Gambia to withdraw from Commonwealth. terming it a modern day colonization by england. The rest of us will still continue singing "god bless the queen" to some old senile

Hmmm.... And you think thats the best decision, or is being a member of commonwealth the problem of nigeria?

Deiok: Hmmm.... And you think thats the best decision, or is being a member of commonwealth the problem of nigeria?

Why should Nigeria appear subservient to England? Gambia is doing the right thing. If Ghana was smart they would do that too.

This is a step in the right direction. Nigeria and every right thinking country should follow suit. There's absolutely nothing to benefit from the commonwealth.

Afam4eva: This is a step in the right direction. Nigeria and every right thinking country should follow suit. There's absolutely nothing to benefit from the commonwealth.

wow how unintelligent this comment is
there are lots of common exchanges between countries of the Commonwealth in areas of sports, education and diplomacy.

what is wrong with Nigerians ??
why are we so myopic??

empathizing with a ruler of a tiny nation that seized power through a coup 18 years ago and hasn't relinquished it. severe human rights abuses under his regime

ebdib:


wow how unintelligent this comment is
there are lots of common exchanges between countries of the Commonwealth in areas of sports, education and diplomacy.

what is wrong with Nigerians ??
why are we so myopic??

empathizing with a ruler of a tiny nation that seized power through a coup 18 years ago and hasn't relinquished it. severe human rights abuses under his regime

Whoever said the common exchanges would not continue? The problem with Nigerians is inferiority complex to other cultures especially Western ones. Yes our leadership is a grandiose problem, but no country in the world is without issues. If there is one, kindly let me know.

ebdib:


wow how unintelligent this comment is
there are lots of common exchanges between countries of the Commonwealth in areas of sports, education and diplomacy.

what is wrong with Nigerians ??
why are we so myopic??

empathizing with a ruler of a tiny nation that seized power through a coup 18 years ago and hasn't relinquished it. severe human rights abuses under his regime

Pls can you list some of the exchanges and how far it has benefited Nigeria. Can't there be exchanges without the commonwealth? The commonwealth is just a way the British controls it's former colonies.

Afam4eva:
Pls can you list some of the exchanges and how far it has benefited Nigeria. Can't there be exchanges without the commonwealth? The commonwealth is just a way the British controls it's former colonies.

come on man!
Lots of post graduate students get common wealth scholarships

Commonwealth games also brings national pride and gives athletes much needed exposure

its Australia under the UK? Is Canada under the UK?

Africans should just cut this "under them" mentality. it doesn't make sense

I thought I was wrong when I said he made a good decision but I guess I am not the only one who thinks so

ebdib:
come on man!
Lots of post graduate students get common wealth scholarships

Commonwealth games also brings national pride and gives athletes much needed exposure

its Australia under the UK? Is Canada under the UK?

Africans should just cut this "under them" mentality. it doesn't make sense

Common Wealth scholarships to go to Eurcentric University where they teach them that Africans are the most inferior people on the planet? That is what they teach at Oxfrd Camridge and many EUrocentric schools in the west. White supremacy to make the students hate being African. I was educated at western schools and they give you an inferiority compex. Is that hat you want as education? Why is it all th educated Africans look down on other Africans and have slef hate and inerioirty complex? They become educated servants.

Based n my research the only Afrocentric people who came from Ivyleagues are Emeka Ojukwu, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Kwame Nkrumah and Chinweiu Ibekwe. Are there any more than that?

igbo2011:


Based n my research the only Afrocentric people who came from Ivyleagues are Emeka Ojukwu, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Kwame Nkrumah and Chinweiu Ibekwe. Are there any more than that?

Each and every name above fought tooth and nail against what they perceive as British and western Domination and Exploitation of Africans. what does that say if not that they saw the future.

Afam4eva: This is a step in the right direction. Nigeria and every right thinking country should follow suit. There's absolutely nothing to benefit from the commonwealth.

The whole concept is embarrassing. Didn't we fight for our freedom?

Didn't know commonwealth have any influence in a foreign government.

Its a pity that the WEALTH is not COMMMON in the Commonwealth !

Canada and NewZealand are probably more Happier members than Gambia...(just a thought)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

My only question: when will Nigeria also get some balls and follow suit?

queenvic: Its a pity that the WEALTH is not COMMMON in the Commonwealth !

Canada and NewZealand are probably more Happier members than Gambia...(just a thought)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Well, I want to assure you that Gambians are very happy

^^ o nooo

igbo2011:

Common Wealth scholarships to go to Eurcentric University where they teach them that Africans are the most inferior people on the planet? That is what they teach at Oxfrd Camridge and many EUrocentric schools in the west. White supremacy to make the students hate being African. I was educated at western schools and they give you an inferiority compex. Is that hat you want as education? Why is it all th educated Africans look down on other Africans and have slef hate and inerioirty complex? They become educated servants.

Based n my research the only Afrocentric people who came from Ivyleagues are Emeka Ojukwu, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Kwame Nkrumah and Chinweiu Ibekwe. Are there any more than that?

Quoted for truth, but dang all Igbos, oh never mind you are Igbo too lol

CAMEROONPRIDE: ^^ o nooo

mistake

wrong post

In my opinion, all Commonwealth members must unite and form their own league and kick britain out. They must then protest at the UN and against GB, to help in their financial aid and development, no tags attached. They can also protest by imposing trade sanctions/restrictions, etc. unitedly against this colonist nation. And also pressurize for the return of our cultural and historical artefacts of value.

PAGAN 9JA:
In my opinion, all Commonwealth members must unite and form their own league and kick britain out. They must then protest at the UN and against GB, to help in their financial aid and development, no tags attached. They can also protest by imposing trade sanctions/restrictions, etc. unitedly against this colonist nation. And also pressurize for the return of our cultural and historical artefacts of value.

When you look at organizations like AU and what it has turned into you can a see a simple constant which many revolutionaries in Africa has always overlooked, As long as the Neo-colonialist were allowed to meddle in African affairs and thereby sustain the capability to install puppet presidents who acts as a proxy for implementing British neo-colonial policies in Africa, there could never be a united African front to this colonial onslaught.

Until African nations whom are liberated form a coalition and liberate other nations, until African staunchly stand against western and European interventionist policies in Africa. All the solitary efforts of many African nations will be frustrated.
Look at it this way, most sanctions on many African countries would have been futile if the neighboring African nations had not complied with the western dictates, the overthrow of many revolutionary leaders in Africa could not have been possible if the neighboring African nations has not provided bases (Tanzania, Djibouti,Ethiopia etc),troops and training grounds,some are used to channel weapons to destabilize and offending nation. The painful reality is that in those nations the masses themselves are against those imperialistic policies which they presidents use them to implement yet they were ignored and in most cases brutally repressed.
African leaders fear the imperialist west more than its own people and that is what we need to change.

Until Africans can hold down Africa for Africans and take control of Africa into their hands no unity would ever be achieved and with no Unity African would never move forward.

thoth:

When you look at organizations like AU and what it has turned into you can a see a simple constant which many revolutionaries in Africa has always overlooked, As long as the Neo-colonialist were allowed to meddle in African affairs and thereby sustain the capability to install puppet presidents who acts as a proxy for implementing British neo-colonial policies in Africa, there could never be a united African front to this colonial onslaught.

Until African nations whom are liberated form a coalition and liberate other nations, until African staunchly stand against western and European interventionist policies in Africa. All the solitary efforts of many African nations will be frustrated.
Look at it this way, most sanctions on many African countries would have been futile if the neighboring African nations had not complied with the western dictates, the overthrow of many revolutionary leaders in Africa could not have been possible if the neighboring African nations has not provided bases (Tanzania, Djibouti,Ethiopia etc),troops and training grounds,some are used to channel weapons to destabilize and offending nation. The painful reality is that in those nations the masses themselves are against those imperialistic policies which they presidents use them to implement yet they were ignored and in most cases brutally repressed.
African leaders fear the imperialist west more than its own people and that is what we need to change.

Until Africans can hold down Africa for Africans and take control of Africa into their hands no unity would ever be achieved and with no Unity African would never move forward.

Quoted for truth

The thread is moving to the FP, pls let's keep it clean and tidy.

Onila, pls remove that ugly pix of urs!

FP threads viewers wouldnt like that.

thoth:

When you look at organizations like AU and what it has turned into you can a see a simple constant which many revolutionaries in Africa has always overlooked, As long as the Neo-colonialist were allowed to meddle in African affairs and thereby sustain the capability to install puppet presidents who acts as a proxy for implementing British neo-colonial policies in Africa, there could never be a united African front to this colonial onslaught.

Until African nations whom are liberated form a coalition and liberate other nations, until African staunchly stand against western and European interventionist policies in Africa. All the solitary efforts of many African nations will be frustrated.
Look at it this way, most sanctions on many African countries would have been futile if the neighboring African nations had not complied with the western dictates, the overthrow of many revolutionary leaders in Africa could not have been possible if the neighboring African nations has not provided bases (Tanzania, Djibouti,Ethiopia etc),troops and training grounds,some are used to channel weapons to destabilize and offending nation. The painful reality is that in those nations the masses themselves are against those imperialistic policies which they presidents use them to implement yet they were ignored and in most cases brutally repressed.
African leaders fear the imperialist west more than its own people and that is what we need to change.

Until Africans can hold down Africa for Africans and take control of Africa into their hands no unity would ever be achieved and with no Unity African would never move forward.

Nigeria must not just look towards some useless African countries. There are many Asian countries as well who have been through the same mess.

ayobase: The thread is moving to the FP, pls let's keep it clean and tidy.

Onila, pls remove that ugly pix of urs!

FP threads viewers wouldnt like that.

That's not an ugly woman by any means sir, attractive actually, though I wish she would wear her natural hair.

PAGAN 9JA:



Nigeria must not just look towards some useless African countries. There are many Asian countries as well who have been through the same mess.

No you misunderstood me, i mean those countries are the major Imperialist puppets in Africa, they have invaded other countries on the order of the west and hosted bases for training of rebels to destabilize democratic nations which refuse to be subservient to the west.

Tanzania has been a serious threat to any country around it that rejects the western hegemonic policies (from Uganda-Idi Amin Dada till date), almost all Operations against the Sovereignty of the Congo are planned and carried out from Tanzania.
Ethiopia – well from Eritrea, Somalia, training AQIM for the destabilization of west Africa to serving as a base for western black Ops operations all over Africa.
Djibouti -Camp Lemonnier is a United States Naval Expeditionary Base,[2] situated at Djibouti's Djibouti-Ambouli International Airport and home to the Combined Joint Task Force - Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) of the U.S. Africa Command (USAFRICOM).[3] The camp is operated by U.S. Navy Region Europe, Africa, Southwest Asia; CJTF-HOA is the most notable tenant command located at the facility as of 2008
There are many more , though most African nations are puppets in their own rights but I meant that those nations has contributed the most to the devastation of African nations.

I hope I am clear now.

thoth:
No you misunderstood me, i mean those countries are the major Imperialist puppets in Africa, they have invaded other countries on the other of the west and hosted bases for training of rebels to destabilize democratic nations which refuse to be subservient to the west.

Tanzania has been a serious threat to any country around it that rejects the western hegemonic policies (from Uganda-Idi Amin Dada till date), almost all Operations against the Sovereignty of the Congo are planned and carried out from Tanzania.
Ethiopia – well from Eritrea, Somalia, training AQIM for the destabilization of west Africa to serving as a base for western black Ops operations all over Africa.
Djibouti -Camp Lemonnier is a United States Naval Expeditionary Base,[2] situated at Djibouti's Djibouti-Ambouli International Airport and home to the Combined Joint Task Force - Horn of Africa (CJTF-HOA) of the U.S. Africa Command (USAFRICOM).[3] The camp is operated by U.S. Navy Region Europe, Africa, Southwest Asia; CJTF-HOA is the most notable tenant command located at the facility as of 2008
There are many more , though most African nations are puppets in their own rights but I meant that those nations has contributed the most to the devastation of African nations.

I hope I am clear now.

yes you are.

However the alliance I initially proposed was an alliance of all Commonwealth Nations.

PAGAN 9JA:


yes you are.

However the alliance I initially proposed was an alliance of all Commonwealth Nations.

That means you will have a larger pool of puppet nations to cause serious chaos for any nation that wants to initiate such order without first overthrowing majority of the leaders of such nations and installing pro-liberation leaders. You can imagine that many nations publicly supported the invasion and overthrow of Libyan Maumar Qaddafi and Nigerian president Goodluck Jonathan was one of them so you can see what the reality of such strategy might look like.

This publication by the The Journal of Pan African Studies discussing the American foreign policy on Liberia since its independence and how it has used its successive puppet presidents to influence Pro African Policies at the AU(now OAU). You can see how the staunch Africanist like Kwame Nkrumah, Abdel Nasser and Sekou Toure were frustrated by the efforts of the neo-colonial puppet regimes that were part of the AU. The Casablanca Bloc and the Monrovia Bloc.
It is only 21 pages and a very good read.

http://www.jpanafrican.com/docs/vol5no1/5.1NeoColonialism.pdf

Enjoy.

thoth:

That means you will have a larger pool of puppet nations to cause serious chaos for any nation that wants to initiate such order without first overthrowing majority of the leaders of such nations and installing pro-liberation leaders. You can imagine that many nations publicly supported the invasion and overthrow of Libyan Maumar Qaddafi and Nigerian president Goodluck Jonathan was one of them so you can see what the reality of such strategy might look like.

This publication by the The Journal of Pan African Studies discussing the American foreign policy on Liberia since its independence and how it has used its successive puppet presidents to influence Pro African Policies at the AU(now OAU). You can see how the staunch Africanist like Kwame Nkrumah, Abdel Nasser and Sekou Toure were frustrated by the efforts of the neo-colonial puppet regimes that were part of the AU. The Casablanca Bloc and the Monrovia Bloc.
It is only 21 pages and a very good read.

http://www.jpanafrican.com/docs/vol5no1/5.1NeoColonialism.pdf

Enjoy.

This is the problem. Liberia is a failed state.

What I was saying is an alliance of ALL Commonwealth Nations (including the reasonably independant Asian ones).

I think this Pan-Africanism is over-rated and racist. The more we go for this Pan-Africanism, the more such puppet nations as you described (Liberia, Tanzania, Ethiopia, etc.) will try to pull us down.

Different African nations have different goals.

We need to start working on more realistic goals on a more INternational basis.


The World my friend, is not just white & black.

PAGAN 9JA:



This is the problem. Liberia is a failed state.

What I was saying is an alliance of ALL Commonwealth Nations (including the reasonably independant Asian ones).

I think this Pan-Africanism is over-rated and racist. The more we go for this Pan-Africanism, the more such puppet nations as you described (Liberia, Tanzania, Ethiopia, etc.) will try to pull us down.

Different African nations have different goals.

We need to start working on more realistic goals on a more INternational basis.


The World my friend, is not just white & black.

well, lets all hope it becomes a reality someday.