xtians r fond of saying God never fails, hes faithful bla bla, was readin punch story on d 8o pple dat died on ore road, hw dey said deir prayers nd still got roasted, traveled d same day without prayin yet i no roast, bt lets be truthful god is also a failure hahaha

he
never fails, just call on him n he will answer thee. some pple called
on him witout faith n believe. God is not a man ddat he should lie. neither d son of man dat he should come to pass.

hahahahahahaha, all dose pple dat roasted none had faith abi, see ur head, god nd devil na d same haahahahah

People fail God. True or false

there is no god.

alfaman2: there is no god.

How do you explain the perfection of the world (nature), and from no life to life?

The day a scientific explanation is given, your religion will fall apart. Besides, is God life? And is non life to life impossible?

[quote
author=Kay 17]The day a scientific explanation is given, your religion
will fall apart. Besides, is God life? And is non life to life
impossible?[/quote]

God is the originator of life, and pls explain how we can go from non life to life?

Is non life to life impossble?

Is God life?

Pastor Olu T:

How do you explain the perfection of the world (nature), and from no life to life?

the world is error strewn nt perfect, how can u also proof God is responsible for life

Which of d god r u referring to.. God or god?

Ask4bigneyo: Which of d god r u referring to.. God or god?

you forgot doG

ednut1: the world is error strewn nt perfect, how can u also proof God is responsible for life

Typical Nigerian, answering question with question.

God Fails and ensures Success.. He is responsible for Death and Life. He is the Head and the Tail
If you understand his dual nature, you will not be confused ever.. you are damned if you do, damned if you don't

lagerwhenindoubt: God Fails and ensures Success.. He is responsible for Death and Life. He is the Head and the Tail
If you understand his dual nature, you will not be confused ever.. you are damned if you do, damned if you don't

catch-22 doesnt get anymore personified than that

ednut1: the world is error strewn nt perfect, how can u also proof God is responsible for life

You obviously are not conversant with science

Do you know that it is the perfection of the world that kept life, though this is disintegrating because of the abuse of man and all will come to end soon?

Kay 17: The day a scientific explanation is given, your religion will fall apart. Besides, is God life? And is non life to life impossible?

God is life, and tell me please how we can come from non life to life, i am ready to learn

Pastor Olu T:

You obviously are not conversant with science

Do you know that it is the perfection of the world that kept life, though this is disintegrating because of the abuse of man and all will come to end soon?

mumu i no gt ur time

ednut1: mumu i no gt ur time

Typical, instead of answering the question you resulted to insult, how dignified?

Pastor Olu T:

You obviously are not conversant with science

Do you know that it is the perfection of the world that kept life, though this is disintegrating because of the abuse of man and all will come to end soon?

d world was neva perfect, disasters hv been occurin even b4 humans starts burnin fuel nd co, ur God made something he later abandoned it for nature, coward god

alfaman2: there is no god.

Certainly no God. Christians are only being lazy,not wanting to be take responsibilies for their lives. They blame everything on a non existing devil and cry out to a fake sky sugar daddy.

ifeness:


Certainly no God. Christians are only being lazy,not wanting to be take responsibilies for their lives. They blame everything on a non existing devil and cry out to a fake sky sugar daddy.

How does this answer the question i asked you?

Pastor Olu T:

Typical, instead of answering the question you resulted to insult, how dignified?

well, I can see where he is coming from. There are tonnes of threads on this forum dealing with that same complaint. so maybe take some time and research a few so you'll see how imperfect your perfect world is

ednut1: xtians r fond of saying God never fails, hes faithful bla bla, was readin punch story on d 8o pple dat died on ore road, hw dey said deir prayers nd still got roasted, traveled d same day without prayin yet i no roast, bt lets be truthful god is also a failure hahaha

if i make a city out of legos toys designing it to perfection with lots of time and care...so much so that spectators are in awe..and then all of a sudden i decide to crush one building and leave the other..

or decide to build on one building and completely destroy the rest...there would be a reason for my doing so. It may not make sense but regardless if people do not understand why, who would they be to question what I do with my creation?

they can wonder.
they can ask.
they can laugh.
they can be amused and/or confused...

but at the end of the day..i would still be in control.

right or wrong? it wouldn't make me a failure..it would mean ultimately I am in control.
I may have my own rules again which may puzzle people but if it's MINE, then nobody else has to understand it unless I give direct hints or decide secrets are to be revealed.

That's the problem with people...we don't believe in staying in our place and realizing we are living in a being's creation..we are part of the creation and our wants do not outweigh his/her plan. We don't understand a lot of things...massacres, natural disasters, anger; etc...hell, we don't even understand our own existence. There are a lot of things we can say or assume but regardless of what we think or how we feel...we don't give the orders.

It's time to understand and accept that.

^^^

Terrible analogy. I'm even sick reading it!!

Now change that city of lego and say "If i had 10 beautiful children and I decide to kill one......"


see your problem now?

ednut1: hahahahahahaha, all dose pple dat roasted none had faith abi, see ur head, god nd devil na d same haahahahah

there is some truth to that....however the "devil" is non existent.

the "devil" is what we use to convince ourselves that we are not responsible for the evil we do. since God created us and we can commit evil acts, he too created evil.

but the concept of the devil as in "horned beast with a tail and pitch fork" (as i have said many times) is poppycock.

*Kails*:


there is some truth to that....however the "devil" is non existent.

the "devil" is what we use to convince ourselves that we are not responsible for the evil we do. since God created us and we can commit evil acts, he too created evil.

but the concept of the devil as in "horned beast with a tail and pitch fork" (as i have said many times) is poppycock.

What if you realize at the end of the day that you were wrong all along?

@areaboy..it's a "horrible analogy" because you don't want to read into what i am saying.

the result is still the same sir, REGARDLESS!

if i am the creator of all things and decide to destroy some of my creations,
it's still ultimately up to me how things go.

We mortals are emotional beings which is a beautiful thing but as history has shown, our emotions have gotten the best of us and when emotional we don't always think with logic. We tend to be less accepting of what we do not understand. To us: There "always has to be an answer" for everything..and we want it and we want it NOW!

no no....let's leave the toddler tantrums..to the toddlers!!

SOME OF US fail to realize that what or whoever it was that created us is far greater than and owes us NO explanations. The idea that someone can be angry about something or sad about an event/their life and think that their declaring themselves an atheist is enough to "intimidate and shame God out of the heavens to prove he exists" is comical!

To think forming an alliance of nonbelievers and arguing online will make him submit is just absolutely HILARIOUS. I have no desire to argue with such folks (including you)...I am just saying we did not make ourselves and we are not here by accident..the world is what it is and sh-t happens - most importantly we are not in control.

Lego or human being...the moral of the story is the same.

Area_boy: Now change that city of lego and say "If i had 10 beautiful children and I decide to kill one......"


see your problem now?

[size=28pt]PATHOS ARGUMENT:[/size] trying to appeal to what?

EMOTIONS!!

Pastor Olu T:

What if you realize at the end of the day that you were wrong all along?

yes...ask yourself that.

see if i am wrong i would just be dead.
my soul would go nowhere and i'd have nada to lose...i'd be nothing but a memory to the living and perhaps a stiff corpse

but what if YOU were wrong? what would you say? what would you do?

exactly.

*Kails*:


yes...ask yourself that.

see if i am wrong i would just be dead.
my soul would go nowhere and i'd have nada to lose...i'd be nothing but a memory to the living and perhaps a stiff corpse

but what if YOU were wrong? what would you say? what would you do?

exactly.

Good that you asked, now if at the end of the day you found out that you were wrong this is what would happen, you will find yourself in Hell where you will be tormented day and night for all eternity. You will forever regret.

Now on the other hand, if i was wrong i will have nothing to loose because i actually lived a good life and enjoyed getting there.

Did you get the picture?

starting your post by interchanging my clear words with yours of choice already tells me alot about how you think.

I cant be bothered getting into an argument at this time. its almost 11 and my insomnia is acting up, so completely in no mood.

I will leave you with one thing however, the problem with religion is you are either here or there. if you define your god as something we do not know then you're just an agnostic and pretty much same as most of "us" no believers. The point i'm making here is you either ascribe to a god or you don't. I'm guessing you're with a certain Yaweh.. Problem with your stance is he gave you a book and clearly states in that book how he thinks and what he wants. you cannot make up silly analogies to help explain his position or "lack" of. I thought he made you in his image and likeness? hmmm

lol. great, you know a little bit about types of arguments so you bold it to assure yourself that you've puzzled out what my intentions are with my earlier statement. I wonder who's having the toddler tantrums now.. ok lets change that with 10 ugly children.. lol.. make any fcking difference?


Your analogy is a bad one, absolutely disgraceful that you think like that. take it or leave it.. take your time and come up with a better one.. Sounds like a tyrant you worship that owes you no fcking explanation what he does. I guess that explains why you worship him . If I have a "loving, caring god", he must fcking explain to me if he "cares"!!