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Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:02pm On Nov 02, 2013
I want to test the extent you jesus-worshippers/Ka'aba Worshippers lie to.


Please write down your definition of Idolatory as practiced by Tribal Religion.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 1:04pm On Nov 02, 2013
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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by engrtee(f): 3:45pm On Nov 02, 2013
Pagan9ja picks up a stone,carves an image out of it and says


"mr stone, you are my god , you created me,you created the world. I worship you, i adore you, i bow before you. For your sake i live and i dedicate my life to you."



that is idol worship
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by macof(m): 12:52am On Nov 03, 2013
engrtee: Pagan9ja picks up a stone,carves an image out of it and says


"mr stone, you are my god , you created me,you created the world. I worship you, i adore you, i bow before you. For your sake i live and i dedicate my life to you."



that is idol worship
And this post is lack of knowledge and complete foolishness.

Pls more sensible definitions.

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:21am On Nov 03, 2013
engrtee: Pagan9ja picks up a stone,carves an image out of it and says


"mr stone, you are my god , you created me,you created the world. I worship you, i adore you, i bow before you. For your sake i live and i dedicate my life to you."



that is idol worship

an iota of sense not found here. Some people can be so foolish.

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 7:57am On Nov 03, 2013
They are those that call other thing for Help execpt God. No one can help or save execpt God. Thats why its the Greatest Sin. When he did something and you went ahead to give the thanks and Glory to one stupid idol or what God has created.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:28am On Nov 03, 2013
oluface: They are those that call other thing for Help execpt God. No one can help or save execpt God. Thats why its the Greatest Sin. When he did something and you went ahead to give the thanks and Glory to one stupid idol or what God has created.

And Jesus is God? Remember he is intermediary between you and God.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by ubl6: 10:01am On Nov 03, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:
I want to test the extent you jesus-worshippers/Ka'aba Worshippers lie to.


Please write down your definition of Idolatory as practiced by Tribal Religion.
First, Muslims are not ‘Ka'aba Worshippers’! We worship the only One True God, the Creator of the Universe called ‘Allah’ in Arabic. Ka'aba is just a ‘Qibla’ — a direction which all muslims face while observing their prayers. Masjid al-Haram (‘the sacred mosque’ aka ka'aba) is just a Masjid (mosque) like all other Masajid (mosques) globally though the most important of them, being the ‘first house (of worship) appointed for mankind’ -[Sura 3:96.] So ka'aba IS NOT AN IDOL but a mosque! Infact during the early days of prophet Muhammad's mission, Muslims used to face Masjid al Aqsa (‘the farthest mosque’ in Jerusalem) during their prayers. This continued until when a revelation came asking the prophet to turn his face towards the sacred mosque in Makkah:
“We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens: now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction...” [Sura 2:144]. The al Aqsa mosque (in Jerusalem) to this day remains the third holiest site in Islam. First one is Masjid al Haram (the Sacred Mosque) in Makkah City and the second one is Masjid an Nabawi (the Prophet’s Mosque) in Madinah City, in Saudi Arabia.
Secondly, in Islam idolatory means worshipping anyone/anything in addition to or other than Allah. Whatever is worshipped whether it be Angels, prophets (e.g Jesus or Muhammad) or saints or animals or any objects, these are all idolatory. In Islam we say La ila ha illal lah — meaning ‘there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah’. This is called Tawhid. And even if people worship Allah but set partners to Him thinking that those partners can intercede for them or worship Allah ‘through’ them or beleive that those partners share in the divinity of Allah —these are all idol worshippers! Lastly, in Islam idolatory is the only unpardonable sin in the sight of Allah:
"Verily, Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the path)." [Sura 4:116]
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by engrtee(f): 10:59am On Nov 03, 2013
macof:
And this post is lack of knowledge and complete foolishness.

Pls more sensible definitions.


smh, those who are unable to make meaning out of that are more foolish and senceless.

Jesus spoke in parables to convey his message. Must i define it literally for logical atheist in nairaland to understand. Cant they use their brain to sieve the meaning.


Oh, i forgot.the bible called them fools
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by harbiola1(m): 11:01am On Nov 03, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:
I want to test the extent you jesus-worshippers/Ka'aba Worshippers lie to.


Please write down your definition of Idolatory as practiced by Tribal Religion.
this's serious, pagan wants associates grin
PAGAN 9JA:
I want to test the extent you jesus-worshippers/Ka'aba Worshippers lie to.


Please write down your definition of Idolatory as practiced by Tribal Religion.
this's serious, pagan wants associates.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 11:01am On Nov 03, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

And Jesus is God? Remember he is intermediary between you and God.
And you have just commited an unknown sin. How can you compare human with God. God is incomparable. Jesus is not God and not an Intermediary between human and God. Why do u think human need intermediary before we can talk to him. Do bother to give me and unreasonable answer because we all knw that God is not Deaf, Blind for him to need an intermediary. Haba. Stop saying this. God even feel happy when you call him direct and Not through anything because even if you ask an idol worshiper they will tell you the same thing so you guys are not a step away for Babalawo.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 11:49am On Nov 03, 2013
For me, idolatory is an act of giving the worship due to the Creator of us all to any one or thing.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by macof(m): 9:19pm On Nov 03, 2013
striktlymi: For me, idolatory is an act of giving the worship due to the Creator of us all to any one or thing.

But pagans don't give the worship due to the creator to any other thing.

You muslims and Christians mis-understand us.

It's slander and treason.

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by ghostofsparta(m): 9:50pm On Nov 03, 2013
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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by ghostofsparta(m): 9:51pm On Nov 03, 2013
ubl6:
First, Muslims are not ‘Ka'aba Worshippers’! We worship the only One True God, the Creator of the Universe called ‘Allah’ in Arabic. Ka'aba is just a ‘Qibla’ — a direction which all muslims face while observing their prayers. Masjid al-Haram (‘the sacred mosque’ aka ka'aba) is just a Masjid (mosque) like all other Masajid (mosques) globally though the most important of them, being the ‘first house (of worship) appointed for mankind’ -[Sura 3:96.] So ka'aba IS NOT AN IDOL but a mosque! Infact during the early days of prophet Muhammad's mission, Muslims used to face Masjid al Aqsa (‘the farthest mosque’ in Jerusalem) during their prayers. This continued until when a revelation came asking the prophet to turn his face towards the sacred mosque in Makkah:
“We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens: now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction...” [Sura 2:144]. The al Aqsa mosque (in Jerusalem) to this day remains the third holiest site in Islam. First one is Masjid al Haram (the Sacred Mosque) in Makkah City and the second one is Masjid an Nabawi (the Prophet’s Mosque) in Madinah City, in Saudi Arabia.
Secondly, in Islam idolatory means worshipping anyone/anything in addition to or other than Allah. Whatever is worshipped whether it be Angels, prophets (e.g Jesus or Muhammad) or saints or animals or any objects, these are all idolatory. In Islam we say La ila ha illal lah — meaning ‘there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah’. This is called Tawhid. And even if people worship Allah but set partners to Him thinking that those partners can intercede for them or worship Allah ‘through’ them or beleive that those partners share in the divinity of Allah —these are all idol worshippers! Lastly, in Islam idolatory is the only unpardonable sin in the sight of Allah:
"Verily, Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the path)." [Sura 4:116]

fairy tales^
btw are you an arab or an African?

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:04pm On Nov 03, 2013
oluface: And you have just commited an unknown sin. How can you compare human with God. God is incomparable. Jesus is not God and not an Intermediary between human and God. Why do u think human need intermediary before we can talk to him. Do bother to give me and unreasonable answer because we all knw that God is not Deaf, Blind for him to need an intermediary. Haba. Stop saying this. God even feel happy when you call him direct and Not through anything because even if you ask an idol worshiper they will tell you the same thing so you guys are not a step away for Babalawo.

I dont know where to start with you cuz first you ignorant, two you brainwashed and finally you foolish liar.

You said Jesus is not God....pls what does trinity mean or what did Jesus meant when he said he and God is one?

Secondly you said Jesus is not intermediary.
What is the meaning of this bible verse? 1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and one Mediator between God and man, which is the man Christ Jesus,

or you dont know what mediator mean? Guy you dumb seriously.

And why is Jesus mentioned in your prayer....why not directed to God as you dont need mediator?


Come again with white lies. The linen you put on got dirt and babalawo are better than you cuz they aint ignorant or lying.

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 8:57am On Nov 04, 2013
macof:

But pagans don't give the worship due to the creator to any other thing.

You muslims and Christians mis-understand us.

It's slander and treason.

Anyone can give the worship due to the creator to someone or something else. The definition I gave is not just peculiar to pagans. It actually cuts across.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 9:31am On Nov 04, 2013
Instead of u debating what idol is.... we have dictionary and wikipedia why bother asking 'mumu' questions for debate....
Come on, open a thread that will preach the following.
1.What i can gain if i serve your god
2.Wat i will lose if i did not serve your god
3. What has your god has in plan for my future.
4. Where does this god say i will go after my death and why
5.If there is no place why will i serve him
6. Can he die for me.
7. Can he forgive me without pouring oil on it.
8. Why i must make a representation of your god in my house
9. Why i must agree to sacrifice human to this gods
10. Why it is only your god we can kill human for to get money..
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:25am On Nov 04, 2013
Divepen: Instead of u debating what idol is.... we have dictionary and wikipedia why bother asking 'mumu' questions for debate....
Come on, open a thread that will preach the following.

Finally you display your ignorance publicly and that you dont even know the surface the OP is standing.


1.What i can gain if i serve your god

Yep they have told you about juicy heaven where you wont suffer. Why cant you go there by dying?

2.Wat i will lose if i did not serve your god

you were feed with hell threat. We know that.

3. What has your god has in plan for my future.

Your God haven't made it perfect? Why amendment and another plan for future?

4. Where does this god say i will go after my death and why

Dust, heaven and hell.....the lies you were feed with.

5.If there is no place why will i serve him

Because he is hungry for your worship....failure to feed him through worship will lead you to hellfire.

6. Can he die for me.

Your God die? Gaddem so why spreading a dead god gospel?

7. Can he forgive me without pouring oil on it.

Can you be bless without paying tithe? Who is going to forgive your God for the atrocities he caused?

8. Why i must make a representation of your god in my house

Jesus status, jesus cross in necklace and the calender in your room is what? Why do you put your bible under your pillow.....why do you face/hold bible while praying?

9. Why i must agree to sacrifice human to this gods

The same reason Jesus was slaughtered like animal. And a soldier of God sacrifice his daughter as burnt offering to God.

10. Why it is only your god we can kill human for to get money..

completely brainwashed. Why is that your religious leader engaged in crusade for power, money and fame? Why is your pastor making money out of people ignorance?


All you dropped is still in the box of christianity. Ignorance is bad but been proud of it is stupidity.

Lets see how you move ahead.

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 10:42am On Nov 04, 2013
Mr.Folykaze....
You have just told me what they told us but you did not tell me answer my question
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:53pm On Nov 04, 2013
Divepen: Mr.Folykaze....
You have just told me what they told us but you did not tell me answer my question

The answer is there....look beyond what you see.

Remove the dust in your eye before removing that of others. What you wrote is an open insult to christianity. And it reveal you are ignorant about it while trying to insult other people's belief. Christianity is a reformed paganism........from the stone you throw.

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 1:01pm On Nov 04, 2013
Can you just give a straight and humble answer
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by macof(m): 2:14pm On Nov 04, 2013
striktlymi:

Anyone can give the worship due to the creator to someone or something else. The definition I gave is not just peculiar to pagans. It actually cuts across.

so christians and muslims can be guilty of your definition of idolatry?
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 2:20pm On Nov 04, 2013
macof:

so christians and muslims can be guilty of your definition of idolatry?

Yes!
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by macof(m): 2:44pm On Nov 04, 2013
Divepen: Instead of u debating what idol is.... we have dictionary and wikipedia why bother asking 'mumu' questions for debate....
Come on, open a thread that will preach the following.
1.What i can gain if i serve your god
2.Wat i will lose if i did not serve your god
3. What has your god has in plan for my future.
4. Where does this god say i will go after my death and why
5.If there is no place why will i serve him
6. Can he die for me.
7. Can he forgive me without pouring oil on it.
8. Why i must make a representation of your god in my house
9. Why i must agree to sacrifice human to this gods
10. Why it is only your god we can kill human for to get money..
am nt pagan9ja. He'll reply u in his own religious belief but for now....
1. You gain favor and help with any difficulty u face in life
2. Honestly you wouldn't lose anything just because you refuse to honor God, my God isnt hungry for worship, he doesnt command any human to worship him. All you have to do in life is to follow ur conscience and balance ur good with the evil of ur heart, if you dont you would lose everything.
3. The universe is eternal and re-occuring. Our human minds have far lower consciousness than in the afrterlife, as such only Ifa and Ori can help us understand what the future holds for us.
4. You return to him in heaven because that is your home
5. No one is forcing u to serve him, your service to God doesn't change who he is.
6. God cannot die
7. God holds no grudge, the basis for forgiveness is in the law of karma(for every good u do, good shall return to you. And any evil u do, evil shall follow u)
8. you dont have to
9. No one sacrifices humans to any god
10. No one kills humans for the gods.
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by macof(m): 3:10pm On Nov 04, 2013
striktlymi:

Yes!
explain
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 3:15pm On Nov 04, 2013
Macof! Macof!! That is baseless and cannot save a soul please try something better
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by macof(m): 3:28pm On Nov 04, 2013
Divepen: Macof! Macof!! That is baseless and cannot save a soul please try something better
save ur soul from wat dude No one is after ur soul.

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:41pm On Nov 04, 2013
Divepen: Can you just give a straight and humble answer

your question is the silliest thing directed at me. You were beaten with your plank....

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Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by basilico: 5:53pm On Nov 04, 2013
Liar liar masjid al aqsa means furthest mosque. When your prophet rode the mythical horse to al aqsa the furthest mosque was only a few miles away. Not 900 miles where the ruins of the Jewish temple stood then. Al aqsa is not at the Temple mount and has never been. Muslims always took over other religious sites and claimed them as their own. Eg Cordoba in spain, haga sofia in turkey and even indian temples. Prove me wrong.
ubl6:
First, Muslims are not ‘Ka'aba Worshippers’! We worship the only One True God, the Creator of the Universe called ‘Allah’ in Arabic. Ka'aba is just a ‘Qibla’ — a direction which all muslims face while observing their prayers. Masjid al-Haram (‘the sacred mosque’ aka ka'aba) is just a Masjid (mosque) like all other Masajid (mosques) globally though the most important of them, being the ‘first house (of worship) appointed for mankind’ -[Sura 3:96.] So ka'aba IS NOT AN IDOL but a mosque! Infact during the early days of prophet Muhammad's mission, Muslims used to face Masjid al Aqsa (‘the farthest mosque’ in Jerusalem) during their prayers. This continued until when a revelation came asking the prophet to turn his face towards the sacred mosque in Makkah:
“We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens: now shall We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction...” [Sura 2:144]. The al Aqsa mosque (in Jerusalem) to this day remains the third holiest site in Islam. First one is Masjid al Haram (the Sacred Mosque) in Makkah City and the second one is Masjid an Nabawi (the Prophet’s Mosque) in Madinah City, in Saudi Arabia.
Secondly, in Islam idolatory means worshipping anyone/anything in addition to or other than Allah. Whatever is worshipped whether it be Angels, prophets (e.g Jesus or Muhammad) or saints or animals or any objects, these are all idolatory. In Islam we say La ila ha illal lah — meaning ‘there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah’. This is called Tawhid. And even if people worship Allah but set partners to Him thinking that those partners can intercede for them or worship Allah ‘through’ them or beleive that those partners share in the divinity of Allah —these are all idol worshippers! Lastly, in Islam idolatory is the only unpardonable sin in the sight of Allah:
"Verily, Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the path)." [Sura 4:116]
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by Nobody: 6:00pm On Nov 04, 2013
FOLYKAZE:

your question is the silliest thing directed at me. You were beaten with your plank....
Everything Macof said cannot save a soul from being lost...a man that want to serve gods must have reasons....

You,instead of answering my questions,were ranting and raking ...so how would i say you have given me an answer
Re: Christians/muslims - Define "Idol Worship" - By Pagans by FOLYKAZE(m): 6:07pm On Nov 04, 2013
Divepen:
Everything Macof said cannot save a soul from being lost...a man that want to serve gods must have reasons....

You,instead of answering my questions,were ranting and raking ...so how would i say you have given me an answer

christinsanity doctrine has eaten up your head. Do you answer the OP? Go back and do or shut the hell

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