Chomzy19: wldnt hv ordinarily been my biz if u hd actually brought up riznable points

better to be caged in my liberated view abt d universe than liberated in my caged myopic view abt it. Still waiting for u to bring up a riznable point to counter d argument u Lmao'd at, u hv effectively diverted to anoda lane

You argue like a FOOL. Kindly, point out the argument that I refused to counter. For one that mentally enslave themselves and see it as been liberated says a lot about your person.

Uyi Iredia:

You are looking at it from a different and constructed view were I either believe the Bible or not ? In that case, I don't share all Christian beliefs as regards the Bible or God BUT I think God certainly exists and I differ in that from atheists.

Okay I see.. So you gain enlightenment through the bible but you don't share in the overall message. Nothing spoil. As a deist I embrace my realities Within the universe and the elements that sustains my existence. Basically, The universe is God.

GooseBaba:

You argue like a FOOL. Kindly, point out the argument that I refused to counter. For one that mentally enslave themselves and see it as been liberated says a lot about your person.

u re d one who hv mentally enslaved urself wit d ur myopic views abt d universe, finite n infinite components thereof, i might argue ly a fool as u say, but u sir re INFACT A FOOL who is nt evn aware of his folly.... Dia4 irredemable

as for d argument, u n every oda person hu is followin dis thread knows it, but dont bother if u actually hd any riznable counter u'd hv made it instead of 'lmao u even accept ur foolishness compact capacity or is it capacity compact for foolishness' heheheheh... Sorry i'm nt sounding straight d joy of d lord hs intoxicated me lyk liqour

Chomzy19: u re d one who hv mentally enslaved urself wit d ur myopic views abt d universe, finite n infinite components thereof, i might argue ly a fool as u say, but u sir re INFACT A FOOL who is nt evn aware of his folly.... Dia4 irredemable

as for d argument, u n every oda person hu is followin dis thread knows it, but dont bother if u actually hd any riznable counter u'd hv made it instead of 'lmao u even accept ur foolishness compact capacity or is it capacity compact for foolishness' heheheheh... Sorry i'm nt sounding straight d joy of d lord hs intoxicated me lyk liqour

Long story... Point out that which I refused to counter or choke on your Lords CO..CK while under the influence of cheap liquor.

GooseBaba:

Okay I see.. So you gain enlightenment through the bible but you don't share in the overall message. Nothing spoil. As a deist I embrace my realities Within the universe and the elements that sustains my existence. Basically, The universe is God.

That's not deism but pantheism, or as Richard called it, 'sexed-up' atheism.

GooseBaba:

Okay I see.. So you gain enlightenment through the bible but you don't share in the overall message. Nothing spoil. As a deist I embrace my realities Within the universe and the elements that sustains my existence. Basically, The universe is God.

That's not deism but pantheism, or as Richard called it, 'sexed-up atheism'.

GooseBaba:

Long story... Point out that which I refused to counter or choke on your Lords CO..CK while under the influence of cheap liquor.

i plan on doing just that.... In d mean tym ARSENAL WON YAY!!!

Uyi Iredia:

That's not deism but pantheism, or as Richard called it, 'sexed-up atheism'.

That's a bit silly.."sexed up atheism" whoever uses that to make a point against someone that believes in God is mentally deranged.

You are not a deist because the Critical elements of deist thought included:

Rejection of all religions based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.
Rejection of all religious dogma and demagogy.
Rejection of reports of miracles or prophecies.

Just accept it you are nothing but a closet Christain and stop deluding yourself.

Pastor Olu T:
A good place to start, where did u come from (I mean ur existence)?

Pray tell,where did I come from? And please don't give me that 'God created you' clichė. I believe you can do better than that

cold:
Pray tell,where did I come from? And please don't give me that 'God created you' clichė. I believe you can do better than that

I see. So what is better than that. The patent lie that matter with no compulsion whatsoever became self-replicators which thanks to mutation and (supposedly non-random) ns transited from proto-cells to life and then diversified.

Thanks atheists and deists for derailing a thread on the Christian God whose ardent worshipper I am!
One of you predicted that a generation will come up that will abandon religion and face reality.

I am not a very wise person as you can see, but I don't see that happening. There will always be a remnant. I daresay that atheism is a complete religion with its ungodly literature(a lame imitation of the eternal Holy Bible), prophets and evangelists like this hardworking crew on NL.
Now listen to the following facts:
1.You're not the first neither will you be the last to argue that there is no god.My Bible has a name for you lot: FOOLS!
2. Scientific humanism and all such fancy theories sound well and good when life is rosy and all is well. But when experience happens, men look for succour to a higher being. If you are lucky, you may be among the other previous fools who discovered God before dying. Many atheists have found Christ
3. You need proof of God? What proof? Tangible? Do you have tangible proof of love? Does it make the emotion less real?
4. Who said prayers don't work? Poor soul! You're losing out on the greatest power in this universe!


@topic: God is loving, too loving to be indulgent!
God is fair! He postpones judging these atheists until they drop dead

GooseBaba:

That's a bit silly.."sexed up atheism" whoever uses that to make a point against someone that believes in God is mentally deranged.

You are not a deist because the Critical elements of deist thought included:

Rejection of all religions based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.
Rejection of all religious dogma and demagogy.
Rejection of reports of miracles or prophecies

To a a good extent I reject all you mention so am deist. You OTOH say the universe is God and it is a fact deists say God is different from the universe and atheists have no probs saying the universe is God though some think it unnecessary, FOLYKAZE is such an atheist.

salt 1: Thanks atheists and deists for derailing a thread on the Christian God whose ardent worshipper I am!
One of you predicted that a generation will come up that will abandon religion and face reality.

I am not a very wise person as you can see, but I don't see that happening. There will always be a remnant. I daresay that atheism is a complete religion with its ungodly literature(a lame imitation of the eternal Holy Bible), prophets and evangelists like this hardworking crew on NL.
Now listen to the following facts:
1.You're not the first neither will you be the last to argue that there is no god.My Bible has a name for you lot: FOOLS!
2. Scientific humanism and all such fancy theories sound well and good when life is rosy and all is well. But when experience happens, men look for succour to a higher being. If you are lucky, you may be among the other previous fools who discovered God before dying. Many atheists have found Christ
3. You need proof of God? What proof? Tangible? Do you have tangible proof of love? Does it make the emotion less real?
4. Who said prayers don't work? Poor soul! You're losing out on the greatest power in this universe!


@topic: God is loving, too loving to be indulgent!
God is fair! He postpones judging these atheists until they drop dead

No vex bros ! Though I must note that Chhristians interfere or view atheist threads.

Uyi Iredia:

To a a good extent I reject all you mention so am deist. You OTOH say the universe is God and it is a fact deists say God is different from the universe and atheists have no probs saying the universe is God though some think it unnecessary, FOLYKAZE is such an atheist.

Keep deluding you self. You refer to the book for guidance and enlightenment but claim you are something else... Stop this child's play and embrace who you are. A Christian..

Uyi Iredia:

No vex bros ! Though I must note that Chhristians interfere or view atheist threads.

No mind the caged fowl.

GooseBaba:

Keep deluding you self. You refer to the book for guidance and enlightenment but claim you are something else... Stop this child's play and embrace who you are. A Christian..

I happen to have it in mind to reappraise it to see if a rededication is possible but I think it quite unlikely, I'm far gone into deism: for example, the idea you need to believe Jesus to know God makes no sense to me as before, as far as I'm concerned, any living human of pre-requisite intellect have, can, and do know God without reference to the supposed Messiah.

Uyi Iredia:

Yes. As a deist, I do believe in the Biblical God in certain respects

then I'll prefer to call you a 'moderate/mixed/renegade deist'. Going by the stony fact that the founding proponents of deism(like Edward Herbert, Charles Blount, Thomas Chubb...et al.) furily and fervidly opposed the then prevailing orthodoxy, with an unsparing critical particularity on Christianity(foremost) and the Jewish traditions.

Lord Babs: then I'll prefer to call you a 'moderate/mixed/renegade deist'. Going by the stony fact that the founding proponents of deism(like Edward Herbert, Charles Blount, Thomas Chubb...et al.) furily and fervidly opposed the then prevailing orthodoxy, with an unsparing critical particularity on Christianity(foremost) and the Jewish traditions.

Yes, renegade deist and the rest qualifiers are okay IMO.

Is there anything about God that is not interesting?

Uyi Iredia:
I hold God to be omnipresent and omnipotent, eternal and infinite, non-contingent conscious intelligence which willed reality into being as a testament of Himself.

really? So, how can you prove to me that the Space(God) I see around me often is a conscious intelligence?

Chomzy19: eyaaaaa.... Is dt hw u go about fooling urself that u hv a higher IQ than those who believe in God/gods as u call it, yet wit all ur high IQ u hv nt conceived d notion dt there is an infinite being gr8r than finite man (no matter wat any person chooses to call it)

on another note wat hs dis ur high IQ actualy done for planet Earth?

I would bother with a proper response, sadly, if I could decipher what is it you are trying to communicate. Intelligent people make it a habit to write properly and articulately. But then, that's the point. You're religionist and unable to communicate properly. What does that make you? Chances are, your IQ is way bellow the average.

Uyi Iredia:
which

Uyi Iredia: Himself

you meant ITSELF right?

Lord Babs: really? So, how can you prove to me that the Space(God) I see around me often is a conscious intelligence?

The same way scientists prove consciousness is merely the workings of the brain. Do you know how ?

Uyi Iredia: which willed reality into being as a testament of Himself...

to who? (remember you claim it's INFINITE)To what end?(if it meant not interfering afterwards creation)

Uyi Iredia:

The same way scientists prove consciousness is merely the workings of the brain. Do you know how ?

no. I am no scientist. Tell me please.

But the most interesting about God is that he/she/it does not exist...For real...

Lord Babs: you meant ITSELF right?

I don't think God petty to bother over names, if He was, we couldn't cuss His name and would be shut up a la Neo on initially meeting Agent Smith. That said, it usually denotes things with lesser or no intelligence which God isn't. But fair enough, it shows neutrality which humans lack.

Uyi Iredia:

The same way scientists prove consciousness is merely the workings of the brain. Do you know how ?

and btw, that analogy ain't smart one. The brain is an organ of the body. It is substantive. The space is not.

Lord Babs: to who? (remember you claim it's INFINITE)To what end?(if it meant not interfering afterwards creation)

I don't get what you mean by to who ?

As to what end . . .

I don't know. I think I'll be leaving rational inference to speculation at that point but if I would take my pick I'd say for itself as an act of its ability. One fundamental reason why there are human creators of every stripe is because they have the ability.

Lord Babs: and btw, that analogy ain't smart one. The brain is an organ of the body. It is substantive. The space is not.

I see. How then do you believe space exists since there is no evidence to substantiate it ? BTW do you agree that space is immaterial, infinite, eternal and omnipresent ?

Another interesting thing about God is that, He couldn't forgive His own people without sacrificing his 'only son'. Seems to me like He is trying to pacify a bigger 'GOD'......

Lord Babs: no. I am no scientist. Tell me please.

They point to how affectations of specific parts of the brain to one's consciousness and state how such parts mediate for consciousness itself (the Me or ego that disappears during dreamless sleep or coma) or aspects of it eg sight, anger, attention. Likewise, I point basic undeniable aspects of reality and give reasons to infer God from them.