The thing dey for Bible? Abi we just want add am to scripture?
Shebi Bible don curse anyone wey add anything join God's word

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-148148.128.html
Malama,

Yeah u read internal madicine.but wot I said inially is ubder the anoinnting of the Holy spirit. So wonder wot d talk is abt Postural Hypotension. Dont need to google dat at all. You see the problem with people like you is attempting to link the things of the spiritual with the things of the physical. With the things of God, its no use doing dat cos you only end up confusing yourself more.

Yeah we see things daily and try to understand it from our own point of view but deep down within us we know dat we rnt satisfied with our own expalnation. Or how would you explain how Jesus rose lazarus from his grave(tomb).

Abi you go talk say, Lazzarus wasnt truly dead and his heart went on vacation for a few days or was it hrs? You attempting to expalin dat is difficult. Yeah scientists have made several hypothesis abt tins like this but still peeps arnt convinced

Laceybric,
we are all entitled to our beliefs . From the description of your experience, that was postural hypotension. From the story of Lazarus, that was a MIRACLE. God's ways aren't our ways but everything strange thing that occurs cannot always be attributed to God/Holy Spirit/Anointing.

Well, to him that believes, all things are possible,
What u believe is what u experience, Shikena!

falling under the annointing, it depends on you, your religion and maybe what u've been exposed to. nevertheless, the spirit is still as active as those days, and of course God still hyas those He uses to wrought miracles. Believe!thats all we need

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to me i believe its all lies.in my secondary school days a pastor was invited to my school to pray for us when we wanted write our ssce.and he did all sort of stuffs with those who believed in it.there was this classmate of mine who went out intentionally and didnt fall despite all the pastors effort.THEY'RE ALL LIES.

MALAMA:

Affee,
whatever I read in school and whatever grade I had isn't important. My post was to explain the 'falling under the annointing' of Laceybric. The fact that we see/hear/experience things which we have never experienced before does not always mean it is a supernatural event.
I 'came up' with fainting because that is what happenened to Laceybric from her post. Sorry,I don't fit into the mould of Xtians who see such 'unnatural events' and just say 'Glory,hallelujah etc'. [size=14pt]The fact that such events may be beyond our understanding does not mean they are all spiritual experiences.[/size] Physical experiences occur and it takes those who understand it to enlighten those who do not.

I think you have gat a point.
Falling under the anointing is nothing short of loosing conciousness due to the stimulation of the brain.
It has been proven severally by hypnotists the world over.
_{No offence}, but we africans are way too close minded that we are susceptible to any and everything.
Just like it is with hypnosis, you loose conciousness and fall to the ground. You feel no pain, but you can seriously hurt yourself as has been the case in some gatherings.
These hypnotists cum Pastors exploit the gullibilty to benefit themselves.

First question to all you pro-annointing people;

* What is the significance of falling?? Does it mean your prayers have been answered?? what is the meaning and why is it such a big deal in 21^st century christian assembly.

* Where in the bible did anyone fall under anything??

* Is falling indicative of someone possesed of the evil spirit or someone righteous??


[size=16pt]FALLING UNDER THE ANNOINTING is as a result of "fainting/black out/loss of conciousness" caused by hypnosis brought about by "Mass hysteria" associated with the pentecostal/modern day form of christian religious worship.

The interesting part is that we willing submit ourselves to be hypnotised without even knowing it, and Most of these pastors are ignorant of what they are doing.[/size]


Just because you do not understand the reason for an event does not make it supernatural. Ther are these breed of goats in an asian country that fall under whatever as a result of frequent seizures, does that mean they are being toppled over by spiritual forces??

i agree wit malama & d others,

a few words, christians need to know wat they believe, these frenzies, hmmmmm they are definitely unscriptural,
not all powers r of God,

but pleasantly surprised that so many people know abt these antics of the evil one, so who de full dem churches

The physical contact I know of in the bible as it relates to the anointing has to do with the laying on of hands. anyway some men actually abuse this right given to them by people to have hands of others to be laid on them.
That's why I love Chris.

@ Ess,

You might be born again,attend services, but it is very evident that you need some level of godliness. Your words locate you, never forget that.

True, some Christians do not believe some stuff or the other because they are reasoning it out but the bottom line is that TRUTH cannot be changed by people's beliefs.

Some Christians do not believe in miracles, that does not mean they are no more christians. But that sounds like a life of Contradiction. How can you say you are a christian and you do not believe in miracles, and other things contained in the Gospel? That's amazing! How did you become a Christian? Did you see Jesus face to face and He told you to believe in Him? Did you not get born again by the Word of God that you heard and believed and declared your faith? Having started in Faith (believing in Someone whom you have never seen) how then do you want to end up in UNBELIEF (living by SIGHT)wanting to see things first before believing them?

Without FAITH it is impossible to please God! Even if the Pastor pushed you, go ahead and receive from the Lord and move on. Where is this talk of it being fake and all that going to lead you to.? If it be fake, you would find out in the day of Judgement. But just be sure to receive all that God has for you out here before it is too late.

That you do not believe in FALLING UNDER THE POWER or whatever you chose to call it, does not mean it is not real. Fact is you don't know who you are.You don't know who a Christian is.

The laying on of hands is an important and foundational doctrine of Christianity. Through the laying on of hands a whole lot of 'goodies' are transmitted. It could be healing, health, wealth, the Holy Ghost, etc. I laid hands on my younger brother and he received the Holy Ghost and began speaking in other tongues. That is part of the FOUNDATIONS of Christianity.

But we cannot remain at that level. There are levels in Christianity.

But let me just stop here for now,

I think its is possible to fall under the anointing of the Holy spirit as with God all things are possible. That it may never have happened does not mean it is not possible. Some people think the Bible contains the WHOLE truth but there could be other sources of doctrine outside the bible. They must however not contradict what is in the bible though this requires the Holy Spirit for interpretation. For speaking in tongues, i also believe that its real.

The thing is this things are not the important things and Paul even says this in the bible. There was a time when i fake speaking in tongues but i repented of it and would never fake it again. i have never spoken in real tongues before. As for falling, i also have never fallen. Even when pushed i stand my ground.

I found that Africans have a desire to cling to an religious line of thought as against a rational line. this affects us in many ways. Read 48 Laws of Power (Greene). It is easy to make africans worship you as they long for such cause. Give them such a cause and remove every form of rationality by keeping it vague and unexplainable.

hello!
I am a navy officer from Albania and i attend a Pentecostal church. the topic is very interesting and this is my answer to this question.
There are three possibilities to people falling.
1. The person's flesh is manifesting - this means that the person is under no anointing but he is falling to do like others or to look spiritual or not different from others.
2. The devil is manifesting through the person with like gestures
3.THE HOLY SPIRIT is so strong on the person that he falls under the anointing

When the holy spirit comes on a person there is such an overwhelming experience that all you think and all you want is more of God and Jesus. People are delivered healed and restored and the pastor or the person praying for you is not playing a role at all. its you and the Lord. Spirit to spirit realtionship. I have had cases where the presence of God has been so strong that you dont need to be touched or pushed to fall you just find yourself on the ground, and i am not an irrational person who just accepts anything that comes my way, in fact am rather sceptic in general.

this process doesnt involve any hypnosis, they are two different things. Hypnosis is the capture of the mind, annointing in the spirit has to do with a persons spirit, in the meanwhile your mind is under no one elses control.
God Bless Nigeria and the all the people he made in His image.

I actually read that incident between Ali G and Benny Hinn somewhere. Personally I think majority of the these 'falling under anointing ' are fraudulent.

115 people think its real, Nigerians are stupid, sorry 

There are recorded Biblical accounts of people being overwhelmed during certain supernatural encounters. Peter, Paul and John to mention but a few all had experiences that resemble 'the falling under the power' phenomenon. There is also another recorded incident in John 18:6 where a detachment of soldiers with Judas stumbled and fell before Jesus. However, you will also notice with careful study of your bible that it was not a norm among the new testament Christians. so where did this phenomenon come from?

If you have read about the Los Angeles Azusa street revival of 1908, you'll understand how the 'slain under the power' thing became popular. infact several pentecostal and charismatic practices came after this revival. I do no intend to bore any one with the story so heres my take on the issue:

Yes, I believe one can experience the power of God in an overwhelming manner (not necessarily falling down) but such experiences should not rob the person of his self control or judgement. Sadly what we see today in modern day pentecostalism is nothing more than psychological manipulation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn6FF5nhTSs

We need not say this over and over again but what you experience in most of the churches today is as a result of an induced suggestible state. This is known as the power of suggestion, mind over matter, mesmerism etc all of these methods are employed by these preachers.

Hmm didnt know there was a topic like this. Guess people have been talking about it ever since.

SirJohn:

There are recorded Biblical accounts of people being overwhelmed during certain supernatural encounters. Peter, Paul and John to mention but a few all had experiences that resemble 'the falling under the power' phenomenon. There is also another recorded incident in John 18:6 where a detachment of soldiers with Judas stumbled and fell before Jesus. However, you will also notice with careful study of your bible that it was not a norm among the new testament Christians. so where did this phenomenon come from?

If you have read about the Los Angeles Azusa street revival of 1908, you'll understand how the 'slain under the power' thing became popular. infact several pentecostal and charismatic practices came after this revival. I do no intend to bore any one with the story so heres my take on the issue:

Yes, I believe one can experience the power of God in an overwhelming manner (not necessarily falling down) but such experiences should not rob the person of his self control or judgement. Sadly what we see today in modern day pentecostalism is nothing more than psychological manipulation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn6FF5nhTSs

We need not say this over and over again but what you experience in most of the churches today is as a result of an induced suggestible state. This is known as the power of suggestion, mind over matter, mesmerism etc all of these methods are employed by these preachers.

Just want to resurrect it back alive.

This thread since 2008 and people are still falling under anointing The last time I checked, the people falling under anointing were not Christian but demon possessed. Tell the pastors who practiced falling under the anointing to TAKE AWAY THE CATCHERS BEHIND THOSE THAT ARE FALLING....because the last time I also checked, there were no CATCHERS for those demon possessed people who fell in bible days.

When the real thing happened at Pentecost, Peter did not tumble over Mary nor Matthew over john.

Dey full ground and were so strong that even "Big Show" might not lift any of them.

They got revelations. They spoke in tongues and interpreted it, etc. What can all these people falling everyday do?

Boomark: When the real thing happened at Pentecost, Peter did not tumble over Mary nor Matthew over john.

Dey full ground and were so strong that even "Big Show" might not lift any of them.

They got revelations. They spoke in tongues and interpreted it, etc. What can all these people falling everyday do?

at the bold

Okay disclaimer- I did not watch the video neither did I read the opening thread. I saw a few comments and I just need to get this straight. Do you actually think falling' under the anointing is unreal ?

Falling under anointing is real in the scriptures BUT ONLY DEMON POSSESSED fell under anointing. Christian? NO!

There we go again.Anyone can fall' under the anointing of the Holy Spirit. I was driving home from work just this morning and was listening to precious lamb of God by Kirk Franklin and I could feel the presence of God strongly in that car- i mean it was overwhelming -I was literally at a stop sign and could not move for several minutes. This happens to me especially during worship but this mornings was different and trust me I have heard that song time and time again.Everyone has their own person way of experiencing the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

That's why I have fall in quotations - it's not necessarily falling on the ground.

Knowledge is good but you can't figure out God using logics ( faith is not logical) you have got to experience him and that only comes with having a relationship. Always remember where your knowledge ends is where another persons begins. That has helped me a lot.

You are talking about referencing God in worship, that's not the falling we're talking about. We're referring to the popular Pentecostal 'slain in the spirit'....you know about that?

Referencing God in worship and falling under the anointing of God during worship are two different things. I understand the Pentecostal falling your talking about but there is also falling for Christians under the anointing of God.

I'm talking about the Pentecostal thing. So we're talking about two different things. It's not wise to read people with pre-conceived notions next time.

WAM?:
There we go again.Anyone can fall' under the anointing of the Holy Spirit. I was driving home from work just this morning and was listening to precious lamb of God by Kirk Franklin and I could feel the presence of God strongly in that car- i mean it was overwhelming -I was literally at a stop sign and could not move for several minutes. This happens to me especially during worship but this mornings was different and trust me I have heard that song time and time again.Everyone has their own person way of experiencing the anointing of the Holy Spirit.

That's why I have fall in quotations - it's not necessarily falling on the ground.

Knowledge is good but you can't figure out God using logics ( faith is not logical) you have got to experience him and that only comes with having a relationship. Always remember where your knowledge ends is where another persons begins. That has helped me a lot.

pls lets not discus this as ppl without knowledge, we know that there is original and fake of everything physical and spiritual and we can only attest to our experiences in most situations. The fact that most of what we see churches today are fake or manipulated tro hypnotism does not mean that our physical bodies will not experience the impact of the Spirit when we are in sync with God's Spirit. Must everything in christianity happened in one (pentecost) day? My brethren, 'pentecost' has nothing to do with christianity, it was a mere coincidence that the Holy Spirit came on a pentecost day, now we are in a better possition to experience certain things not experienced by the early christians because of the accumulated knowledge at our disposal as in "Grace and Peace be multiplied on to you through the knowledge(epignosis) of God and of Jesus our Lord.. 2peter1:2. What we dont know lets not condemn.

christemmbassey: pls lets not discus this as ppl without knowledge, we know that there is original and fake of everything physical and spiritual and we can only attest to our experiences in most situations. The fact that most of what we see churches today are fake or manipulated tro hypnotism does not mean that our physical bodies will not experience the impact of the Spirit when we are in sync with God's Spirit. Must everything in christianity happened in one (pentecost) day? My brethren, 'pentecost' has nothing to do with christianity, it was a mere coincidence that the Holy Spirit came on a pentecost day, now we are in a better possition to experience certain things not experienced by the early christians because of the accumulated knowledge at our disposal as in "Grace and Peace be multiplied on to you through the knowledge(epignosis) of God and of Jesus our Lord.. 2peter1:2. What we dont know lets not condemn.

I don't quite get you - it seems to me like we are on the same page. I was not condemning - if I wasn't clear let me clarify. It is very possible to fall both physically and fall - as in being under the power of the Holy Spirit . So if you were saying otherwise please elaborate . Thanks

Goshen360: I'm talking about the Pentecostal thing. So we're talking about two different things. It's not wise to read people with pre-conceived notions next time.

My point exactly. I wasn't reading you with pre- conceived notions and I'm sorry if I came off as that. I'm not a fan of the labeling neither am I a fan of talking down another. We as Christians should have one goal- which is to build and not pull down. Our job is not to be the judge of who does it right or wrong instead it should be one of intimacy with God and helping others achieve that as well. I stick to my point one can fall physically under the anointing of the Holy Spirit - whether Christian or non christian .

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My sister how're you today?,

First you're mixing thing up. The issue of helping others to be lifted up is different from telling the truth as many falsehood had invaded our faith. When we speak the truth against falsehood, that's NOT the same as bring anyone down. Please, don't mix both together. By their fruit we shall KNOW them. So when 'they' begin to manifest these 'fruits', contrary to Christ's fruit, then we should understand that 'they' are those who had invaded our faith to pollute it. Hence, to that effect, we're are instructed to defend or contend for the faith that was handed down to us by Christ through the Apostles.

Two, nobody will argue the 'inspired' falling when in worship or in reference to God by CHRISTIANS at any given time. Check all the scriptures and tell me those you see falling. If it's not the inspired reference in worship by the overwhelming glory, then it will be by someone possessed of demons. Now, I'm not talking about just an ordinary church goer o. You'll NEVER see in the early Christian conducting deliverance session among themselves. The Apostles were not touching people and the people falling like 3-5 times with catcher behind them. Look at what is happening in the Pentecostal sect today in the body of Christ - They put catchers behind people ready to fall. Where do we find those things in scriptures? In most or some case, the person falls like 2-5 times as if the first deliverance didn't cast out the demons or devils.

Those demon possessed that Jesus delivered, you will read it was the demon that knocks them down. I stand by the truth, I have NEVER read where the Holy Spirit knocks a CHRISTIAN down in scriptures ASIDE of our conscious inspired laying down, rolling on the floor when in worship and being overwhelmed by divine presence and in such case, you don't have catchers to catch you. If you know one scripture where the Holy Spirit knocks a CHRISTIAN down ASIDE of 'inspired' reference in worship, I won't mind you show me. There's a difference between original and a camouflage and you will see the difference by the Spirit of God and in the word of God. Well, I'm of the opinion that many things are wrong in the body of Christ and needs to be fixed that we might present ourselves a worthy bride of Christ.

@^^^^

Too many relics, excess baggage, too many false theological issues that need to be cast overboard

because Christ is soon coming and is expecting nothing less than a spotless bride.

He is coming back for a church without spot or wrinkle

^^^ Thank you brother. And we must present ourselves ready as the church (bride) without spot or wrinkle. God bless you brother.