The dimension that the wahala in Rivers state is taking is an embarrassment to every democratic clime. It has gotten to the extent that peoples lives are now in danger because they belong to one part of the divide. I was chocked beyong relief when i saw the man in the video hitting someone with a staff as hard as he was hitting and i asked myself, "is this stuff that serious?". I want to know how this rift between Chibuike Amaechi and president Jonathan started and what caused it. I heard it was because Amaechi had the political ambition to become a vice-president. I wonder how true that is and if true, what is wrong in someone aspiring to an office? Pls i'll appreciate it if those who are familiar with the isssues lay it bare here so that we can understand the idiosyncrasy of what transpired and come up with a solution.

A lot of issues are involved but its more like jealousy because Amaechi is more popular than the President.

Let us use the news media to analyze.

1) http://nigerianbulletin.com/news-headlines/first-lady-scolds-governor-in-public-the-nation/

2) http://sundaytrust.com.ng/index.php/news/10664-minimum-wage-jonathan-governors-on-collision-course

These were the 1st two incidents.

Abagworo: A lot of issues are involved but its more like jealousy because Amaechi is more popular than the President.

Let us use the news media to analyze.

1) http://nigerianbulletin.com/news-headlines/first-lady-scolds-governor-in-public-the-nation/

2) http://sundaytrust.com.ng/index.php/news/10664-minimum-wage-jonathan-governors-on-collision-course

These were the 1st two incidents.

I remember the when Amaechi was scolded by Patience because he wanted to demolish Okrika water side and i remember Jonathan called his wife to order. He handled that incident very well and that increased the relationship between Amaechi and Jonathan. I doubt if that was the major cause of the rift though it may have contributed.

Afam4eva: I heard it was because Amaechi had the political ambition to become a vice-president. I wonder how true that is and if true, what is wrong in someone aspiring to an office?.

Yes, and the coward is afraid, hence he unleashed the federal might on him

Rhino.5dm:


Yes, and the coward is afraid, hence he unleashed the federal might on him

You people will never stop with your despicable propaganda! How di GEJ unleash the federal might on Amaechi? Do you even know the meaning of the words you are typing? Pleas can you state one example of how he unleashed the federal might on Amaechi or forever hold your peace?

Abagworo: http://www.onlinegist.com/2012/08/obasanjo-finally-dumps-jonathan-backs.html?m=1

http://leadership.ng/nga/articles/32942/2012/08/20/obasanjo_backs_lamidoamaechi_ticket_2015.html

http://thenigerianoracle.com/2012/08/23/ive-not-anointed-lamido-amaechi-for-2015-obasanjo/

So where is all those your articles did GEJ say a word or made a single reaction? I really love this thread. Lets get it on!!!

thelastPope:

So where is all those your articles did GEJ say a word or made a single reaction? I really love this thread. Lets get it on!!!

Dude what is your day job if I may ask? because i really don't understand how a man with a day job and commitments could have so much time and energy to devote to defending the govt at all costs, surely there must be more to it than meet the eye

funnyx:

Dude what is your day job if I may ask? because i really don't understand how a man with a day job and commitments could have so much time and energy to devote to defending the govt at all costs, surely there must be more to it than meet the eye

And I know your day job is to come online and spread useless propaganda and lies. Get a life bro!

Abagworo: A lot of issues are involved but its more like jealousy because Amaechi is more popular than the President.

Let us use the news media to analyze.

1) http://nigerianbulletin.com/news-headlines/first-lady-scolds-governor-in-public-the-nation/

2) http://sundaytrust.com.ng/index.php/news/10664-minimum-wage-jonathan-governors-on-collision-course

These were the 1st two incidents.

How old are you ?

@OP. There is no direct animosity between GEJ and Amaechi. Amaechi picked a wrong fight with the wrong people, unfortunately for him, those guys are closer to the president than he is. Simply put, Amaechi is a man who doesn't know where the rain caught up with him and definitely wouldn't know where it stops raining on him. The man just overestimated his powers and that of those beating the drums for him. Let he who has ears listen.

funnyx:

Dude what is your day job if I may ask? because i really don't understand how a man with a day job and commitments could have so much time and energy to devote to defending the govt at all costs, surely there must be more to it than meet the eye

If I descend on you, you won't like yourself. What is your day job that allows you to come on here spewing lies and folly?

Waiting for a coherent and sensible response.

Some wuld say he disrespected Jonathan. Yet cant state how he did

dazey:

How old are you ?

You can imagine the nonsense the kid posted. SMH!

dayokanu: Waiting for a coherent and sensible response.

Some wuld say he disrespected Jonathan. Yet cant state how he did

Response from who? Have you ever heard a word from GEJ?

Isn't it Amaechi and his camp that are accusing GEJ? They are the ones who should explain to US.

dayokanu: Waiting for a coherent and sensible response.

Some wuld say he disrespected Jonathan. Yet cant state how he did

I am as baffled as you are!

take dat: I am as baffled as you are!

Baffled at what exactly? That question should be thrown at Amaechi because GEJ has never involved himself in the banter, Not once?

And also thrown at all of you who take turns to insult a man about an issue he has never made a comment about. Not once!

thelastpope0:

If I descend on you, you won't like yourself. What is your day job that allows you to come on here spewing lies and folly?

Just a simple question and you're hyperventilating did I hit a nerve? I hereby challenge you to show me any of my posts or thread that contain lies otherwise you're nothing but a clown.

slimghost:

And I know your day job is to come online and spread useless propaganda and lies. Get a life bro!

Get a life mofo, my post was not addressed to you.

funnyx:

Just a simple question and you're hyperventilating did I hit a nerve? I hereby challenge you to show me any of my posts or thread that contain lies otherwise you're nothing but a clown.

You? Challenge me? Too much paraga and Alomo dey worry you this night...shift joor!...

thelastpope0:

You? Challenge me? Too much paraga and Alamo day worry you this night...shift poor!...

You've exposed yourself as a liar otherwise provide proofs of the lies I regularly spew, if you fail to provide this then you're nothing but a shameless liar.

funnyx:

You've exposed yourself as a liar otherwise provide proofs of the lies I regularly spew, if you fail to provide this then you're nothing but a shameless liar.

Go and read your book joor. This thread is for serious political debate. Please join the tonto dike thread elsewhere. you will not succeed in derailing the thread, sorry. Ciao!

thelastPope:

Go and read your book joor. This thread is for serious political debate. Please join the tonto dike thread elsewhere. Ciao!

You've ran out of ideas mate next time look before you leap, you picked on the wrong person me on tonto dike thread? Tufiakwa just keep defending your meal ticket.

thelastpope0:

Baffled at what exactly? That question should be thrown at Amaechi because GEJ has never involved himself in the banter, Not once?

"Why does the president percieve Amaechi to be a
stumbling block ahead of 2015?

Okupe- "Governor Amaechi cannot be a stumbling block to Mr President's aspiration."



So why is he moving against him?

Okupe- "He is not moving against him. There are two things. If I want to achieve an objective and in achieving that objective, it will affect you, my primary purpose is not that it will affect you, my primary purpose is to achieve the set goal that is before me. SO IF THERE ARE COLLATERAL DAMAGES, THERE ARE COLLATERAL DAMAGES."

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/04/jonathan-is-playing-politics-with-amaechi-okupe/

Kindly explain to us the objective the president wants to achieve? And how Amaechi has became an impediment to achieving the set goal? Should we assume the recent happenings in Rivers are Collateral Damages?

Nigeria is sitting on a very big jeg of gunpowder and dynamite and if care is not taken, the crisis that will emerge, the magnitude will be uncontrollable.

The main issue here is that there is a serious covert war have been going on for some time now btw the presidency and the opposition hawks coalition of northern oligarchy and the goverment in control of swest, Amechi just being the pawn in the chess game. The situation building up is a very dangerous trend and may lead to the fulfillment of US prediction concerning Nigeria not being in existence by 2015, and the catch in the whole issue now is that those guys in the Niger delta are so rich now( the northern oligarchs riches cannot match them now, moneywise) , they have access to sophisticated weapons that they can ddecide to opt out of Nigeria. The dilenma now is that military coup cannot be possible in Nigeria now because if any coup takes place, it is over for Nigeria. This leaves us to the mercy of the politicians, that have looted this country mercilessly in this democratic era, and the painful thing is that majority of these guys are unrepentant thugs, they are not gentlemen and this has been because of the way our politics has been, with politicians entitled to so much wealth. For example the likes of Amechi, Akpabio, Uduaghan, Tinubu, GEJ, and their croonies have accesss to economic resources worth trillions, when these men can control this kind of reources, they will do the undoable to make sure the status quo doesnt change.

Mind you they do not have the interest of the masses at heart, no it is only there interest but they may just drop some little crumbs for the masses and name it 'democracy dividend', in the end
the masses keep on suffering.

This issue is the situation in most sub-saharan African countries. With the exception of mandela, past botswana president and maybe Ghana in the past decade, black Africa has lacked visionary, compassionate leaders that their heartbeat passion will be to see their countries citizens live a decent life, leaders like mao of china, lee kuan yew of singapore, mahati of malaysia, the leaders of korea, japan, taiwan, brazil etc. These were countries that were backward and poor compared to the west in the last two decades but today have emerged as global economic powers. Although I will say onnly Fashola is close to those kind of leaders I mentioned he is a gentleman but surrounnded by wolves.

I seriously weep for the blackman because we have been so blessed by God but instead have wasted, mismanaged the blessings that God gave us like the prodigal son. I rest my case.

Pls Let stop abusing ourself,and let us reach d truth of d matter,let me add to d truth given b4,which are soku oil well,NGF case of sw fund,excess crude acc,Nyako vs tukur,then finally,d rumour of amaechi as v.p to north.

Here are the latest reasons things have gotten worse. After this meeting with Jonathan by Anti-Amaechi politicians, 5 days later - Rivers State is becoming a war zone. All hail the silent Militant.

[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1186090_PIC_3a_PDP_RIVERS_jpgf09cbae81a60753cd849324f6b0089fb[/img]

[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1186092_PIC_6_c_PDP_RIVERS_jpgd91c727a00f840a1d10e8ec962f499d7[/img]

take dat:

"Why does the president percieve Amaechi to be a
stumbling block ahead of 2015?

Okupe- "Governor Amaechi cannot be a stumbling block to Mr President's aspiration."



So why is he moving against him?

Okupe- "He is not moving against him. There are two things. If I want to achieve an objective and in achieving that objective, it will affect you, my primary purpose is not that it will affect you, my primary purpose is to achieve the set goal that is before me. SO IF THERE ARE COLLATERAL DAMAGES, THERE ARE COLLATERAL DAMAGES."

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/04/jonathan-is-playing-politics-with-amaechi-okupe/

Kindly explain to us the objective the president wants to achieve? And how Amaechi has became an impediment to achieving the set goal? Should we assume the recent happenings in Rivers are Collateral Damages?

It bothers me that you cannot find a clear proof that GEJ is after Amaechi but have to try and squeeze out something from "in between the lines" of an okupe interview to push your point. Your extractions prove nothing.

Mylove55: Pls Let stop abusing ourself,and let us reach d truth of d matter,let me add to d truth given b4,which are soku oil well,NGF case of sw fund,excess crude acc,Nyako vs tukur,then finally,d rumour of amaechi as v.p to north.

Ok, let me for the purpose of debate, indulge you guys. You mentioned

1. Soku oil well: How did that make GEJ to go after Amaechi? Infact, GEJ stepped in and made peace amongst all the parties and Bayelsa had to make peace with Rivers

2. NGF: How is that a personal issue between GEJ and Amaechi? Are you saying that PDP as a party should not be interested in who emerges as the leader and how that person's position affects their party's progress nationally? How daft will they be if they didnt get involed? Very daft, I think. Are you saying that if ACN was the party at the center, they wouldnt be interested in who emerges as the NGF chairman? Common governorship and chairmanship candidates are settled in Bourdillon not to talk of NGF chairman. Any sane party would always be interested in all the politically positions and their representation there. Which political party will want an NGF chairman who will not be loyal to their party? And since they have the majority, why will they not want to influence it? funny assertions from some of you.

3. Excess crude account, SWF: Is rivers state not a major beneficiary of those funds with massive projects like the east west road going on? How can that cause GEJ to go after Amaechi? Most of you have forgotten that it was these same NGF that opposed the increase in minimum wage when the FG raised it to N 18, 000. It was the follow up meetings and logjams that led to the proposal to remove subsidy, a proposal which was muted and championed by the governors themselves until the actual removal when all of them except Oshiomole, chickened out and put all the burden on GEJ. Including all the opposition governors who hypocritically pretended like they were against it! How is that the "reason" GEJ is after Amaechi?

4. Amaechi as VP: This one is funny because if this is the case, then it is Amaechi that is the aggressor not GEJ. This is 2013, 2 years from 2015. So why will Amaechi be campaigning for VP to anyone in 2013. Even if he has that ambition, as a governor seeking to fufill his promise to his people and as the NGF chairman who should also protect his party's interest in the NGF, because he emerged the chairman because of his party majority, why will he be campaigning in 2013 for the 2015 election? How is that in the interest of his party. can he not do his underground work and prepare ill when the real politics starts? And to think that he was seen, according to some of the reports out there, having meetings with opposition people, how should his party react? Keep silent and watch? Would ACN or APC do that as a party? Will they watch a Fashola or Fayemi frolicking with Akpabio and Chime and Kwakwanso and be relaxed and not ask questions or take action if necessary?

I am really struggling here to see how you guys got this GEJ is after Amaechi story in the first place. The only aggressor from day one has been Amaechi, not GEJ. Still waiting

thelastPope:

It bothers me that you cannot find a clear proof that GEJ is after Amaechi but have to try and squeeze out something from "in between the lines" of an okupe interview to push your point. Your extractions prove nothing.

A trivial way to respond, and a response lacking in substance. Is Okupe no longer a media aide to the president? The reply he gave when asked the same question suggests that the president has an agenda, and that he is ready to quash and crush anyone that proves a stumbling block? While trying to demonstrate your arrogance and know-all attitude, clarify what Okupe meant by "achieving set goals and collateral damages".

take dat: A trivial way to respond, and a response lacking in substance. Is Okupe no longer a media aide to the president? The reply he gave when asked the same question suggests that the president has an agenda, and that he is ready to quash and crush anyone that proves a stumbling block? While trying to demonstrate your arrogance and know-all attitude, clarify what Okupe meant by "achieving set goals and collateral damages".

What you have said is what is called beautiful nonsense! A bogus claim at best. Dangerous, biased and open ended assertions at worst! every human being has an agenda, including you posting on this thread. It isnt in your forte to read minds and extract their agendas except you are a mutant! Please stay on facts, not conjectures, rumours and insinuations! Thank you!

Do you all now believe what Henry Oka said that Jonathan organized the October 1 bombing to blackmail the North?