black male:
WHATTTT!!!!!! Thank you nwando....God bless u real good....

Mintayo:

yes,God will bless you indeed...those threads are EYE-OPENeR...lols.

saintvc: Thats catholic for you,no discrimination

Area_boy:

lol.. received at Dyce

Tonight, Paramount/ tonik

ayenny02: The christian will quote Mark 16:19 as a proof that jesus was raised up to heaven and sat on d right hand of God.

Mark 16:9-20 has bn expunged in many bibles. MARK 16 RELEGATED http://niv.scripturetext.com/mark/16.htm.


Christian believes in d cruxification necessary for their redemption of sin and consequently have to aaccept ths accursedness of jesus, too. This Christianity belief opposes d bibles teaching in Hosea
Hosea 6:6

6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

And in Mathew
Matthew 9:13
13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Also in matt again
Matthew 12:7
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.


IT WAS PAUL WHO TAUGHT THE RESURRECTION

Acts 17:18
18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

PAUL WHO NEVER SAW JESUS also admitted that resurrectn was his Gospel. 2 Timothy 2:8

8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

So christianity is not a teaching of jesus but of paul.

If you still believe that jesus is divine becos he was raised up to heaven, Why don't yuo accept other prophet as divine. Who was also raised;



2 Kings 2:11-12
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

Also see; Genesis 5:24
24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

And see Hebrews 11:5
5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

dejgan:


@ayenny02...you have refused to answer me....guess my last post silenced you a bit.....I dont have time for rhetorics of Arabic and hebrew since you dont even understand any...but I see you lift quotes from the Bible and twist the meaning to suit your fallacies....So it was Paul who came a few years after the ascension that imported the doctrine of resurrection...since you dont know...ask and you will be taught....I need not study the Quran to know my left from the right....you are totally misguided and your citations taken out of context.....

above all, its extremely the nature of an extremist (like your boko brethren) to thump up falsehoods like these in order to discredit another man's beliefs and when you dont succeed, you resort to violence. I told you, if you are this intelligent, pls harness this intelligence to better use in combatting poverty, health and social issues especially among your Muslim brothers in the North. Sa'lam!

black male:
WHATTTT!!!!!! Thank you nwando....God bless u real good....

ayenny02: The christian will quote Mark 16:19 as a proof that jesus was raised up to heaven and sat on d right hand of God.

Mark 16:9-20 has bn expunged in many bibles. MARK 16 RELEGATED http://niv.scripturetext.com/mark/16.htm.


Christian believes in d cruxification necessary for their redemption of sin and consequently have to aaccept ths accursedness of jesus, too. This Christianity belief opposes d bibles teaching in Hosea
Hosea 6:6

6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

ayenny02: The christian will quote Mark 16:19 as a proof that jesus was raised up to heaven and sat on d right hand of God.

Mark 16:9-20 has bn expunged in many bibles. MARK 16 RELEGATED http://niv.scripturetext.com/mark/16.htm.

Where did you get that from? It is people who bare false witnesses that says their witnesses are in heaven. Argue your points based on available facts and stop using words like "something was removed" "the arabic cant be interpreted"...etc. in a court of law, that will not be admissible evidence...


And in Mathew
Matthew 9:13
13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Also in matt again
Matthew 12:7
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.


These are scriptures that negates the hypocrisy of the religious bigots of the days of Jesus. The same phenomenon which is common practise today both in the Islamic and Christian faith. People who offer animal sacrifices and got to mecca yet can arrange the death of innocent souls in the name of sacrifice to allah...christians who will pay tithes, do night vigils yet divert funds meant for national development and infrastructure. It does not refer to the ultimate sacrifice of the Messiah. I dont know what you and some people read from holy books.....outside of moral living, human development, love for one's neighbor and fellow humans, the rest is fanaticm

IT WAS PAUL WHO TAUGHT THE RESURRECTION
Very laughable......Acts of the apostles was not written by Paul. The Resurrection was the main theme of the gospel of the disciples after the baptism of the Holy Ghost in Acts chapter 2. Paul was not even near it. You are so full of error cause that is only what you wish to see.

nwando:


I wish I could dig them all out
We showed them pepper prior to them getting the Islamic section
Seun banned davidylan and i so many times because they cried out
The highlight was a testimony of a former Muslim that led to conversions of a few Muslims here from the emails she got
This place was a lot more fun

nwando: This is a nice thread back in the day when a former Muslim and great sister pilgrim1 who caused many a heart attacks for Muslims gave her testimony on nairaland.
This thread caused so many death threats for some us and a few Muslims also gave their lives to Christ glory to God
The Muslims were so angry and even threatened Seun,he had to lock the thread
Many of the Christians there including myself got banned
After this thread,the words Allah and Mohammed could not be used on nairaland for a while
That is how peaceful they are
The auto correct changed Allah to the great one and Mohammed to the great prophet rofl


https://www.nairaland.com/175953/ex-muslim-nairalander-talks-why

dejgan:

The scripture you quoted was totally out of context...if you dont know, come for bible study. I wont lift portions of the Quaran to fight you but argue based on principle of interpretation. Hosea was a prophet addressing the ills of a society of people who were serving God hypocritically and religiously like you muslims still sacrifice every year and some silly christians still pay tithes without loving their neighbours. that is the meaning of that scripture. it has nothing to do with the death of Jesus.

People like me went to sunday school for 18 years. I am not of the stock of Christians that just quote their pastor's messages.

Have you heard of the Messianic Psalms.....the book of psalms was not entirely written by David....its a compilation of inspired writings by several authors who mainly were temple priests and Levites. If you have not, welcome to a life changing discussion......be ready to quit hitting your head on the ground and I can promise you, your life will change. AMIN!

Mintayo:

wow,nice thread,God bless you, and i was really blessed...i wish such thread can open again esp now...Pls where is the lady now, i mean pilgrim1? You hearing from her?
More of such threads pls...Jesus is Lord.

Mintayo:

wow,nice thread,God bless you, and i was really blessed...i wish such thread can open again esp now...Pls where is the lady now, i mean pilgrim1? You hearing from her?
More of such threads pls...Jesus is Lord.

nwando:

No I lost touch after I left nairaland for a while.
There was someone recently who wrote on a thread that they were formerly Muslim,I wish I can find It,I would want them to share a testimony too
Pilgrim got a few converts after that testimony and she was following them up and telling them the proper way to tell their family etc.
That thread was a real blessing

ayenny02:
You said what I qouted was out of context, why not use ur own point to buttress my proof.
So u went to bible school for good solid 18yrs and u don't see all what I proof for u abi?. If u don't see it, I will proof another one for u maybe ur eyes will open, I don't know maybe u people don't read ur book constantly. HERE BELOW ARE MY PROOF TO CALL UR BIBLE UNHOLY:

1.If you can twist what I posted here on Nairaland, it shows how deeply rooted you are in falsehood. I went to SUNDAY SCHOOL not bible school....the spirit of lies dwells inside of you.
2.Is the holiness of the Bible your next question for our bible study class? if it is, I will be ready to teach you.

ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO) Beyond the extent of the holiness of the quaran. A reason you and religious fanatic has declared a fatwa on the man who wrote the satanic verses. The fact that we will not go violent to fight for a GOD who can fight for Himself shows the sanctity of our belief in him. But your Allah and his holy book requires you to fight for him.

3. That said, you have quoted two accounts of the same story from the Old testament of the Bible that differs in respect to figures. Accepted there are errors of reconciliation which is due largely to the persecution faced by those translating the Bible in those times.

4. And what has that disparity gotten to do with the Holiness of the Bible? God spoke to men like you claim he spoke to your prophet mohammed and he wrote whatever he heard. Everyman is subject to his own interpretation.

5. I have told you and will keep telling you to put your "intelligence" to better use by solving economic and social problems affecting your muslim brothers in the north of nigeria.

6. Your understanding can never be deeper than your interpretation. since you have chosen to interpret the Bible from a bias perspective, you will only see errors in it.

7. If the quaran is half as holy as the Bible, the boko haram sect will not be killing people like they are doing.

Akpa ife: Is it a Bad tin 4 a Muslim 2 pray in d church we all serve d same God u guys wat 2 start a religious crisis

Sure sir: is a very bad tin 4 a muslim to touch d church building talk mor of 2 pray. Correction, we dnt serve d same GOD. .remember christianity is not a religion bt in christianity is God at work in humanity.

dejgan: @ayenny02...keep posting your questions to me pls.......you are not a bad student afterall, you only possess a WILD sense and I will refrain as much as possible from answering you from either the Bible or the Quaran for now. I will answer you based on common sense and spiritual understanding.....

ayenny02:
You said what I qouted was out of context, why not use ur own point to buttress my proof.
So u went to bible school for good solid 18yrs and u don't see all what I proof for u abi?. If u don't see it, I will proof another one for u maybe ur eyes will open, I don't know maybe u people don't read ur book constantly. HERE BELOW ARE MY PROOF TO CALL UR BIBLE UNHOLY:

ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO)

1a). 2 Samuel 24:1
24 And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1b). 1 Chronicles 21:1
21 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

QUESTION------( is lord of david then satan)


2a). 2 Samuel 8:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them for an hundred chariots.

2b). 1 Chronicles 18:4
4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: David also houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them an hundred chariots.

QUESTION--(seven hundred OR seven thousand)


3a). 2 Samuel 10:18
18 And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there.

3b). 1 Chronicles 19:18
18 But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host.

QUESTION--(seven hundred chariots OR seven thousand men? Forty thousand horsemen OR footmen? Shobach OR shophach)


4a). 2 Kings 8:26
26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel

4b). 2 Chronicles 22:2
2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

QUESTION---( twenty two OR forty two years)


5a). 2 Kings 24:8
8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

5b). 2 Chronicles 36:9
9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the Lord.

QUESTION---(eighteen yrs OR eight yrs? Three mths OR three mths and ten days)


FROM NEW TESTAMENT

1a). John 5:37
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

1b). John 14:9
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?


2a). John 5:31
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.

2b). John 8:14
14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.


ARE U SURE THAT THE BIBLE IS HOLY (YES or NO)

saintvc: Thats catholic for you,no discrimination

farem: HOW DO WE HANDLE A 'PROPHET' WHO REPEATEDLY AND UNCONTROLLABLY FELL INTO THE HAND OF SATAN?
CAN WE CONSIDER THE SCENARIO BELOW; SOMEONE WHO WILL PRONOUNCE A DOCTRINE AND IN NEXT MOMENT BLAMED IT ON THE DEVIL. QURAN IS INDEED A "MIRACLE!"
Allah's Daughters: el-Lat, el-Uzza, and Manat
Muslims today do not worship Allah's daughters and view them as pagan deities. Having said that, it is important to note that Muhammad himself commanded his followers offer prayers to these "Allah's daughters". He later retracted it and blamed it on the Devil.
Does the Muslim God Allah have three daughters?

I quote from the Qu'ran:

53:19 Have ye seen Al-Lat. and Al-Uzza,
53:20 And another, the third goddess, Manat?
53:21 What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?
53:22 Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!
53:23 These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority. They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!