, hence not also having the belief in the possibility of GOD existing.How do you explain the ability in some human beings to move solid physical things with the thought of the mind?
No need to deny this phenomenon because it has been well documented the world over.This is one of those paranormal phenos of which existence scientists and atheists alike can neither deny nor explain.
So,my point and logic is,if some humans are capable of possessing such an unnatural ability,then deifinitely this has to point to a very distinct possibility that there has to be a supernatural being that we know as GOD.One of his/her well documented(in world mythologies) capabilities being the ability to influence the physical world by the power of thought(telekinesis).
Comments.

Huh?Where are the atheists and the rationalists?Are you guys tongue tied?Nferyn et al,wey una?

No need to deny this phenomenon because it has been well documented the world over.

Show me the documents and let's critically examine their authenticity.

Yes Mr Jagun.
Telekinesis is a real phenomenon. I had a seat mate in primary school with such abilities. He was later withdrawn from school because he was branded a whiz[Witch?]. I really felt it because David was a real cool guy. I owe my broad interest in General Science and Paranormal Activity to him.
Unfortuantely I heard [ Though from the Grapevine] that he passed away not long after withdrawal from School { Name With Held]
May HSRIP. I really miss him because he was the best friend I ever had. He was so intelligent. He sparked my curiosity in nature and the supernatural. Imagine at age 7.

Well, for the Doubting Thomases. How do you explain the intersection between here and beyond that results in visits of people from the other dimension.?

I speak from experience & encounters with a lady in Enugu, shortly after my Graduation back then Nijja.
I used to be a Doubting Thomas because I almost lost it in High School at Zaria. Due to , Vain Philosophies Like , Well, Dont Ask me Which & Y.

But I was Jolted back by My Experience and Deliverance in Enugu.

Talk About Demons. I Bet U there is A war On in Spirit, but Never Mind.

Open your Eyes and Mind. Focus on the Positive Side. The VICTORY so to Say.  

Jesus!! I mean Yashua Son Of The Most High. Who Was Is and Is To Come is as Real as the Men U c on a daily basis.

Except that the Body He Carries is A Ressurection Body.

The problem with most mortals like us is that we seek rational explanations for the Supernatural Occurences. Anything that small wrinkled mass we call our brains can't explain, we wish away. Yet we all know how unreliable it is even under the influence of stress or alcohol or even sleep. Please don't be fooled.

We never realize how dull we are until what may may be considerd Brilliant Theory is proved wrong after a thousand years. We have the anals of history littered with such examples. Dont We? Examples? Dont ask me Find Out!

What may be considered Vogue today may be considered Vain tommorow.

Some think its Fancy to deny the Existence of God. And Declare Atheism because they think its Intellectual and Fancy. Fools!!! Blind Fools!!!.
But Dont Worry The'll Soon See. After all How Long Is Death [Life In This Realm]?

I know its difficult to Convince except otherwise Experienced. But again never mind. Time will Tell.
U C, Most people only realize this when they open their eyes at the other end. Look Brothers!! Everyone has a host that awaits to accompany them when they die, but what matters most is where the Tour Guides would emanate from.

Guides from Heaven or Host of  Hell.
Dont worry U are entitled to the max Benefit u Deserve.

This Has Been,  Is And Would Be Real for All.

But Dont Worry, Time Will Tell.

And I bet U  It's Short For Mortals Like Us

Show me the documents and let's critically examine their authenticity.

Not in documents but captured display of telekinesis on televised docus.I saw it myself a few times.Google it yourself,and see what you find.

Jagunlabi, provide a link so we can be sure that we are looking at the same source material. Until then, I will write off your claims as tricks.

And I will write them off as tales. Fake stories come in various shapes and sizes.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA.

Oh boy.

Just reading this is embarrasing.

For the sake of national pride this thread should either be deleted or the name of this forum changed- to something that doesn't betray the nationality of the majority of it's members.

@exu

I share your humour.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah a aha ha h ahah ahah hahaaha haha aha ah ha ha

Make dem no know say we be Naija.

Links as Seun requested.

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Telekinesis.html

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa071601a.htm
Stanislawa Tomczyk. Born in Poland, Tomczyk came to the attention of investigators when it was reported that startling poltergeist-like activity occurred spontaneously around her. She could control some telekinetic feats, but only under hypnosis. In this hypnotic state, Tomczyk took on a personality that called itself "Little Stasia" who could levitate small objects when Tomczyk placed her hands on either side of them. In the early 1900s, one investigator, Julien Ochorowicz, watched these levitations at very close range and observed something like fine threads emanating from her palms and fingers, although they were examined carefully before the experiment. And it didn't seem to be a trick. "When the medium separates her hands," Ochorowicz observed, "the thread gets thinner and disappears; it gives the same sensation as a spider's web. If it is cut with scissors, its continuity is immediately restored." In 1910, Tomczyk was tested by a group of scientists at the Physical Laboratory in Warsaw where she produced remarkable physical phenomena under strict test conditions.

-This site claims that everyone can learn telekinesis
http://www.homestead.com/wintersteel/Telekinesis.html

http://www.angelfire.com/moon/darkchamber/monthsub/msu_tele.htm

http://skepdic.com/kinesis.html

Could it be that it is your ignorance in this theme that is so embarrassing?Try and bring out counter arguements that dismiss telekinesis as illusionary and inexistent.That is after you have edicated yourself on the theme,ofcourse.The links are up there to help you.

exu:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA.

Oh boy.

Just reading this is embarrasing.

For the sake of national pride this thread should either be deleted or the name of this forum changed- to something that doesn't betray the nationality of the majority of it's members.

Seun:

And I will write them off as tales. Fake stories come in various shapes and sizes.

I have seen tapes of old documentaries from reputable sources(unfortunately can't remember again)showing people with this ability,so i will not dismiss it offhand like you're doing.

jagunlabi:

, hence not also having the belief in the possibility of GOD existing.How do you explain the ability in some human beings to move solid physical things with the thought of the mind?

Wait, what does one have to do with the other? People have anecdotally being reported to have the ability to move things with their minds, therefore God? Somethings evidently missing from that equation.

No need to deny this phenomenon because it has been well documented the world over.This is one of those paranormal phenos of which existence scientists and atheists alike can neither deny nor explain.

Actually, it's rather easy, not to deny them, but dismiss them. We still haven't seen any empirical demonstartion of the "ability", so until then, I remain skeptical (not that I'm saying it's impossible, just that anecdotes don't cut it).

By the way, from the Skeptic dictionary linky you were kind and fair enough to post: "Scientists have been investigating PK since the mid-19th century but with little success at demonstrating that anyone can move even a feather without trickery involving something as simple and obvious as blowing on objects to move them".

So,my point and logic is,if some humans are capable of possessing such an unnatural ability,then deifinitely this has to point to a very distinct possibility that there has to be a supernatural being that we know as GOD.One of his/her well documented(in world mythologies) capabilities being the ability to influence the physical world by the power of thought(telekinesis).
Comments.

I fail to see how that applies. It's seems like (once again), Humans with nice ability, therefore God.

Let me locate that something you think is missing from the equation for you.
for you
As creations of God,created in his/her image and likeness,we inherit what is known as the divine spark or substance from the creator.You are free to give it whatever name you want,spirit,soul,whatever.The immortal part of us that lives on.Something that the physical world can neither grasp nor explain.
It is through this divine substance or essence that is buried deep within us that enables some of us - atleast - to be telekinetic.
God's substance - transferred to man during his creation - results in man having parts of God's powers,in this case,TELEKINESIS.
Well,that's the equation.

KAG:

Wait, what does one have to do with the other? People have anecdotally being reported to have the ability to move things with their minds, therefore God? Somethings evidently missing from that equation.

Jagunlabi that really serious oh, i thought u were an atheist? anyway thats besides the point of this tread, i've always believed and still believe.

Jagunlabi is a "theist",and not an atheist.I believe in God,but not in religions.I separate the two.

baby4u2:

Jagunlabi that really serious oh, i thought u were an atheist? anyway thats besides the point of this tread, i've always believed and still believe.

@ Jagunlabi
Interesting. You are a theist, but do not subscribe to religin, so how do you worship that God, or you think He doesn't need to be worshipped?

No,i do not worship,i just talk to him and try to be as good a human being as i can be everyday of my life.I do not need to grovel in front of God to make him/her happy like you muslims do.I do not believe that God need all that daily grovellings to have any relevance in the lives of humans.IMHO.

ajia23:

@ Jagunlabi
Interesting. You are a theist, but do not subscribe to religin, so how do you worship that God, or you think He doesn't need to be worshipped?

jagunlabi:

Let me locate that something you think is missing from the equation for you.
for you
As creations of God,created in his/her image and likeness,we inherit what is known as the divine spark or substance from the creator.You are free to give it whatever name you want,spirit,soul,whatever.The immortal part of us that lives on.Something that the physical world can neither grasp nor explain.
It is through this divine substance or essence that is buried deep within us that enables some of us - atleast - to be telekinetic.
God's substance - transferred to man during his creation - results in man having parts of God's powers,in this case,TELEKINESIS.
Well,that's the equation.

Thanks for that, but suely that's nothing but an unsupported assumption based on more illogical assumptions, no?

If we were to accept that telekinetic abilities do exist (and that's extremely debatable), there's absolutely no reason to believe that it's a result of yet another unseen divine spark. Other hypothetical reasons for the ability would, and do exist.

Funny, anecdotes upon anecdotes are somehow proof for telekinesis. Anyway, why don't all these people take up the Randi Challenge, an easy way to 1 million USD.
Go for it, telekinesis supporters, bring your favorite [i]mindovermattermover [/i]to the challenge and the good life awaits you.

I think it all got explained to me by a practical evangelist back in my secondary school days when touch and follow rings with all sorts of occultic craze was the in-thing for kids my age.

i had read about telekenisis and Uri Geller (destroyer of innocent spoons) and thought i could employ some teleporting as he mentioned in his book to swing my "cheat-sheet" into class during exams (after days of dedicated practice) I went into exam with the most silliest of looks (serious FBI agent looking for aliens), after 30minutes my cheat sheet refused to appear from the nearby location i had hidden it, I wrote the best i could and failed predictably, (I had the sorriest of grades that term).

Over the long holidays, I asked my fellowship pastor if he believed Jesus teleported himself to his disciples after visiting mary, he asked why i'd think a thing like that. I told him of my attempts, after a studied silence he asked me this,

Do you believe in God and that he exists without a doubt -- I said yes.
Dou you believe Satan and his demons exist in our world -- I said yes.

Demons move objects, not your mind, unfortunately, that discussion led me to reading up on Poltergiests and other object-moving spirits. (so much for preaching)

Ignorant, Spirit Blind fools will know the bitter truth when they close their eyes in death. Ignorant people who have no knowledge of the unseen should at least be humble enough to seek or better still beg for the revelation of the deepest secrets of the Divine, they may be lucky to have someone teach them how to go about it.

Oh lost souls when will you come to the realisation that the unseen is real and most of all that Jesus-son of the Almighty is not a figment of Imagination. To assert that, is to consider two thousand years of solid facts, i mean fact based on the colective experiences of millions that have actually gone into the spirit and seen things-- ''of the was'','' the is'' and ''theis to come'' merged as one  in a blissful experience beyond the limits of crass human comprehension, intellect and inadequate vocabulary.

I don't expect the blind, to believe afterall they place too much confidence on the limiting five senses and the organ called the brain. They forget that there's more to existence than the senses can perceive. The human eyes are even yet to recognise or see some basic wavelengths of light nor the ear able to hear all frequencies of sound nor the nose able to smell or types or odour.

Things of the spirit cannot be comprehended by these. We need to free our minds. Some of us have and have been there.

Nonesense you may say, but don't worry dear mortal. Time will tell. The crossing of the thin line is just a heart beat away. 

C U Later.

Christian fundamentalist logic:
Our senses are limited and incapable of perceiving all and everything thus my version of Christianity is true.

Many have died for weeks at a time, came back and remembered nothing. a few nigerians "die" and "come back" and write all kinds'a books on THE SUPERNATURAL, basing most of their stories on personal it-seems-to-me-this-was-what-happened, and yeah I'm right.

Religion is the opium of the poor, no? yes, maybe? Ok u're not poor, so it aint ur opium. may I venture, ur mask?