obadiah777: HEHE TO GOD BELONGS THE KNOWLEDGE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING BROS

now don't go all humility on me abeg

PAGAN 9JA:
racist God.

He is actually color blind

Bidam: now don't go all humility on me abeg

LMAO.

obadiah777: WHY ARE YOU DISAGREEING WITH YOURSELF ? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. HE CAME FOR THE JEWS BUT BY EXTENSION TO THE WHOLE WORLD. INCLUSIVITY VIA EXCLUSIVITY. WE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING. WHY ARE YOU DISAGREEING WITH YOURSELF ?

You're the one causing all the seeming disagreement.Your first answer was JEWS ONLy and then u later come up with INCLUSIVITY IN EXCLUSIVITY.Why don't u just simplify it.The simple answer is Yes.

Bidam: on the contrary..saints are called believers..don't get confused bro..

Brother,I am never confused,just teliing you the truth.

Truckpusher: You're damn right!...now i got it,let the ministry glow and grow

More light Sire!!

thorpido: I disagree with your post.It makes u sound like a Jew.He came primarily for the Jews but by extension to the whole world.His ministry for the whole world started even while he was here on the earth.Look at the scriptures I quoted above and tell me why He made those statements?

Salvation is of the jew!!!!

there is a post on this already

God the son, Jesus Christ as we all know him came for the Jews. He was meant to be the king of the Jews the Jews had been waiting for as foretold by their fathers but they killed the king. They didn't believe He was Christ , they expected him to come in all majesty but He decided to come as humble as He did. They were expecting a big ovation but Christ came silently. They expected him to come from v.i but the man decided to come from Okoro.



43 The next day Jesus decided to go to Galilee. He met Philip and said to him, “Follow me.” 44 Philip was from the town of Bethsaida, the same as Andrew and Peter. 45 Philip found Nathanael and told him, “We have found the man that Moses wrote about in the law. The prophets wrote about him too. He is Jesus, the son of Joseph. He is from Nazareth.”

46 But Nathanael said to Philip, “Nazareth! Can anything good come from Nazareth?”

Philip answered, “Come and see.”

They killed their king and that is the only reason why you and I are saved today. If they had received him, we would still be like the dogs as Christ described us to that cannanite woman-

22 A Canaanite woman from that area came out and began shouting, “Lord, Son of David, please help me! My daughter has a demon inside her, and she is suffering very much.”

23 But Jesus did not answer her. So the followers came to him and said, “Tell her to go away. She keeps crying out and will not leave us alone.”

24 Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people[a] of Israel.”

25 Then the woman came over to Jesus and bowed before him. She said, “Lord, help me!”

26 He answered her with this saying: “It is not right to take the children’s bread and give it to the dogs.”

But now, believers are the apple of God's eyes not the Jews

thorpido: You're being ignorant.Didn't you see 'ALL NATIONS'in d scripture?You want to define ALL to me?
I understand the purpose of the anti-christ and how his purpose is being fulfilled even now.There's a deliberate intent to twist scriptures,omit or ignore some things or simply deny things.
Do a comprehensive study and not just conclude on one scripture.Learn to match scriptures together.The bible says,'...rightly dividing the word of truth'.

You are the greatest Zombie that cant read and reason on your own. The ALL NATIONS you are talking about only show in the book of mark 16:15.

Get a Revised standard bible and read the book of mark chapter 16:14 footnote. It says authorities that translate the bible insert additional material from there.

Ancient copies of the Gospel of Mark can have several different endings. The shortest ending is found in the oldest manuscripts, all of which stop at verse 16:8. Most later manuscripts contain some additional verses, not always the same, which were apparently added to the gospel at later points in time.
Several theories have been put forward to explain the different endings:
Theory 1. The original ending (beyond verse 16: was accidentally lost. Later readers noticed the abrupt cutoff in the story, and several of them tried to finish it by inventing new endings.
Theory 2. The original ending was intentionally removed by cutting the manuscript at verse 16:8. Several later readers, unaware of what had happened, created new endings.
Theory 3. The original author was interrupted or died before he could finish the gospel, and had reached verse 16:8 at the time of the interruption.
Theory 4. The original author actually did intend to stop at verse 16:8, even though the story seems unfinished to most people.
Source:http://www.gospel-mysteries.net/ending-mark.html


Verse 8 ends with the women fleeing from the empty tomb, and saying "nothing to anyone, because they were afraid." Many scholars take 16:8 as the original ending and believe the longer ending (16:9-20) was written later by someone else as a summary of Jesus' resurrection appearances and several miracles performed by Christians.
Most scholars, following the approach of the textual critic Bruce Metzger, hold the view that verses 9-20 were not part of the original text.
Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_16

Study more than what your pastor told you in the church. Open your head and reason with your brain


You call me anti-christ? Yes I am. What more can you say huh? Im sick of your type. Pls upgrade your OS or format that dormant brain you got there

shdemidemi: God the son, Jesus Christ as we all know him came for the Jews. He was meant to be the king of the Jews the Jews had been waiting for as foretold by their fathers but they killed the king. They didn't believe He was Christ , they expected him to come in all majesty but He decided to come as humble as He did. They were expecting a big ovation but Christ came silently. They expected him to come from v.i but the man decided to come from Okoro.



43 The next day Jesus decided to go to Galilee. He met Philip and said to him, “Follow me.” 44 Philip was from the town of Bethsaida, the same as Andrew and Peter. 45 Philip found Nathanael and told him, “We have found the man that Moses wrote about in the law. The prophets wrote about him too. He is Jesus, the son of Joseph. He is from Nazareth.”

46 But Nathanael said to Philip, “Nazareth! Can anything good come from Nazareth?”

Philip answered, “Come and see.”

They killed their king and that is the only reason why you and I are saved today. If they had received him, we would still be like the dogs as Christ described us to that cannanite woman-

22 A Canaanite woman from that area came out and began shouting, “Lord, Son of David, please help me! My daughter has a demon inside her, and she is suffering very much.”

23 But Jesus did not answer her. So the followers came to him and said, “Tell her to go away. She keeps crying out and will not leave us alone.”

24 Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people[a] of Israel.”

25 Then the woman came over to Jesus and bowed before him. She said, “Lord, help me!”

26 He answered her with this saying: “It is not right to take the children’s bread and give it to the dogs.”

But now, believers are the apple of God's eyes not the Jews

Is this your belief or knowledge?

you cannot change scripture by wishfull thinking.

striktlymi:

Morning man,

...follow Paul? Is there really any difference between the teachings of Paul (or any member of the apostles) and that of Jesus? Remember Jesus called Paul directly and granted him the privilege of preaching the Good news to the gentiles:


Acts 9:4-5 and 15-16
King James Version (KJV)

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.


15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

Anyways, the following passage should answer some other query you might have:

Matthew 28:19
King James Version (KJV)

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

#Not everyone who reads Sacred scriptures understands it.

I thought you are a intelligent than this. Now answer this question for yourself. Are the lost sheep in the house of Israel in one nation? These people scattered around the globe. Are you a a lost Jew?

JOHN 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship : for salvation is of the Jews. The lost Jew are lost and scattered to all nations doesn't mean all nation will be save

MostHigh:

Is this your belief or knowledge?

you cannot change scripture by wishfull thinking.

Did I quote my words there

Acts 15:14
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
14 Simon Peter has told us how God showed his love for the non-Jewish people. For the first time, God accepted them and made them his people.

This is according to the prophesies from the book of Amos

Amos 9:11-12
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
God Promises to Restore the Kingdom

11 “David’s tent[a] has fallen,
but at that time I will set it up again.
I will fix its holes and repair its ruined parts.
I will set it up as it was before.
12 Then the people left alive in Edom,
and all the people called by my name, will look to me for help.”
This is what the Lord said,
and he will make it happen.

thorpido: I disagree with your post.It makes u sound like a Jew.He came primarily for the Jews but by extension to the whole world.His ministry for the whole world started even while he was here on the earth.Look at the scriptures I quoted above and tell me why He made those statements?

who made the extension?

FOLYKAZE:
I thought you are a intelligent than this. Now answer this question for yourself. Are the lost sheep in the house of Israel in one nation? These people scattered around the globe. Are you a a lost Jew?

JOHN 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship : for salvation is of the Jews. The lost Jew are lost and scattered to all nations doesn't mean all nation will be save

You thought I was intelligent ke? No o, I am actually a dumb azz...

Now my very dull brain tells me that you have been given more than enough evidence to show you that salvation was first to the Jews and then to the rest of the world...

If you are expecting some intelligent discourse on this then my guy, you need to look elsewhere cause all I have in stock are unintelligent answers...

#Ah mehn...Atheist forming bible scholar...what next?

shdemidemi:

Did I quote my words there

Acts 15:14
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
14 Simon Peter has told us how God showed his love for the non-Jewish people. For the first time, God accepted them and made them his people.

This is according to the prophesies from the book of Amos

Amos 9:11-12

Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
God Promises to Restore the Kingdom

11 “David’s tent[a] has fallen,
but at that time I will set it up again.
I will fix its holes and repair its ruined parts.
I will set it up as it was before.
12 Then the people left alive in Edom,
and all the people called by my name, will look to me for help.”
This is what the Lord said,
and he will make it happen.

The above in no way negates the promises made to abraham, joseph, king david e.t.c

And nowhere in scripture do we see where these promises were transferd to any church.

Joseph was promised the possession of the land (This has yet to be fufilled)

and judah was given the septre (This also the whole world is waiting for, to see yashua as a living monarch over a restored Isreal)

FOLYKAZE:

You are the greatest Zombie that cant read and reason on your own. The ALL NATIONS you are talking about only show in the book of mark 16:15.

Get a Revised standard bible and read the book of mark chapter 16:14 footnote. It says authorities that translate the bible insert additional material from there.

Ancient copies of the Gospel of Mark can have several different endings. The shortest ending is found in the oldest manuscripts, all of which stop at verse 16:8. Most later manuscripts contain some additional verses, not always the same, which were apparently added to the gospel at later points in time.
Several theories have been put forward to explain the different endings:
Theory 1. The original ending (beyond verse 16: was accidentally lost. Later readers noticed the abrupt cutoff in the story, and several of them tried to finish it by inventing new endings.
Theory 2. The original ending was intentionally removed by cutting the manuscript at verse 16:8. Several later readers, unaware of what had happened, created new endings.
Theory 3. The original author was interrupted or died before he could finish the gospel, and had reached verse 16:8 at the time of the interruption.
Theory 4. The original author actually did intend to stop at verse 16:8, even though the story seems unfinished to most people.
Source:http://www.gospel-mysteries.net/ending-mark.html


Verse 8 ends with the women fleeing from the empty tomb, and saying "nothing to anyone, because they were afraid." Many scholars take 16:8 as the original ending and believe the longer ending (16:9-20) was written later by someone else as a summary of Jesus' resurrection appearances and several miracles performed by Christians.
Most scholars, following the approach of the textual critic Bruce Metzger, hold the view that verses 9-20 were not part of the original text.
Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_16

Study more than what your pastor told you in the church. Open your head and reason with your brain


You call me anti-christ? Yes I am. What more can you say huh? Im sick of your type. Pls upgrade your OS or format that dormant brain you got there

I won't call u names though that is what u are doing now.I got more grace than to jump into the gutter with you.You start out by showing how unintelligent you are.I quoted from Matthew and u come here shouting Mark.Can't u see u're showing your folly?
I won't exchange words with you cos u just showed the kind of person u are already.I discuss with intelligent people.

striktlymi:

You thought I was intelligent ke? No o, I am actually a dumb azz...

Now my very dull brain tells me that you have been given more than enough evidence to show you that salvation was first to the Jews and then to the rest of the world...

If you are expecting some intelligent discourse on this then my guy, you need to look elsewhere cause all I have in stock are unintelligent answers...

#Ah mehn...Atheist forming bible scholar...what next?

Bible scholar my ass. The point is you should stop lying around to defend your faith. Jesus didn't mention any gentile. I even present a quote where he said the gospel must not be preached to the gentile and samaritan. This same jesus said he was sent only to the jew. He furthered by saying salvation is for the Jew. I wonder if Jesus is your master or paul.

And from the story of Jesus meeting Paul on his way to damascus cant be believe to be a true story.

Acts 9:4-7 contradicts Act 22:7:9 which automatically fails the whole story.

Next time, quote Jesus and not paul fabricated stories

lanrexlan: Brother,never in my post did I say Jesus(pbuh) is contradictory,I said matthew Jesus(pbuh) wasn't the the author of matthew.Imagine,the bible told us Jesus went about preaching the gospel and there's not even a single gospel according to st. Jesus all the gospels are according to st. Matthew,st. Luke,st. John and st. Mark.None of these people ever meet Jesus(pbuh).

You're showing ignorance here.You say Matthew never met Jesus?Don't you know he was one of the disciples and moved and walked with Jesus?
Are u just following what your imam taught u in error?
(pbuh) for Jesus?Why would Jesus Who is in the presence of God need peace to be upon Him?Why would anyone in the presence of God need peace to be upon him?
In God's presence is peace.U don't need to say peace be upon anybody in God's presence.
Anyway,it's what u were taught.....just religion.

FOLYKAZE:


Bible scholar my ass. The point is you should stop lying around to defend your faith. Jesus didn't mention any gentile. I even present a quote where he said the gospel must not be preached to the gentile and samaritan. This same jesus said he was sent only to the jew. He furthered by saying salvation is for the Jew. I wonder if Jesus is your master or paul.

And from the story of Jesus meeting Paul on his way to damascus cant be believe to be a true story.

Acts 9:4-7 contradicts Act 22:7:9 which automatically fails the whole story.

Next time, quote Jesus and not paul fabricated stories

Hope you now see why you really should leave Sacred scriptures to those who understand it...

thorpido: I won't call u names though that is what u are doing now.I got more grace than to jump into the gutter with you.You start out by showing how unintelligent you are.I quoted from Matthew and u come here shouting Mark.Can't u see u're showing your folly?
I won't exchange words with you cos u just showed the kind of person u are already.I discuss with intelligent people.

Churchian in the clothing of christians.

Matthew 15:24
24 Jesus answered, “God sentme only to the lost people[a] of Israel.”


Do you know the meaning of lost? This people are scattered in the globe. And Jesus said he came for the lost sheep and not you. Are you a Jew? Huh?


JOHN 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship : for salvation is of the Jews.


The lost Jew are lost and scattered to all nations doesn't mean all nation will be save


I did a good job destroying the authenticity of Mark 16:8-20. You cant refute that cuz the truth hit your face.

#again, upgrade your brain.

striktlymi:

Hope you now see why you really should leave Sacred scriptures to those who understand it...

I remember a great saying. "christian: only my pastor and expert in christian theology understands the bible. It not meant for other people cuz they are blind.

Reasonable man: I will leave it for the trained liars to do their job.




Are you scared to take up this challenge?

FOLYKAZE: Next time, quote Jesus and not paul fabricated stories

FOLYKAZE:
I remember a great saying. "christian: only my pastor and expert in christian theology understands the bible. It not meant for other people cuz they are blind.

Reasonable man: I will leave it for the trained liars to do their job.

Are you scared to take up this challenge?

LWKMD!!!...**In obadiah's voice**...You got jokes man!

Um...the only thing I am scared of is losing my "unintelligence" if I continue on this matter...

striktlymi:

LWKMD!!!...**In obadiah's voice**...You got jokes man!

**laugh**

Um...the only thing I am scared of is losing my "unintelligence" if I continue on this matter...

#Yawn

I need concentrate on the EKSU protest. Bye

thorpido: You're showing ignorance here.You say Matthew never met Jesus?Don't you know he was one of the disciples and moved and walked with Jesus?
Are u just following what your imam taught u in error?
(pbuh) for Jesus?Why would Jesus Who is in the presence of God need peace to be upon Him?Why would anyone in the presence of God need peace to be upon him?
In God's presence is peace.U don't need to say peace be upon anybody in God's presence.
Anyway,it's what u were taught.....just religion.

well said bro..

FOLYKAZE:

**laugh**



#Yawn

I need concentrate on the EKSU protest. Bye

Have fun with the protest man...if I were there, I might just join the 'match'.


#Power to the people

striktlymi:

You thought I was intelligent ke? No o, I am actually a dumb azz...

Now my very dull brain tells me that you have been given more than enough evidence to show you that salvation was first to the Jews and then to the rest of the world...

If you are expecting some intelligent discourse on this then my guy, you need to look elsewhere cause all I have in stock are unintelligent answers...

# Ah mehn...Atheist forming bible scholar...what next ?

IT IS TRULY THE 8TH WONDER OF THE WORLD. AN ATHEIST QUOTING THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE ENCOUNTERED MANY IN THIS SECTION

obadiah777: IT IS TRULY THE 8TH WONDER OF THE WORLD. AN ATHEIST QUOTING THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE ENCOUNTERED MANY IN THIS SECTION

Lol!!!

thorpido: You're showing ignorance here.You say Matthew never met Jesus?Don't you know he was one of the disciples and moved and walked with Jesus?
Are u just following what your imam taught u in error?
(pbuh) for Jesus?Why would Jesus Who is in the presence of God need peace to be upon Him?Why would anyone in the presence of God need peace to be upon him?
In God's presence is peace.U don't need to say peace be upon anybody in God's presence.
Anyway,it's what u were taught.....just religion.

Haha,I can feel how ignorant you are.In Islam,we respect all the prophets of ALLAH(peace be upon them all),we must know them and send blessings unto them,if you don't send blessings upon Jesus(pbuh),we muslims respect and honour him and that's why we can't do without writing PBUH at the end of the names of the prophets.No muslim is a muslim if he doesn't believe in Jesus(pbuh).

FOLYKAZE:

Churchian in the clothing of christians.

Matthew 15:24
24 Jesus answered, “God sentme only to the lost people[a] of Israel.”


Do you know the meaning of lost? This people are scattered in the globe. And Jesus said he came for the lost sheep and not you. Are you a Jew? Huh?


JOHN 4:22
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship : for salvation is of the Jews.


The lost Jew are lost and scattered to all nations doesn't mean all nation will be save


I did a good job destroying the authenticity of Mark 16:8-20. You cant refute that cuz the truth hit your face.

#again, upgrade your brain.

I quoted Matthew and u're shouting Mark.Can't u see the difference between Matthew and Mark?It shows d kind of person u are.How do u learn in your school?
I'll let u be.

MostHigh:

The above in no way negates the promises made to abraham, joseph, king david e.t.c

And nowhere in scripture do we see where these promises were transferd to any church.

Joseph was promised the possession of the land (This has yet to be fufilled)

and judah was given the septre (This also the whole world is waiting for, to see yashua as a living monarch over a restored Isreal)

the kingdom is of the Jews and eternal life is for this mythical body. Some Gentiles came to see Christ during Passover festival, He saw them and He spoke in parables cos they were not part of the fold yet-

20 There were some Greeks there too. These were some of the people who went to Jerusalem to worship at the Passover festival. 21 They went to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee. They said, “Sir, we want to meet Jesus.” 22 Philip went and told Andrew. Then Andrew and Philip went and told Jesus.

23 Jesus said to them, “The time has come for the Son of Man to receive his glory. 24 It is a fact that a grain of wheat must fall to the ground and die before it can grow and produce much more wheat. If it never dies, it will never be more than a single seed. 25 Whoever loves the life they have now will lose it. But whoever is willing to give up their life in this world will keep it. They will have eternal life.

That proverb is similar to a seed you under the soil..it multiplies. Christ had to resurrect for the gentile to have an opportunity of being save. Now we are benefitials of the promise giving to Abraham because we are sons of Abraham through faith.

shdemidemi:

the kingdom is of the Jews and eternal life is for this mythical body. Some Gentiles came to see Christ during Passover festival, He saw them and He spoke in parables cos they were not part of the fold yet-

20 There were some Greeks there too. These were some of the people who went to Jerusalem to worship at the Passover festival. 21 They went to Philip, who was from Bethsaida in Galilee. They said, “Sir, we want to meet Jesus.” 22 Philip went and told Andrew. Then Andrew and Philip went and told Jesus.

23 Jesus said to them, “The time has come for the Son of Man to receive his glory. 24 It is a fact that a grain of wheat must fall to the ground and die before it can grow and produce much more wheat. If it never dies, it will never be more than a single seed. 25 Whoever loves the life they have now will lose it. But whoever is willing to give up their life in this world will keep it. They will have eternal life.

That proverb is similar to a seed you under the soil..it multiplies. Christ had to resurrect for the gentile to have an opportunity of being save. Now we are benefitials of the promise giving to Abraham because we are sons of Abraham through faith.

Those who are sons of abraham through faith are Isreal in flesh.