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Body of Christ, den of inequity.

https://www.nairaland.com/1207720/catholic-priests-homosexality-churchs-attitude

The catholic church should just do the most logical and humane thing for their clergy: Allow them to marry. The continuous suppression of natural s.exual expression would definitely rewire the brain to cause unnatural s.exual expressions including homos.exuality, bestiality, pedophilia, etc.

okeyxyz: The catholic church should just do the most logical and humane thing for their clergy: Allow them to marry. The continuous suppression of natural s.exual expression would definitely rewire the brain to cause unnatural s.exual expressions including homos.exuality, bestiality, pedophilia, etc.

Homosexuality and paedophilia is far more prevalent in the larger society than it is within the Catholic Church... And these other people are allowed to marry.

Do you still think "marriage" is the problem?

italo:

Homosexuality and paedophilia is far more prevalent in the larger society than it is within the Catholic Church... And these other people are allowed to marry.

Do you still think "marriage" is the problem?

Did you not read the write up that said over half of the clergy, if not more, are into that lifestyle. Do you mean to tell me over half of the male population in the world are gay and pedophiles?

italo:

Homosexuality and paedophilia is far more prevalent in the larger society than it is within the Catholic Church... And these other people are allowed to marry.

Do you still think "marriage" is the problem?

The sooner catholics(I come from a catholic background btw) begin to confront the truth the better for them. I can bet that over 60% of catholic clergy including reverend fathers and nuns are s.exual deviants. I believe a 100% of strict adherents(Yes, I said strict. That they don't marry does not mean they don't engage in s.exual activity) It's not possible that one would refuse nature without consequences. And the few who are are still straight, I can reason they remain straight because they engage in s.exual affairs with the opposite sex. That has got to be the only way they manage to maintain some s.exual sanity.

okeyxyz:

The sooner catholics(I come from a catholic background btw) begin to confront the truth the better for them. I can bet that over 60% of catholic clergy including reverend fathers and nuns are s.exual deviants. I believe a 100% of strict adherents(Yes, I said strict. That they don't marry does not mean they don't engage in s.exual activity) It's not possible that one would refuse nature without consequences. And the few who are are still straight, I can reason they remain straight because they engage in s.exual affairs with the opposite sex. That has got to be the only way they manage to maintain some s.exual sanity.

u have a rather shallow knowledge of human sexuality.

italo:

Homosexuality and paedophilia is far more prevalent in the larger society than it is within the Catholic Church... And these other people are allowed to marry.

Do you still think "marriage" is the problem?

Not true.
Statistically, Compared to the larger society, so far ,the [b]number of REPORTED cases [/b]of child abuse and homosexual activity is disproportionally higher for the catholic priesthood.
If we could guestimate the number of unreported and covered cases, one would get the full picture that the catholic preisthood is nothing but an exulted cult of paedophiles.

Ubenedictus: u have a rather shallow knowledge of human sexuality.

Maybe you can enlighten us better? It's just not enough to write as few, non-committal words as above and believe you'd made some point.

Ticking ke? I thought it had blown big time with the pdoepriests!

okeyxyz:

Maybe you can enlighten us better? It's just not enough to write as few, non-committal words as above and believe you'd made some point.

i would rather let it be.

Society needs to stop treating these people as if they are special. We've turned a blind eye to their atrocities for too long and that's why they're so corrupt. We need to start arresting and jailing them every time they are caught misbehaving, starting with the protector of ped0philes and racketeer-in-chief Joseph Ratzinger. If governments would just do their jobs and apply already existing organized crime laws to the catholic church, there would be no child sex abuse scandal.

Claiming to talk to god doesn't make you above society's laws.

Evil Brain: Society needs to stop treating these people as if they are special. We've turned a blind eye to their atrocities for too long and that's why they're so corrupt. We need to start arresting and jailing them every time they are caught misbehaving, starting with the protector of ped0philes and racketeer-in-chief Joseph Ratzinger. If governments would just do their jobs and apply already existing organized crime laws to the catholic church, there would be no child sex abuse scandal.

Claiming to talk to god doesn't make you above society's laws.

hahaha, u should go get your personal army to arrest innocent people

kmcutez:
Did you not read the write up that said over half of the clergy, if not more, are into that lifestyle. Do you mean to tell me over half of the male population in the world are gay and pedophiles?

I read it. I don't believe it. The fact that the man is an ex-seminarian does not mean I should believe what he says. I have lived as a Catholic in Nigeria for many many years and haven't come across a person who tells me he/she has actually had a sexual encounter with a Catholic clergy. By the way, don't forget that Rev. Sisters are also celibate. How many cases of sexual immorality have you heard amongst them.

On the contrary, almost 100% of the girls/ladies who have been close to me have admitted that an adult (who is usually a family member or family friend) has molested or attempted to molest them in their childhood.

You can do a survey yourself... Ask the ladies or even guys in your life. Don't just take in every bad thing you hear about the Catholic Church because you don't like it. Ask yourself a question. Why is no one talking about the good the Church does? Obviously there is a smear campaign going on.

okeyxyz:
The sooner catholics(I come from a catholic background btw) begin to confront the truth the better for them. I can bet that over 60% of catholic clergy including reverend fathers and nuns are s.exual deviants. I believe a 100% of strict adherents(Yes, I said strict. That they don't marry does not mean they don't engage in s.exual activity) It's not possible that one would refuse nature without consequences. And the few who are are still straight, I can reason they remain straight because they engage in s.exual affairs with the opposite sex. That has got to be the only way they manage to maintain some s.exual sanity.

Are you a Christian?

If you are,

You are saying nobody can live without sex?

Jesus and St. Paul weren't married. What about them?

plaetton:
Not true.
Statistically, Compared to the larger society, so far ,the [b]number of REPORTED cases [/b]of child abuse and homosexual activity is disproportionally higher for the catholic priesthood.
If we could guestimate the number of unreported and covered cases, one would get the full picture that the catholic preisthood is nothing but an exulted cult of paedophiles.

1. Since when did all "REPORTED cases" become true?

2. Give us concrete statistics. How many Catholic priests exist and how many have been proved or "reported" to be paedophiles and sexual abusers?

Anyone that thinks or says that paedophlia and general sexual abuse is peculiar to Catholic priests is just either a fool or a hypocrite.

italo:

Are you a Christian?

100%

If you are,

You are saying nobody can live without sex?

Jesus and St. Paul weren't married. What about them?

Yes!! I'm saying no one can live without s.ex except something is wrong with their s.exuality, Maybe a medical disorder that has affected his\her s.exual development thereby rendering him\her as.exual.

About Jesus; I give you a wisdom: why do you think he was born without s.ex? We can logically infer that Jesus was as.exual, arising from the nature of his conception. That was not normal. It was for a purpose, which christians don't even consider why. They simply declare it a miracle and go on to aspire to be like that as.exual jesus. It is not god's purpose for anybody to be asexual, infact as.exuality is an abomination(There's a lot I can tell about this,but not now). Those who revere asexuality don't know understand christianity one bit.

Another lack of understanding in mainstream christianity: Paul was not married does not mean he was not having s.ex. Before you shout "fornication", let me just tell you that sex between two single, unmarried persons is not fornication. There's no where in the bible where such act is described as fornication. It is misinformation\misunderstanding that has lead religious leaders to ascribe fornication it.

italo: Anyone that thinks or says that paedophlia and general sexual abuse is peculiar to Catholic priests is just either a fool or a hypocrite.

No!! pedophilia and homos.exuality is not particular to the catholic church but they are very prevalent in it because of the unnatural conditions they subject their clergy to. When you suppress your natural urges, then your brain will only find alternative ways of expressing them. It's as simple as that. Pedophilia and homosexuality are due to psychological disorders. A few are born this way while the rest develop these disorders in the course of time through social\mental traumas, anxieties and complexes. Now the "celibacy" conditions of catholic clergy is a strong causing factor of these disorders.

okeyxyz:
100%


Yes!! I'm saying no one can live without s.ex except something is wrong with their s.exuality, Maybe a medical disorder that has affected his\her s.exual development thereby rendering him\her as.exual.

About Jesus; I give you a wisdom: why do you think he was born without s.ex? We can logically infer that Jesus was as.exual, arising from the nature of his conception. That was not normal. It was for a purpose, which christians don't even consider why. They simply declare it a miracle and go on to aspire to be like that as.exual jesus. It is not god's purpose for anybody to be asexual, infact as.exuality is an abomination(There's a lot I can tell about this,but not now). Those who revere asexuality don't know understand christianity one bit.

Another lack of understanding in mainstream christianity: Paul was not married does not mean he was not having s.ex. Before you shout "fornication", let me just tell you that sex between two single, unmarried persons is not fornication. There's no where in the bible where such act is described as fornication. It is misinformation\misunderstanding that has lead religious leaders to ascribe fornication it.

hahaha, sex between single people isn't fornication then pls define fornication

okeyxyz:

No!! pedophilia and homos.exuality is not particular to the catholic church but they are very prevalent in it because of the unnatural conditions they subject their clergy to. When you suppress your natural urges, then your brain will only find alternative ways of expressing them. It's as simple as that. Pedophilia and homosexuality are due to psychological disorders. A few are born this way while the rest develop these disorders in the course of time through social\mental traumas, anxieties and complexes. Now the "celibacy" conditions of catholic clergy is a strong causing factor of these disorders.

i think even the bible contradict you as christ said 'some will be celibate for the sake of the kingdom of GOD'. And yet you claim no one can live without sex.

Ubenedictus: hahaha, sex between single people isn't fornication then pls define fornication

Read your bible with any bible concordance\dictionary. Nowhere does it say fornication to be sex between two single, unmarried individuals. It was defined as illicit\unnatural\impure sex. Any sex between adult, consenting male & female cannot be fornication. You are still carrying on with the religious definition of fornication introduced by the roman-state church after it absorbed christianity...

Ubenedictus: i think even the bible contradict you as christ said 'some will be celibate for the sake of the kingdom of GOD'. And yet you claim no one can live without sex.

You misunderstand again. Again read your bible with any bible concordance\dictionary to get the proper perspectives. Jesus said: some are born eunuchs(impotent), some are made eunuchs(castrated) while some for the sake of the kingdom made themselves eunuchs; meaning they refused to marry and raise a family. It did not mean they refused to have s.ex.

Ubenedictus: hahaha, sex between single people isn't fornication then pls define fornication

Mr okeyxyz is correct. Go back to your bible and read up on fornication again.

okeyxyz:

Read your bible with any bible concordance\dictionary. Nowhere does it say fornication to be sex between two single, unmarried individuals. It was defined as illicit\unnatural\impure sex. Any sex between adult, consenting male & female cannot be fornication. You are still carrying on with the religious definition of fornication introduced by the roman-state church after it absorbed christianity...

True be dis.

@ Okeyz and Kmcutez,

What is this abomination that you are speaking. Why are you so-called "christians" so opposed to the truth that you would rather speak all manner of lies and blasphemy and heresy rather than accept the truth.

Now you have gone to the extent of saying it was the Catholic Church that made fornication (sex between unmarried people) a sin, not God.

Read 1 Cor 7: 1-9:

"1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."

You are contradicting St. Paul's words and teachings.

italo: @ Okeyz and Kmcutez,

What is this abomination that you are speaking. Why are you so-called "christians" so opposed to the truth that you would rather speak all manner of lies and blasphemy and heresy rather than accept the truth.

Now you have gone to the extent of saying it was the Catholic Church that made fornication (sex between unmarried people) a sin, not God.

Read 1 Cor 7: 1-9:

"1 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."

You are contradicting St. Paul's words and teachings.

help me tell dem.

italo: @ Okeyz and Kmcutez,

What is this abomination that you are speaking. Why are you so-called "christians" so opposed to the truth that you would rather speak all manner of lies and blasphemy and heresy rather than accept the truth.

Now you have gone to the extent of saying it was the Catholic Church that made fornication (sex between unmarried people) a sin, not God.

1 Cor 7:2
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man
have his own wife, and let every woman have her
own husband.

In the statement above, the word "own" means that
there must have been at least one married woman
or man being slept with by a person/group of persons, and Paul was
simply telling them in order
to avoid fornication, to have their own wife/husband
instead.

kmcutez:
1 Cor 7:2
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man
have his own wife, and let every woman have her
own husband.

In the statement above, the word "own" means that
there must have been at least one married woman
or man being slept with by a person/group of persons, and Paul was
simply telling them in order
to avoid fornication, to have their own wife/husband
instead.

Daughter of God, why don't you fear God, forget argument and accept the truth?

God hates any sex that is outside of marriage...whatever you call it. But you and Okeyz say its okay for two unmarried consenting adults to have sex.

Hebrews 13:4 - "Marriage [is] honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."

Are whoremongers and their whores not unmarried consenting adults? Look at what God says about them.

Quit this shamelessness!

italo:

Daughter of God, why don't you fear God, forget argument and accept the truth?

God hates any sex that is outside of marriage...whatever you call it. But you and Okeyz say its okay for two unmarried consenting adults to have sex.

Hebrews 13:4 - "Marriage [is] honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."

Are whoremongers and their whores not unmarried consenting adults? Look at what God says about them.

Quit this shamelessness!

interesting

italo:

Daughter of God, why don't you fear God, forget argument and accept the truth?

God hates any sex that is outside of marriage...whatever you call it. But you and Okeyz say its okay for two unmarried consenting adults to have sex.

Hebrews 13:4 - "Marriage [is] honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."

Are whoremongers and their whores not unmarried consenting adults? Look at what God says about them.

Quit this shamelessness!

What is your definition of whoremonger and an adulterer? Did you check for the definition of fornication with your concordance.

Whoremongers and their whores are under the definition of fornication because it is illicit sex.

That is the kind of quagmire that you fall into when you make truth your enemy.

First, you agreed with Okeyz that sex between two consenting unmarried adults can never be wrong.

...Then you say that sex between two consenting unmarried adults (a whoremonger and his LovePeddler) is wrong.

You're obviously confused, aren't you?