classicEntity: Igbos usually lack 100% unity anywhere they are, but are still kinda united thou, Rivers Igbos are regarded as a confused set of people starting from Ndoni, Ogba to Ikwerres, except Etche, Egbema and Obigbo (Asa/Ndoki). But WHY haven't the Rivers state Igbos unite for a better Identity just like the ANIOMA have done. Who can speak for them here on Nairaland.....

Abagworo:

Only Egbema and Oyigbo are the Igbos in Rivers State.

oturugo:
Add Omuma and probably Etche to it.
But on a serious note, Ikwerre, Ogba, Ndoni and Ekpeye are Igbos no matter how hard some of they fight to disclaim Igbo.

Abagworo:

There's a difference between igbo and Igbo. When we say Igbo bu Igbo mma mma nu! It is meant for any Igbo that accepts being Igbo. If you scroll up and down this culture section you'll notice how active I've been in the Delta Igbo and Aboh thread. My interest there is in correcting some wrong notions and falsehood and not forcefully making them to come into the Igbo fold. The civil war has redefined Igbo for our good and this Igbo only includes Aniocha and Oshimili in Delta, the entire Southeast and Oyigbo plus Egbema in Rivers. The rest of the "Igbos" in Rivers and Delta are having inferiority complex and identity crisis and hence are not "Igbo bu Igbo". They are fighting to attain minority status and recognition and that is why they open threads to disclaim any affiliation with Igbo.

My mother is from Ikwerre in Rivers and Ikwerre is the largest ethnic group. They don't really need Etche and Ndoni etc to survive. Ndoni and Ogba are blessed with abundant petroleum resources and hence do not need anyone to share it with while Etche holds the title of the most sidelined. They speak purest Igbo and hence have a more difficult task to convince others to accept them as fellow minority.

Ekpeye people are not Igbos. The language they speak is not mutually intelligible with Igbo language even though many words are shared. They can be called cousin or brother but are clearly distinct.

INNO18: you forgot to add Asaba

Abagworo:

There's a difference between igbo and Igbo. When we say Igbo bu Igbo mma mma nu! It is meant for any Igbo that accepts being Igbo. If you scroll up and down this culture section you'll notice how active I've been in the Delta Igbo and Aboh thread. My interest there is in correcting some wrong notions and falsehood and not forcefully making them to come into the Igbo fold. The civil war has redefined Igbo for our good and this Igbo only includes Aniocha and Oshimili in Delta, the entire Southeast and Oyigbo plus Egbema in Rivers. The rest of the "Igbos" in Rivers and Delta are having inferiority complex and identity crisis and hence are not "Igbo bu Igbo". They are fighting to attain minority status and recognition and that is why they open threads to disclaim any affiliation with Igbo.

My mother is from Ikwerre in Rivers and Ikwerre is the largest ethnic group. They don't really need Etche and Ndoni etc to survive. Ndoni and Ogba are blessed with abundant petroleum resources and hence do not need anyone to share it with while Etche holds the title of the most sidelined. They speak purest Igbo and hence have a more difficult task to convince others to accept them as fellow minority.

Ekpeye people are not Igbos. The language they speak is not mutually intelligible with Igbo language even though many words are shared. They can be called cousin or brother but are clearly distinct.

Spiff20: D igbo's wana form familiarity with us cos of our rich oil wells abi? Una go thief! We broke awt frm d igbo's afta d civil war so we ar no longa in ya f**king tribe. Beta b satisfied wit ur 5 states nd leave us alone cos we'll neva accept dat illusion not nw, nt in future either.

Spiff20: D igbo's wana form familiarity with us cos of our rich oil wells abi? Una go thief! We broke awt frm d igbo's afta d civil war so we ar no longa in ya f**king tribe. Beta b satisfied wit ur 5 states nd leave us alone cos we'll neva accept dat illusion not nw, nt in future either.

oturugo:
Pig. this is not about the entire Rivers state but about the Igbo part of Rivers state. Why do you fools hate hearing about the Igbo in Rivers state. Get a life piggy.

1 shortblackboy: who has inferior complex? the people who know who they are and stand by it or the igbos who keep opening these silly threads on nairaland every other day to force ibo identity down peoples throats. dem say dem no be ibo na by force ?

Abagworo:
. The civil war has redefined Igbo for our good and this Igbo only includes Aniocha and Oshimili in Delta, the entire Southeast and Oyigbo plus Egbema in Rivers. [b]The rest of the "Igbos" in Rivers and Delta are having inferiority complex [/b]and identity crisis and hence are not "Igbo bu Igbo". They are fighting to attain minority status and recognition and that is why they open threads to disclaim any affiliation with Igbo.

1 shortblackboy:
wat did u mean by this

1 shortblackboy: I live among these people and I think ur theory is far fetched I've not noticed these people being exceptionally mean to the ibos to prove anything

Spiff20: wateva, but we ar nt igbo's nd dat's finally. Abt gettin a life i tink u shud do dat:get a life nd stop poking ur nose wia u shudn't. Dickhead!!!

Abagworo:

I'm half Ikwerre and I've had encounters. Even here on Nairaland you will notice threads trying to prove to other people that they are not Igbos but you won't see Ogoni, Okrika or Urhobo doing that. Its because Ogoni, Okrika and Urhobo are obviously not Igbo and hence have nothing to prove.

1 shortblackboy: wat I see on nairaland are threads trying to label other groups as ibo and not groups tryin to prove they're not ibo ... Ps Where do u live its not about being half ikwerre

classicEntity: Igbos usually lack 100% unity anywhere they are, but are still kinda united thou, Rivers Igbos are regarded as a confused set of people starting from Ndoni, Ogba to Ikwerres, except Etche, Egbema and Obigbo (Asa/Ndoki). But WHY haven't the Rivers state Igbos unite for a better Identity just like the ANIOMA have done. Who can speak for them here on Nairaland.....

oturugo:
Monkey, its Igbo and not Ibo.
There are no threads labelling Efik, ibibio, annang, ogoni, isoko, ejagbam etc as Igbo. The groups they refer as Igbo are righthly Igbo especially in northern Rivers state.
I hope this settles in your empty skull, idiott.

1 shortblackboy: wat I see on nairaland are threads trying to label other groups as ibo and not groups tryin to prove they're not ibo ... Ps Where do u live its not about being half ikwerre

Abagworo:

What I mean is that you can only be Igbo when you accept being one. Ikwerres, Ogbas and Etches don't accept being Igbo but the language betrays them and is a deep cause for concern and makes their claim of being minority suspicious to the real minorities. This leaves them in a complex situation and could make them cruel to Southeasterners in order to prove to the other minorities that they are not part of these people.

Its like in the USA where there are fewer Eastern Europeans and they will try to claim minority even when Blacks and Hispanics clearly know that they are White. They will need extra efforts and even aggression to prove to Blacks and Hispanics that they are not Westerners but just happened to be White. Lol!

Now read this and understand how the real minorities feel about these non-Igbo but Igbo groups


http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/essays/politics/SagayOnDeltaCapital.html



August 1991 when Babangida used the Delta State Capital to pay his bride price to his Anioma in-laws. When I was invited to Asaba in May 1999 to give the hand over lecture from Military dictatorship to Civilian democratic government, and was asked by the out-going Military Administrator, Commander Feghabo, what I thought of the fact that only the southern Delta, particularly the Urhobos have so far produced civilian Governors for Delta State, my reply was simple. 'Delta State' is constituted by two States, Delta proper and Anioma. As long as the Delta Capital remains in Anioma,the Governors will come from the real Delta. Inspite of castigations in the press, by the Asagba of Asaba, and some other Anioma elites, I have remained firm in my views. The best solution is for the two entities to separate into two states with the Delta State Capital being at Warri. Anioma can then be a state with its capital at Asaba. Alternatively, Anioma can join Anambra State and become a member of the South Eastern group of states to which it truly belongs.

oturugo:
Monkey, its Igbo and not Ibo.
There are no threads labelling Efik, ibibio, annang, ogoni, isoko, ejagbam etc as Igbo. The groups they refer as Igbo are righthly Igbo especially in northern Rivers state.
I hope this settles in your empty skull, idiott.

oturugo:

How about the proud Igbo amongst them e.g the Nwuches, The Ella's, the Obi Wali's etc. Should we now say those from Ndoni, Ogba, Ikwerre and Ekpeye are not Igbo?.
Take it from me, those who deny Igbo are the most vocal. Those who are proud Igbo are not interested in proving to people that they are Igbo. Having said that, I agree with you about the identity crisis in those places apart from Oshimiri/Aniocha, Obigbo and Egbema axis. I believe that Omuma people are proud Igbo.