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Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by ghostofsparta(m): 7:09am On Apr 28, 2013
Dear Nairalanders,

This is a spill-over of an intense debate here

I hereby challenge a prominent disbeliever of African/Yoruba supernatural magic, on Nairaland by the username: Billyonaire, to bet an agreed amount as a leverage for the demonstrative proof of supernatural magic/juju where an agreed upon observation and video coverage would be provided to monitor the following claim:

A motor vehicle will be tested to be working by a driver he himself will provide, and after which interior will be placed with a particular juju wherein the provided driver will be asked a again to drive the same motor vehicle. Efficacy of the juju is confirmed if the driver is unable to start the car, wherein the amount bet is mine. If the driver is able to start the vehicle with the juju inside, then he wins the argument that the believe in Juju or supernatural magic is delibertately deceptive.

This challenge is open to anyone, skeptics, scientists, rationalists, atheists and religionists here on Nairaland.

This Juju test will be videoed and uploaded on YouTube for all to watch.

Happy Sunday folks!
GhostOfSparta
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 7:25am On Apr 28, 2013
ghostofsparta: Dear Nairalanders,

I hereby challenge a prominent disbeliever of African/Yoruba supernatural magic, on Nairaland by the username: Billyonaire, to bet an agreed amount as a leverage for the demonstrative proof of supernatural magic/juju where an agreed upon observation and video coverage would be provided to monitor the following claim:

A motor vehicle will be tested to be working by a driver he himself will provide, and after which interior will be placed with a particular juju wherein the provided driver will be asked a again to drive the same motor vehicle. Efficacy of the juju is confirmed if the driver is unable to start the car, wherein the amount bet is mine. If the driver is able to start the vehicle with the juju inside, then he wins the argument that the believe in Juju or supernatural magic is delibertately deceptive.

This challenge is open to anyone, skeptics, scientists, rationalists, atheists and religionists here on Nairaland.

Happy Sunday folks!
GhostOfSparta


What is this supposed to accomplish? So you have now moved from turning human heads into ATM to making a car not to start with your Yoruba Juju? It is not very difficult to make even a brand new car not to start. You do not need juju to do this you can fiddle with the car and then claim it is juju that is preventing it from starting. If the genius Yoruba juju men could not conceive the manufacture of a car, how can they through mysticism make it not to start? give a break dude! Billionaire does not need to take the challenge, just do it and post the video here online lets see.

It is sad that while creative minds all over the world are thinking of how to turn simple ideas into money spinner, Nigerians are busy with their incongruent " jujujized" nonsense. These Yoruba Juju men could not make Abacha's goons stop the hounding of Yoruba men and they did not make him hand over power to Abiola.

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:35am On Apr 28, 2013
hmm...................go ahead Ghostofsparta. .
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Slankey: 7:45am On Apr 28, 2013
I think I understand GhostofSparta's position. He's been trying to enlighten people about what's achievable in the Yoruba tradition and some ignorant fellows here really turned it into arguments/rancour. I really don't blame the guy for this new thread, it might not necessarily aimed at proving any silly point but to correct people's notion. Let the respondent come out and let the air be cleared.

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 7:51am On Apr 28, 2013
shocked shocked shocked


I be atheist but I don dey fear ooooo! grin grin grin grin


abeg, let me carefully leave this thread before them jazz my garri

*sneaks out wiith bowl of garri*

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 7:52am On Apr 28, 2013
Slankey: I think I understand GhostofSparta's position. He's been trying to enlighten people about what's achievable in the Yoruba tradition and some ignorant fellows here really turned it into arguments/rancour. I really don't blame the guy for this new thread, it might not necessarily aimed at proving any silly point but to correct people's notion. Let the respondent come out and let the air be cleared.

Hey dude ignorance should not be contagious.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by DCoker: 8:14am On Apr 28, 2013
make billionaire do quick now....am waiting for the result smiley
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by PalmTree(m): 8:29am On Apr 28, 2013
omonuan:


What is this supposed to accomplish? So you have now moved from turning human heads into ATM to making a car not to start with your Yoruba Juju? It is not very difficult to make even a brand new car not to start. You do not need juju to do this you can fiddle with the car and then claim it is juju that is preventing it from starting. If the genius Yoruba juju men could not conceive the manufacture of a car, how can they through mysticism make it not to start? give a break dude! Billionaire does not need to take the challenge, just do it and post the video here online lets see.

It is sad that while creative minds all over the world are thinking of how to turn simple ideas into money spinner, Nigerians are busy with their incongruent " jujujized" nonsense. These Yoruba Juju men could not make Abacha's goons stop the hounding of Yoruba men and they did not make him hand over power to Abiola.

Your post is quite admirable, yet I believe that you, billiyonaire and a host of other people who have contested the OP's claims and have aimed to debunk the yoruba advanced sciences should not be "scared" of taking up this challenge. Forget about what the Yoruba juju men cannot do! However if you decide not to take up the challenge, let's all wait for he in whose name this thread was opened.

Secondly, whatever stops a brand new car from starting is obviously a factory fault. You should probably read the OP again, he will only "jujulize" the car after billiyonaire or his mech has certified the car OK. That to me should proof something... Don't try to rubbish this, take up the challenge or look on.

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by ecolime(m): 8:39am On Apr 28, 2013
Jazz VS Logic shocked

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by otipoju(m): 8:46am On Apr 28, 2013
[b][/b]When someone is saying there is no this there is no that, I don't bother to waste words trying to prove empirically what I cannot. All I say in the silence of my mind is" I pray that you will not see the one that will pass you"... I am a Celestian..on Tuesdays when I am off from work, I take time to go to church and write down spiritual messages delivered by prophets for non Celestials who have come to seek divine guidance. Male,female,old,young,famous,anonymous,wealthy,impoverished,foreign based,localbased,educated,illiterate,rieghtous,sinners and all sorts... No one is immune to problems. The inspired prophet or prophetess will reveal the hidden past, the current situitaion and knowledge of the future and practical solutions to attain the desired objective.I can't but watch in admiration when the person nods his head in confirmation of the hitherto revelations. One thing I have observed however from all these is irrespective of what your Creator has designed for you,or what evil people have done to you,you are the architect of your own fortune!!! The decisions you made and actions you took has brought you here,the ones you take now will take you to another level.God gives us free will to choose but and act. Yoruba people will say " Ibi ori danisi, ki ese ma shini lona " roughly translated- may our legs not take a different path from where our heads are headed for. From my experiences, I beleive life is an struggle between benevolent and malevolent forces and thier human agents.But as a Son of the light I am not afraid of evil forces or their human agents cause light will always dispel darkness. At the same time I don't look for trouble and will run from you if you are bringing it, but if pushed to the wall I will call upon the Jehovah- invincible creator of the invisible and visible dimensions to fight on my behalf ... And he has never failed me!!!

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by ghostofsparta(m): 8:52am On Apr 28, 2013
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Dear Nairalanders,

I hereby challenge a prominent disbeliever of African/Yoruba supernatural magic, on Nairaland by the username: Billyonaire, to bet an agreed amount as a leverage for the demonstrative proof of supernatural magic/juju where an agreed upon observation and video coverage would be provided to monitor the following claim:

A motor vehicle will be shown to be working and moving by being tested by by a driver he himself will provide and after, which interior will be placed with a particular juju wherein the provided driver will be asked again to drive the same motor vehicle. Efficacy of the juju is confirmed if the driver is unable to start the car, wherein the amount bet is mine. If the driver is able to start the vehicle with the juju inside, then he wins the argument that the believe in Juju or supernatural magic is deliberately deceptive.

This Juju test will be videoed and uploaded on YouTube for all to watch.

I don't need to be there but the JUJU which I will put inside an empty Ribena container will be tagged with an identity number whose image will be posted here for all to see before sending to the location given by Billyonaire or any who will accept my challenge for the verification of this JUJU test. The purpose of this is to measure is for both party to maintain anonymity yet making sure no one can argue that I somehow managed to manipulate the outcome to my advantage as Omonuan presumes below

omonuan:
It is not very difficult to make even a brand new car not to start. You do not need juju to do this you can fiddle with the car and then claim it is juju that is preventing it from starting.
.

This challenge is open to anyone, skeptics, scientists, rationalists, atheists and religionists here on Nairaland.

I will come back to address the rest of Omonuan's questions, I like him.

Happy Sunday folks!
GhostOfSparta

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by otipoju(m): 9:11am On Apr 28, 2013
The experiment that I would like you to perform on Billyonaire is that one that you will punch him lightly and he will fall to the ground and stand up seven times...it will be so hilarious and fun to watch and no one will say that you fiddled with one wire in the car that made it not to start. I studied African Traditional Religion in 300 level and I came across the works of the religious scholar J. Olupona on the various beleifs system in Africa. I know that there is a malleable force that traverses the universe. Some have learnt how to manipulate it. Christians invoke it orally by praying in Jesus name, commanding blessings on their efforts and rebuking failure and disease. Some prefer more practical methods with objects which the french refer to as "Jou-Jou" . Generally people use it for good effects and some for bad effects to harm others.Also some prefer to pretend that it does not exist.. Every man with his beliefs ooo. So far sey you no comot for my salary, It shall be well with you!

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 9:13am On Apr 28, 2013
Let me state categorically clear, That I am a NOT an atheist, and I am NOT theist. I am a Pantheist. I do NOT ONLY believe that MONEY RITUAL does not exist, I KNOW it DOES NOT exist. Many persons here misunderstood that to mean that there is no esoteric powers, far from it, Negative/Positive Energy vibrations EXIST and I can attest to that, not just as a reader, but as a practical chela in Mystical Science, a faculty of Knowledge that I am passionate about. Let's get that very clear before I get misunderstood.

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by ecolime(m): 9:19am On Apr 28, 2013
Billyonaire: I accept to bet! How do we begin ?
Woww... Nice one. grin
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by otipoju(m): 9:21am On Apr 28, 2013
If you are waiting for my friend Billyoinare, he will not come...Not until he has fortified the car with his Humanoid, multi- dimensional something... The guy too na esoteric person.(Olumba Olumba) I still don't understand why he likes to attack other peoples belief system that works for them when his own too is also a belief system that is working for him.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Slankey: 9:21am On Apr 28, 2013
PalmTree:

Your post is quite admirable, yet I believe that you, billiyonaire and a host of other people who have contested the OP's claims and have aimed to debunk the yoruba advanced sciences should not be "scared" of taking up this challenge. Forget about the what the Yoruba juju men cannot do! However if you decide not to take up the challenge, let's all wait for he in who name this thread was opened. Secondly, whatever stops a brand new car from starting is obviously a factory fault. You should probably read the OP again, he will only "jujulize" the car after billiyonaire or his mech has certified the car OK. That to me should proof something... Don't try to rubbish this, take up the challenge or look on.

Palmtree, you just interpreted my standpoint succinctly. Thank you.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 9:26am On Apr 28, 2013
otipoju: If you are waiting for my friend Billyoinare, he will not come...Not until he has fortified the car with his Humanoid, multi- dimensional something... The guy too na esoteric person.(Olumba Olumba) I still don't understand why he likes to attack other peoples belief system that works for them when his own too is also a belief system that is working for him.
You lie when you mention Olumba Olumba, I am not a member of the BrotherHood of the Cross & Star. Desist from assumptions of all ramifications, Assumption is the mother of all f/uck-ups.

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by PAGAN9JA(m): 9:29am On Apr 28, 2013
otipoju: Christians invoke it orally by praying in Jesus name, commanding blessings on their efforts and rebuking failure and disease.

you just CANNOT inoke the Gods in jesus name! DONT LIE! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!

You need a set ritual, mode and context! angry angry angry angry
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Slankey: 9:31am On Apr 28, 2013
omonuan:

Hey dude ignorance should not be contagious.

People like you are just so prominent on the social network with your cacophony, but otherwise, you are hardly noticed. Suck it up lad, and take your position.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 9:35am On Apr 28, 2013
Omo'de oomò o'gun ounpe léfô
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 9:38am On Apr 28, 2013
otipoju: [b][/b]When someone is saying there is no this there is no that, I don't bother to waste words trying to prove empirically what I cannot. All I say in the silence of my mind is" I pray that you will not see the one that will pass you"... I am a Celestian..on Tuesdays when I am off from work, I take time to go to church and write down spiritual messages delivered by prophets for non Celestials who have come to seek divine guidance. Male,female,old,young,famous,anonymous,wealthy,impoverished,foreign based,localbased,educated,illiterate,rieghtous,sinners and all sorts... No one is immune to problems. The inspired prophet or prophetess will reveal the hidden past, the current situitaion and knowledge of the future and practical solutions to attain the desired objective.I can't but watch in admiration when the person nods his head in confirmation of the hitherto revelations. One thing I have observed however from all these is irrespective of what your Creator has designed for you,or what evil people have done to you,you are the architect of your own fortune!!! The decisions you made and actions you took has brought you here,the ones you take now will take you to another level.God gives us free will to choose but and act. Yoruba people will say " Ibi ori danisi, ki ese ma shini lona " roughly translated- may our legs not take a different path from where our heads are headed for. From my experiences, I beleive life is an struggle between benevolent and malevolent forces and thier human agents.But as a Son of the light I am not afraid of evil forces or their human agents cause light will always dispel darkness. At the same time I don't look for trouble and will run from you if you are bringing it, but if pushed to the wall I will call upon the Jehovah- invincible creator of the invisible and visible dimensions to fight on my behalf ... And he has never failed me!!!

otipoju i'll like to have a private chat with you, maybe when i'm home , hope u don't mind?
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by otipoju(m): 9:40am On Apr 28, 2013
Billyonaire: You lie when you mention Olumba Olumba, I am not a member of the BrotherHood of the Cross & Star. Desist from assumptions of all ramifications, Assumption is the mother of all f/uck-ups.
Noted! Baba Billy.abeg no vex. I will not assume again. I will simply ask directly. But you're a strong man sha!!! Or am I assuming again? I would still prefer the light punch experiment to the car one ooooo. No room for Ojorooo.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 9:42am On Apr 28, 2013
otipoju: Noted! Baba Billy.abeg no vex. I will not assume again. I will simply ask directly. But you're a strong man sha!!! Or am I assuming again? I would still prefer the light punch experiment to the car one ooooo. No room for Ojorooo.

Bros talk nah...
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 9:47am On Apr 28, 2013
otipoju: Noted! Baba Billy.abeg no vex. I will not assume again. I will simply ask directly. But you're a strong man sha!!! Or am I assuming again? I would still prefer the light punch experiment to the car one ooooo. No room for Ojorooo.
You do not even have to punch for me to roll on the floor. There are esoteric items like ring that I understand when worn in the finger, one can slap an opponent and he/she will fall on the floor and faints. I do not doubt that. But I do not even need to get a ring to get you on the floor, I will simply use a secret word and you will be totally disarmed. I want to reiterate that I believe totally in Supra-natural Powers BUT Money Ritual is a SCAM and a MYTH from the PIT of LIES.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by GoldCircle: 9:51am On Apr 28, 2013
Na wa o! E don reach the one wey una go begin use juju dey fight each other for Nairaland abi? Nairaland is truly a reflection of Nigeria? Nothing we no go see here.
Elephants fly in Nigeria you know! wink

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by otipoju(m): 10:05am On Apr 28, 2013
No problem. But that will be after chelsea match.
shol:

otipoju i'll like to have a private chat with you, maybe when i'm home , hope u don't mind?
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by ghostofsparta(m): 10:25am On Apr 28, 2013
otipoju: When someone is saying there is no this there is no that, I don't bother to waste words trying to prove empirically what I cannot. All I say in the silence of my mind is" I pray that you will not see the one that will pass you"... I am a Celestian..on Tuesdays when I am off from work, I take time to go to church and write down spiritual messages delivered by prophets for non Celestials who have come to seek divine guidance. Male,female,old,young,famous,anonymous,wealthy,impoverished,foreign based,localbased,educated,illiterate,rieghtous,sinners and all sorts... No one is immune to problems. The inspired prophet or prophetess will reveal the hidden past, the current situitaion and knowledge of the future and practical solutions to attain the desired objective.I can't but watch in admiration when the person nods his head in confirmation of the hitherto revelations. One thing I have observed however from all these is irrespective of what your Creator has designed for you,or what evil people have done to you,you are the architect of your own fortune!!! The decisions you made and actions you took has brought you here,the ones you take now will take you to another level.God gives us free will to choose but and act. Yoruba people will say " Ibi ori danisi, ki ese ma shini lona " roughly translated- may our legs not take a different path from where our heads are headed for. From my experiences, I beleive life is an struggle between benevolent and malevolent forces and thier human agents.But as a Son of the light I am not afraid of evil forces or their human agents cause light will always dispel darkness. At the same time I don't look for trouble and will run from you if you are bringing it, but if pushed to the wall I will call upon the Jehovah- invincible creator of the invisible and visible dimensions to fight on my behalf ... And he has never failed me!!!
CRAP^^^

otipoju:
The experiment that I would like you to perform on Billyonaire is that one that you will punch him lightly and he will fall to the ground and stand up seven times...it will be so hilarious and fun to watch and no one will say that you fiddled with one wire in the car that made it not to start. I studied African Traditional Religion in 300 level and I came across the works of the religious scholar J. Olupona on the various beleifs system in Africa. I know that there is a malleable force that traverses the universe. Some have learnt how to manipulate it. Christians invoke it orally by praying in Jesus name, commanding blessings on their efforts and rebuking failure and disease. Some prefer more practical methods with objects which the french refer to as "Jou-Jou" . Generally people use it for good effects and some for bad effects to harm others.Also some prefer to pretend that it does not exist.. Every man with his beliefs ooo. So far sey you no comot for my salary, It shall be well with you!

@bolded:
It is not an experiment, it is a tried and tested Juju called aluwo belonging to the 'attack/combat' class. I will give details on how I think it works in the scientific sense but not on this thread.

otipoju:
Let me state categorically clear, That I am a NOT an atheist, and I am NOT theist. I am a Pantheist. I do NOT ONLY believe that MONEY RITUAL does not exist, I KNOW it DOES NOT exist. Many persons here misunderstood that to mean that there is no esoteric powers, far from it, Negative/Positive Energy vibrations EXIST and I can attest to that, not just as a reader, but as a practical chela in Mystical Science, a faculty of Knowledge that I am passionate about. Let's get that very clear before I get misunderstood.
Either you are a pantheist or not, just accept the challenge and let's move on. I am not asking you to do money ritual as I don't even advised it, PLEASE drop all your fancy use of contradictory concepts and just accept the challenge.

ecolime:
Woww... Nice one. grin
Either you are lying or Billyonaire has modified his previous post.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by PAGAN9JA(m): 10:28am On Apr 28, 2013
ghostofsparta:

Either you are lying or Billyonaire has modified his previous post.

he modified his post. I bear witness to the original.
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by oweniwe(m): 10:44am On Apr 28, 2013
Billyonaire: I want to reiterate that I believe totally in Supra-natural Powers BUT Money Ritual is a SCAM and a MYTH from the PIT of LIES.
Na wa o. Why are u contradicting yourself bro? You believe in supra- natural power or whatever u call it but don't believe in money ritual.

Its like saying . . I belive corn is used to make corn flakes but corn cannot be used to make pap/akamu/custard

In order/hierarchy, supra - natural is higher that natural. If we can printing money naturally by printing and working for money, then why can't you believe that supra-natural produce money through rituals?

Or like saying . . I believe 2013 Toyota Camry can do 0- 60 MPH in 8 seconds, but i don't believe that Mercedes Benz McLaren P1 can do 0- 60 MPH in 3 seconds- its a myth from the pit of lies

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by otipoju(m): 10:49am On Apr 28, 2013
Stage is set for a battle royale!!!
Spartan versus Billyoinare... But is the battle necesarry? Ure both on the same page because you both believe in the metaphysical... What can or cannot happen in that world and its effect on the visible one is the bone of contention... No need for fighting. Let a proper Atheist come out to disprove spartan with the light punch experiment. It will make for hilarious viewing wether the spell works or not!!!
Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by Nobody: 11:02am On Apr 28, 2013
Are these really the future leaders of our great country?
If these are, then am afraid Nigeria has no future. Just see what lillyputians have reduced Nairaland to. A site for testing the efficacy of Jazz and Juju powers. What a shame, so sad cry

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Re: Billyonaire, Kindly Accept My Supernatural Challenge To A Bet Amount by PAGAN9JA(m): 11:04am On Apr 28, 2013
^i hate these narrow minded pricks who come here and rant nonsense. lets see what kind of leaders they become. . angry

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