texanomaly:






We have seven pages of mostly nonsense. These are the only quotes I have found by Seun. Was this thread a joke? I was actually curious. After 7 pages I still don't know "what Seun believes". I know he said that he left faith, because it failed him. He stated that. Someone said he is an atheist and an agnostic. Seun did not say either. Another comment was that he is a Muslim. Seun did not say he is, or isn’t. Perhaps you, Seun, feel it is not our business. I can live with that. Is it possible, Seun, to at least acknowledge that it is not? I admit I am curious. Obviously there are others who are also curious. However, I am willing to accept that it is not my business to know.

Now, if you do not mind telling us what you believe. Hmmm…I just realized, I don’t even remember the original question. So here it is. The question was not “What do you believe.”



The questions were as follows:

Do you have a bias against Christianity?

What or who do you worship?

Simple questions: Tell us it is none of our business, or answer please. Perhaps you simply choose not to. That is a cop-out. At least, “It’s none of your business" is a stand. Have you ever heard the phrase: ‘If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything.

Thank you,
Tex

One thing is for sure: Seun believes in Fatwa. He can give you thousands of dollars if you approach him with a Fatwa or threat of Fatwa. He can even dash you a big section of his website to do as you please as long as you don't bring him into the presence of the almighty Fatwa.

There you have it. That's his major belief for now.

Other beliefs include hiring frustarted mods that don't know the meaning of moderating and think that to moderate a forum is to ban people they don't like. He also believes he's a busy man and have no time for his website members' opinions. He believes he is greater and bigger than all of you. He believes in a lot of things.

But why are you bothered about his beliefs anyway? Wetin concern you with what he believes or doesn't believe. You just sound like a busybody that won't mind her own business. He can believe whatever he wants, so stop disturbing people here. Seun is nobody special, just a website owner like millions of other people.

'Just a website owner like millions of other people'

hmmm, best thing I've ever heard you say

Seun: I come from a Christian family. All the members of my family are Christians - except for my stubborn self, who left faith after it failed him.

It is well with your soul. Amen. God will give you every reason to worship Him.

@ Alfa Seltzer…well here we go again. Someone else who presumes to tell me what Seun believes. Since I am no Mufti, he has nothing to fear from me. It is interesting to me that so many profess to know what Seun believes. I understand he is just a man…do you? You are the one who is apparently in his business. I merely asked a question. I qualified that question with the fact that; ‘It’s none of my business,’ would suffice. I meant it. I have my answer, and I am willing to accept it.

Tex

#And seun watches, smiling broadly as he reads#

princesa: #And seun watches, smiling broadly as he reads#

I dey tells you ...#Seun sees this other comment, and laughs#

gluv01:

I dey tells you ...#Seun sees this other comment, and laughs#

lol...its a free world afterall

texanomaly: Science vs. God

Let me explain the problem science has with Jesus Christ.' The atheist Professor of Philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'

'Yes sir,' the student says.

'So you believe in God?'

'Absolutely.'

'Is God good?'

'Sure! God's good.'

'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'

'Yes.'

'Are you good or evil?'

'The Bible says I'm evil.'

The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!' He considers for a moment. 'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'

'Yes sir, I would.'

'So you're good...!'

'I wouldn't say that.'

'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?'

The student remains silent.


'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.

'Let's start again, young fella Is God good?'

'Er...yes,' the student says.

'Is Satan good?'

The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'

'Then where does Satan come from?'

The student : 'From...God...'

'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?'

'Yes, sir.'

'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?'

'Yes.'

'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'

Without allowing the student to answer, the professor continues: 'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?'

The student: 'Yes.'

'So who created them?'

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. 'Who created them? There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'

The student's voice is confident: 'Yes, professor, I do.'

The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?'

'No sir. I've never seen Him'

'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'

'No, sir, I have not.'

'Have you ever actually felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'

'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'

'Yet you still believe in him?'

'Yes.'

'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'

'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I have my faith.'

'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of his own. Professor, is there such thing as heat?'

'Yes,' the professor replies. 'There's heat.'

'And is there such a thing as cold?'

'Yes, son, there's cold too.'

'No sir, there isn't.'

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.

'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees. Everybody or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.'

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'

'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it isn't darkness ?'

'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'

'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. 'Flawed? Can you explain how?'

'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.' 'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?'

'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do'

'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?'

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.

'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean.' The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into laughter.

' Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelled the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?' Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I guess you'll have to take them on faith.'


'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?'

Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's in humanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'

To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir , or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light.'

The professor sat down.

Trying to prove God exists with logic. Can NOT work. With all the long story we end up with 'Evil is simply the absence of God'. But God can not be absent. God is everywhere and every place. God is supposed to be in charge.

texanomaly: @ Alfa Seltzer…well here we go again. Someone else who presumes to tell me what Seun believes. Since I am no Mufti, he has nothing to fear from me. It is interesting to me that so many profess to know what Seun believes. I understand he is just a man…do you? You are the one who is apparently in his business. I merely asked a question. I qualified that question with the fact that; ‘It’s none of my business,’ would suffice. I meant it. I have my answer, and I am willing to accept it.

Tex

You can check through Seun's profile for his past posts and see therein his views. He is an atheist.

Uyi Iredia:

You can check through Seun's profile for his past posts and see therein his views. He is an atheist.

Thanx

Seun: I come from a Christian family. All the members of my family are Christians - except for my stubborn self, who left faith after it failed him.

God Never Fails anybody.
The life you have was given to you by God, not by chance.
What Shall It Profit A Man if He Gains The Whole World, but Lose His Soul.
Life is full of ups and downs my brother, but do we end our life when we fail? NO! Cause that would be suicide, f00lish.

I am not in any way maligning you for your belief. Do you have answers to many of life's mysteries including but not limited to BIRTH and DEATH?

Nothing happened by chance, so do not live your life to chance.

Turn to God, you have nothing to lose.

I am saddened by this bit of information, but all I can do is tell you the TRUTH.

gbigbega: This morning, I reminisce over how I had faith in God and yet did not receive what I wanted.

My Story

I was to do an exam for promotion in my place of work. I was told that it was impossible to get this promotion except you know somebody's high up who can help you. I was told that my result will not count. I trusted God for it, read very well, made the first papers, made the second and was told by the executives that I outshined every other in the last examination. I was confident I will make it. Somebody told me he could help me get the job through a senator, irrespective of my mark and I refused the offer. I trusted God to help me through it. I told myself "if faith I want to see it happen in my life" I wanted to practice what I preach. Days before the last result came out, I had two dreams. In the first, I saw a man who told me they are trying to change my result and give my place to another. I prayed but did not go to any person for help. In the second dream, I saw I had 96% and it was changed to 56% which was below the cut off point. I did a lot of praying and held on to God, refusing to take the easy way. To tell you the truth, getting the job for me was like life and death, yet i layed it up to God to decide. The result came out and I didn't make it. I was devastated. I threw it all on trusting God and it did not work. I lost so much loosing that opportunity and all my colleague though I was very stupid because they were all aware of all the connections in my arsenal.

Looking back now, I see it has all been for good. I never lost faith in God despite the fact that I didn't get what I wanted then. Now I am better for it, running my own company.

God takes us through some circumstances just to give us better testimony in time to come. Like The story of Lazarus in the bible in John 11. Jesus sent message to Lazarus that he will not die, yet Lazarus died. You sometimes may hear God speak to you about something and yet it did not manifest. This is usually because He wants to use you to manifest His Glory. In the later verse of that bible passage, Jesus rose Lazarus again from the dead. That changed a lot of people's mind about Jesus and power of God.

Seun, if faith has failed you, it was because God had something greater for you and you didn't know it. After praying, if somebody you love die, if maybe because God knew what evil the existence of such person will cause. If you understand how God works, you will know that all things that happen to us are always for our Good.

In Luke 22:32, Jesus told peter he prayed for him so that his faith will not fail. This mean faith can fail but what will not fail is God and his word.

God bless you

@ nairaplus......you have said nothing . Were you trying to sooth your Christian conscience by preaching your delusional beliefs to seun or what ? Rubbish!