GeneralShepherd:

indeed....

Your disbelief doesn't change the reality, sir.

@Ishilove

My bad. I was just following Jesus' example in Mark 12:25 where he said spirits, angels, demons, etc do not have sex or marry. I said the above to illustrate this.

In my own limited understanding, incubi and succubi (spirit husbands and wives) are outcomes of psychological stress and strains.

godman01: Simple thing. Firstly, demons are spirits and can only have influence through humans. Secondly, they can easily use bulk sms platform to send message like its from her line, that's why u could not find the sms on their phones.

Demons can you bulk sms?

Ishilove:
Your disbelief doesn't change the reality, sir.

lol....whatever boils your beans

@GeneralShepherd

I weak when I see that bulk sms yarns.

We Easily believe stories of magic, of ritual killings and ritual money making, but yet when confronted with strong tales of the actual demons at work, we shrug the tales aside and make a joke of it, meanwhile most of us sending negative responses to a matter as serious as this one presented here are actually going through such demonic manipulations, or maybe worse, but hypocritically deny it to make ourselves look good.

The devil is truly working hard to establish complacency in the church and we are making his job easy by denying the deeds of these demons.

If you are having challenges dont hide it, Jesus Died to rescue you and me.
He died that you and I will not perish in our bondage, but that we may be set free through the blood of Jesus Christ.

If you need a change in your situation, pls take a step of faith and pray with us.

Prayer: Father, please forgive me for my sins, wash me in the blood of your son Jesus Christ.
I'm aware that you came to set me free, today i accept your salvation and deliverance.
I declare through the blood of Jesus that "I am free in Jesus name"
Come into my life Lord Jesus and take total control of my life.
I surrender to you Lord in the holy name of Jesus
Amen

InesQor: @Ishilove

My bad. I was just following Jesus' example in Mark 12:25 where he said spirits, angels, demons, etc do not have sex or marry. I said the above to illustrate this.

In my own limited understanding, incubi and succubi (spirit husbands and wives) are outcomes of psychological stress and strains.

If only the bolded were true. I can give you a few hints about their origins and modus operandi, but you wouldn't believe it. Besides, I've never been the 'try to make the other party see things from my own perspective' kind of person.

Spirits spouses are VERY real. Take it from me.

Orisirisi for NL, demons dey send sms and whatsapp, them no dey ping you?, you also need deliverance my broda....

ajayikayod:

Dt devices nah phone? Stop all ds and get back to ur bible instead of depending on experiences.

Please ask God to interpret the Bible to you... Where in my post did I say the "devices" are phone? Seek wisdom and understanding and you will receive it.

escavros: We Easily believe stories of magic, of ritual killings and ritual money making, but yet when confronted with strong tales of the actual demons at work, we shrug the tales aside and make a joke of it, meanwhile most of us sending negative responses to a matter as serious as this one presented here are actually going through such demonic manipulations, or maybe worse, but hypocritically deny it to make ourselves look good.

The devil is truly working hard to establish complacency in the church and we are making his job easy by denying the deeds of these demons.

If you are having challenges dont hide it, Jesus Died to rescue you and me.
He died that you and I will not perish in our bondage, but that we may be set free through the blood of Jesus Christ.

If you need a change in your situation, pls take a step of faith and pray with us.

Prayer: Father, please forgive me for my sins, wash me in the blood of your son Jesus Christ.
I'm aware that you came to set me free, today i accept your salvation and deliverance.
I declare through the blood of Jesus that "I am free in Jesus name"
Come into my life Lord Jesus and take total control of my life.
I surrender to you Lord in the holy name of Jesus
Amen

After this prayer, the affected should head to a deliverance ministry and undergo deliverance.

The irony is that so many of those laughing at the op on this thread are caged. They have been blinded to the extent that they don't know that they are in serious bondage.

@Ishilove

I'll agree to disagree but please clarify:

Do you believe these non-corporeal spirit spouses engage in actual sex with human beings?

The level of believe in superstition in Nigeria is exponential, even when I was full time Christian,i knew back then that the spirit husband and wife gist was absolute hog wash. For folks that abstain from sexual immorality those dreams are natural ways of relieving sexual tension.

@InesQor,I really appreciate the way you present Christianity... with an illuminati mind

InesQor: @Ishilove

I'll agree to disagree but please clarify:

Do you believe these non-corporeal spirit spouses engage in actual copulation with human beings?

YES ,but not physically. It usually occurs in the spirit realm. Don't forget that the spiritual controls the physical

ajayikayod:

If its scriptural, can u giv us chapter and verse. we can pick it from thr.

My post you quoted, read it VERY S L O W L Y then reply again. If after reading and you don't get it, then I'll help you.

manny4life:

Please ask God to interpret the Bible to you... Where in my post did I say the "devices" are phone? Seek wisdom and understanding and you will receive it.

So what exactly is your point? care to explain how the devil got his hands on a mobile phone?

InesQor: @Ishilove

I'll agree to disagree but please clarify:

Do you believe these non-corporeal spirit spouses engage in actual copulation with human beings?

Demons do have sex with people. For several reason. Anyone who often have sex in the dreams need to address himself spiritually . It doesn't matter whose face they use. It a spiritual set back , such a person needs to address it in prayer or get some help from experienced Christians or ministers.

Ishilove:
YES ,but not physically. It usually occurs in the spirit realm.

I typed copu1ation and it was autocorrected to reproduction.

Alright thanks for your response

Joagbaje:

Demons do have sex with people. For several reason. Anyone who often have sex in the dreams need to address himself spiritually

Do you have direct or indirect Biblical references I can back this up with? Because Jesus indicated otherwise in Mark 12:25

@GeneralShepherd lol me no sabi illuminati o. (P.S. I think its a bunch of make-believe)

escavros: We Easily believe stories of magic, of ritual killings and ritual money making, but yet when confronted with strong tales of the actual demons at work[i][/i], we shrug the tales aside and make a joke of it, meanwhile most of us sending negative responses to a matter as serious as this one presented here are actually going through such demonic manipulations, or maybe worse, but hypocritically deny it to make ourselves look good.

The devil is truly working hard to establish complacency in the church and we are making his job easy by denying the deeds of these demons.

If you are having challenges dont hide it, Jesus Died to rescue you and me.
He died that you and I will not perish in our bondage, but that we may be set free through the blood of Jesus Christ.

If you need a change in your situation, pls take a step of faith and pray with us.

Prayer: Father, please forgive me for my sins, wash me in the blood of your son Jesus Christ.
I'm aware that you came to set me free, today i accept your salvation and deliverance.
I declare through the blood of Jesus that "I am free in Jesus name"
Come into my life Lord Jesus and take total control of my life.
I surrender to you Lord in the holy name of Jesus
Amen

when presented with a case,I believe the rational thing to do is to explore every natural means of solving the mystery before blaming the devil.

I put it to you that it is even absurd trying to even argue with someone that the devil actually sent an sms....one or all parties involved in the story is are suffering from severe psychological stress.

InesQor:

I typed copu1ation and it was autocorrected to reproduction.

Alright thanks for your response

You're welcome.

This world is so complex it is mind boggling, but what lies beyond this world-that aspect of creation that is intangible and invisible to the natural man- is even more astonishing, take it from me.

GeneralShepherd:

So what exactly is your point? care to explain how the devil got his hands on a mobile phone?

Yeah, my point is CRYSTAL CLEAR. When the Bible said "Lest Satan take an advantage of us, do not be "IGNORANT" of the devices of the devil", the Bible made us understand that demonic agents manifest in different forms and ways. You're asking how did the devil get his hands on a mobile phone but you forget quickly that these are mere physical items which are easily manipulated... Smh @ you. Whether you believe or not, that will not bother me, I'm not here to make you understand.

InesQor:
Do you have direct or indirect Biblical references I can back this up with? Because Jesus indicated otherwise in Mark 12:25

@GeneralShepherd lol me no sabi illuminati o. (P.S. I think its a bunch of make-believe)

lol when I said illuminati,I meant a strong intellectual illumination. Good to see another Nigerian that is not on the illuminati band wagon

InesQor:
Do you have direct or indirect Biblical references I can back this up with? Because Jesus indicated otherwise in Mark 12:25

@GeneralShepherd lol me no sabi illuminati o. (P.S. I think its a bunch of make-believe)

Fallen angels had affairs with women in genesis.

Genesis 6:2
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

manny4life:

Please ask God to interpret the Bible to you... Where in my post did I say the "devices" are phone? Seek wisdom and understanding and you will receive it.

U definately dont understand d verse u quoted. And mind u, God is not an interpreter. Wrong words lik ds from believers make me wonder wat exactly they ar learning from churches.

manny4life:

Yeah, my point is CRYSTAL CLEAR. When the Bible said "Lest Satan take an advantage of us, do not be "IGNORANT" of the devices of the devil", the Bible made us understand that demonic agents manifest in different forms and ways. You're asking how did the devil get his hands on a mobile phone but you forget quickly that these are mere [b]physical [/b]items which are easily manipulated... Smh @ you. Whether you believe or not, that will not bother me, I'm not here to make you understand.

No wahala Manny... feel free to believe the devil has a mobile phone now. i am 100% sure na MTN d guy dey use because sincerely I believe MTN is possessed(on a serious note)



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Joagbaje:

Fallen angels had affairs with women in genesis.

Genesis 6:1
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

How did the fallen angels and their offspring survive the flood?

Did they make Noah's ark?

Or were they part of Noah's family?

ajayikayod:

U definately dont understand d verse u quoted. And mind u, God is not an interpreter. Wrong words lik ds from believers make me wonder wat exactly they ar learning from churches.

I meant "the spirit of God" like Geez, do we have to spell things for you guys?

Again, ask the Spirit of God or the Holy Spirit to help you understand the Bible.

Oh yes, I understand the verse I stated, it was you thinking I meant devices like phone.

GeneralShepherd:

How did the fallen angels and their offspring survive the flood?

Did they make Noah's ark?

Or were they part of Noah's family?

They were spirit beings ,so they were industructable. They will be judged last day

Genesis 6:1. Living bible
Now a population explosion took place upon the earth. It was at this time that beings from the spirit world looked upon the beautiful earth women and took any they desired to be their wives.

GeneralShepherd:

No wahala Manny... feel free to believe the devil has a mobile phone now. i am 100% sure na MTN d guy dey use because sincerely I believe MTN is possessed(on a serious note)



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Hehe, I believe what I believe, the devil manifests in different ways, so manifesting in human form with a phone with be a surprise. After all, when Devil wanted to deceive eve, he manifested in form of a serpent, when Devil tempted Jesus, how did devil manifest? Was it not physically? Yes I believe what I want to believe.

manny4life:

My post you quoted, read it VERY S L O W L Y then reply again. If after reading and you don't get it, then I'll help you.

Well ds is ur post

"You're asking me if it's true or not like I was there when it happened, my stand is CRYSTAL CLEAR, things like this happened. I am a witness so I know things like this happened. Even the Bible stated, "Brethren DO NOT be ignorant of the devices of the devil".

U clearly agreed with d Op and even extracted a scripture for him.

Joagbaje:

Fallen angels had affairs with women in genesis.

Genesis 6:2
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

I was waiting for this, bros. If I start on it this thread will derail. If you're interested we can debate it elsewhere?

Just in case you're not interested, my stance is below:

There's little to no reason to accept the sons of God were fallen angels, rather than the descendants of Seth, son of Adam, son of God; intermarrying the descendants of Cain the cursed who wasn't on God's side.

GeneralShepherd:

How did the fallen angels and their offspring survive the flood?

Did they make Noah's ark?

Or were they part of Noah's family?

You forget quickly that the fallen angels were "once upon a time" part of the angels that God created, so no, they can't be destroyed.