Maybe the men saw bo.obs and lost their senses. Just like shymmex that can't get over batty. Maybe the women used their batty to sit on shymmex ancestors faces, yeye boy.

stillwater:
How the heck did they declare themselves independent. Do people declare themselves independent just like that. This is not the 60's where there were diplomatic sessions. How on earth did this people declare themselves independent without fighting?

Culled from https://sites.google.com/site/afropedia/kingdom-of-ndongo

Trade rivalry was intense between the other power of the slave coast Oyo and led to clashes. Oyo invaded Dahomey four times, during the 1720s. Dahomey eventually became a tribute paying state under Agaja in 1730 to the alafin of Oyo. The kingdom continued to thrive despite its subordinate position. Under the rule of Gezo(1818-58), Dahomey reached its pinnacle. The kingdom began winning numerous battles; to the point, they cease being a tribute paying state. In 1818, he declared independence from Oyo, and in 1840, he tried to gain Yoruba territory.

Culled from [2] Law, Robin (1986). "Dahomey and the Slave Trade: Reflections on the Historiography of the Rise of Dahomey". The Journal of African History 27 (2): 237–267.

Under Ghezo the empire reached its highpoint with Ghezo defeating the Oyo empire in 1823, ending Dahomey's tributary status, and greatly expanding the slave trade.

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Are these references lying or what?

Where in the article did they assert that Dahomey defeated Oyo? Gaining independence doesn't not mean defeat. Nigeria gained independence from the British Empire after the decline/collapse of the Empire due to the steady decline caused by the 2nd world war - however does it mean that Nigeria defeated the Great Britain? Many eastern bloc countries became independent after the collapse of the Soviet Union, however does it mean they defeated USSR or Russia? The bone of contention here is your assertion that Dahomey "defeated" Oyo, which wasn't the case.

Also, yes, Dahomey did try to gain Yoruba territories, however they were defeated. The Egba vs. Dahomey comes to mind. The Egba's especially the Owu's were war-like and one of the most fearsome Yoruba subgroups. However, that doesn't diminish the greatness of Dahomey, King Ghezo, and the great Dahomey Amazons.


Anyway, Dahomey weren't the first to declare independence from Oyo. Dahomey was just an opportunity. The Egba's were the first to declare independence under Lishabi. Oyo couldn't put the Egba's in check after its cavalry were ineffective against Egba's in Abeokuta - that was when Dahomey started growing some balls. However, as stated in your timeline, the Dahomey declared independence in 1818, a year after Ilorin under Afonja declared independence and Oyo was invaded by Afonja and his Fulani servants. So evidently, Oyo had already collapsed when Dahomey declared independence.

Pay attention to the timeline:

Abiodun’s reign then went on peacefully and lasted from 1774 to 1789, his was a golden reign. However, the center was no longer holding the seams of the Empire together after 20 years of internal imbalance triggered by Ga. Taking advantage of the lawless years, Egba province under the warrior, Lishabi, had proclaimed their independence and migrated towards their present location in Abeokuta.[/b] The Egbas had been aggrieved by the oppression of the resident Ilaris (governors) in their three provinces within the empire and the absence of any authority to hold them in check.

When authority was installed by Abiodun, he sent a punitive expedition against the Egbas, but the rocky hills of Abeokuta made the Oyo cavalry failed woefully in subjecting the Egbas. This triggered a domino effect of provinces declaring their independence from Oyo. Even Dahomey had the effrontery to assault Ketu, a westernmost Yoruba district, without fear of the Oyo imperial army. As far as Ewe (in today’s Togo), Oyo began to wane.
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Afonja’s influence thus began to grow. Afonja tried to become emperor, but some chiefs opposed this. Thus in [size=14pt]1817[/size], he declared Ilorin also independent just as other provinces were also doing. Afonja had a Fulani adviser, Mallam Alimi, and he encouraged dan Fodio jihadists warriors to support Afonja.

Meanwhile, Fulani/Hausas were popularly used in Yorubaland as cheap labors and servants, they were so popular that looking down the nose upon the northerners continued well into post-colonial years in Nigeria. So with the call to arms, Hausa/Fulani laborers in the Oyo underground economy swelled the ranks by fleeing to Ilorin. Ojo, the only surviving son of Ga, along with the Onikoyi of Ikoyi, which was then the largest provincial town of Oyo hence marched against Ilorin.

The Ikoyi’s were the royal battalion of the imperial army and were also known as Ikoyi-Eso (Guards Battalion). When the war began and Hausa/Fulani ex-laborers roamed the country pillaging and selling their former Yoruba aristocratic masters as slaves to white slave buyers (as happened to Ajayi Crowther and his mother who were sold to Portuguese when their village was sacked by the Muslims later in 1821: read earlier post of Eshu and Christian Devil on this blog), Afonja became displeased with this.

And since he was still suspected of being loyal to Yoruba than Islam, Alimi had Afonja killed and his son, Abdul Salami took Ilorin throne as emir giving allegiance to the Sokoto caliphate. Thus Ilorin became a part of the Sokoto caliphate. There was no central authority anymore in Oyo and a lot of the provinces kept breaking away and the disunity did not give a common cause to the Yorubas to fight and retake Ilorin.

Some Yorubas by this time living in Ilorin had also accepted Islam and thus while Ilorin swelled with a platform for its warriors to fight on in one cause, there was no single cause the Yorubas stood for a united fight. The center no longer held and things badly fallen apart. There was no more cavalry for the Oyo army since horses were before bought from northern trade routes which were now closed because of the war against Fulani/Hausa.

The Muslims finally wiped the Oyo capital city after several futile battles on the side of the decimated Yorubas. Oyo’s new capital was now transferred further south to Ago-Oja and a new Alafin, Atiba, was crowned. But by this time, the Alaafin was struggling to maintain a dignity that was lost. [b]Yorubaland became like the Greek city states of Athens, Sparta, Macedonia e.t.c. as Yoruba city states like Owu, Egba, Ijebu, Ondo and Ijesha begun to emerge, with even facial marks emphasizing their differences.

http://takeupanarm./2011/04/22/how-and-what-made-oyo-collapse/

The collapse also led to the Yoruba civil wars that was fought for almost 100 years.

There's a thread about those wars on NL, however everything about it was posted under Kiriji wars.

stillwater: Maybe the men saw bo.obs and lost their senses. Just like shymmex that can't get over batty. Maybe the women used their batty to sit on shymmex ancestors faces, yeye boy.

Lmao.

Anyway, my ancestors were never part of Oyo, we had our own separate Kingdom surrounded by a moat. We were just intermediaries in everything that happened and the only Yoruba subgroup we fought many times were the Egba's. We were the merchants and the rulers of the sea coast!

If you want to sit on my face, you're free to do that as long as it's clean and it smells nice.

shymexx:

Lmao.

Anyway, my ancestors were never part of Oyo, we had our own separate Kingdom surrounded by a moat. We were just intermediaries in everything that happened and the only Yoruba subgroup we fought many times were the Egba's. We were the merchants and the rulers of the sea coast!

If you want to sit on my face, you're free to do that as long as it's clean and it smells nice.

You are talking to your Aunty like this, ok now.

The Egba's were the first to declare independence under Lishabi. Oyo couldn't put the Egba's in check after its cavalry were ineffective against Egba's in Abeokuta - that was when

Doesn't this constitute as a defeat, same way the Dahomey would defeat an ineffective Calvary. The Egbas too can lay claim they defeated Oyo, same way Americans 'defeated' Britain and gained her independence and Britain was forced to sign a peace treaty. My reference alluded to numerous battles that led to their independence from oyo.

True, Dahomey defeated the Oyo empire in a battle, but it didn't conquer it.


Shymex, you post that the Ilorin bouhaha preceeded and inspired Gezo and Dahomey is false. Dahomey revolt occured in 1809 or 1810, whereas, Afonja of Ilorin rebelled in 1817 or 1818. The military conflicts that inspired Dahomey were:
1) Basorun Gaha disposition of 1750s-1770s;
2) Lisabi's Egba independence 1775-1777;
3) Bariba independence 1789;
4) Nupe independence 1793;
5) Oyo's decline.


You also made a wrong statement that Egba used Abeokuta rocky terraine against Oyo. By 1775, there was no Abeokuta. Also, Egba won by feigning deserting their town, then, ambuishing Oyo's forces.

stillwater:
You are talking to your Aunty like this, ok now.

Aunty?!?! Bwahahahaha...you probably think I'm a little kid because I mess around on the internet...smh

Anyway, how old are you?

Doesn't this constitute as a defeat, same way the Dahomey would defeat an ineffective Calvary. The Egbas too can lay claim they defeated Oyo, same way Americans 'defeated' Britain and gained her independence and Britain was forced to sign a peace treaty. My reference alluded to numerous battles that led to their independence from oyo.

How does that constitute as a "defeat" when they never fought any war? Americans actually fought the war for independence and they were supported by the French. That has no correlation whatsoever with this debate. I already cited similar examples, with Nigeria and Great Britain, and also Soviet Union. Dahomey was never part of all those battles - those battles were among the Yoruba's. Yes, Egba's fought for Independence and Afonja (not fulani's) also did - and they fought for almost hundred years. However, Dahomey never fought for anything, they were just victims of circumstance and being at the right place, at the right time, because Oyo was too engulfed in internal fighting to pay attention to Dahomey.

The wars the Dahomey's fought were against the Egba's and they lost.

olumidaie: True, Dahomey defeated the Oyo empire in a battle, but it didn't conquer it.

Shymex, you post that the Ilorin bouhaha preceeded and inspired Gezo and Dahomey is false. Dahomey revolt occured in 1809 or 1810, whereas, Afonja of Ilorin rebelled in 1817 or 1818. The military conflicts that inspired Dahomey were:
1) Basorun Gaha disposition of 1750s-1770s;
2) Lisabi's Egba independence 1775-1777;
3) Bariba independence 1789;
4) Nupe independence 1793;
5) Oyo's decline.


You also made a wrong statement that Egba used Abeokuta rocky terraine against Oyo. By 1775, there was no Abeokuta. Also, Egba won by feigning deserting their town, then, ambuishing Oyo's forces.

Can you post an academic source for the bolded? Your timeline is wrong, the Dahomey gained independence from Oyo in 1818.

Anyway, the crux of the matter is that, the Egba's were the first to gain independence. If it isn't Abeokuta, then it must have been Ibadan because the Egba's were the original owners of Ibadan before they were expelled by the Ijebu's, Ife and remnants of Oyo.

[img]http://tsevanrabtan.files./2010/06/amazonas.jpg[/img]

Dahomey Amazons

I believe this photo was taken after some of the soldiers were taken to France. Other Dahomean women joined Wild West shows in the U.S.

Horus:

[img]http://tsevanrabtan.files./2010/06/amazonas.jpg[/img]

Dahomey Amazons

e gats enta front pahe oh

oya everybodi, LIKE my post to endorse this for FRONT PAGE.

olumidaie: e gats enta front pahe oh

oya everybodi, LIKE my post to endorse this for FRONT PAGE.

You want ladies who beat the Oyo empire to be on the front page of nairaland. Aaaaaay Nigerian men are becoming more chivalrous everyday. I like it.

[img]http://allkindsofhistory.files./2011/09/amazones-dahomey.jpg[/img]

dahomey female warriors.

the truth the Oyo Empire could have been the greatest in africa if those tribe didn't break out......Only Yoruba can defeat Yoruba ....but other tribe ? you have to be damn powerful ......The Oyo are the greatest warriors they fight on Horses.....and yorubas were so powerful back then because they also used voodoo power they don't depends on ordinary weapons

Olawalesmarter:
the truth the Oyo Empire could have been the greatest in africa if those tribe didn't break out......Only Yoruba can defeat Yoruba ....but other tribe ? you have to be damn powerful ......The Oyo are the greatest warriors they fight on Horses.....and yorubas were so powerful back then because they also used voodoo power they don't depends on ordinary weapons

How funny the dahomey warrior fought the mighty oyo you praised and won with just few women tthey had to regroup again before oyo could lay attack after some years...the dahimey femsle took the empire you praise captive as skaves which the britsh continued from ..the fulani did a justice to the so called oyo too ...you should ashamed for your baseless praises

gregyboy:



How funny the dahomey warrior fought the mighty oyo you praised and won with just few women tthey had to regroup again before oyo could lay attack after some years...the dahimey femsle took the empire you praise captive as skaves which the britsh continued from ..the fulani did a justice to the so called oyo too ...you should ashamed for your baseless praises

I still wonder why you are always bitter about Yoruba successes and achievements. Always trying to discredit everything concerning Yoruba with your lies and propaganda. No human fore bearer of any human or alien ancestor extinct or alive can undone what the Yoruba have achieved from time immemorial.

The Dahomey took advantage of the on going rancour and internal disputes as the power of Alaafin was waning due to internal agitation and displeasure and hence subsequent weakening of the central and arrear defense. Many Yoruba Town and villages were formed during this period due to exodus of people form Oyo and it environs. There have never been any defeat to the entire Yoruba by war. Dahomey only secede with minimal restrictions. Normally Alaafin would have pronounce a decree for the head of their King but had to look away because his empire was already on fire due to internal civil war.

Let me tell you a secrete today. Do you know why the Yoruba never lost a war? It is because they normally consult IFA to know if they will win the war or not, just like Kings of Israelite, If they know they will loose a war? they will tactically retract and go for an accord instead. This is one of the main reasons why the Yoruba never fought the British when they came to our shore. IFA did let them know, it was a war, they can never win because of the advance technology of the British. It also told them its a blessing in disguise and hence the full embrace of the British when they came. They did fore-warn their distant cousin, the ruling house of Benin, but they never listened. as you know, they could be very stubborn sometimes and hence the sore defeat of 1898 during the "Punitive Expedition"

Go and learn history properly, old man, no human/alien civilization has ever won the Yoruba in a war. Even most of the Yoruba people that were sold into slavery were done so, by their own Kinsmen (during civil war) and not by outsider. Yoruba are the main culprits of selling their conquered to the Europeans as slaves. So you see, you need to get your fact right before discrediting fact.

The same thing the Benin did by not listening to warnings from their bigger cousin and progenitor (Yoruba) about the British war, the same is what the current generations, of now a days, are doing, as the current generation is trying to dissociate itself from its' source but remember that the river that forget it source will dry"

Ire o...

gregyboy:



How funny the dahomey warrior fought the mighty oyo you praised and won with just few women tthey had to regroup again before oyo could lay attack after some years...the dahimey femsle took the empire you praise captive as skaves which the britsh continued from ..the fulani did a justice to the so called oyo too ...you should ashamed for your baseless praises

Dahomey never held Oyo Captive...... Infact we massacred them and controlled them until the Oyo Empire went to many war with other Yoruba Clans and have no option than to let the Dahomey go because they have been overstretched with War and no longer have the power to hold on to Dahomey... That was how Dahomey got their freedom, we let them Go because we no longer have the power to make them stay ..... They did not go to war with Oyo.... We were the one that enslaved them.... and as for the case of Fulani ...... Afonja King of the Ilorin people connived with Fulani to Conquered Yoruba Land and Betrayed Yoruba Land, Ogbomosho was where the Old Oyo empire was located back then and they were stopped before getting close to Ogbomosho, The Oyo Empire Relocated to Ibadan because Ibadan was a War Camp the old Oyo Empire Ibadan still exist till today without any traces of Dahomey and Fulani infact Dahomey did not attack Oyo Empire we were the one that went to their place and conquered them, the Fulani was the one that attacked Oyo Empire because of the aid of A Yoruba Traitor and we still stopped them even though it affected Oyo Empire and they relocated To Ibadan to formed the new Oyo Empire which still existed till today. The Fulani did not even Conquered any Yoruba land, they only managed to still the throne of Afonja after he died and his son was murdered by Fulani Leader "Abdul salami" whom was bossom Friend to "Afonja" and he made himself the king and it was not Yoruba Problem because he was paying for being a traitor to Yoruba land. Osogbo was another place Fulani tried to steal and they were killed and sent packing to the far north, The Dahomey got massacred every time they tried to conquered Yoruba at Abeokuta even though they managed to stole two small villages from Yoruba and that was Sabo and Ketu they marched forward to conquered Abeokuta, the Yoruba tricked them to believed the city was empty they entered the city and the Yorubas closed the Gate and Slaughtered them, they even massacred them as they flee. The Dahomey never try to attack Oyo Empire, it was Oyo Empire that conquered them the only Yoruba Dahomey tried to conquered several times was The Egba at Abeokuta and they always got their ass kicked and Massacred every time in fact i will blame them for not finishing them off in their own land because the Egba didn't attack them, they were the one that tried to attacked Yoruba. I understand your Frustration that you want Yoruba to be enslaved so Bad, In War you lose some and You win some but we won more than we lost infact if Yoruba were so weak we would be rule by Fulani due to the amount of war we fought with them compare to Hausa despite the greatness of Hausa Kingdom they were easily conquered by Fulani, but as for the Case of Yoruba we sent them packing from our land and lost a city to them due to the betrayal we suffered from our own kinsmen and we understand that we might not be able to win every battle, but we are still the greatest in Nigeria and West africa compare to some tribe that are only known for settling battle through wrestling and in their history they didn't have any encounter with other tribe and the only war they fought with other tribe they lost at last and Some that were conquered and Ruled by Fulani

Olawalesmarter:


Dahomey never held Oyo Captive...... Infact we massacred them and controlled them until the Oyo Empire went to many war with other Yoruba Clans and have no option than to let the Dahomey go because they have been overstretched with War and no longer have the power to hold on to Dahomey... That was how Dahomey got their freedom, we let them Go because we no longer have the power to make them stay ..... They did not go to war with Oyo.... We were the one that enslaved them.... and as for the case of Fulani ...... Afonja King of the Ilorin people connived with Fulani to Conquered Yoruba Land and Betrayed Yoruba Land, Ogbomosho was where the Old Oyo empire was located back then and they were stopped before getting close to Ogbomosho, The Oyo Empire Relocated to Ibadan because Ibadan was a War Camp the old Oyo Empire Ibadan still exist till today without any traces of Dahomey and Fulani infact Dahomey did not attack Oyo Empire we were the one that went to their place and conquered them, the Fulani was the one that attacked Oyo Empire because of the aid of A Yoruba Traitor and we still stopped them even though it affected Oyo Empire and they relocated To Ibadan to formed the new Oyo Empire which still existed till today. The Fulani did not even Conquered any Yoruba land, they only managed to still the throne of Afonja after he died and his son was murdered by Fulani Leader "Abdul salami" whom was bossom Friend to "Afonja" and he made himself the king and it was not Yoruba Problem because he was paying for being a traitor to Yoruba land. Osogbo was another place Fulani tried to steal and they were killed and sent packing to the far north, The Dahomey got massacred every time they tried to conquered Yoruba at Abeokuta even though they managed to stole two small villages from Yoruba and that was Sabo and Ketu they marched forward to conquered Abeokuta, the Yoruba tricked them to believed the city was empty they entered the city and the Yorubas closed the Gate and Slaughtered them, they even massacred them as they flee. The Dahomey never try to attack Oyo Empire, it was Oyo Empire that conquered them the only Yoruba Dahomey tried to conquered several times was The Egba at Abeokuta and they always got their ass kicked and Massacred every time in fact i will blame them for not finishing them off in their own land because the Egba didn't attack them, they were the one that tried to attacked Yoruba. I understand your Frustration that you want Yoruba to be enslaved so Bad, In War you lose some and You win some but we won more than we lost infact if Yoruba were so weak we would be rule by Fulani due to the amount of war we fought with them compare to Hausa despite the greatness of Hausa Kingdom they were easily conquered by Fulani, but as for the Case of Yoruba we sent them packing from our land and lost a city to them due to the betrayal we suffered from our own kinsmen and we understand that we might not be able to win every battle, but we are still the greatest in Nigeria and West africa compare to some tribe that are only known for settling battle through wrestling and in their history they didn't have any encounter with other tribe and the only war they fought with other tribe they lost at last and Some that were conquered and Ruled by Fulani

If the oyo empire you so admired was the way you're praising it i bet even the Europeans would acknowledged it ...it's painfull is only the yorubas that acknowledged thier own praise .am never jealous of the oyo empire cause i see nothing there to hold jealousy of....an empire raped by ladies took the citizen captive fulani came held the empire down for years even till present .the europeans acknowledged the female amazon warriors not the egba warriors .dont tell oyo fables outside nigeria if you dont want to end up beem laugged out check the nearest neighbor benin city a country was named after it civilizatin thats history

gregyboy:



If the oyo empire you so admired was the way you're praising it i bet even the Europeans would acknowledged it ...it's painfull is only the yorubas that acknowledged thier own praise .am never jealous of the oyo empire cause i see nothing there to hold jealousy of....an empire raped by ladies took the citizen captive fulani came held the empire down for years even till present .the europeans acknowledged the female amazon warriors not the egba warriors .dont tell oyo fables outside nigeria if you dont want to end up beem laugged out check the nearest neighbor benin city a country was named after it civilizatin thats history

despite all i have written you chose to ignore it Now i understand where you are coming from, But sorry Yoruba Is the Greatest in West Africa you can take it or leave it and we will tell our history anywhere we want to because it was not stories, it is part of who we are and it is our Experience but seriously i don't understand why Benin see us as Competition because we hardly know they Exist...... have a Nice day

gregyboy:



If the oyo empire you so admired was the way you're praising it i bet even the Europeans would acknowledged it ...it's painfull is only the yorubas that acknowledged thier own praise .am never jealous of the oyo empire cause i see nothing there to hold jealousy of....an empire raped by ladies took the citizen captive fulani came held the empire down for years even till present .the europeans acknowledged the female amazon warriors not the egba warriors .dont tell oyo fables outside nigeria if you dont want to end up beem laugged out check the nearest neighbor benin city a country was named after it civilizatin thats history

Yeah and what was really there to know about a Civilization that was rule by the Old Oyo Empire and Got their ass Kicked by the Egbas in Abeokuta? To you it may not be History because you are ignorant but to anyone that want to learn about the History of West Africa it will always be known as History and they will always read about how Dahomey were enslaved by old Oyo Empire and how they were massacred by the Egbas of Abeokuta sorry but that's just the Facts

gregyboy:



If the oyo empire you so admired was the way you're praising it i bet even the Europeans would acknowledged it ...it's painfull is only the yorubas that acknowledged thier own praise .am never jealous of the oyo empire cause i see nothing there to hold jealousy of....an empire raped by ladies took the citizen captive fulani came held the empire down for years even till present .the europeans acknowledged the female amazon warriors not the egba warriors .dont tell oyo fables outside nigeria if you dont want to end up beem laugged out check the nearest neighbor benin city a country was named after it civilizatin thats history

i laugh at your Ignorance and who named the Benin Empire you are beating chest about? It was in History that we were the one that gave Benin Their name and well known by other tribe because that's just the truth. Now you can say we named Benin Empire and we named Benin republic too the History we never be complete without talking about where the name Came from and Yoruba we always be there so what's so civilize about that?

Olawalesmarter:


Yeah and what was really there to know about a Civilization that was rule by the Old Oyo Empire an Got their ass Kicked by the Egbas in Abeokuta? To you it may not be History because you are ignorant but to anyone that want to learn about the History of West Africa it will always be known as History and they will always read about how Dahomey were enslaved by old Oyo Empire and how they were massacred by the Egbas of Abeokuta sorry but that's just the Facts

Ha...illusion is all i see in oyo history an empire that couldn't hold itself completely for 300yrs it was a week empire that was entered through social contract not conquest the moments it wanted to entire through conquest thats when it fell it was a time bomb waiting to explode egba invaded dahomey not oyo.you saying oyo its crediting it wrongly .an empire that couldnt defeat beyound it ethnic group .dahomey came in the late 18century to sack the oyo empire fulani did the same too the empire couldnt reclaim thier ownership because it was weak .the fulani had an empire they conquered foreign territories when they got to benin they meant a stronger force and they fled .benin was nicknamed ubinu not benin this are different

Olawalesmarter:


despite all i have written you chose to ignore it Now i understand where you are coming from, But sorry Yoruba Is the Greatest in West Africa you can take it or leave it and we will tell our history anywhere we want to because it was not stories, it is part of who we are and it is our Experience but seriously i don't understand why Benin see us as Competition because we hardly know they Exist...... have a Nice day

Don't mind @greyboy; I think he is just a troll, and a Benin man. As you can see, he had no concrete evidence for counter claim. Anyway, I am not surprise, That's how their ancestors refused to listen to voice of reasoning, when they were warn against taking arms against the British. Hence, their "sorry loss" during the punitive expedition of 1998. Most of these Artifacts stolen from them would have remain intact, but for stubbornness...

gregyboy:



Ha...illusion is all i see in oyo history an empire that couldn't hold itself completely for 300yrs it was a week empire that was entered through social contract not conquest the moments it wanted to entire through conquest thats when it fell it was a time bomb waiting to explode egba invaded dahomey not oyo.you saying oyo its crediting it wrongly .an empire that couldnt defeat beyound it ethnic group .dahomey came in the late 18century to sack the oyo empire fulani did the same too the empire couldnt reclaim thier ownership because it was weak .the fulani had an empire they conquered foreign territories when they got to benin they meant a stronger force and they fled .benin was nicknamed ubinu not benin this are different

that's the fake History you want, but whether you like it or not Oyo Empire Conquered Dahomey but they didn't Occupy your land but they make you pay Tributary Status to the Oyo Empire and it was king Ghezo that ended it by beheading the head of the messenger sent to collect the tribute but Oyo Empire was not in the Position to go to war because they were already in many war if Dahomey People really sacked Oyo, they would have occupied it and even rule it because they were well known for being evil not good people, and the Egbas didn't invade Dahomey it was dahomey that always attacked and they always got massacred. You boasted that benin republic was named after Benin city and it was Yoruba that named Benin City and that name "ubinu" Is still Yoruba Language and we named benin City "Ibinu" which was later mispronounced by Portuguese Traders to "Benin". You can forged history to the one you like but it will never be complete without how The Egbas Killed 3000 of your Amazon under King Ghezo and how his son tried to revenged but got their ass kicked again by losing 5000+ soldiers. You were brave Warriors with your Amazon and Soldiers but you were just not a Match and you were lucky you didn't attack Oyo Empire because that would have been the end of your Kingdom and you Blood suckers never fight with Fulani you are lieing.... Now you can tell yourself anything to feel good, We don't care .... Have a nice day

Olawalesmarter:


that's the fake History you want, but whether you like it or not Oyo Empire Conquered Dahomey but they didn't Occupy your land but they make you pay Tributary Status to the Oyo Empire and it was king Ghezo that ended it by beheading the head of the messenger sent to collect the tribute but Oyo Empire was not in the Position to go to war because they were already in many war if Dahomey People really sacked Oyo, they would have occupied it and even rule it because they were well known for being evil not good people, and the Egbas didn't invade Dahomey it was dahomey that always attacked and they always got massacred. You boasted that benin republic was named after Benin city and it was Yoruba that named Benin City and that name "ubinu" Is still Yoruba Language and we named benin City "Ibinu" which was later mispronounced by Portuguese Traders to "Benin". You can forged history to the one you like but it will never be complete without how The Egbas Killed 3000 of your Amazon under King Ghezo and how his son tried to revenged but got their ass kicked again by losing 5000+ soldiers. You were brave Warriors with your Amazon and Soldiers but you were just not a Match and you were lucky you didn't attack Oyo Empire because that would have been the end of your Kingdom and you Blood suckers never fight with Fulani you are lieing.... Now you can tell yourself anything to feel good, We don't care .... Have a nice day

We took the yoruba slaves captive they are the descendant of slavez living in benin republic today who traced their origin to yoruba..nevertheless the oyo only ruled the part of Dahomey that fled during war from oyo kingdom to benin rep this are the people they ruled not the actual benin indeginous people
Ubinu you called it the Portuguese called it benin land of blood its totally different names and different meanings get that

MamiWata:


You want ladies who beat the Oyo empire to be on the front page of nairaland. Aaaaaay Nigerian men are becoming more chivalrous everyday. I like it.

History

Seh-Dong-Hong-Beh, a leader of the Amazons
The origins of Dahomey can be traced back to the Fon people of the interior of the African continent, who banded together in a conglomerate in order to oppose the political authority of the Yoruba People of Oyo. Technically an official subject of the Yoruba of Oyo, the Fon people were forced to pay tribute to their political conquerors and were subjected to cavalry raids made by the Oyo armies in order to supply the slave trade.

In order to unite the Fon people in opposition to the Yoruba, leaders who rose to positions of power capitalized on the ability to perform well on the battlefield. With military skill being prized as the ultimate expression of authority, the king of the Fon came to embody uncontested authority, and his will was enforced by the army.

King Wegbaja rose to power in roughly 1650 and came to embody the militaristic values that had become embedded among the Fon people. Based in his capital of Abomey, Wegbaja and his successors succeeded in establishing a highly centralized state with a deep-rooted tradition of autocratic centralized government. Economically, Wegbaja and his successors profited mainly from the slave trade and relations with slavers along the Atlantic coast. As he embarked on wars to expand their territory, they began using rifles and other firearms traded with French and Spanish slave-traders for young men captured in battle, who fetched a very high price from the European slave-merchants.

Later expansion of Dahomey towards the coast met with resistance from the alafin, or ruler, of Oyo, who resented the political and economic rise of their subject. Soon after the march to the sea, the alafin of Oyo sent cavalry raids to Oyo in 1726, completely defeating the army. Later cavalry invasions in 1728, 1729, and 1730, in which Oyo proved sucessful, hindered the plans for coastal expansion.

In 1902 Dahomey was declared a French colony. In the movement of African decolonization following World War II, Dahomey became an autonomous republic, gaining full independence in 1960. The Republic of Dahomey changed its name to Benin in 1975.

Dahomey has been featured in a variety of literary works. For example, "In Dahomey" by Paul Laurence Dunbar, produced in 1903, was the first all-black musical performed on Broadway.

In 1971, American novelist Frank Yerby published The Man From Dahomey, a historical novel set partially in Dahomey, which introduces rich Dahomean culture to the reader.

gregyboy:



How funny the dahomey warrior fought the mighty oyo you praised and won with just few women tthey had to regroup again before oyo could lay attack after some years...the dahimey femsle took the empire you praise captive as skaves which the britsh continued from ..the fulani did a justice to the so called oyo too ...you should ashamed for your baseless praises

History

Seh-Dong-Hong-Beh, a leader of the Amazons
The origins of Dahomey can be traced back to the Fon people of the interior of the African continent, who banded together in a conglomerate in order to oppose the political authority of the Yoruba People of Oyo. Technically an official subject of the Yoruba of Oyo, the Fon people were forced to pay tribute to their political conquerors and were subjected to cavalry raids made by the Oyo armies in order to supply the slave trade.

In order to unite the Fon people in opposition to the Yoruba, leaders who rose to positions of power capitalized on the ability to perform well on the battlefield. With military skill being prized as the ultimate expression of authority, the king of the Fon came to embody uncontested authority, and his will was enforced by the army.

King Wegbaja rose to power in roughly 1650 and came to embody the militaristic values that had become embedded among the Fon people. Based in his capital of Abomey, Wegbaja and his successors succeeded in establishing a highly centralized state with a deep-rooted tradition of autocratic centralized government. Economically, Wegbaja and his successors profited mainly from the slave trade and relations with slavers along the Atlantic coast. As he embarked on wars to expand their territory, they began using rifles and other firearms traded with French and Spanish slave-traders for young men captured in battle, who fetched a very high price from the European slave-merchants.

Later expansion of Dahomey towards the coast met with resistance from the alafin, or ruler, of Oyo, who resented the political and economic rise of their subject. Soon after the march to the sea, the alafin of Oyo sent cavalry raids to Oyo in 1726, completely defeating the army. Later cavalry invasions in 1728, 1729, and 1730, in which Oyo proved sucessful, hindered the plans for coastal expansion.

In 1902 Dahomey was declared a French colony. In the movement of African decolonization following World War II, Dahomey became an autonomous republic, gaining full independence in 1960. The Republic of Dahomey changed its name to Benin in 1975.

Dahomey has been featured in a variety of literary works. For example, "In Dahomey" by Paul Laurence Dunbar, produced in 1903, was the first all-black musical performed on Broadway.

In 1971, American novelist Frank Yerby published The Man From Dahomey, a historical novel set partially in Dahomey, which introduces rich Dahomean culture to the reader.

gregyboy:



If the oyo empire you so admired was the way you're praising it i bet even the Europeans would acknowledged it ...it's painfull is only the yorubas that acknowledged thier own praise .am never jealous of the oyo empire cause i see nothing there to hold jealousy of....an empire raped by ladies took the citizen captive fulani came held the empire down for years even till present .the europeans acknowledged the female amazon warriors not the egba warriors .dont tell oyo fables outside nigeria if you dont want to end up beem laugged out check the nearest neighbor benin city a country was named after it civilizatin thats history

History

Seh-Dong-Hong-Beh, a leader of the Amazons
The origins of Dahomey can be traced back to the Fon people of the interior of the African continent, who banded together in a conglomerate in order to oppose the political authority of the Yoruba People of Oyo. Technically an official subject of the Yoruba of Oyo, the Fon people were forced to pay tribute to their political conquerors and were subjected to cavalry raids made by the Oyo armies in order to supply the slave trade.

In order to unite the Fon people in opposition to the Yoruba, leaders who rose to positions of power capitalized on the ability to perform well on the battlefield. With military skill being prized as the ultimate expression of authority, the king of the Fon came to embody uncontested authority, and his will was enforced by the army.

King Wegbaja rose to power in roughly 1650 and came to embody the militaristic values that had become embedded among the Fon people. Based in his capital of Abomey, Wegbaja and his successors succeeded in establishing a highly centralized state with a deep-rooted tradition of autocratic centralized government. Economically, Wegbaja and his successors profited mainly from the slave trade and relations with slavers along the Atlantic coast. As he embarked on wars to expand their territory, they began using rifles and other firearms traded with French and Spanish slave-traders for young men captured in battle, who fetched a very high price from the European slave-merchants.

Later expansion of Dahomey towards the coast met with resistance from the alafin, or ruler, of Oyo, who resented the political and economic rise of their subject. Soon after the march to the sea, the alafin of Oyo sent cavalry raids to Oyo in 1726, completely defeating the army. Later cavalry invasions in 1728, 1729, and 1730, in which Oyo proved sucessful, hindered the plans for coastal expansion.

In 1902 Dahomey was declared a French colony. In the movement of African decolonization following World War II, Dahomey became an autonomous republic, gaining full independence in 1960. The Republic of Dahomey changed its name to Benin in 1975.

Dahomey has been featured in a variety of literary works. For example, "In Dahomey" by Paul Laurence Dunbar, produced in 1903, was the first all-black musical performed on Broadway.

In 1971, American novelist Frank Yerby published The Man From Dahomey, a historical novel set partially in Dahomey, which introduces rich Dahomean culture to the reader.

MamiWata:


You want ladies who beat the Oyo empire to be on the front page of nairaland. Aaaaaay Nigerian men are becoming more chivalrous everyday. I like it.

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