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| Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by shofu2000(m): 5:22pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
Christians pray in the name of Jesus. But many Christians get confuse about who Jesus is. Is He God or a Son differently? Are they two guys up there or just one. If you ask me I will say He is the same person bearing the name Jesus. What do you think or who do you say Jesus is? |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by chrisconnect: 5:29pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
If you are asking the question or at any point have wondered who Jesus is really? Just know that you are not the only person. Its not the first time and yours is not going to be the last such question will come up in the minds of people, including Christians and even born again. It will still continue as along as Jesus still tarry. Find out who Jesus is @ http://connect2chris..com/ |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by quivah(f): 5:34pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
[size=16pt] Jesus is the son of God and not God the son... (dont know how And when God gave birth tho) But Jesus isn't God... To me,, they are diff persons 1+1+1 = 1 doesn't equal to 1=1+1+1 Kapeeesh?! I dont believe in any trinity trash.. Some say Jesus is God manifested in flesh! Huh? Same thing as saying YESHUU is YHWH?!.[/size] |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by peteregwu(m): 6:32pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
THE OP IS A MUSLIM OR JEHOVAH WITNESS AND THAT IS WHY HE IS ASKING SUCH QUESTION. LET ME ADVICE YOU, GO TO YOUR CLOSET WITH SINCERITY AND ASK GOD TO REVEAL TO YOU AND SHOW YOU A SIGN IN DREAM WHO JESUS TRULY IS. ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE WHICH I SO MUCH BELIEVE MORE THAN MY EXISTENCE OR ANY OTHER THING, JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND GOD HIMSELF. John 1:1-3, 10 KJV "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not." Revelation 1:17-18 KJV "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death." Revelation 1:8 KJV "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 22:12-16 KJV "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. [13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. [14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. [15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. [16] I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." Colossians 1:16-18 KJV "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: [17] And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. [18] And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence." Isaiah 7:14 KJV "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel(THE MEANING OF EMMANUEL IS GOD WITH US)" Isaiah 9:6 KJV "For unto us a child(Jesus) is born, unto us a son(Jesus) is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Matthew 1:21 KJV "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins." John 14:7-9 KJV "If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. [8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. [9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then , Shew us the Father?" 1 John 5:19-20 KJV "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. [20] And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." THOSE QUOTATIONS ABOVE IS TO SHOW WHO JESUS IS, LIKE I SAID; HE IS GOD, SON OF GOD AND THE ONLY TRUE SAVIOUR FROM SIN AND THROUGH HIM WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, SO WITHOUT HIM ONE IS DOOMED IN HELL. SO THAT IS THE BIBLE AND THE BELIEVE OF TRUE CHRISTIANS. ANYONE WHO CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIAN AND DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE ABOVE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN BUT A FALSE ONE. AND IF YOU DONT STILL BELIEVE AND IN DOUBT, THEN YOU NEED TO PRAY IN YOUR CLOSET LIKE I SAID EARLIER. PRAY THAT "GOD THAT CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ALL THINGS, I BESEECH YOU REVEAL TO ME WHO JESUS IS IF HE IS THE TRUE WAY OR NOT." BELIEVE ME THE LORD WILL REVEAL HIM TO YOU. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 6:36pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
quivah: [size=16pt] Jesus is the son of God and not God the son... (dont know how And when God gave birth tho)You said Jesus is the son of God... Please can you explain to me how He is the son of God?What is your understanding of the son of God as stated by you.I'll like to learn. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 7:28pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
'When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philipi,he asked his disciples,saying,Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?And they said,some say that thou art John the Baptist:some Elias;and others,Jeremais,or one of the prophets.He saith unto them,But whom say ye that I am?And Simon Peter answered and said,Thou art the Christ,the Son of the living God.And Jesus answered and said unto him,Blessed art thou,Simon Barjona;for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee,but my Father which is heaven.(Matthew 16:13-17). Who Jesus is can only come to a man by revelation.Say in prayer,You are the Only true God and You have sent Jesus.Reveal Who He is to me' ......And you will get to know Him. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by quivah(f): 7:33pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
@thorpido ermm are you sure you wanna learn?.. I don't think so.. Your second post is trying to justify my claim.. Do you need more verse on how Jesus is the son of God and not God,the son?? |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 8:51pm On Oct 25, 2013 |
quivah: @thorpido ermm are you sure you wanna learn?..^^go ahead. As long as the Word is your basis. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by macof(m): 3:19am On Oct 26, 2013 |
Jesus, real name Yeshua was the son of Mary and Joseph the carpenter and he was a Great and wise prophet blessed by God However he was one of the numerous false Messiahs and he blasphemed against God by referring himself as the son of God, and Christians go further in blasphemy to call him a member of the trinity of Yahweh Yahweh is in one unity and singularity, he is the creator of time, space and the entire universe is under his control, he cannot be born or die, he can't have an "only son" because everything and everyone are his sons and daughters. Yeshua was a scholar of the Tanakh and as a child he read the Torah at the synagogue every week. He learnt of the coming of the the Jewish Messiah in the Tanakh and claimed to be that Messiah The criteria for the Messiah according to the prophecies are 1. He must be of paternal descent from King David, through the blood line of king Solomon 2. He is expected to reign as ruler over Israel 3. He is expected to lead the Jews to tgryf rebuild the temple 4. He is expected to reign at a time of peace 5. He is strictly to be the Messiah of Israel not the world Now we all know that yeshua doesn't fit this criteria. The Jews killed yeshua because he blasphemed against Yahweh and christianity is most incompatible with judaism Yeshua is not the Messiah, neither is he so the intermediary for mankind and God. even the Jews reject him as Messiah who would deliver them |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by quivah(f): 6:30am On Oct 26, 2013 |
thorpido: ^^go ahead.he he! ! What should be my basis?? Shouldn't the words be enough? Or Revelation as you'v stated?! Lool oh common,its not that hard.. but seriously before we can con't,where do you stand?? Jesus is the son or God himself? Your posts are getting confusing... Using but while I await your response, Check this; those were Jesus words.. 1 Jn 14:28 …I am going to the father; for he is greater than I. 2. Using Jn 14:1 …believe in God and believe also in me. 3. Using Mk 10:18 Why do you call me good? Jesus asked him. “No one is good except God alone. 4. Using Rev 5:7 The lamb [Jesus] went and took the scroll from the one who sits on the throne [God]. 5. Using Rev 5;13 …To him who sits on the throne and to the lamb, be praise and honor, glory and might forever and ever. If Jesus is OF ONE BEING WITH GOD why would praises be accorded to him and God separately 6. Using Jn 14:31 and Jn 16:13 , That I love the father; that is why I do everything he commands me. …He will not speak on his own authority but on what he HEARS. If you need a revelation to know who Jesus is not not the words,you should need a revelation on whether tithing is right and not the words |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 8:28am On Oct 26, 2013 |
quivah:Lol at tithing!Who's talking about tithing?Okay I get u.You've got issues with that but we ain't talking about that. Good you quoted some scriptures but I hope u're not in the group that picks some and will not accept the others.Tell me what the following scriptures mean... To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,even as I also overcame,and am set down with my Father in his throne(Rev.3:21) And when I saw him,I fell at his feet as dead.And he laid his right hand upon me,saying unto me,Fear not;I am the first and the last:I am he that liveth,and was dead;and behold,I am alive for evermore,Amen;and have the keys of hell and of death(Rev.1:17-18) In the beginning was the Word,and the Word was with God,and the Word was God(John 1:1) For by him were all things created,that are in heaven,and that are in earth,visible and invisible,whether they be thrones,or dominions,or principalities,or powers:all things were created by him,and for him:and he is before all things,and by him all things consist(Colossians 1:16-17). For as the father hath life in himself;so hath he given to the son to have life in himself(John 5:26). Jesus heard that they had cast him out;and when he had found him,he said unto him,Dost thou believe on the Son of God?He answered and said,Who is he,Lord,that I might believe on him?And Jesus said unto him,Thou hast both seen him,and it is he that talketh with thee(John 9:35-37) I and My Father are one(John10:30). |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by chrisconnect: 5:02pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
Waow! I have read so much on this topic. But this is the truth: First the revelation of who Jesus is has come. All that is needed is to catch that revelation, either by conviction by the Spirit bearing witness with your spirit of the truth of Gods word through studying the scriptures carefully and noting the tenses used. Jesus was always speaking in parables and up till today, the Spirit of God is required before some passage of the bible can be known. Do you know the reason, because not all men should know the truth. Jesus said to His disciples, to you it is made that you should know and to others they will just hear and not understand, Back to the topic, God is Supreme Being to all being both visible and invisible, God is Omnipotent, He can be everywhere at the same time. Jesus while on earth manifested as the Son and in Heaven was the father, but at the cross His Spirit left Him and sop He cried out. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are in term of office which one God runs at the same time. The Father is a greater office than that of the Son but the Son's name is higher and the name above every name that the Father Spirit and Son operate in today. Get details and stay on as I bring messages and teaching on Who IS Jesus, How Did He Come, Why Did He Come and To Whom Did He Come. Stay on this blog for the teaching http://connect2chris..com |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by quivah(f): 6:18pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
thorpido: Lol at tithing!Who's talking about tithing?Okay I get u.You've got issues with that but we ain't talking about that.that was an analogy!! . Thorpido:arent you?? Jugding by the verses you dropped Thorpido:arent you proving me right Thorpido:and those were whose words? Jesus! Thorpido:who is the word,Jesus! I agree. In the beginning was the Word. . .and the word was GOD (take note of the word GOD)- This word became flesh and dwelt among man- And the flesh came to his own people, and they recognise HIM not- Jesus christ. . .who in very nature was GOD himself did not equal himself as GOD,- Jesus(a God) in Phil 2:6, chose to take up the nature of a slave and put up the flesh of a human. . . and died on the cross .but this doesnt prove much Thorpido:how does this show Jesus is God.. Last time i checked,Jesus was the word of God and it was through him(word) all these were created( Thorpido: For as the father hath life in himself;so hath he given to the son to have life in himself(John 5:26).brother!!! This is another verse that proves me right! Are you following this argument? Thorpido:this again!!! Which side are you on?? This proved me right again that Jesus aint God,the son! Thorpido:sighs!! Finally....Jesus himself said we are one with him and God,does that make us God or Christ?.. Few other verses in support of my claim; "I can of mine own self do nothing; as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." [John 5:30] In John 5:26, Jesus says, "For as the Father has life in himself; so hath He given to the son to have life in himself". O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." [Matthew 26:39] Deut 6vs4 Mark 10vs 18 John 20vs17 1cor 11vs3 Acts 5vs56 Matthew 16:16-17 John 3:16, 14:28, 20:17. Ephesians 5:10,17. eph 4:1-13 Mal. 2vs10 2nd peter 1-22.. If after this you still dont accept Jesus is not the same as God.. then,you are on your own.. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 7:38pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
^^can I just ask you a question?The life of Jesus,was it human life or not? |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by quivah(f): 9:47pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
thorpido: ^^can I just ask you a question?The life of Jesus,was it human life or not?his life on earth?? Human! |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by larrymoore(m): 10:00pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
Confused kingdom! Men, wise up! |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by tintingz(m): 10:16pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
macof: Jesus, real name Yeshua was the son of Mary and Joseph the carpenter and he was a Great and wise prophet blessed by GodAre you jewish? |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by macof(m): 11:01pm On Oct 26, 2013 |
tintingz: Are you jewish?no I am Yoruba. I just wrote down wat I read and hear from Jews(the most reliable source to learn who Jesus really is) |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 11:44am On Oct 27, 2013 |
quivah:Good.I just wanted to know your position.You believe Jesus existed yet there are some people who don't even believe He existed. A man's belief is just a question of his/her position. You believe He was of God and someone on this thread has even wrote that he was false,a fraud. It's a question of a man's belief,which is no indication or proof of the Truth. Your position for instance may differ from the position of a jew. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 12:43pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
macof: no I am Yoruba.What makes you think the Jews are the most reliable source?They didn't believe and accept Him. Would you say the Aluu community are the most reliable source for the true story of the killing of the 'Aluu boys' as they were the first hand witnesses? |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by tintingz(m): 12:46pm On Oct 27, 2013 |
macof: no I am Yoruba.ok |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by macof(m): 6:56pm On Oct 29, 2013 |
thorpido: What makes you think the Jews are the most reliable source?They didn't believe and accept Him. Here's more on Jesus and his Messiah claims www.nairaland.com/1496957/jewish-messiah |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by thorpido(m): 4:23pm On Oct 30, 2013 |
^^^anyone can write anything. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by FOLYKAZE(m): 4:38pm On Oct 30, 2013 |
thorpido: ^^^anyone can write anything. unfortunately, Jesus didnt die or resurrect according to the bible. His death was edited. Your dream on imaginary saviour is sham |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by peteregwu(m): 7:11pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
PEOPLE THAT DONT BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD ARE UNBELIEVERS. THAT IS THE WAY TO KNOW THEM. THEY CANT UNDERSTAND THE HIBLE RATHER THEY WIOL ARGUE IT LIKE MUSLIMS. DONT ARGUE WITH THEM, RATHER LET THEM BE. |
| Re: Who Do You Say Jesus Is, And Who Really Is Jesus? by macof(m): 8:26pm On Oct 31, 2013 |
peteregwu: PEOPLE THAT DONT BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD ARE UNBELIEVERS. THAT IS THE WAY TO KNOW THEM. THEY CANT UNDERSTAND THE HIBLE RATHER THEY WIOL ARGUE IT LIKE MUSLIMS. DONT ARGUE WITH THEM, RATHER LET THEM BE. Jesus is not a god Jesus is a dead Jewish man |
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