Joagbaje: @op

If you're not a christian why should it bother you? If you had asked questions , he would have explained himself based on his scriptural knowledge. And If you feel the man is wrong you should use scriptural knowledge to disprove it.

kambo: give and it you shall receive creeps you out?
at worst its extortion like nigerian police men do on the high way.
at best its - doing the will of God.
I thought you were gonna report some weird incident that raised the hair on your neck!!.
even atheists , have copied the message and preach it too? - see rich dad poor dad for more.
does rich dad poor dad creep you out?! - it was a chart topping best seller?
and his central message was ?!- "give and it shall be given unto you ".

lady gogo:

by Ishola Alolanle Fatai

. . . heard allusions to similar statements in churches I’ve visited over the years, but never have I ever heard it put in such a blatant manner. “Offering determines what will come out?” Really? Are people in church to worship someone they consider a supreme being, or play the lottery?

It can, perhaps, all be blamed on people who are gullible enough to eat up the words of their pastors and ‘fathers’ week after week and do exactly as they say. But there is something terribly upsetting about pastors who see their positions of power as opportunities to play on people’s desperation for ‘blessings’ by telling them that it is somehow related to how much money they give the church.


Source: http://www.ynaija.com/ishola-alolanle-fatai-kicc-totally-creeps-me-out-confessions-of-a-nigerian-atheist/

plaetton:

Inappropriate comparison.
Rich dad poor dad does not ask you to give money to someone for supernatural blessings.

Yes, pentecostal fraudsters use motivational techniques and vocabulary, but they work primarily fear and blackmail as their primary currencies.

yellowpawpaw: The wife of Ash was invited to my church for a programme one time at Dunamis Abuja. After preaching, she told pple to tap into the blessing of what she preached by coming out to give offering and the bigger the offering the bigger the blessing.
Pple were very reluctant to go and drop money at the alter, very few went anyway.
As she made her dramatic exit with her pple, the owner of the church quickly apologised to the congregation and then cleared the air.
I saw d humiliation in her face when few responded to her call. I trust d owner, she will be warned not to try that again.
Me too was just mooping at her.
What a very myopic way to rob pple!

Alfa Seltzer: Anybody who is duped out of his hard earned cash by quotes from books written by cavemen deserves to be duped.

yellowpawpaw: The wife of Ash was invited to my church for a programme one time at Dunamis Abuja. After preaching, she told pple to tap into the blessing of what she preached by coming out to give offering and the bigger the offering the bigger the blessing.

Pple were very reluctant to go and drop money at the alter, very few went anyway.

kambo: Fact is the bible addresses every area of a christians life including giving. The principles a christian has to employ to see results - financially and materially but

kambo: Fact is the bible addresses every area of a christians life including giving. The principles a christian has to employ to see results - financially and materially but
the unbelieving world who want nothing to do with God will focus on any message on giving to criticize and distort.
Money is always on peoples minds , always. People always want more, always. Som body writes a book like kiyosaki did and it tops the chart! But a preacher says giv and he's suddenly a rogue - no christian's will take note.
But the bible says 1.) the wealth of the world belongs to God,
so y cant his children help themselves to som of it?
How many christian billonaires are they?
How many porn star , gambling billonaires are they?
Yes, some christian ministers get dubious and try to line their pockets, som of them literally lack content and only know how to preach a popular message but
tht doesnt mean labelling all preachers as rogues cuz they preach prosperity.
Y shudnt a pastor drive a flashy car? Live in a nice house? Etc
actually on d prosperity scale, the bible says it is NOT UP TO GOD to determine how rich a christian can be! Hello? Its up to the christian. How?
Let me use the share analogy.
If u buy 1000 units of shares , ur dividend wont come immediately but in a few months time,
it will come and it will b proportional to how much you
invested always. What if you bought 1 million units? In 10 years time your shares could hav doubled from the company giving bonus shares , so u cud b worth 20 million units. Dividend on those 20 million units cud run into 100 million (whatever currency its denominated in). Wud then blame the share holder for owning too many shares?
God has set things up so that , the christian determines how much he wishes to sow while God works out the increase? So those going to put n10 in offering will reap multiples of N10 (of course this is all relative) but the thing is most pastors look to d members of their congregation 4 sustenance and so preach a manipulative and compromised message. This doesnt do away with the spiritual laws regarding giving as specified in d bible.

Alfa Seltzer: Anybody who is duped out of his hard earned cash by quotes from books written by cavemen deserves to be duped.

luluosas:
Hello, you are talking business and not bible please, which unfortunately have plunged the church worldwide into commercial centres and avenues, instead of being a prayer and salvation centres, where truth and obedience are taught.
God will definitely judge the churches of this generation.

Joagbaje:
Was the money for her? Did she ask them to give into her account?





And did she go away with the money on the altar.

kambo:
"i am talkg business and not bible" because i mentioned shares. Read things in context b4 u reply.

kambo:

rich dad poor dad teaches the same principle of giving to receive that is in the bible.
As for promising spiritual blessgs, he cant since he doesnt manifestly believe in God.