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Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by biafrakwenu(m): 12:04pm On Nov 03, 2013
Is Virgin Mary omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, if yes then she is definitely God, but if no, then how is she able to hear and process the prayers of millions of people praying through her at the same time?
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by GentleMimi: 1:07pm On Nov 03, 2013
There is no place in the bible where we are told to pray in the name of the Virgin Mary,there is no place stating that she is omnipresent.I really d'nt know the reason why catholics pray in her name,or through her.But i believe one of them might enlighten us.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by thorpido(m): 2:49pm On Nov 03, 2013
No she is not.she cannot even hear the prayers people offer to her.She is not in such a position.
Jesus said when people die,they become like(not that they are)angels in heaven(Matt.22:30)
Only God and angels can hear prayers with the angels carrying out instructions.
No dead man or woman is in a position to hear prayers.

Jesus is the only mediator between God and man(1 Timothy 2:5).

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Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 9:53am On Nov 04, 2013
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

We believe that Mary and the Saints are like him for they now see Him as He is.

Amen amen!
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by thorpido(m): 10:29am On Nov 04, 2013
Mary and the saints(saints are those who have died and those of us in Christ who are here on the earth) are like Jesus.

Mary however does not have the authority of Jesus and cannot play His role.The only mediator for man on the earth is Jesus Christ.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 10:40am On Nov 04, 2013
thorpido: [url][/url]Mary and the saints(saints are those who have died and those of us in Christ who are here on the earth) are like Jesus.

1st John is not talking about you. It calls you Children of God. It is talking about those to whom God has been revealed. They see him as he is. THEY are like him.
thorpido:
Mary however does not have the authority of Jesus and cannot play His role.The only mediator for man on the earth is Jesus Christ.

Amen! Amen! We Catholics agree with this.

There is only one mediator between man and God, we are all mediators (not just Mary) for our fellow man when we pray for them or intercede for them as the Bible commands.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 10:45am On Nov 04, 2013
In Jesus' parable, the rich man was in hades and Abraham was in heaven. How did Abraham hear his prayer to him?
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 10:49am On Nov 04, 2013
thorpido: No she is not.she cannot even hear the prayers people offer to her.She is not in such a position.
Jesus said when people die,they become like(not that they are)angels in heaven(Matt.22:30)
Only God and angels can hear prayers with the angels carrying out instructions.
No dead man or woman is in a position to hear prayers.

Jesus is the only mediator between God and man(1 Timothy 2:5).

You admit that Saints are like Angels.

You say that Angels can hear prayers.

You say that Saints cannot hear prayers.

It seems that you are confused.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 10:51am On Nov 04, 2013
italo: In Jesus' parable, the rich man was in hades and Abraham was in heaven. How did Abraham hear his prayer to him?

Maybe he had this
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 11:05am On Nov 04, 2013
Alfa Seltzer:

Maybe he had this

@ thorpido, did he have that?
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by Syncan(m): 11:26am On Nov 04, 2013
italo:

@ thorpido, did he have that?

I bet his battery has gone flat.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by Syncan(m): 11:28am On Nov 04, 2013
For any one who wish to know.In line with what Italo had posted earlier, It is scriptural that those with God share in certain aspects of Him. Note that any of these attributes such as Omnipotence,Omnipresence, Omniscience are God's alone and His to give. Believing that God cannot make another Omnipresent, is already a doubt on the omnipotence of God.

Scriptural backing could be found in these:

1.Even while in this mortal frame, we share in these aspects to the level that God allows and to which our mortal limitations could tolerate. Our Lords speech in Matt 17:20, "And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you". If nothing is impossible to any one, is that not what omnipotence is? However note that it is your level of cooperation with the omnipotent God that grants you that. Bi-location is a share in omnipresence for those still limited by this flesh, degrees vary according to the measure God grants the individual. You may want to Google and read about Padre Pio.

2. For one who is no longer in the mortal frame, but is with God. These attributes come to the most perfect level it can be, for the cooperation of this individual is perfect and found worthy of the heavenly Jerusalem(Heb 12:22-23). So those who live with God share in a more sublime manner, these attributes of God. I shall give support for angels and for saints as seen in the passage above as inhabitants of Heaven with God.

2a Angels. Lk 15:10 "Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth". It matters not where the sinner is, in a hole,in the mountain, in the sea, on land,in public, in secret etc. If he repents, there is immediately joy among the angels that is Omniscience and Omnipresence shared by the angels. Again because of their cooperation with the Omniscient and Omnipresent God.

2b. Saints. 1cor 13:12 " For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." St. Paul makes it clear here that earthly limitation to his knowledge will cease in heaven as he will be fully united to the all Knowing(Omniscient) God. He will know even as much as he is known!
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by thorpido(m): 3:04pm On Nov 04, 2013
italo: In Jesus' parable, the rich man was in hades and Abraham was in heaven. How did Abraham hear his prayer to him?
I won't bother arguing with you since you have resulted to insults.
There are a lot of kids on this forum and i guess you are one of them.Insults are for kids.

You said Jesus' parable.Do you know the meaning of a parable?
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by thorpido(m): 3:13pm On Nov 04, 2013
italo:

You admit that Saints are like Angels.

You say that Angels can hear prayers.

You say that Saints cannot hear prayers.

It seems that you are confused.
If you read english well,you wouldn't have to write this.'Saints are like angels' does not mean they are angels!Chimpanzees are like humans does not mean they are humans!

You're the one who is confused here.

Like i said,since you have resulted into insults i won't go on with you.Insults are for kids.I ain't one.

I'm outta 'ere.Unfollows thread.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by amaralizzy40y: 3:18pm On Nov 04, 2013
italo: 1
John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been
revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we
shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

We believe that Mary and the Saints are like him for they now see Him as
He is.

Amen amen!
follow the bible and not your believe.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 4:03pm On Nov 04, 2013
thorpido: I won't bother arguing with you since you have resulted to insults.
There are a lot of kids on this forum and i guess you are one of them.Insults are for kids.

You said Jesus' parable.Do you know the meaning of a parable?

Dear Adult, I cant remember insulting you.

I know the meaning of "parable."

Do you know who told the parable?
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 4:08pm On Nov 04, 2013
thorpido: If you read english well,you wouldn't have to write this.'Saints are like angels' does not mean they are angels!Chimpanzees are like humans does not mean they are humans!

You're the one who is confused here.

Like i said,since you have resulted into insults i won't go on with you.Insults are for kids.I ain't one.

I'm outta 'ere.Unfollows thread.

I said it SEEMS you are confused.

You say I AM confused.

Then you accuse me of being the kid by insulting you.

My friend, I think "confused" doesn't even adequately describe your state.
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by italo: 4:11pm On Nov 04, 2013
amara.lizzy%40y:
follow the bible and not your believe.

Have you read the Bible portions Syncan gave above?

Or do you just feel like talking nonsense as usual?
Re: Is Virgin Mary Omnipotent, Omnipresent And Omniscient? by woky: 4:16pm On Nov 04, 2013
italo:

Have you read the Bible portions Syncan gave above?

Or do you just feel like talking nonsense as usual?
obu amara ka ana arazi ugbu a

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