in order to stop me from speaking the truth. 1 Like |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Nobody: 8:34am On Feb 19, 2013 |
pazienza: As usual, the bogey man is in walls, shadows and pictures. Learn to take criticism, that's how u learn. I constantly deride people like OBJ and IBB you don't see Hausas and Yorubas crying and accusing me of being from this tribe or that tribe. With u Fu.kcas it's a different story, if you're not accusing the person of being from another tribe, you're accusing them of being Osu. The sooner you realize youre not perfect the better for you. Even mentioning Akala, to u, was a "trick" to hide my sudden hatred for all things Igbo. But since it's animals like urself and Onlylies that are saying it, I can't be bothered. Ha dey chiye onye na ba so njo maka o ga na ba so so njo na uloeze. That's the case with u idi.ots and you still don't get it. Whether online, in politics, or even sometimes in everyday convo, it's all kinds of crap emanating from your mouths, and you want people to take you serious? Lmao When you grow up, you won't have to beg, bully, threaten, or seek sympathy from people--- they will see if for themselves. 2 Likes |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by 9javoice1(m): 8:56am On Feb 19, 2013 |
by c.fours: Don't mind these yeye igbo fools. OP is a igbo boy pretending to be allied with SS. It is the SS folks I pity. they shouldn't allow themselves to be pushed around by the empty brained tribalistic easterners.. 1) How else do you want to achive that apart from gang up? 2) are you in anyway telling us that SW only interested in president tht suits them not realy for the good of this nation? 3) how on earth do yorubas decides to allied wit fulanis of this world in this time of our existence.when it is clear to us all that fulanis are on mission to conqure us all? |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by saintohia: 9:44am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Onlytruth: ^^^^^^ The bottom line is about controlling the oil in another persons' backyard. Thank God everybody is awake, anxiously waiting for them. No amount of preaching would deceive anybody, it's only the dead that stays dumb, huh? 1 Like |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by emmatok(m): 10:03am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Onlytruth: You forget the the most critic of OBJ are the Yorubas. Even when Festus Odimegwu was supporting him. 1 Like |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Elueme: 11:31am On Feb 19, 2013 |
Thank you @ OP. this is another conspiracy against the South South, before it was SouthEast and the SS were not discerning enough to understand though they now know better. There is nothing this president will do that will appease these rabble grazers and tribal apologists who feel they are the epitome of knowledge and leadership even when it's so glaringly clear the difference their leadership and that of GEJ in just three Years has brought to governance. To set the re ord straight, GEJ 3 yrs is more rewarding in terms of civility, fairer electoral process, economic indices and infrastructural development compared to the duo of Obj and Yar Adua. Let's not e en talk about the northern military who dragged us down to almost a point of irredeemable loss but thanks for Gid's intervention. Let's see how this surreptitious coup play out!! 1 Like |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Elueme: 11:34am On Feb 19, 2013 |
emmatok:Stop being mischievous. I was conscious and politically enlightened enough to understand that the criticisms OBasanjo got from the south westerners were based on the control of the south western region not on performance. May I remember that wole Soyinka was mute in most part of Obasanjo's 8 years tenure? |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by emmatok(m): 12:03pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
Elueme: Stop being mischievous. I was conscious and politically enlightened enough to understand that the criticisms OBasanjo got from the south westerners were based on the control of the south western region not on performance. May I remember that wole Soyinka was mute in most part of Obasanjo's 8 years tenure? Soyinka mute? Probably you were not in Nigeria during OBJ regime. Lies. 2 Likes |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by ba7man(m): 12:06pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
No one is ganging up against anyone. All what sensible Nigerians need is Leaders regardless of their tribe, nationality or party that will lead this country out of the mess it is....... PDP has had their day and have proven time and time again that they are a cesspit of corruption...... GEJ isn't confidence inspiring as long as they keep releasing Boko-Haram members under his watch......, Corrupt politicians continue to reign supreme under his Govt....., always resorting to prayers and neglecting action......, always condemning terrorist attacks without carrying out decisive actions to bring it to an end....., he radiates an unconvincing aura and he acts lily-livered. We need a strong decisive leaders that are clearly motivated and result oriented. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Mandelaguy(m): 12:13pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
alj harem:Read with understanding, he was a pure tribalist by all standards, what Ojukwu was saying is that " maybe" maybe, if he had been a president and transferred the same fervour to Nigerian affairs, he would probably be the best. Elueme: Thank you @ OP. this is another conspiracy against the South South, before it was SouthEast and the SS were not discerning enough to understand though they now know better.you can clearly see where I stand on this issue, this country is suffering as a result of greedy alliances formed on conspiracy and ethnic hate over time. I am not a tribalist, but I will not turn blind eye to the tribal hate which is the political undercurrent that keeps thwarting the right pathway in the quest for a confederated and stable Nigerian government. I refuse to accept that it is as a result of the fall out of the civil war, because it is on record what the various regional leaders said at independence, and the attendant events that led to Aburi and the ensuing civil war. SE cannot be accused of been tribal,reason is that it is only this tribe that settles amicably anywhere they are earning any form of livelihood, they inter marry easily, build houses and settle, not because they are been pursued from home, but because of their liberal spirit. They learn languages easily and make anywhere their home. How many hausas build a habitable house outside their region? How many yorubas do same? If you don't perceive your brother across the Niger suspiciously without love, won't you take his home as yours and get involved in wealth creation? This is why at any sign of turbulence, the South Easterners are targetted first, their properties are destroyed, their lives taken, because these so called brothers across the Niger are so sure they have nothing much to lose outside their regions. As fate will have it, the cradle of wealth in the country SS emerged against all odds and their son, who is first a Nigerian became the president, the North boils (taking it as a slap on their birthright) and the SW (known for their selfish alignments) are queuing in, forgetting that we carry the same paasports and are supposed to be gunning for the establishment of a vibrant economy, building on our commonwealth and rising above stupid, and lousy sentiments, bearing in mind that despite the colour or tongue, all humans originate from one source and that we did not choose the place of our birth. If I was born into a Moslem family in the north, I would have been a Northerner, then a Moslem by virtue of the fact that it happens to be my birthplace and that I became a Christian and a Southerner because fate and not you or I choose my birthplace. People, wake up and smell the coffee, life in this country would be better if we truely and sincere embrace one another and decide to live as the other lives or atleast tolerate, knowing that their cultures, beliefs, emotions, interpretations and views are as a result of thir roots. 2 Likes |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Sealeddeal(m): 3:38pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
There is no north anymore.Op is giving a unity to north which they are aware they do not have.North Central(middle belt) have always maintained their support for GEJ.I do not see APC as a gang-up against SS. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Elueme: 4:05pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
emmatok:You were probably living in the arctics hen OBasanjo was in power. The Yorubas including Soyinka kept mute in most part of his administration even in the face of misrule, why they were so quick to sell their birthright by backing the man from Ota for a second term in 2011. They became antagonistic after it had become clear that the man from Ota had deceived them into losing their territory to the PDP. I have stayed long enough with the Yorubas to understand their mentality but this time, we all know what each other knows 1 Like |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Nobody: 5:18pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
c.fours: Yes, you are right with the bold...the chances of David Mark (an Idoma) becoming a President way before an Ibo is high.. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Nobody: 5:20pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
c.fours: No...he is not slow....he is a LEARNER.. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Adejoro74: 5:26pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Ode! Igbos got their presidents before your Yoruba ever dreamt of it. We are looking now for round three and rightly so,being the fathers of Nigeria. Does President Zik and Head of State Ironsi mean anything to you? 1 Like |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
Adejoro74: Awwwww....Zik? you must be very young then...a President but not the C-I-C is what they termed ceremonial..go and read your history book. We weren't even practicing this hue of democracy then... Ironsi? give me a break pluzzzeeeeeee! You are a joke. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Adejoro74: 5:43pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
ilugunboy: Keep deceiving yourself. What does Nigeria's official record say about those two? Do you plan on erasing that record, seeing that you ngbatis can do anything, including sleeping with your mamas, to undermine Igbos. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by Nobody: 7:53pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
FSU: APC: SW and North ganging up against SS?this propaganda no dey tire una...... ThanGod, the SouthSouth play better politics than Propaganda....which is exclusive to SE with nothing to show for it!!! |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by emmatok(m): 8:33pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
Elueme: You were probably living in the arctics hen OBasanjo was in power. The Yorubas including Soyinka kept mute in most part of his administration even in the face of misrule, why they were so quick to sell their birthright by backing the man from Ota for a second term in 2011. They became antagonistic after it had become clear that the man from Ota had deceived them into losing their territory to the PDP. I have stayed long enough with the Yorubas to understand their mentality but this time, we all know what each other knows I see you love spinning facts. Even your Igbo brothers know that was one of the greatest critic of OBJ, for 8 years. But you are here denying it. |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by lagcity(m): 9:35pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
Onlytruth: The other thing worth stating is that I would like the Eastern minorities to now see how Yoruba see a minority president. You must really think people are fools. Whatever economic growth Nigeria is witnessing is in spite of GEJ, not because of him. The huge population of Nigeria and skyrocketing oil prices are not the doing of GEJ. Besides, OBJ had the foresight to recruit people like Iweala and Soludo to work for Nigeria. OBJ laid that foundation that is giving GEJ a lift up till now. It is also on record that while ibos sat on the fence, Yoruba fought for GEJ's rights even when he was too clueless to assert himself. He turned his guns on Yoruba/Lagos and he will pay dearly for it. I'm sure the Ijaws and minorities see through your paternalistic bullsh1t. If they don't, too bad. Yes, we are on a power grab and are not shy about it. Is that a crime? You ibos should grab power too if you feel you can handle it. Stop whining like weakings and make moves. We are not babysitting you people anymore. 1 Like |
Re: APC: SW And North Ganging Up Against SS? by lagcity(m): 9:50pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
I just hope the Ijaws can see how ibos are pushing their son to his grave with their sycophancy. I mean, what kind of friend refuses to tell you the truth when you are ruining the country? This is the kind of killer friendship ibos offer in the hope that GEJ hands over to an ibo in 2019. What a bunch of losers and dreamers . Even Asari Dokubo and Tam David West have cried out that certain people (read ibos) are pushing Jonathan in the wrong direction for selfish gains. If you are wise, you will know that in the long run, your true friend is the one who tells you the truth. 1 Like |
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