There are several religion and beliefs in God, gods or a diety in the world-e.g. christainity, islam, paganism, buddism, etc..but many atheist and other non-religious people have be saying that the problem of this world is because of religion and different beliefs..This got me thinking alot and i imagined how the world will look like without religion and worshipping God..To me the world will be dull, boring and too monotonous. Nothing special when there is no religion or belief in God, gods or diety..so please i would love to get your own opinion.

Is religion your source of entertainment?

People will have one less thing to fight and discriminate each other with. . .We can look at societies today where people do not believe in god and we will see that it is still the same with those where belief is rife. . .Just that people have one less thing to fight over or discriminate each other with. . .

We would have a world worsre than the animal kingdom. the presence /absence of religion is not what would make the world a bettter/worse place. Rather, the absence of righteousness is what would make the world really bad, some thing we are experiencing already, Righteousness and religion are not siamese twins

Rhymeyjohn: We would have a world worsre than the animal kingdom. the presence /absence of religion is not what would make the world a bettter/worse place. Rather, the absence of righteousness is what would make the world really bad, some thing we are experiencing already, Righteousness and religion are not siamese twins

Nigeria is the second most religious country in the world. . .Yet it remains one of the most rotten country in the world. . .Denmark is a country with one of the highest atheist population in the world but still remains one of the best country in the world. . .Obviously your statement is very false. . .

Mr Troll: Is religion your source of entertainment?

Why do you ask

mazaje: People will have one less thing to fight and discriminate each other with. . .We can look at societies today where people do not believe in god and we will see that it is still the same with those where belief is rife. . .Just that people have one less thing to fight over or discriminate each other with. . .

To the bolded, True but that means religion is not really the actual cause of man's problem then since there are other numerous reasons why man will always continue to fight himself.

BTW, how will you feel when you wake up everyday in a world where there are no worships( inluding deity worship in paganism, buddism etc), no celebrations/festivals (christmas, oro/ Eyo festival, Arochukwu festival, muslim festivals)..How do you feel when you are down and you have that urge to hope and pray for something but you cant knowing that there is no God.

mazaje:

Nigeria is the second most religious country in the world. . .Yet it remains one of the most rotten countries in the world. . .Denmark is a country with one of the highest atheist population in the world but still remains one of the best countries in the world. . .Obviously your statement is very false. . .

well, i countered that by saying what you added. the problem is many confuse the meaning of 'religion' to mean rightoeusness.

mazaje:

Nigeria is the second most religious country in the world. . .Yet it remains one of the most rotten countries in the world. . .Denmark is a country with one of the highest atheist population in the world but still remains one of the best countries in the world. . .Obviously your statement is very false. . .

@Mazaje, permit me to say something here, now, Nigeria is highly religious in the wrong manner hence leading to its high level of rotteness and corruption.

James 1:26-27 says:

26 If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

How many christains/muslim/pagan or any other religion perform this act in Nigeria? How many religious people visit the fatherless, widows, less previleged, the victims of disasters(example the flood that happened sometimes last year in some states) not just to see them but to speak words of comfort to them and also contribute to their well being? We have failed to show true unfeigned love to one another in the country hence our woeful status as a country. Until we start practicing true religion by showing unfeigned love to our fellow Nigerians our religions will be worthless and we will still be ignorantly practicing wrong religion and highly corrupt in the world.

Without Religion and all the associated evil people. Paradise
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Without God. Nothing

Well from my own point of view, the world will look meaningless and worthless

Rhymeyjohn: well, i countered that by saying what you added. the problem is many confuse the meaning of 'religion' to mean rightoeusness.

please explain.

Born 2be Rich: Well from my own point of view, the world will look meaningless and worthless

Thank you.

joel lala:


@Mazaje, permit me to say something here, now, Nigeria is highly religious in the wrong manner hence leading to its high level of rotteness and corruption.

James 1:26-27 says:

26 If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless. 27 Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

How many christains/muslim/pagan or any other religion perform this act in Nigeria? How many religious people visit the fatherless, widows, less previleged, the victims of disasters(example the flood that happened sometimes last year in some states) not just to see them but to speak words of comfort to them and also contribute to their well being? We have failed to show true unfeigned love to one another in the country hence our woeful status as a country. Until we start practicing true religion by showing unfeigned love to our fellow Nigerians our religions will be worthless and we will still be ignorantly practicing wrong religion and highly corrupt in the world.

Does one need religion to visit the less privileged? Does one need God to do good? Are there not secular charities?

CHURCHES AND MOSQUES ARE FULL WITH PEOPLE IN NIGERIA. NIGERIA IS RELIGIOUS. YOU CANT SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT RELIGIOUS BBECAUSE IT IS A CORRUPT COUNTRY. SOMEONE CAN WORSHIP GOD AND DO BAD THINGS.

joel lala:


To the bolded, True but that means religion is not really the actual cause of man's problem then since there are other numerous reasons why man will always continue to fight himself.

BTW, how will you feel when you wake up everyday in a world where there are no worships( inluding deity worship in paganism, buddism etc), no celebrations/festivals (christmas, oro/ Eyo festival, Arochukwu festival, muslim festivals)..How do you feel when you are down and you have that urge to hope and pray for something but you cant knowing that there is no God.

Think. Think beyond your religion.



There are festivals without religion. Notting hill carnival.....beerfest....calabar carnival....even Easter today is about the Easter bunny not Jesus. More people eat chocolate eggs than go to church on easter.

Also, you seem to think that one can not hope without God. That is false sir

Its without doubt that it would be a much more peaceful world than the one we have now, a world where rational thinking prevails and a world far advanced in science...religion has probably been the single biggest hindrance to the advancement of our species...little wonder the most secular countries today especially the Scandinavian nations,South korea etc rank as the most peaceful,developed and organized societies in today's world

Logicboy03:



Does one need religion to visit the less privileged? Does one need God to do good? Are there not secular charities?

CHURCHES AND MOSQUES ARE FULL WITH PEOPLE IN NIGERIA. NIGERIA IS RELIGIOUS. YOU CANT SAY THAT THEY ARE NOT RELIGIOUS BBECAUSE IT IS A CORRUPT COUNTRY. SOMEONE CAN WORSHIP GOD AND DO BAD THINGS.

Am not saying that nigeria is not religious but what am saying is that we practise religion falsely or in the wrong manner hence the current status we are tagged today..

Logicboy03:




Think. Think beyond your religion.



There are festivals without religion. Notting hill carnival.....beerfest....calabar carnival....even Easter today is about the Easter bunny not Jesus. More people eat chocolate eggs than go to church on easter.

Also, you seem to think that one can not hope without God. That is false sir

You misconstrue the idea here bro..most of the festivals celebrated are still based on one belief or the other..it must not be a christain religion festival before the world celebrate in honour to one divine being or deity..it can be a pagan one but the main thing here still boils down to man's belief in God, a god, gods, deity or supernatural force

Ok, let me make small sense...

Just like Mazaje said, we would have one less thing to fight about. This is not to say that the world would automatically become problem free but at least we would wake up everyday determined to fight to make this here world a better place. We won't sit on our hands and wait for an omni omni skydaddy to come and clear away all the evil doers. We would fight for our rights harder, we would fight for equal rights and justice. There will be no room for 'God de', 'Karma' etc etc

We won't automatically suspect a borno man just because he's muslim, there'll be no talk of devil worshippers and false gods and the attendant discriminations...

This is already evident in majorly atheist countries, because contrary to what you may think, there is law and order there, respect for rule of law. No shoddy politician will come and tell y'all to pray for gods intervention in remedying our power situation, something that can be done by ourselves. No silly president will make a show of kneeling for a man of god in other to impress the christians and probably win their support while doing nada to improve their living conditions. No rogue politician will go to a church and brazenly tell the congregation that even if an election was rigged it was all gods plan and they'll all shout Amen!!! Nobody will rob you blind and still tell you to pray for gods justice.

In short, we as humans will become fully responsible for our actions and inactions. No outsourcing of responsibility to an invisible devil or god!

Total chaos. i am an atheist, but i believe religion has helped put a lot of people on a leash. most of the wars or conflicts you term as religious are in many cases struggle for power and control of resources.

Imagine a world without religion,there will be less retard people on the planet. Every Sundays will be peaceful(no pastors shouting on loud speakers on every corners of the streets) no tithes and offering,no reason to kill your fellow human because of god. All human will have no reason to think this world is not their home. There will be unity and orderliness,no devil to blame if you fall short in your life expectation. Everyone will strive to be the best.

nnofaith: Total chaos. i am an atheist, but i believe religion has helped put a lot of people on a leash. most of the wars or conflicts you term as religious are in many cases struggle for power and control of resources.

this your post is a non sequitor.

Is religion itself not a means of power and control?

Is denmark in total chaos? Many of the conflicts even if not religious are usually termed religious to give it some sort of legitimacy and make its fighters more convinced that they're doing the right thing. All in all it still Boils down to the same thing. The powers use religion to cloak their evil deeds. Remove religion and they have one less excuse to hide under...

Mr Troll: Ok, let me make small sense...

Just like Mazaje said, we would have one less thing to fight about. This is not to say that the world would automatically become problem free but at least we would wake up everyday determined to fight to make this here world a better place. We won't sit on our hands and wait for an omni omni skydaddy to come and clear away all the evil doers. We would fight for our rights harder, we would fight for equal rights and justice. There will be no room for 'God de', 'Karma' etc etc

We won't automatically suspect a borno man just because he's muslim, there'll be no talk of devil worshippers and false gods and the attendant discriminations...

This is already evident in majorly atheist countries, because contrary to what you may think, there is law and order there, respect for rule of law. No shoddy politician will come and tell y'all to pray for gods intervention in remedying our power situation, something that can be done by ourselves. No silly president will make a show of kneeling for a man of god in other to impress the christians and probably win their support while doing nada to improve their living conditions. No rogue politician will go to a church and brazenly tell the congregation that even if an election was rigged it was all gods plan and they'll all shout Amen!!! Nobody will rob you blind and still tell you to pray for gods justice.

In short, we as humans will become fully responsible for our actions and inactions. No outsourcing of responsibility to an invisible devil or god!

I thank you nd agree to what you said but not fully...you indirectly mentioned in your write up that there are some atheist countries that dont believe in God or any deity or even have any form of beliefs..so please mention some of these atheist countries that dont believe in a supernatural being or dont have any form of beliefs(e.g paganism, buddism).

joel lala:

I thank you nd agree to what you said but not fully...you indirectly mentioned in your write up that there are some atheist countries that dont believe in God or any deity or even have any form of beliefs..so please mention some of these atheist countries that dont believe in a supernatural being or dont have any form of beliefs(e.g paganism, buddism).

Don't mistake me. There are MAJORLY atheist countries. Surely you would find religious people there but the athesists or irreligious are in the majority. Gerrit?

China- 59% non religious

Denmark- 71% non religious

Netherlands- 69%

France- 67%

Germany- 56%

Etc

Source- wikipedia.

Mr Troll:

Don't mistake me. There are MAJORLY atheist countries. Surely you would find religious people there but the athesists or irreligious are in the majority. Gerrit?

China- 59% non religious

Denmark- 71% non religious

Netherlands- 69%

France- 67%

Germany- 56%

Etc

Source- wikipedia.

Yes i understand but you misconstrue the topic...majority of these countries you mentioned still highly believe in a god, goddess or deity..take china for example, majority still worship and pray to budha, a god/deity and are doing well..so the idea here is lets remove everything and anything that has to do with worshipping God, gods, deity or have any form of festivity to honour any gods and with this how would the world be then? Lets try to picture this..

joel lala:

Yes i understand but you misconstrue the topic...majority of these countries you mentioned still highly believe in a god, goddess or deity..take china for example, majority still worship and pray to budha, a god/deity and are doing well..so the idea here is lets remove everything and anything that has to do with worshipping God, gods, deity or have any form of festivity to honour any gods and with this how would the world be then? Lets try to picture this..

What constitutes a majority for you bros?
No offense but what the hell are you talking about china and worship of buddha? Buddha is not a deity, he's a man. Buddhism as a religion does not inculcate the worship of any deity, certainly not buddha. Get yourself informed bro.
Of course there's no 100% atheist country anywhere. What we are doing here is an extrapolation. I just showed you countries with higher percentages of irreligious citizens and they are doing very well without having to attribute anything to any supernatural deity anywhere. Their society is better organized than what you would have imagined. Even the religious citizens there know how to mind their business and not disturb the peace.

And just to be clear though, not all cultural festivities have a religious connotation. . .

To be honest with you, Mr joel lala, the world will not be any better. Religion is merely but a mask that mankind hide behind to perpetrate evil and bigotry.

Without Religion, man will sooner find something else to fight over than face the reality of being the real problem.

Ray McBlue: To be honest with you, Mr joel lala, the world will not be any better. Religion is merely but a mask that mankind hide behind to perpetrate evil and bigotry.

Without Religion, man will sooner find something else to fight over than face the reality of being the real problem.

Thank you Ray for your honest post.

Mr Troll: What constitutes a majority for you bros?
No offense but what the hell are you talking about china and worship of buddha? Buddha is not a deity, he's a man. Buddhism as a religion does not inculcate the worship of any deity, certainly not buddha. Get yourself informed bro.
Of course there's no 100% atheist country anywhere. What we are doing here is an extrapolation. I just showed you countries with higher percentages of irreligious citizens and they are doing very well without having to attribute anything to any supernatural deity anywhere. Their society is better organized than what you would have imagined. Even the religious citizens there know how to mind their business and not disturb the peace.

And just to be clear though, not all cultural festivities have a religious connotation. . .

Okay

joel lala:

Thank you Ray for your honest post.

Welcome.

joel lala:


To the bolded, True but that means religion is not really the actual cause of man's problem then since there are other numerous reasons why man will always continue to fight himself.

Religion is part of man's problems. . .Without it there will be one less thing to fight over and one less problem. . .There will be many other problems without religion but humanity will get rid of one of its problems and source of conflict. . .

BTW, how will you feel when you wake up everyday in a world where there are no worships( inluding deity worship in paganism, buddism etc), no celebrations/festivals (christmas, oro/ Eyo festival, Arochukwu festival, muslim festivals)..How do you feel when you are down and you have that urge to hope and pray for something but you cant knowing that there is no God.

I used to live in Denmark where I hardly see people worshiping anything. . .People don't go to church there, christist has now evolved into a holiday. . . .No worship no religious festivities and life is just normal. . .How has prayers ever helped to solve humanity's problems?. . .Nigeria is the most prayerful country I have ever lived in, every body prays all of the time, people even pray when they attend parties and celebration, people pray before they travel, go to the hospitals people are every where praying for healing etc. . .It has produced no result so far. . .One of the highest road accidents despite all the prayers before embarking on journeys, one of the highest mortality rates, curable disease kill millions every year. . .We pray all the time but prayer has failed us completely because it has not and will never make us great. . .Countries where people do not pray have a very functioning system. . .

Ray McBlue: To be honest with you, Mr joel lala, the world will not be any better. Religion is merely but a mask that mankind hide behind to perpetrate evil and bigotry.

Without Religion, man will sooner find something else to fight over than face the reality of being the real problem.

Oh, how foolish of you sir. Sorry to sound rude but seeing as you are not religious, you must be trolling with that statement. We have seen countries with little religion and how much the absence of religion in majority of their citizens' lives is met with a higher standard of living.