Find attached all the links from ape to man.

They are not chronological though.

Evolution is justified after-all.

Ask your questions and i will answer

i believe in evolution but i do not believe that the current homo sapien evolved in 1 place (say Africa) and then moved elsewhere. I believe the final stage to have taken place independently in many different parts of the Globe, eventually resulting in the formation of the Separate distinct Greater Ethnic groups and finally further dividing into the tribes of today. Evolution is an on going process if given the correct time and conditions. Thus you find people from herding tribes much taller than those from settled tribes, etc. the destruction of the naturally formed tribes is thus very dangerous.

PAGAN 9JA:
i believe in evolution but i do not believe that the current homo sapien evolved in 1 place (say Africa) and then moved elsewhere. I believe the final stage to have taken place independently in many different parts of the Globe, eventually resulting in the formation of the Separate distinct Greater Ethnic groups and finally further dividing into the tribes of today. Evolution is an on going process if given the correct time and conditions. Thus you find people from herding tribes much taller than those from settled tribes, etc. the destruction of the naturally formed tribes is thus very dangerous.

@unbold: then you are a supporter of the multiple source hypothesis, you know we have two, out of Africa and the multiple source stuff. Genetic analysis has proved that all men had same ancestors and fossil record proved the order, making the out of Africa "hypothesis" actually a theory.

@bold: you are so right about that. Remember that the post is about the evolution of MAN not RACES! judging from that perspective, you still believe in out of Africa. You are right about the races, we all adapted to different regions, which is why i have a boring, dull dark skin in the first place (am thinking of changing it).

ooman:

@unbold: then you are a supporter of the multiple source hypothesis, you know we have two, out of Africa and the multiple source stuff. Genetic analysis has proved that all men had same ancestors and fossil record proved the order, making the out of Africa "hypothesis" actually a theory.

@bold: you are so right about that. Remember that the post is about the evolution of MAN not RACES! judging from that perspective, you still believe in out of Africa. You are right about the races, we all adapted to different regions, which is why i have a boring, dull dark skin in the first place (am thinking of changing it)

Oh i didnt know my theory had a name as well. I will stick to my muliple hypothesis theory. because i have some reasons . im still conducting indpendant research.

If you talk about us all coming from 1 source, then it maybe even so that even other animals, fish etc., come from the same source as us. maybe a single bacterial microrganism. so no i was talking about separate species.

anywayz more research work needs be done.

hmmmmn, it takes a lot of faith to believe in something like evolution. My question might sound stupid but you should at least try to answer them.

My first question is

* is evolution based on fact or is it just a belief system?

PAGAN 9JA:


Oh i didnt know my theory had a name as well. I will stick to my muliple hypothesis theory. because i have some reasons . im still conducting indpendant research.

If you talk about us all coming from 1 source, then it maybe even so that even other animals, fish etc., come from the same source as us. maybe a single bacterial microrganism. so no i was talking about separate species.

anywayz more research work needs be done.

Ok, i seem to have lost it here.

Are you in any way suggesting that man had multiple sources. say africans developed from orrorin and asians from orang-utans?

All organisms share same ancestors, hence our genetic similarities. do not forget that single cells divide indefinitely till necrobiosis, now here is the logic: One progeny of this single cell might have a mutation which will make it different from others, other progeny might experience the same thing, hence, multiple species from a single sources. it is called claudistics!!

inspiredbyGOD:.:
hmmmmn, it takes a lot of faith to believe in something like evolution. My question might sound stupid but you should at least try to answer them.

My first question is

* is evolution based on fact or is it just a belief system?

You would be entitled to a reasonable reply if you could offer any single proof, just one proof of creation of man from dust.

however, i feel compelled to answer. Evolution is based on maths and observation - FACT

ooman:

Ok, i seem to have lost it here.

Are you in any way suggesting that man had multiple sources. say africans developed from orrorin and asians from orang-utans?

All organisms share same ancestors, hence our genetic similarities. do not forget that single cells divide indefinitely till necrobiosis, now here is the logic: One progeny of this single cell might have a mutation which will make it different from others, other progeny might experience the same thing, hence, multiple species from a single sources . it is called claudistics!!

not exactly. my reply is the above bolded that you have already stated. it is very likely we shared a common ancestor in one of the much earlier evolution stages, but in the later stages we formed completely new species with some different characteristics. example is the Neandethral , Homo Sapien issue.

PAGAN 9JA:


not exactly. my reply is the above bolded that you have already stated. it is very likely we shared a common ancestor in one of the much earlier evolution stages, but in the later stages we formed completely new species with some different characteristics. example is the Neandethral , Homo Sapien issue.

Yes, but the process was progressive. multiple mutations in previous ancestors led to Neanderthals, habilis, erectus then to us.

ooman:

Yes, but the process was progressive. multiple mutations in previous ancestors led to Neanderthals, habilis, erectus then to us.

i reserve my comment. it is a bit offensive to society and needs more concrete proof. i will state it some other time.

PAGAN 9JA:


i reserve my comment. it is a bit offensive to society and needs more concrete proof. i will state it some other time.

be careful, hypothesis CANNOT be offensive to the society. are you suggesting racism or tribalism?
Bioethics will cut you off from biological community!!!

ooman:

You would be entitled to a reasonable reply if you could offer any single proof, just one proof of creation of man from dust.

however, i feel compelled to answer. Evolution is based on maths and observation - FACT

Observation? Evolution is purely guess work. None of us were at the beginning to observe anything.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Observation? Evolution is purely guess work. None of us were at the beginning to observe anything.

oh pls, there are no guesses in evolution. that was why i said evolution was based on MATH AND OBSERVATION. that which we were not present to witness has been confirmed by MATHS, that which we witness is called deductive observation!!!

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Observation? Evolution is purely guess work. None of us were at the beginning to observe anything.

do you need to observe from the beginning how Garriwater was made to know that is was made by mixing Garri with Water

PAGAN 9JA:


do you need to observe from the beginning how Garriwater was made to know that is was made by mixing Garri with Water

I don't have to observe it because it is an action that I can easily re-enact. The same can't be said of evolution.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
I don't have to observe it because it is an action that I can easily re-enact. The same can't be said of evolution.

oh you are dreaming. simulations are done daily on theories. You really need to learn before saying things

ooman:

oh you are dreaming. simulations are done daily on theories. You really need to learn before saying things

Err, simulation? simulations are also based on assumptions, they are not based on fact. Basically, evolution is still a theory because it can't be backed up with evidence.

ooman: Find attached all the links from ape to man.

They are not chronological though.

Evolution is justified after-all.

Ask your questions and i will answer

If you had been a recent evidence of evolution, then that would be a prove beyond doubt.

ooman:
Evolution is justified after-all.

It always was...

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Observation? Evolution is purely guess work. None of us were at the beginning to observe anything.

OMG!
You just placed yourself in the category of "complex ignorance".

ooman:

You would be entitled to a reasonable reply if you could offer any single proof, just one proof of creation of man from dust.

This was unecessary because he never said anything about creation and it does not in anyway aid in explaining evolution. It is only an attack at something he didn't present and a poorly veiled ad hominen attack to bully him and make him appear stupid and therefore be more inclined to accept your answer.

however, i feel compelled to answer. Evolution is based on maths and observation - FACT

Please kindly expand on this mathematics and observation you are talking about.

plaetton:

OMG!
You just placed yourself in the category of "complex ignorance".

Mockery is never a good way to argue. He made a valid contention there. All you had to do was show him how it isn't guess work. Why not start doing that instead of insulting his person. There is nothing wrong with ignorance but there is everything wrong with mockery rather than education.

ooman:

You would be entitled to a reasonable reply if you could offer any single proof, just one proof of creation of man from dust.

however, i feel compelled to answer. Evolution is based on maths and observation - FACT

this is quite funny...

evolution is based on math? What happened to biological evidence? You mean evolution is really based on assumptions cloaked as "math"?

Evolution is based on observation? Observations of what? You mean evolution is based on assumptions and extrapolations based on what WE THINK might have happened based on the limited evidence we have?

ooman:

oh you are dreaming. simulations are done daily on theories. You really need to learn before saying things

you do know that simulations are mere speculation and not fact right?

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Err, simulation? simulations are also based on assumptions, they are not based on fact. Basically, evolution is still a theory because it can't be backed up with evidence.

did you read me at all, i said

ooman: oh you are dreaming. simulations are done daily on theories. You really need to learn before saying things

models suggested by evolutionists on past events. Evolution is based on MATHS AND OBSERVATION

davidylan:

you do know that simulations are mere speculation and not fact right?

models suggested by evolutionists. we are talking about past events here so it has to be on models, you do know that right?

oiseworld:

If you had been a recent evidence of evolution, then that would be a prove beyond doubt.

mitochondria

Mr_Anony2:
This was unecessary because he never said anything about creation and it does not in anyway aid in explaining evolution. It is only an attack at something he didn't present and a poorly veiled ad hominen attack to bully him and make him appear stupid and therefore be more inclined to accept your answer.


Please kindly expand on this mathematics and observation you are talking about.

secondary school maths should teach you algorithms used in studying nature. Most of you people didnt listen in secondary school down through college, this is why you remain worshipers and gullible.

Mr_Anony2:
Mockery is never a good way to argue. He made a valid contention there. All you had to do was show him how it isn't guess work. Why not start doing that instead of insulting his person. There is nothing wrong with ignorance but there is everything wrong with mockery rather than education.

no one is insulting anybody, i only made inquiries. if anybody is insulting someone, its you, derailing the thread

davidylan:

this is quite funny...

evolution is based on math? What happened to biological evidence? You mean evolution is really based on assumptions cloaked as "math"?

Evolution is based on observation? Observations of what? You mean evolution is based on assumptions and extrapolations based on what WE THINK might have happened based on the limited evidence we have?

You are really .......... no words to describe you without insulting you personally. Dunce should mildly do it.

When we talk of EVOLUTION, you do realize we are not just talking about life but about every other thing in cosmology, Astrology and other areas of science right? That is your maths right there

@bold: are you saying mathematical theories and formulas are all assumptions?

The theory of evolution was not thought out by a man in his bed room dreaming as the bible was written. It was well modernized by a man who STUDIED and OBSERVED nature for 5 years, Darwin, and another who did the same for even a greater amount of time, Wallace. Now you see that people disbelieve in creation not just because they want to, but because observation of nature speaks again any God at all, and ultimately, against intelligent design.

ooman:

secondary school maths should teach you algorithms used in studying nature. Most of you people didnt listen in secondary school down through college, this is why you remain worshipers and gullible.

You still haven't explained the nature of this maths used in studying nature. Telling us how ignorant we are still doesn't count as an explanation my friend.

Mr_Anony2: You still haven't explained the nature of this maths used in studying nature. Telling us how ignorant we are still doesn't count as an explanation my friend.

Mathematics has helped proved the nature of energy, which made up everything, i made on thread on that. You were all lacking to give replies so it is not my fault i cant do it again, i will look for the link and post it now.