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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 8:33pm On Apr 03, 2013
There is nothing mysterious about sleep paralysis, at least to me. Almost everyone goes through the experience at least once in their lifetime. I was laughing at a friend who called it 'nightmare' a couple weeks ago.

Well, for those who call 'Jesus' and they were and are able to wake up; have you tried calling your name and you didnt wake up ?

when the physical body goes out of alignment with the ethereal body. The ethereal is the conscious duality of the beingness of humans, without which we are termed 'dead'. So in sleep paralysis, the physical body is dead, but the awareness is still with the conscious ethereal body which enables us engage our senses which are actually functional in soul. Soul doesnt need dedicated organs like eyes to see, ear to hear, skin to feel. Sleep paralysis is precursor bilocation, and bilocation is precursor to astral projection. I enjoy it each time it comes.

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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by pekelepekele(m): 9:27pm On Apr 03, 2013
@op & others have you guys ever being slapped from your sleep and it was the slap that woke you up and you are still feeling the slap after waking up? Aiye dey tell the atheist beside you say Aiye dey

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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by donlyone(m): 9:30pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: Nice one. What explanation do you have for those who wake up with scars from fights in their dream.

The research is rubbish, take it from me, I have been beaten severely in my dream several times and usually woke up with bruses and one time I had a long deep scratch on my leg.
I never tell my parents for fear of being taken to church for "deliverance".

I still remeber vividly,just before dawn, how someone sat on both my legs, my arms were paralysed but my eyes were open, yes, I was looking around the room, there was a silhouette over my legs. I was praying with my mind like JESUS PLS SAVE ME.

You don't have to believe in God, but please don't say the supernatural does not exist.

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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by donlyone(m): 9:34pm On Apr 03, 2013
Also can you scientifically explain how some people dream events before they occur.

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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by doopsy(f): 9:51pm On Apr 03, 2013
Hmmmmmn,oyinbo don do there own research.my people being oppressed at night,by evil forces is real,I mean so real,I have witnessed it,so many times,it does exist .

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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Policewoman(f): 10:15pm On Apr 03, 2013
It's supernatural o! They call it somnambulism and it is caused by Demons shocked
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Policewoman(f): 10:18pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire: There is nothing mysterious about sleep paralysis, at least to me. Almost everyone goes through the experience at least once in their lifetime. I was laughing at a friend who called it 'nightmare' a couple weeks ago.

Well, for those who call 'Jesus' and they were and are able to wake up; have you tried calling your name and you didnt wake up ?

when the physical body goes out of alignment with the ethereal body. The ethereal is the conscious duality of the beingness of humans, without which we are termed 'dead'. So in sleep paralysis, the physical body is dead, but the awareness is still with the conscious ethereal body which enables us engage our senses which are actually functional in soul. Soul doesnt need dedicated organs like eyes to see, ear to hear, skin to feel. Sleep paralysis is precursor bilocation, and bilocation is precursor to astral projection. I enjoy it each time it comes.
You enjoy being pressed shocked shocked shocked IT SCARES THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF ME!!!!!!!
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:33pm On Apr 03, 2013
Policewoman: You enjoy being pressed shocked shocked shocked IT SCARES THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF ME!!!!!!!
The fact that you are now aware, that it happens to nearly everyone, should make understand it more. Personally, I have encountered things beyond the sleep paralysis, I guess seeing your physical body lying down and separated from your ethereal body will scare you more.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by fulanigirl(f): 10:40pm On Apr 03, 2013
I suffer from this so badly. I could go into 4 in one night or dream about being in sleep paralysis. It's just the most terrifying feeling ever, but there is nothing supernatural about it. Pills from a doctor could solve that problem, I just hate taking pills.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:41pm On Apr 03, 2013
Science, if one is under sleep paralysis, the pronouncement BLOOD OF JESUS frees the person instantly where as he has done everything possible in that state to regain consciousness until the proclamation.

I ask, is Jesus powerful than this anomaly?
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:43pm On Apr 03, 2013
Policewoman: It's supernatural o! They call it somnambulism and it is caused by Demons shocked
Hahahahaha Its not caused by daemons my dear. It is nature's call to make you think about the dual nature of man. Dual in the sense of the word. Let's analyze it. Your body was stiff, and you could not move. Yet you could see and hear. Then what part of you was 'aware' of the immediate and ethereal environment when your body was 'dead' ? It therefore begs for questions. There is another component of you, that is not physical, that 'controls awareness'. Religion calls it soul, science is yet to know shit about it. Mysticism understands more about it. Humans are dual in nature, the positive being the ethereal body, and the negative being the physical body. The positive carries with it the spark of consciousness and the negative is coerce matter (physical) which is lifeless but for the positive polarity which powers it to life, without which we are termed death. When the positive goes out of alignment with the negative, we experience lost of consciousness and feel death (sleep paralysis). Think about it as the charger of the negative matter which we bath and feed daily.

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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:44pm On Apr 03, 2013
claremont:
Definitely. Semi-conscious state with inability to move. It seems some people are more prone to having it for some reason.
Interesting. I don't know if you've been following. Any attempt to describe sleep paralysis as a 'semi-conscious' state deviates from what we are talking about. The first paragraph of the first post betray you already. Try again.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:49pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: Interesting. I don't know if you've been following. Any attempt to describe sleep paralysis as a 'semi-conscious' state deviates from what we are talking about. The first paragraph of the first post betray you already. Try again.
Do not attempt to chastise him, no one claims totally ownership of knowledge when it comes to science and metaphysics, everyone is welcomed to make attempts at elucidating the field. He made a point that warrants thoughtfulness. It is up to you to make your points based on what you know and not just what you read from another person on journals which are actually lacking in facts. The bank of information as far as metaphysical-paranormal events are metaphysics and mysticism - fields I am not just addicted to, but has been a participatory chela for nearly half of my current lifetime. Thanks anyway, for holding the forte.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:53pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire: It is beyond natural and supernatural, it is esoteric.
There we go again. Let me break the word down so that some of us can try placing it to perspective.
Esoteric-'only understandable by those with special knowledge'.
By the virtue of the above definition, anything, whether natural or supernatural can be esoteric. That a thing is esoteric does not in any depict that it is beyond the natural or the supernatural. Please, don't confuse us.

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Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:57pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: There we go again. Let me break the word down so that some of us can try placing it to perspective.
Esoteric-'only understandable by those with special knowledge'.
By the virtue of the above definition, anything, whether natural or supernatural can be esoteric. That a thing is esoteric does not in any depict that it is beyond the natural or the supernatural. Please, don't confuse us.


By us, you mean who ? I really do not understand your position with regards to sleep paralysis. As far as I am concerned, Logic can not help you here. Logic lacks the premise to even understand what metaphysics is, cos while Logic is elementary maths/physics, esotericism and mysticism is beyond the levels of logic, so attempting to analyze esoteric events using logic is like using bow/arrow to shoot down the sun. I ask again, whats your position on sleep paralysis.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 10:58pm On Apr 03, 2013
dorox:
You are right, na ojuju and winches dey cause am. To what end? I don't know.
There is nothing mysterious about it, muskeeto gave a very good explanation on the cause, I only made a minor addition.
Na wa o. Supernatural things are not necessarily spiritual. Where is that afirmation coming from, Mr?
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:06pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire:
The ethereal is the conscious duality of the beingness of humans, without which we are termed 'dead'. So in sleep paralysis, the physical body is dead, but the awareness is still with the conscious ethereal body which enables us engage our senses which are actually functional in soul.
hehehe. Your first sentence contradicts the second.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:08pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire: Do not attempt to chastise him, no one claims totally ownership of knowledge when it comes to science and metaphysics, everyone is welcomed to make attempts at elucidating the field. He made a point that warrants thoughtfulness. It is up to you to make your points based on what you know and not just what you read from another person on journals which are actually lacking in facts. The bank of information as far as metaphysical-paranormal events are metaphysics and mysticism - fields I am not just addicted to, but has been a participatory chela for nearly half of my current lifetime. Thanks anyway, for holding the forte.
You know this a perfect rant, don't you?
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:09pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: hehehe. Your first sentence contradicts the second.
I doubt if you could understand my writing. Read again. This is not politics, engage your analytical mind. We are not on this thread to win in argument, we are here to share knowledge, but I realized that you actually havent made any points than to counter others. Whats your position ?
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:10pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: You know this a perfect rant, don't you?
Stop being ridiculous. If you have nothing to discuss, simply sign out. You are already sounding like a broken record.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:16pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire:

By us, you mean who ? I really do not understand your position with regards to sleep paralysis. As far as I am concerned, Logic can not help you here. Logic lacks the premise to even understand what metaphysics is, cos while Logic is elementary maths/physics, esotericism and mysticism is beyond the levels of logic, so attempting to analyze esoteric events using logic is like using bow/arrow to shoot down the sun. I ask again, whats your position on sleep paralysis.
By us, would you have it to mean, me myself and I? But first, you need to open a thread where we can understand/debate/discuss what logic really is. Let's settle the matter that affects all other matters, to enable us treat the matters without confusing ourselves. What do you think?
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:20pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire: Stop being ridiculous. If you have nothing to discuss, simply sign out. You are already sounding like a broken record.
Okay. Actually, Muskeeto and jay were the rational minds I indulged.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:22pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: By us, would you have it to mean, me myself and I? But first, you need to open a thread where we can understand/debate/discuss what logic really is. Let's settle the matter that affects all other matters, to enable us treat the matters without confusing ourselves. What do you think?


Of course, we can do that my dear friend, but as far as Sleep paralysis is concerned, Logic can not explain it, thats why I keep saying, do not attempt to explain it using Logic and common sense.

Sleep Paralysis is even beyond present day medicine, thats why Nurses and doctors in the ER can not even explain out of body experiences and the place of consciousness during "brain death" sessions. I have gone through this in the past, and I am telling you as someone who experience these things 'intentionally' not as an outsider.

So, I say to you again, Do not attempt to sound conviction on a subject you know little or nothing about. Logic is child's play compared to metaphysics and mysticism. QED
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:24pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: Okay. Actually, Muskeeto and jay were the rational minds I indulged.
You lack the capacity to decide who is rational and who is not. Your brain is in your head, locate it and use it wisely.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:24pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire: I doubt if you could understand my writing. Read again. This is not politics, engage your analytical mind. We are not on this thread to win in argument, we are here to share knowledge, but I realized that you actually havent made any points than to counter others. Whats your position ?
Seriously, you don't want me to analyze it. By the way, the burden to derive a proof for a position doesn't lie on the party trying to discover the authenticity of the position, but on the party that takes that position.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:26pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire: You lack the capacity to decide who is rational and who is not. Your brain is in your head, locate it and use it wisely.
Lol. Okay.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:26pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: Seriously, you don't want me to analyze it. By the way, the burden to derive a proof for a position doesn't lie on the party trying to discover the authenticity of the position, but on the party that takes that position.
Here goes logic, reserve it for a thread about logical reasoning and empiricism. For now, Sleep Paralysis is our discourse.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:30pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire:

Of course, we can do that my dear friend, but as far as Sleep paralysis is concerned, Logic can not explain it, thats why I keep saying, do not attempt to explain it using Logic and common sense.

Sleep Paralysis is even beyond present day medicine, thats why Nurses and doctors in the ER can not even explain out of body experiences and the place of consciousness during "brain death" sessions. I have gone through this in the past, and I am telling you as someone who experience these things 'intentionally' not as an outsider.

So, I say to you again, Do not attempt to sound conviction on a subject you know little or nothing about. Logic is child's play compared to metaphysics and mysticism. QED
I know this is not the thread for the exposition on logic. But let me ask, what do you consider as logic? You know, before any further thing I will say will make sense to you, you have to understand perfectly the level I'm operating from.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:33pm On Apr 03, 2013
Billyonaire: Here goes logic, reserve it for a thread about logical reasoning and empiricism. For now, Sleep Paralysis is our discourse.
Smh
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:34pm On Apr 03, 2013
Reyginus: I know this is not the thread for the exposition on logic. But let me ask, what do you consider as logic? You know, before any further thing I will say will make sense to you, you have to understand perfectly the level I'm operating from.
My dear friend, you are derailing this thread. Can we simply stick to the thread for now ? You can actually create a new thread for us to battle on logic and how useless it is for any meaningful growth.
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by ezme(m): 11:36pm On Apr 03, 2013
An0nimus:
I've seen this happen to a very close friend. She was physically injured..like blood and torn flesh. I'll like to have an explanation on this too.

Was this happening documented? How can we know you are not lying? We cannot just take your word for it. Between, is this neighbour of yours mentally stable? Those could be self-inflicted you know
Re: Sleep Paralysis or Being 'Pressed' At Night - Natural or Supernatural? by Nobody: 11:38pm On Apr 03, 2013
ezme:

Was this happening documented? How can we know you are not lying? We cannot just take your word for it. Between, is this neighbour of yours mentally stable? Those could be self-inflicted you know
Hahahahaaha, Dang! You nearly finish the guy. He was simply searching for answers. Its possible the wounds were self-inflicted during the sessions of loss and gain of consciousness, the brain at that stage can not capture the happenings so the subject can not recall how the wound came to be.

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