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. by Nobody: 8:16am On May 15, 2013
I have been following the dailymail for a couple years now and I noticed that this year alone there have more than 20 case of rape,pregnancy and murder of underage girls some as young as (2) being a mother my self I really can't understand what would make a fully grown adult to find a minor sexually attractive, I would like to know and probably get ideas on how to protect our kids both male and female from this sexual predators.
Re: . by greatgod2012(f): 9:09am On May 15, 2013
spongeback: I have been following the dailymail for a couple years now and I noticed that this year alone there have more than 20 case of rape,pregnancy and murder of underage girls some as young as (2) being a mother my self I really can't understand what would make a fully grown adult to find a minor sexually attractive, I would like to know and probably get ideas on how to protect our kids both male and female from this sexual predators.


the fact is that, people keep quite because of stigma on the part of the kid involved, (i mean, they thought they are protecting the image and dignity of the kid involved), when it happens to their kids or their neighbour'kids for fear of blackmail on their own part, or for other reasons best known to them, but personally, i believe that, if such a molester is reported and dealt with seriously, it will serve as detterent to other potential abusers/molesters.



Another way, which i believe can save better but to some extent is to always be closer to our kids, we must always allow them to be able to pour out their minds out withour fear, so that, they will be able to confidently confide in us when anyone is trying to make a suicidal move towards them, but this may not apply to kids who are to speak.
Also, we as parents should always tell our little ones not to ever allow anyone to touch them, especially, their privates anyhow,and that if anyone tries it with them, they should run away from the person and report him/her to some other adults around them.
May God help us all.

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Re: . by biolabee(m): 9:14am On May 15, 2013
In addition s.ex oFfenders should be chemically castrated

Repeat offenders physically castrated

Pervs


greatgod2012:


the fact is that, people keep quite because of stigma on the part of the kid involved, (i mean, they thought they are protecting the image and dignity of the kid involved), when it happens to their kids or their neighbour'kids for fear of blackmail on their own part, or for other reasons best known to them, but personally, i believe that, if such a molester is reported and dealt with seriously, it will serve as detterent to other potential abusers/molesters.



Another way, which i believe can save better but to some extent is to always be closer to our kids, we must always allow them to be able to pour out their minds out withour fear, so that, they will be able to confidently confide in us when anyone is trying to make a suicidal move towards them, but this may not apply to kids who are to speak.
Also, we as parents should always tell our little ones not to ever allow anyone to touch them, especially, their privates anyhow,and that if anyone tries it with them, they should run away from the person and report him/her to some other adults around them.
May God help us all.
Re: . by Nobody: 9:24am On May 15, 2013
Biola although I want to share your sentiment its quite impossible except jungle justice is carried out which is a breach of the offenders human rights even in the developed world most offenders are given just a couple of months imprisonment.
Re: . by Nobody: 10:00am On May 15, 2013
^^^^^^ thats a lie, anyone in the developped world found ra.ping a child (aka pe.dophile) is going to jail for much more than "a couple of months" (unless the ra.pist is a minor), at least get your facts right.

here is what you should know: how can you cure a mad person? you cant! ped.ophilia ic considered a psychiatric disorder where grown men/women are attracted to children. the only thing you can do is make sure that your children know how to protect themselves with EVERYBODY. sadly, many people tell their kids to fear strangers, while many pe.dos go for people they are close to. so, the first step is to teach your kids that NOBODY should touch their private parts....... NOBODY, meaning the teacher too, the family friend too, the uncles/aunties too, NOBODY. if you (as a parent) are the only one that can touch your child down below, then you have secured your child's awareness in such cases.

as for the rest, sadly again, if a pe.do/predator has decided to ra.pe a child, there is not much anyone can do about that (unless that pe.do is locked up forever)
Re: . by Nobody: 10:11am On May 15, 2013
Mr brown jay before you call me a liar you would have done little bit of research here is a Typical case featured in the dossier, which
will be distributed to MPs this week, include
that of a man convicted of possessing 21,000
paedophile images, of which 1,000 involved
sadistic behaviour towards a child. He was
sentenced to 18 months in prison but came out automatically after nine months and was not given treatment . Nor was another man found in possession of 24,000 images, who was sentenced to 12 months, but came out at the halfway stage, meaning he spent six months in jail and again received no treatment.
Re: . by Nobody: 10:52am On May 15, 2013
spongeback: Mr brown jay before you call me a liar you would have done little bit of research here is a Typical case featured in the dossier, which
will be distributed to MPs this week, include
that of a man convicted of possessing 21,000
paedophile images, of which 1,000 involved
sadistic behaviour towards a child. He was
sentenced to 18 months in prison but came out automatically after nine months and was not given treatment . Nor was another man found in possession of 24,000 images, who was sentenced to 12 months, but came out at the halfway stage, meaning he spent six months in jail and again received no treatment.

NONSENSE again, i dont have to do any research to CONFIRM and REPEAT what i wrote earlier. now pls focus on what i wrote and what is IMPORTANT HERE, instead of writing about the prosecution of people who HAVE PHOTOS of pe.dophilia, while i am telling you about people who do these barbaric acts....... aka the source of this problem. take the problem at its source, which is the people who abuse these kids!

pls dont confuse the se.xual predators of children with the ones who simply indulge in watching these pictures. these are 2 different crimes, prosecuted in 2 different ways. now, your first post is about se.xual predators against children, so i replied to just that.

so let me write it again, since you may have missed it:
anyone in the developped world found ra.ping a child (aka pe.dophile) is going to jail for much more than "a couple of months" (unless the ra.pist is a minor), at least get your facts right.
Re: . by Nobody: 11:53am On May 15, 2013
MRbrownJAY:

NONSENSE again, i dont have to do any research to CONFIRM and REPEAT what i wrote earlier. now pls focus on what i wrote and what is IMPORTANT HERE, instead of writing about the prosecution of people who HAVE PHOTOS of pe.dophilia, while i am telling you about people who do these barbaric acts....... aka the source of this problem. take the problem at its source, which is the people who abuse these kids!

pls dont confuse the se.xual predators of children with the ones who simply indulge in watching these pictures. these are 2 different crimes, prosecuted in 2 different ways. now, your first post is about se.xual predators against children, so i replied to just that.

so let me write it again, since you may have missed it:
anyone in the developped world found ra.ping a child (aka pe.dophile) is going to jail for much more than "a couple of months" (unless the ra.pist is a minor), at least get your facts right.


I don't know where people get their info from these days - a man got 38 years yesterday for rape and murder of a 12 year old so i don't get the point.

Even if they don't go t jail you think life is easy for them being on se/x offenders list and failing basic CRB checks. please tell me what punishment is given to child abusers and r/apists in nigeria so that i can rush back home and stay 'safe' with my little girl.

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Re: . by coogar: 12:05pm On May 15, 2013
spongeback: Mr brown jay before you call me a liar you would have done little bit of research here is a Typical case featured in the dossier, which
will be distributed to MPs this week, include
that of a man convicted of possessing 21,000
paedophile images, of which 1,000 involved
sadistic behaviour towards a child. He was
sentenced to 18 months in prison but came out automatically after nine months and was not given treatment . Nor was another man found in possession of 24,000 images, who was sentenced to 12 months, but came out at the halfway stage, meaning he spent six months in jail and again received no treatment.

you cannot compare possession of lewd images to people who actually committed the act. yes, they are both pedöphilic but one is lewder than the order.

a convicted sex offender against a minor would get long years behind bars. it's not tolerated anywhere in the developed world. he would be lucky not to even get attacked by fellow inmates.

he then comes out with his name registered for life as a sex offender. do you know what that means? he would never gain employment again. the law is strict on pêdophiles.
Re: . by dasparrow: 1:06pm On May 15, 2013
coogar:

you cannot compare possession of lewd images to people who actually committed the act. yes, they are both pedöphilic but one is lewder than the order.

a convicted sex offender against a minor would get long years behind bars. it's not tolerated anywhere in the developed world. he would be lucky not to even get attacked by fellow inmates.

he then comes out with his name registered for life as a sex offender. do you know what that means? he would never gain employment again. the law is strict on pêdophiles.

@Bolded

That is what I love about the western world. They deal with sex offenders thoroughly. Nigeria however gives them a slap on the wrist and that is why Nigerian society is crawling with pervs.
Re: . by biolabee(m): 2:04pm On May 15, 2013
dasparrow:

@Bolded

That is what I love about the western world. They deal with sex offenders thoroughly. Nigeria however gives them a slap on the wrist and that is why Nigerian society is crawling with pervs.

True.. they FG even pardoned a so.domist along with Alams
Re: . by biolabee(m): 2:19pm On May 15, 2013
Man abducts, assaults GO’s 13-yr-old daughter
on MAY 15, 2013 · in NEWS

BY GABRIEL ENOGHOLASE
BENIN — AN Oredo Magistrate Court sitting in Benin, Monday, remanded a cleric, Pastor Fidelis Ejoke, 23 for abducting and indecently assaulting his General Overseer’s 13-year-old daughter.

The accused person pleaded not guilty to the two-count charge of unlawful and indecent assault and abduction, an offence which contravenes Sections 360 and 362 of the Criminal Code.

Police Prosecutor, Mr. Samuel Ogaht, told the court presided over by the Chief Magistrate, Mr. Peter Edo-Asemota, that the the minor was the daughter of the Pastor Ejoke’s General Overseer.

Testifying, the 13-year-old junior secondary school student told the court how the accused started making love to her in November 2012.

She also explained how the said pastor asked her to go to her mother’s safe to bring money, adding that she gave the money to him without counting it and later the pastor confirmed it was N145,000.

The court, however, said the accused should be remanded in prison while the case was adjourned to June 23, 2013.



http://www.vanguardngr.com/category/national-news/



and someone says castration is mild
Re: . by Nobody: 2:53pm On May 15, 2013
^^^castration wont solve the problem ONE BIT, and people should focus on what is important here. just because a person cant have an er.ection, doesnt mean he will stop abusing children. these sick people will use their fingers, dil.do or whatever to continue their sick acts and get satisfied (which we all know starts from the MIND). the only way to solve the problem is with complete separation, meaning to lock up forever anybody who has such tendencies, or complete removal of such individual (aka death).

let us all not forget that there are also many women who se.xually abuse children. should we also "castrate" them?
Re: . by Nobody: 3:11pm On May 15, 2013
Removing them as MBJ suggested should be a better deal, yes, death penalty will make more sense.I can't think of a stiffer penalty for a cradle snatcher.
Re: . by coogar: 3:11pm On May 15, 2013
women abuse children more than men sef........ the solution is to lock them up somewhere for the rest of their lives. any abuse against children should have zero tolerance.
Re: . by Nobody: 3:14pm On May 15, 2013
coogar: women abuse children more than men sef........ the solution is to lock them up somewhere for the rest of their lives. any abuse against children should have zero tolerance.

shocked shocked shocked

Ok that does it . . . where's my cutlass! angry angry cheesy
Re: . by baby124: 3:15pm On May 15, 2013
You need to tell and educate your kids on what is appropriate behavior or inappropriate behavior with adults. Also tell them that it is ok for them to tell you anything. If they come to you with anything, just listen. Dont judge or blame.

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Re: . by Nobody: 3:30pm On May 15, 2013
^^^sadly this is the grey area, because telling your children what you wrote, would leave the door open to anyone close to the family (friends etc) to win the trust and abuse these children. everyone should teach their kids that NOBODY should either touch them down below or even try to peep there etc. the minute a parent says that someone is "ok" then thats when they open the door to possible abuse.

we dont know who these insane people are, and until they are caught, they look just like you and I, so do not trust ANYONE with the safety/wellbeing of your children. would you be able to look at yourself in the mirror, if the abuser happens to be someone you vouched for?!
Re: . by dayokanu(m): 3:43pm On May 15, 2013
Death penalty or Life jail would suffice
Re: . by baby124: 4:03pm On May 15, 2013
MRbrownJAY: ^^^sadly this is the grey area, because telling your children what you wrote, would leave the door open to anyone close to the family (friends etc) to win the trust and abuse these children. everyone should teach their kids that NOBODY should either touch them down below or even try to peep there etc. the minute a parent says that someone is "ok" then thats when they open the door to possible abuse.

we dont know who these insane people are, and until they are caught, they look just like you and I, so do not trust ANYONE with the safety/wellbeing of your children. would you be able to look at yourself in the mirror, if the abuser happens to be someone you vouched for?!

No where in my statement did i write that anyone was exempt. Adults mean any and everyone. The post specifically relates to adults, so i am responding to the post. My statement is all encompassing.
Re: . by Nobody: 5:18pm On May 15, 2013
^^^sorry, my bad!
Re: . by Nobody: 5:39pm On May 15, 2013
And I hope you know that most adults are really manipulative! Why do think it takes years before most kids finally admit they where raped or touched inappropriately? How can you suspect that nice uncle or priest that has taken special liking to your kid? So telling your kids where not to be touched doesn't really solve anything cos when it happens they may feel too guilty to open up to you.
Re: . by coogar: 5:46pm On May 15, 2013
spongeback: And I hope you know that most adults are really manipulative! Why do think it takes years before most kids finally admit they where raped or touched inappropriately? How can you suspect that nice uncle or priest that has taken special liking to your kid most? So telling your kids where not to be touched doesn't really solve anything cos when it happens they may feel too guilty to open up to you.

kids will tell everything if the parents don't form a defensive shield around themselves. this is why it's important for parents to be there when the kids return from school.

kids are more likely to talk about how their day went in that casual mode in which they just ramble on forever - rather than parents that work till late in the night. by then, the kids would have forgotten half of how their day went.
Re: . by Nobody: 5:49pm On May 15, 2013
spongeback: And I hope you know that most adults are really manipulative! Why do think it takes years before most kids finally admit they where raped or touched inappropriately? How can you suspect that nice uncle or priest that has taken special liking to your kid? So telling your kids where not to be touched doesn't really solve anything cos when it happens they may feel too guilty to open up to you.

Has been addressed.

baby_123: Also tell them that it is ok for them to tell you anything. If they come to you with anything, just listen. Dont judge or blame.

Just be open and receptive to your kids, ask about their day. Give practical simple, stepwise advice as to what to do if such happens.

*This might not be palatable to some, but I would also add, suspect everybody* It's not written on anyone's face. Like has been said, it is usually people who know and are close to the child that do this. If the child is spending time alone with others, best to name their names specifically to your child and say, "so and so is not allowed to take off your clothes, touch your privates, hurt you, look at you naked, make you touch his/her privates etc If he/she tries to do it, that makes them a bad person and you need to do so and so and tell mom or dad right away".."If any adult tells you to keep a secret from mommy or daddy, that means they are a bad person and you need to run from them and tell me the secret"
Re: . by baby124: 5:52pm On May 15, 2013
ileobatojo:

Has been addressed.



Just be open and receptive to your kids, ask about their day. Give practical simple, stepwise advice as to what to do if such happens.

Thanks jare, i mentioned that because in abuse cases, the mode of operation is to scare the kids into not telling their parents. The adults tell them that "No one will believe you" " your parents will beat you" "I will harm your parents". If they have not been led to be comfortable with saying anything to their parents, they will believe this. So communication and being open with them is very important. Especially in these times when you cannot trust anyone with your kids. Its crazy how perverted some people are. Even their own classmates are perverted. its becoming harder to maintain a child's innocence. And it doesnt help that some parents are capable of saying " if you didnt wear such clothes, you wouldnt have been molested" smh embarassed
Re: . by biolabee(m): 6:15pm On May 15, 2013
byvan: Removing them as MBJ suggested should be a better deal, yes, death penalty will make more sense.I can't think of a stiffer penalty for a cradle snatcher.

that is good too but i tell you a man with no libido is dead already

I prefer to be dead than not use that thing in my prime years...
Re: . by biolabee(m): 6:18pm On May 15, 2013
ileobatojo: This might not be palatable to some but I would also add suspect everybody.
It's not written on anyone's face


I like the bolded and its true 100%... abuses are usually from familiar persons- cousins, uncles, lesson teachers, piano teachers and everyone;s favoriate - male househelps etc
that is why im scared for girl children especially
Re: . by biolabee(m): 8:48am On May 16, 2013
more bad news

More pervs abound.. what can we do to keep our daughters safe shocked cry

Teacher arrested for handling 14-year-old pupil
MAY 16, 2013 BY COMFORT OSEGHALE 6 COMMENTS
A 24-year-old teacher, Phillip Ebong, was arrested on Wednesday by the Gowon Estate Police Division, Akowonjo, Lagos, for allegedly victimising a 14-year-old pupil (name withheld) and banning her from attending his classes.
Ebong, who teaches Physics and Chemistry at the Dee Jewels International College, Gowon Estate, Egbeda, was arrested during school hours after a complaint was lodged at the police station by Spaces for Change, a non-governmental organisation on youth development, on behalf of the pupil and her guardian, Mrs. Theresa Amaechi.
A copy of the petition made available to PUNCH Metro revealed that Ebong began harassing the victim from the first day of her enrolment in the school in January 2013.
[b]The petition read, “On repeated occasions, Ebong invited the victim to the staff room informing her of his desire to have an intimate relationship with her. Consequently, the victim became a regular visitor to the staff room during break periods.
“On such visits, he made sexual advances to her which often involved kissing and hugging. Several times, Ebong followed her home, waiting at the gate to avoid being seen by her guardian.”
The petition alleged that under much pressure from Ebong, the victim eventually invited the teacher to her guardians’ home while they were away.
Ebong was alleged to have cajoled her to expose her private part, after handling her breasts and kissing her.
It was said the harassment became too persistent, that the victim allegedly earned the title, “Uncle Phillip’s wife,” among her classmates and friends.
Amaechi told PUNCH Metro, “The victim is a timid girl. I did not know the extent of the harassment she was facing until she opened up to me last Friday. Earlier, she had told me Ebong was asking her for a relationship and I told her to reject his advances. I thought it would stop at that.[/b]
“I was shocked when she told me last week that she was no longer interested in staying in the science class; she wanted to switch to the arts and when I asked why, she said it was because Ebong had banned her from his classes.
“Apparently, she had told him that I was aware that he had asked her for a sexual relationship. The revelation angered him. He even went as far as threatening that she would fail her examinations,”
As of the time of Ebong’s arrest, the school principal was said to be busy as the SSS III students were taken the WAEC examination.
However the school proprietor, identified as Mrs. Azubuike, who was alerted to the development, rushed down to the school. She said the victim never made a formal report to the school.
She said, “We don’t condone such acts here. Had we been informed on time, we would have taken appropriate action.”
When confronted, Ebong allegedly denied the accusation. He blamed the entire situation on his interest in his students’ success.
He said, “I am close to all my students; that is what I was taught in the College of Education that a teacher had to be friendly. I just took an interest in the victim because I noticed she was not taking her homework seriously. All this talk of my touching and kissing her, they are all lies. I admit going to her house but it was because I wanted to see her guardian.”
Executive Director of Spaces for Change, Mrs. Victoria Ibezim-Ohaeri, said Amaechi came to her with the case on the same day her ward confided in her.
She said, “We are prepared to seek legal redress in the court should the school and police fail to investigate this matter and exercise full disciplinary action against Ebong.
“Our investigation has also shown that there are other students currently being abused by this same Ebong.
“These acts of misconduct are not only indicative of poor supervision and negligence on the part of the school authorities, but also amount to continuing breeches of the victim’s fundamental human rights.”
As of press time, PUNCH Metro gathered that the police had obtained statements from the victim’s classmates and friends.
The Lagos State Police Public Relations Officer, DSP Ngozi Braide, when contacted, said, “I will let you know when I have the full details.”


http://www.punchng.com/news/teacher-arrested-for-handling-14-year-old-pupil/#comments
Re: . by biolabee(m): 10:24am On May 19, 2013
More pervs on the loose

https://www.nairaland.com/1294476/principal-impregnates-student-kogi

May God help our daughters and sisters
Re: . by Nobody: 3:45pm On May 19, 2013
It's not just about daughters ,sons are being sexually abused on regular basis and I try to protect my boys the way I would protect daughters.No one should be trusted ooooo,mothers should keep their eyes open.
Re: . by biolabee(m): 6:43pm On May 19, 2013
true.. but frequency of abuse affects the females more
Re: . by biolabee(m): 7:57am On May 23, 2013
Tragic.. its really bad
When will our daughters, mothers and sisters be safe

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/nigerias-troubling-epidemic-of-rapes/

[size=20pt]Nigeria’s troubling epidemic of rapes
ON MAY 23, 2013
[/size]
By Is’haq Modibbo Kawu
LAST week, the Centre for Environment, Human Rights and Development, an NGO, reported that in 2012, no fewer than 1, 200 girls were raped in Rivers state.
The state Project Officer of the body, Michael Gbarale, who is also the chairman of the Child Protection Network, added that: “of this figure (of 1,200), gang rapes were more frequent”.
49 cases were reported to the Network, while 800 others, were treated by ‘doctors without border’. Out of the 49 cases taken to the Child Protection Network, 11 were gang rapes; 44 were ordinary rape cases.

In another survey to investigate high HIV prevalence and lower age for sex among adolescents between 10 and 19 years, carried out by the Positive Action for Treatment Access (PATA), it found out that: “forced sex was the third main reason for sexual debut” after love and peer pressure. It said that more than 31.4 percent of girls, many of them living with HIV, reported “forced sex” or rape as the basis of first sexual encounter.
Doctor Morenike Ukpong who presented the study at a national dialogue on adolescents living with HIV in Nigeria, told DAILY TRUST, that “if 31.4 percent of females can report their first sexual debut as rape, I think it is an epidemic…We have an epidemic called rape that we are not addressing. It is something to weep over”.
Dr. Ukpong went on that “for many of those who are HIV positive, their exposure to HIV is because of rape. It is a risk factor for HIV infection and we are not dealing with that”. Some of those in the study were as young as seven: “the man said if I tell my mum or dad he would kill me.
He showed me a knife and I was afraid, I was just seven years old then. He was sleeping with me everyday and I was fearful to talk to anybody. I bled, my sister saw it but I could not tell her what happened…” Stories like these are in the media almost on a daily basis in Nigeria.

There was a report from Auchi, where students at the Polytechnic, kidnapped their classmate, raped her for days and later killed her. There are postings of horrific pictures of young men, somewhere in Rivers state, who raped a girl and then buried her alive, but were discovered by military men.
They were forced to exhume the corpse and the video was posted on the internet! Or the girl that was raped and a huge staff was stuff into her as she laid dead.
A few years ago, I noticed that in WEEKLY TRUST, we were carrying regular stories from around Northern Nigeria, of the rape of minors, between two and eight years.

I put a reporter on the trail to be able to do an investigative piece, while I also did a column. In the period since, there has developed almost a boom industry in rape all over our country.
There are several cases of fathers abusing their children too and in many of the cases, these rapists would blame their act on the devil! Clearly, there is something fundamentally broken in our country. The epidemic of rape has deep sociological and even biological factors.
In a society of deep-seated male chauvinism, reinforced by the erosion of economic power, there is a serious crisis of virility and esteem, which is falsely reclaimed in acts of violence against women. Rape has been studied in many places as part of a package of false consciousness, where a rapist imagines himself as expressing male power in domination of the victim.

There is also the breakdown of the family and the ability to have healthy sexual life in marriages, in societies where it has become difficult to marry, due to economic reasons. This is especially true in Muslim communities in Northern Nigeria, where religious restraint is also breaking down, especially in the urban setting.
People have grown up in a culture of separation of the sexes and rape is one of the avenues for encountering the woman, who might just be a minor as we have seen in many media reports in the North and even beyond.
Even economic hardship has hamstrung individuals’ ability to seek the comfort of commercial sex workers; and a few weeks ago, the press reported a young man, somewhere in Eastern Nigeria, who “specialised” in raping very elderly women! Arrested, he confessed that he couldn’t get young girls, so he targeted the elderly.

We have not by the narrative underplayed the serious criminality that rape represents and as we have seen from the study of adolescent sex and HIV infection, the consequences of the epidemic of rape that we live with today, are very grave!
Nigerian sociologists, other social scientists, religious bodies and social workers, the state and society at large, must become far more conscious of the seriousness of the issue rape. We must not bury our heads in the sand, because even our children, loved ones and neighbours can become victims!
There is no gainsaying the fact that something is broken in the Nigerian society today and the epidemic of rapes merely reflects and reinforces the desperate social situation in contemporary society. The epidemic of rapes damages the humanity of the victims and dehumanises all of our society; we must not let it roll us over completely!

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