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Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by mafifle: 12:10am On Jun 18, 2013 |
Most certainly the issue was not Mbaise v Catholic Church. It was most certainly an unjust appointment perpetuated by people we most respect and trust to direct us. Pope appoints Bishops as advised by Cardinals and Bishops. Now why Mbaise Acted with no fear, no surrender or retreat Why the bungling Nuncio and Nigerian Catholic Bishops retreated to ordain Okpaleke in a mare seminary not even a Church talk less of a Cathedral. Like Christ we stood for the truth, justice and the Canon Law and not the Nigerian Bishops' Law or a biased Nuncio. The entire Owerri Province decided it was game over for the Onitsha Province. After all negotiations failed Okpaleke was sent back to Awka after Ordination because no one dared accept him in case he became a liability or auxiliary by default. All efforts to deceive people that this was only about spiritual and obedience I say foul. Now look at the statistics of "arurur ala" below how all Bishops come from Onitsha dioceses in the old Anambra region and realise why Mbaise was right to agitate. In fact Mbaise should be congratulated for challenging the corruption and nepotism of the so called hierarchy. See how we have been robbed There are 15 Bishops from the Onitsha Ecclesiastical Province active and retired. There are have been 4 from Owerri Province. Forget the nonsense of petitions. Domination The Onitsha Ecclesiastical Province has domination of the church hierarchy not only inside but also inside. They have reserved their Episcopal vacancies for their priests only, and prevent other dioceses outside Onitsha Province from filling their own vacancies. This is another flashpoint in the crisis involving the appointment of Fr. Okpalaeke. This problem is shown in the following table below. Name Place of Origin Diocese Date 1 Bishop Godfrey Okoye (R.I.P) Onitsha Eccl. Province Port Harcourt 1961-1970 2 Bishop Vincent Ezeonyia Onitsha Eccl. Province Aba 1990- 3 Bishop Emmanuel Otteh (R.I.P) Onitsha Eccl. Province Iselle-Uku 1996-2003 4 Bishop Martin Uzoukwu Onitsha Eccl. Province Minna 1996- 5 Bishop Augustine Akubeze Onitsha Eccl. Province Uromi 2005-2011 6 Bishop Solomon Amatu Onitsha Eccl. Province Okigwe 2005- 7 Archbishop AugustineAkubeze Onitsha Eccl. Province Arch. Benin 2011- 8 Msgr. Peter Okpalaeke Onitsha Eccl. Province Ahiara 2012 We can see that they have a pattern of ruling both inside and outside their Province. And this is called universalism? Lopsidedness in Episcopal Portfolio Next, the summary of all the bishops from the two Ecclesiastical Provinces shows that while Onitsha Ecclesiastical Province has a total of fifteen bishops (both retired and active), Owerri Ecclesiastical Province has only a total of four bishops (both retired and active). The comprehensive table is as follows: Lopsidedness in Episcopal Portfolio Next, the summary of all the bishops from the two Ecclesiastical Provinces shows that while Onitsha Ecclesiastical Province has a total of fifteen bishops (both retired and active), Owerri Ecclesiastical Province has only a total of four bishops (both retired and active). The comprehensive table is as follows: Bishops of Onitsha Province Bishops of Owerri Province 1 Francis Cardinal Arinze (retired) 1 Archbishop Anthony Obinna 2 Archbishop Valerian Okeke 2 Bishop Augustine Ukwuoma 3 Archbishop Augustine Akubeze 3 Bishop Lucius Ugorji 4 Bishop Paulinus Ezeokafor 4 Bishop Gregory Ochiagha (emeritus) 5 Bishop Hilary Okeke 6 Bishop Callistus Onaga 7 Bishop John Okoye 8 Bishop Martin Uzoukwu 9 Bishop Michael Okoro 10 Bishop Francis Okobo 11 Bishop Vincent Ezeonyia 12 Bishop Solomon Amatu 13 Bishop Simon Okafor (emeritus) 14 Fr. Peter Okpalaeke? (appointed) 15 Fr. Godfrey Onah (appointed) The bishops call this the table of universalism, but we call it the table of domination. What is universal about Onitsha Province having 15 bishops, while Owerri Province has only FOUR BISHOPS? There is a culture of favoritism and cronyism in the polity of Nigeria. Hence, we are also drawing the attention of the Church hierarchy to the danger of being perceived as favoring one Province over the others, or favoring one group over the others. The corrupt template of the Nigerian political map is never to be associated, directly or indirectly, with the Holy Church of God. Attention Please!! Some people have been calling us names, character assassinating, engaging in debauchery, and indulging in calumny against us. Perhaps, this is their own level of research and argumentation. Let me be absolutely clear about one thing: Our problem is not about individuals. It is about injustice. To those calling us names, I narrate this story. One day, a man was taking his bath in a local Nigerian makeshift bathroom. Suddenly, a madman came to the place and took away the clothing which the bathing person kept there. Upon seeing what happened, the man taking his bath ran out naked in pursuit of the clothed madman in order to snatch back his dress from the madman. When people saw the two of them running, they began to run away from the naked man thinking that he was the real mad person. Ndi Mbaise, we cannot repeat this mistake, else people begin to think that we are the real mad people. To use this analogy, as sane people fighting for justice and a just cause, we have to continue with our “shower” and let the mad person to continue with his madness. We will not expose our unclothedness in order to recover our clothes. We will not lose our sanity in order to be in pursuit of a mad person. But WE WILL NOT RELINQUISH THE OFO NA OGU MBAISE. Conclusion Finally, can someone tell us why the evidence in this presentation is not about injustice? Can someone tell us why Episcopal appointments in Igboland is not lopsided? Can someone tell us why this is not about domination? Can someone tell us why this is not about cabalism in the Catholic Church hierarchy? The Mbaise struggle is about justice and fairness in the appointment of bishops in Igboland and Nigeria as a whole. The Catholic Church hierarchy should rectify this injustice. Let them bear in mind that justice delayed is justice denied. So help us God! Amen! Courtesy of Amadi Azuogu |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by Sunnybobo3(m): 12:36am On Jun 18, 2013 |
Dude, are you still on this exercise in futility? |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by Nobody: 9:36am On Jun 18, 2013 |
@ mafifleor whatever you call your name. something tells me that you are a Catholic Priest who has lost focus. If your argument is tenable, I dont see why the catholic faithful in Rome will allow an outsider to occupy the office of Bishop of Rome. As a Priest or even a Christian which you call yourself, how many souls have you converted to Christ? So you are saying that the people of Mbaise have been denied the opportunity to rule abi? Better go and take up your bible and read again Luke 4:18-19 where Jesus said “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free,to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” If you like quote all the relevant canons to substantiate your claims it doesnt take away the fact that you have lost focus. So you better get focused on your Christian calling. Point of corrrection: Archbishop Augustine Akubeze was ordained for the diocese of Isse-uku and not for Ontisha. get your facts right. Food for thought especially to you and your cohorts: All the people God called to carry out great tasks for Him resisted at some point: Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Peter etc.... When people begin to drag for position that is meant purely for servie of a sacrifical nature then there's more that meet the eyes. 1 Like |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by Nobody: 9:50am On Jun 18, 2013 |
See wetin offering money dey cause. My hapinex be say nobody dey chop my money now as offering. I no dey pay again. God no dey chop money.na praises him dey chop 1 Like |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by adconline(m): 12:42pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
mafifle: Most certainly the issue was not Mbaise v Catholic You are not telling us the whole truth. Onitsha Eccl Province is the oldest in SE/SS. Owerri Eccl Province is an out post of Onitsha. How come Owerri Eccl province has 4 dioceses with smaller combined population while Onitsha Eccl Province has 3 dioceses with bigger combined population? Why are you not seeing any marginalization in it ? |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by kutchs: 3:35pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
adconline:While I have always maintained it‘s dangerous the way this issue is going and the need for all parties involved to reach a compromise, I must point out however that you are wrong somewhere. Owerri Eccl Province has 6 dioceses viz Owerri, Aba, Orlu, Okigwe, Umuahia and Ahaira. Having pointed out that error, I think the Vatican has to take into consideration the character of each diocese in the appointment of a bishop. Ahiara is mostly a rural diocese (the most rural in Nigeria in fact) and that over 99.9% of the faithfuls are indigenes of Mbaise and we can say in effect the church in Ahiara belongs to Mbaise people ‘exclusively‘ thus imposing a bishop from ‘outside‘ on a rural diocese is dangerous. The character of the Church in Mbaise is different from the character of the Universal Church. The UC is headquartered in Rome and does not belong to Romans only to the whole world thus anyone can lay claim to its headship with squabbles but that is not te case with Ahiara diocese headquartered in Nnarambia with almost 100% local faithfuls both clergy and laity. That to me is the argument of the people of Mbaise. On another note, don‘t you think it portends danger for the Church in Mbaise if Bishop Okpaleke assumes office against the people he‘s supposed to sherpherd? Do you think he will get the best out of his priests (in terms of obedience, respect and support)? Do you think the people will welcome him with open arms when he goes on pastoral visits as they did late Bishop Chikwe with the song LEE NNUKWU UKOCHUKWU ONYE N‘EME IHE N‘ASO CHINEKE K‘ONA ABIA? This are the things the Vatican should look into. |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by kutchs: 3:36pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
adconline: |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by adconline(m): 4:25pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
kutchs: I meant to say Onitsha Eccl province in Anambra state with 3 dioceses while Owerri Eccl province in Imo state with 4 dioceses even though Anambra has more Catholic faithful than Imo. So it could be deduced that Arinze has helped Imo faithfuls more than Anambra faithfuls. As a matter of fact, Old-Aguata and some parts of Aniocha that could make up the proposed Aguata/Ekwulobia Diocese have more Catholics than Ahiara diocese |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by kutchs: 5:58pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
adconline:Nobody is talking about number here nwanne and whether Cardinal Arinze has helped Imo faithful or not even though thats what he is supposed to as the highest ranking Catholic official from Nigeria. What am talking about which you chose to neglect is the character issue and ofcourse the desperation of the CBCN, the Pro Nuncio and other interests to force him on the people against their wish. I personally have nothing against Bishop Okpaleke as my bishop, what am against rather is his insensitivity to the feelings of his supposed subjects. |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by kutchs: 5:58pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
adconline: |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by Nobody: 6:38pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
kutchs: The CCC does not provide a basis for the people to choose or reject their bishop.That fxn is vested on the pope through the pro nuncio.This is not a democratic arrangement. Besides predicating on indigenship or tribalism as the basis for choosing or rejecting a bishop is not in line with true catholic or general christian principles as recommended by the holy bible and has the potential to destroy the church. |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by Nobody: 6:41pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
kutchs: The CCC does not provide a basis for the people to choose or reject their bishop.That fxn is vested on the pope through the pro nuncio.This is not a democratic arrangement. Besides predicating on indigenship or tribalism as the basis for choosing or rejecting a bishop is not in line with true catholic or general christian principles as recommended by the holy bible and has the potential to destroy the church. Saying a non-indigene cannot be bishop in a locality is unchristian and really detestable!! The catholic church can never be reduced to such odditties!! King Henry viii tried blackmailing the church and failed woefully!! The global church can never succumb to the throes of racism or tribalism!! Never !! It will never happen in the RCC!! The catholic church will rather close down its ahiara diocese than let it happen!! 1 Like |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by adconline(m): 6:55pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
kutchs: If we are not talking about numbers, how is it that vicious minority is holding silent majority to ransom? |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by rapins: 7:01pm On Jun 18, 2013 |
Now I am beginning to appreciate the saying that when you see a snake and an Mbaise person, you first kill the Mbaise person before the snake. All these Mbaise pagans that are parading themselves as Catholic, why do you always show people how wicked you are? The earlier you begin to accept and work with your Bishop the better for you. Rome has given you a Bishop and nothing can stop that. Mbaise people are every where in other Dioceses, has anyone sent any of them away? |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by bandb: 10:40am On Jun 30, 2013 |
rapins: Now I am beginning to appreciate the saying that when you see a snake and an Mbaise person, you first kill the Mbaise person before the snake. Is this all your wapped brain can afford? |
Re: Mbaise Unit Against Religiouse Deceit, Injustice And Domination by sethken: 8:16pm On Jan 02, 2014 |
kutchs: How is Okpaleke being insensitive. He will be pulling a Jonah if he refuses to answer the call. I believe the bishopric is the fullness of the priesthood. If he is able and capable. He acted accordingly by answering the call. You don't only answer a call when all is well and peaceful. You also answer a call in the face of adversity, danger and uncertainty. The martyrs of old did the same. Unless you have lost your faith or sense of what it means to be a catholic, it is paramount that one answers a call when they are called by God. I don't see the present Pope rescinding this appointment. I foresee Ahiara's suppression as a diocese if the stalemate continues. |
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