taharqa:

Why do you feel the need to always write you comments in BOLD whenever you want to write here? Why do you always feel the need to SHOUT?? Do you somehow believe that makes the fooolishness you usually spew more Sexy and maybe even a little bit Reasonable?? Cos it doesn't. It only enhances it.

By the way, GEJ was NEVER a part of the Negotiating team that drew out that 2009 Agreement Nor was the one that approved it. I know you can possibly sleep without GEJ Nor properly function without him, but keep him out of this your RAT this morning....

Reptyle: Seems even Mr. president and Mr Senate President were all parties to the 2009 agreement and also played a key role in its review last year.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/ASUU-jonathan-party-pact/

Strange to see all these key players feigning ignorance of the content of that agreement barely 5 years after agreeing to it. Perhaps GEJ did not know at the time that the onus to implement it would fall on him at the time.

Poetic justice

Reptyle: Seems even Mr. president and Mr Senate President were all parties to the 2009 agreement and also played a key role in its review last year.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/ASUU-jonathan-party-pact/

Strange to see all these key players feigning ignorance of the content of that agreement barely 5 years after agreeing to it. Perhaps GEJ did not know at the time that the onus to implement it would fall on him at the time.

Poetic justice

icon8: Talking about what is good for the goose... Prof Adeyeye should also tell us where in the world parliamentarians are paid the huge allowances he earns as a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, or forever remain silent! He who comes to equity must come with clean hands. I also wept when I read our senators' wage bill!

Demdem:

Fool, so in ur daft state writing in bold simply means shouting right? U are so dumb. Anyay, how i choose to write is none of ur business and adds no value to the topic of discussion here. before u found ursef in this community, have always been writing like that and ur stupidity wont stop me from such.

Fool, wasnt Jonathan the VP? wasnt he a former lecturer that was supposed to advise the sick yaradua? Admit it, Jonathan as just a waste throughout this period as he was in bayelsa as Gov.

Again, what about the MOU signed last year with ASUU? Jonathan wasnt in charge right.

Tahat, u are running mad ooo.

yelsew80:
Ignorant people like you are worse problems to the country than the corruption ravaging our society. That agreement was supposedly negotiated over a period of weeks if not months by a committee set up by president Yaradua. He shot himself in the foot by selecting people from the academia to negotiate onbehalf of the FG and the minute an agreement was supposedly reached, vice President Jonathan had no powers to reject the agreement as Pres Yardua had committed the government to agreeing to a "negotiated" outcome. ASUU clearly took advantage of the FG'S naivety and somehow succeeded in getting the agreement signed and thats exactly why they've been insisting on the implementation of the 2009 agreement and nothing else. Airheads like you and Demdemoron should stop peddling petty lies and misinforming people.

yelsew80:
Does anyone still need further proof that this guy is a lost cause? You make it seem plausible that asylum inmates now have access to the internet, your arguments are always an insult to common sense. Tufia!

Reptyle: Seems even Mr. president and Mr Senate President were all parties to the 2009 agreement and also played a key role in its review last year.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/ASUU-jonathan-party-pact/

Strange to see all these key players feigning ignorance of the content of that agreement barely 5 years after agreeing to it. Perhaps GEJ did not know at the time that the onus to implement it would fall on him at the time.

Poetic justice

taharqa:

So you believe what a local ASUU Union leada says, abi? What do you expect him to say b4?

So which role did GEJ play in the 2009 agreement?? As Negotiator Or the guy that gave the approval?? What powers do you think a VP has in rejecting or approving an Agreement that his principal wanted signed??

In any case, you seem to have completely 'forgotten' the main issue here: that Agreement CANNOT be implemented the way it is. Just IMPOSSIBLE. So what do we do??

alubeze1: The demands are outrageous, no doubt. But if our political leaders are the highest paid in the world, then why can't our educationist also be the highest paid in world? After all, education is the bedrock of every society, and if the workers are paid well, they will be motivated to teach well. All thesame, ASUU and fg should renegotiate.

taharqa:

So you believe what a local ASUU Union leada says, abi? What do you expect him to say b4?

So which role did GEJ play in the 2009 agreement?? As Negotiator Or the guy that gave the approval?? What powers do you think a VP has in rejecting or approving an Agreement that his principal wanted signed??

In any case, you seem to have completely 'forgotten' the main issue here: that Agreement CANNOT be implemented the way it is. Just IMPOSSIBLE. So what do we do??

yelsew80: What again is your username? Ok Reptile right? What's the average size of the brain of a Reptile? No wonder! Perhaps you should consider merging your head with Demdemoron's maybe you'll finally get a brain that'll function like a human's!

KwoiZabo: In as much as i don't support the huge pay of our political office holders, its very risky and expensive to run for political office in Nigeria so their pay is somewhat justified, moreso if these lecturers are not satisfied, they could also take the risk and run for politics so they too can get jumbo pay, nobody is holding them. The higher he risk the more the reward. moreso if we spend all the money on university which company will graduates work when power supply is still comatose.

yelsew80: What again is your username? Ok Reptile right? What's the average size of the brain of a Reptile? No wonder! Perhaps you should consider merging your head with Demdemoron's maybe you'll finally get a brain that'll function like a human's!

Reptyle:



Dude!!! Like seriously That was the best comeback you could muster Clown!!!

Guy, you and I could have a very sane argument if you would cut back on your penchant for insults against people who don't share your opinion. It really isn't my style to engage in insults as it totally vitiates the merits of arguments. I take back my insult and apologise. But please DO NOT INSULT ME AGAIN in response to my post on this forum. I give much more than I get.

A foul mouth doesn't make you sound intelligent. Just exposes you as someone who lacks the marble to hold an argument and chooses to resort to bullying to mask their insecurities. I will not be bullied by you or any other person on this forum.

Have fun.

take dat: “As a professor at the Duquesne
University USA, Professor Adeyeye
enjoyed flexible single and family
healthcare coverage, including vision and
dental insurance, disability benefits and
life insurance, tuition remission for
employees and family members,
retirement savings plan with a generous
eight per cent university contribution for
employees with immediate vesting
schedule, family leave, paid time off for
vacation and holidays and unpaid time for
personal leave of absence, comprehensive
employee training programmes which
promote professional development,
access to a recreation centre and wellness
programme.


“The question Prof Adeyeye should answer
is, where in Nigeria does a professor enjoy
all these with conducive learning
environment? What is the ratio of students
to a lecturer in Nigerian universities?
Where else in the world will a professor
supervise up to 35 students in a session?”

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/ASUU-jonathan-party-pact/



People like President Jonathan as the Vice President to Yaradua, who perused the agreement and asked the late Yaradua to sign on every page of the document, including Prof Adeyeye who enjoys the satanic legislative jumbo pay that he uses in training his children abroad lacks the credibility to criticize ASUU. Once you become a politician in Nigeria, and join the thieving ruling class, your conscience is automatically put up for Sale.

Reptyle:



Dude!!! Like seriously That was the best comeback you could muster Clown!!!

Guy, you and I could have a very sane argument if you would cut back on your penchant for insults against people who don't share your opinion. It really isn't my style to engage in insults as it totally vitiates the merits of arguments. I take back my insult and apologise. But please DO NOT INSULT ME AGAIN in response to my post on this forum. I give much more than I get.

A foul mouth doesn't make you sound intelligent. Just exposes you as someone who lacks the marble to hold an argument and chooses to resort to bullying to mask their insecurities. I will not be bullied by you or any other person on this forum.

Have fun.

yelsew80: Apples and Oranges. Nigeria's tertiary education system has a problem that's a fact no one can deny, how does pumping money to "spoil" lecturers solve the problem?

Wesfool, this was what the senator said:

saying there is nowhere in the world where such allowances demanded are paid to lecturers.

However it has been shown now that he personally benefitted from a range of special benefits and allowances as a professor in US as against hat he claimed. Why dont u use ur brain for once


For the upteenth time I'll repeat, Jonathan had little or no role in the 2009 negotiations.

u obviously dont know. again for the upteenth time, Jonathan reviewed what gamaliel committe did and agreed with it


[s]Yaradua believed he'd assembled a team of technocrats that would bring out a fair agreement when he assembled the Onosode committee that negotiated onbehalf of the government. One can be forgiven for signing an agreement that on the surface appeared to have been so painstakingly put together even though it has turned out to be a sham! The question you and the other Jonathan indicters are yet to answer is why the Yaradua government never bothered to start the implementation.[/s]

why do u keep dodging the fact that Jonathan again agreed with the lecturers and last year signed an MOU ith them re-instating his commitment in Fulfilling the signed agreement. leave the late Yaradua alone. he is dead, lets talk about the living.

yelsew80: Apples and Oranges. Nigeria's tertiary education system has a problem that's a fact no one can deny, how does pumping money to "spoil" lecturers solve the problem?
For the upteenth time I'll repeat, Jonathan had little or no role in the 2009 negotiations. Yaradua believed he'd assembled a team of technocrats that would bring out a fair agreement when he assembled the Onosode committee that negotiated onbehalf of the government. One can be forgiven for signing an agreement that on the surface appeared to have been so painstakingly put together even though it has turned out to be a sham! The question you and the other Jonathan indicters are yet to answer is why the Yaradua government never bothered to start the implementation.

yelsew80: Apology accepted and please accept mine also. I guess it was the frustration of having to deal once again with the perpetual foolishness of Demdemoron that got me riled up, in retrospect i shouldnt have called you names and i apologise.

wesfool, was Jonathan high on kaikai when he promised to abide by the signed agreement and even signed an MOU to that effect? This happened just last year and surely he was in control.
ur frustration will surely lead u to ur early grave. Demdem isnt to be blamed for that. Demdem continues to enjoy life

KwoiZabo: In as much as i don't support the huge pay of our political office holders, its very risky and expensive to run for political office in Nigeria so their pay is somewhat justified, moreso if these lecturers are not satisfied, they could also take the risk and run for politics so they too can get jumbo pay, nobody is holding them. The higher he risk the more the reward. moreso if we spend all the money on university which company will graduates work when power supply is still comatose.

take dat: @Wesly80 is a miserable pig. His new found love is in Blackmailing ASUU.


-Can the President together with other ruling elite work for 4 years without receiving their allowances?

-Can a nation develop when her educational sector is in a state of near comatose? Why do we have much in our excess crude account, while what should be the bedrock of our sustainable development is in shambles? Yet lawmakers like Prof Adeyeye are the first to tell that Nigerian graduates are unemployable.

-We are in a nation where government officials in cahoort with their friends outside of government mismanaged and frittered away over N2trillion subsidy fund, with none of them in jail. Yet, we complain that N500billion a year to develop our university system is outrageous.

-Unconstitutional offices such as that of the First Lady dip hands into public funds to maintain their lavish lifestyles, but lecturers are asked to be considerate.

-The President and state Governors have unaccounted security votes running into tens of billions of naira, but lecturers are asked to be patient.

-

Reptyle:

See!!! That didn't hurt now did it? I know it was hard responding to another differing opinion without resorting to insults, but u did it!!!

For the sake of argument again let me agree with you that GEJ had no input to the 2009 agreement and was also arm twisted into advising his principal to sign off an agreement because he was "powerless" as Vice President.

In 2012, GEJ was the President when he endorsed an MOU to implement the same agreement. Why did he do that seeing that he now had a second chance to look at the said agreement through the eyes of a president?

Demdem:

wesfool, was Jonathan high on kaikai when he promised to abide by the signed agreement and even signed an MOU to that effect? This happened just last year and surely he was in control.
ur frustration will surely lead u to ur early grave. Demdem isnt to be blamed for that. Demdem continues to enjoy life

yelsew80:
1) The said allowance you're referring to is disputed so it's not yet "their" allowance. Agreed?

STFU. The earned allowance isnt disputed. The FG agreed to pay it as a result of them agreeing and signing to it. They even signed an MOU to that effect. Its only disputed in ur skewed brain. besides u are aware that the FG has paid part of it which was the 30Billion released earlier. If it was disputed, why pay part of it?

3) The issue is not about spending billions to fund education - No one would have a problem with that. The issue is funneling nearly the total education budget to tertiary education,

And who decides who gets what in a national budget? when the agreement was made, was this year budget ready? why was the details of this agreement not reflecting in this budget? why is a supplementary budget not sent to NASS to cater for this shortfall?
What is wrong if e allocate 20% of our allocation to Education at all levels? are we even up to 10%?

4) I'm fighting ASUU'S perceived greed, you're free to fight the first lady's. Start by opening a thread dedicated to it as I have and you'll be on your way, dont muddle up issues.

The same greed Jonathan agreed to and promised to nuture. Oponu.