I perceive that ye are very religious.
I found also an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD,God of all-Eledumare;Allah' What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you.
GOD who made the universe and everything in it--He, being Lord of Heaven and earth, does not dwell in sanctuaries built by men.
Nor is He ministered to by human hands, as though He needed anything--but He Himself gives to all men life and breath and all things.
He caused to spring from one forefather people of every race, for them to live on the whole surface of the earth, and marked out for them an appointed span of life and the boundaries of their homes;

that they may seek God; if indeed they might feel after him and find him, although he is not far from each one of us:for in him we live and move and exist; as also some of the poets amongst you have said, For we are also his offspring.
Being therefore [the] offspring of God, we ought not to think that which is divine to be like gold or silver or stone, [the] graven form of man's art and imagination.
YThose times when men had no knowledge were overlooked by God; but now he gives orders to all men in every place to undergo a change of heart:
because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead."

Adapted from Act 17:22-31
We are therefore calling to accept Jesus today

...

[/Quote author=Divepen]I perceive that ye are very religious.
I found also an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD,God of all-Eledumare;Allah' What therefore you worship in ignorance, this I announce to you.
GOD who made the universe and everything in it--He, being Lord of Heaven and earth, does not dwell in sanctuaries built by men.
Nor is He ministered to by human hands, as though He needed anything--but He Himself gives to all men life and breath and all things.
He caused to spring from one forefather people of every race, for them to live on the whole surface of the earth, and marked out for them an appointed span of life and the boundaries of their homes;

that they may seek God; if indeed they might feel after him and find him, although he is not far from each one of us:for in him we live and move and exist; as also some of the poets amongst you have said, For we are also his offspring.
Being therefore [the] offspring of God, we ought not to think that which is divine to be like gold or silver or stone, [the] graven form of man's art and imagination.
YThose times when men had no knowledge were overlooked by God; but now he gives orders to all men in every place to undergo a change of heart:
because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead."

Adapted from Act 17:22-31
We are therefore calling to accept Jesus today[/quote] @ Op, neither Olodumare nor Allah is unknown God, the two name is a "Sole God" in different language. Dio, Dios, Deus, Gott, Elah, Alaha, Allah, Olodumare, Oluwa, Tian zhu, Shen chi... One God many Names of God http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God - Who is Olodumare? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_associated_with_Olódùmarè - Who is Allah? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah - From ur christian brothers. http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?topic=13547.0 - http://www.equip.org/articles/allah-does-not-belong-to-islam/ - Common phrase among Arab christians even before Islam are; Allah Al-ab (God the Father) Allah Al-ibn (God the Son) Allah Al-ruh al-quds (God the Holy Spirit) Ibn Allah (Son of God [Jesus]) Mariam Ihm Allah (Mother of God[ Mary]). The Glorious quran acknowledges this, and warn the disbelievers.

Al-quran 5:72, Surely, they have disbelieved who say "Allah is the Messiah (Iesa [Jesus]) son of Mariam [mary]. "But the Messiah (Iesa) said: "O children of Isreal! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord". verily, whosoever set up partners in worship with Allah, then Allah has forbidden paradise for him, and the fire will be his abode and for the Zalimon (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers. 73. Surely, disbeliever are those who said "Allah is the third of the three (In trinity), but there is no god (none who has the right to be worshiped) but one God (Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them. 74. Will they not repent to Allah and ask His forgiveness? for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 75. The Messiah (Iesa [Jesus]), son of Maryam was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him, His mother (mary) was a Siddiqah (believer). They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allah does not eat). Look how we make the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs...) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).


Quran 4:171. O people of the scripture (Jews and Christians), do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth, The Messiah (Iesa [Jesus]), son of maryam was (no more than) a messenger of Allah and his word, (Be! and he was) which he bestowed on maryam and a spirit (Rooh) create by him; so believe in Allah and His messengers. say not Three (Trinity) to him (far Exalted is He) above having a son, To him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth, and Allah is All-sufficient as a disposer of affairs. 172. The Messiah will never be proud to reject to be a slave to Allah, nor the angles who are near (to Allah). And whoever rejects His worship and is proud, then He will gather them all together unto Himself.
Quran 3:59. Verily, the likeness of Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust then (He) said to him "Be! and he was. 60. This is the truth from your Lord, so be not of those who doubt. 61. Then whoever disputes with you concerning him (Jesus) after (all this) knowledge that has come to you, (i.e Iesa being a slave of Allah, and having no share in divinity). Say: O Muhammed (saw) "Come, let us call our Sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then we pray and invoke (sincerely) the curse of Allah upon those who lie.

I wonder why Idol worshippers like Mohammed grandFather could give their sons name that has Allah in it...does that not proof that Allah is a god...
In Nigeria we have Ifagbemi, .and so on...whhich typifies the god they serve...
It was at this time that mohammed saw that the greatest of all the god they serve in their land is allah and so the worship continued

Without further explaination, common sense should convince us that Allah is the sole God in arabic. 1 God, many names because we speak different language. God always send His messengers with their local language, He sent Jesus (as) with Aramaic and called His God "Elah" or "Elaha". actually Jesus never used Eloi or Eli. Jesus was an Aramaic speaker, Eloi and Eli in Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 respectively was a deliberate deception from Bible authors. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_Jesus - lets ask what we don't know so that we don't make terrible mistake and ignorantly insult the creator. Had Jesus (as) came among Yorubas, He would have called His God Olorun, Olodumare et.c. I guess the "Op" meant to say "Orunmila" because some people have over venerated him and call him god. Orunmila was created by Oludumare (creator) and once lived on earth, Olodumare will never come down to earth. Thousands of christians are singing, praying and dancing yahooze in the church for Olodumare, Who are they worshipping? And at times they dance, sing and end their prayer with "Jesu Christi Oluwa wa, Amen!". that is the confusion in the christian world including Arab Christian, they use Allah for Jesus and use Jesus for Allah. why this? because they don't understand the prophecy of John 16:7-14, and they thought the prophecy was fulfiled in john 20:22, a deadly misunderstanding. Kudos to bible authors any way, They're Bad Programmers!

Divepen: I wonder why Idol worshippers like Mohammed grandFather could give their sons name that has Allah in it...does that not proof that Allah is a god...
In Nigeria we have Ifagbemi, .and so on...whhich typifies the god they serve...
It was at this time that mohammed saw that the greatest of all the god they serve in their land is allah and so the worship continued

U've tried atleast u gave an example of what u're talking about. I don't know may be u're a yoruba, bt i will try to let u understand. Like i said above, Olodumare is a creator (God), Oluwa-oludumare goes together. We yoruba believe that Olodumare is a "Sole God" who created Orunmila, and Orunmila in introduced Ifa. We have many beautiful names that associate with God's name like Oluwafunke, Oluwaseyi, Oluwaferanmi... the father of "Jesuseun" did the same mistake that the father of "Ifagbemi" because they both idolized a human being like you and i. Orunmila once lived on earth, some said he was a prophet, bt the bottom line is that he was a man who God blessed and honored like Jesus christ and other prophets, and they were not to be worshiped. In mecca, Al-Lat, Al-uzza, Al-manat were all prominent human beings in mecca. people started idolizing them after their demise. Allah never lived among people as a human being, and it will never happen. "Deus" in Latin is a cognate to "Dious" in Spanish and "Dio" in Italian, all is the name of God in different language like "Gott" in German and "God" in English. another example is Greek word "Eostre" and "Ostara" in German and "Eastre" in English. El/Elohim forms "Elah" in Aramaic, "Alaha" in Assyriac and "Allah" in Arabic. muslim didn't write this, it's a linguistic matter http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim - Now, Christians believe since Abdullah is the father of Prophet Muhammed, and before Islam Meccans were pagan so prophet Muhammed was upholding His father's God which is Idol, a very baseless assumption. Anywhere you see "God" in your english bible it is "Allah" in Arabic even before christianity. Abdullah (Servant of Allah) is a name of a great prophet in Torah found in 1 chronicles 5:15 Abdiel (Servant of God). U know the name of Prophet Muhammed's father because of Islam, who knows Barrack Obama before he became American president? and does that mean no one else bears the name in his country? someboby else must be bearing the name, but we don't know him because he is not popular. so of course, many people from different background must be bearing Abdullah which we don't know because he is not popular. But still, we can see two Rabbis that borne the the Abdullah. Abdullah ibn Salam and Abdulla ibn Shuria http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_ibn_Salam

@ divepen. lies lies lies, give me an examples of those pagan stuffs that is still going on now and i will explain everything to u. Islam is divine, muslims have nothing to hide, unlike christianity, i need nt to describe ur ways for u.

you are a liar harbiola.

Godess Al-lat, AL-Uzza and Al-Manah were not human beings. They are Gods.

stop lying to spread your diabolical faith.

The Gods are watching.

Christianity is a reformed politized paganism. And Yahweh is the Idol of the Hills. Evidence here https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills

PAGAN 9JA:
you are a liar harbiola.

Godess Al-lat, AL-Uzza and Al-Manah were not human beings. They are Gods.

stop lying to spread your diabolical faith.

The Gods are watching.

Me lying ke! with all those evidences up there. watching you? stop being a fool man, they ve died since.

FOLYKAZE: Christianity is a reformed politized paganism. And Yahweh is the Idol of the Hills. Evidence here https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills

Honestly you don't need to go against christians because they are not worshiping Yahwe (God) bt god. Now do you celebrate this; Springs is in the air, flowers and bunnies decorate the home. father helps children paint beautiful designs on eggs, dyed in various colors, these eggs which will later be hidden and searched for are placed into lovely seasonal basket. forty days of abstaining from special foods will finally end the next day. the whole family pick out their sunday's best wear to the next morning sunrise worship to celebrate the saviour's resurrection and the renewal of life. it will be a thrilling day afterall, it's one of the most important religious holiday of the year. Easter, right? NO! I've just described an ancient Babylonian ceremony years before christ- honoring the resurrection of their god Tammuz, who was brought back from the under world by his wife, Ishtar (after whom the festival Astarte was named) which christians are celebrating as "Eastre" PAGAN Ceremony. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostara - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Bunny - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_hunt - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_tapping - that is the description of ur Ancestors ceremony which u've neglected only for christians to resuscitate. U & Pagan 9ja can join them for the next "Eoster" ceremony, u guys are all the same

FOLYKAZE: Christianity is a reformed politized paganism. And Yahweh is the Idol of the Hills. Evidence here https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills

Honestly you don't need to go against christians because they are not worshiping Yahwe (God) bt god. Now do you celebrate this; Springs is in the air, flowers and bunnies decorate the home. father helps children paint beautiful designs on eggs, dyed in various colors, these eggs which will later be hidden and searched for are placed into lovely seasonal basket. forty days of abstaining from special foods will finally end the next day. the whole family pick out their sunday's best wear to the next morning sunrise worship to celebrate the saviour's resurrection and the renewal of life. it will be a thrilling day afterall, it's one of the most important religious holiday of the year. Easter, right? NO! I've just described an ancient Babylonian ceremony years before christ- honoring the resurrection of their god Tammuz, who was brought back from the under world by his wife, Ishtar (after whom the festival Astarte was named) which christians are celebrating as "Eastre" PAGAN Ceremony. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostara - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Bunny - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_hunt - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_tapping - that is the description of ur Ancestors ceremony which u've neglected only for christians to resuscitate. U & Pagan 9ja can join them for the next "Eoster" ceremony, u guys are all the same

harbiola1: Me lying ke! with all those evidences up there. watching you? stop being a fool man, they ve died since.

WHAT EVIDENCE YOU LIAR!

SHOW ME PROOF THAT THESE 3 GODDESSES WERE HUMANS!

Lies in this thread.

Orunmila is not a prophet. He is a god, Orisha fun Ogbon, Imo ati Oye, ikeji Olorun, eleri-ipin, amo awo aye.

He knows all, he is the second after Olorun.

Orunmila is not restricted to Yoruba, but the whole universe. He is the personification of knowledge and wisdom. He was there at the beginning, and knows all to infinity. He is Olodumare's favorite child, and through him All pagans(not only Yoruba) have known spirituality.

The name Orunmila is only given to the conscious force of intelligence, that doesn't mean he is a dead man that is worshipped. Other traditions have a different name for him, also have a different personification for him.


Abiola(not Harbiola) you are muslim not pagan, and u do not understand paganism, if u do u cannot remain a muslim.

Ur Allah is also not wat it seems. He was once a pagan god. And if u read about the pre-Islam Arabic spirituality you would know this.

www.nairaland.com/1483214/should-read-religions

Let's discuss here ^^^

Divepen it was difficult to understand ur posts but it seems u accuse the pagans of not saving the supreme God.

Well I won't play defense, I would play on the offense.

Yahweh ur God is a mountain God, and not the supreme God.
I can never claim Orunmila to be Olodumare, but here u Jewish minded folks claiming Yahweh to be El Elyon
www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills

PAGAN 9JA:


WHAT EVIDENCE YOU LIAR!

SHOW ME PROOF THAT THESE 3 GODDESSES WERE HUMANS!

Then who were they? who were Ogun, Sango, Orunmila...? how did u know their sex? how did u mould their sculpture? there is nothing like god or goddess, they were human beings u guys only turned them to something else.

Eeeeeeeeeeehhhhhheeeeh my God is d God of valley and mountain

harbiola1: Then who were they? who were Ogun, Sango, Orunmila...? how did u know their sex? how did u mould their sculpture? there is nothing like god or goddess, they were human beings u guys only turned them to something else.

Mr abiola, Orunmila is ur friend and he is ready to release u from this ur state of limited knowledge.

Ogun was a Great blacksmith and hunter who lived in Idanre, he loved wearing palm skirts and always walked with his cutlass.
This man showed Great example for the force of Metal, War and brute strength. His name began to be used as the name for this conscious force of Iron, war, justice and brute strength

Alaafin Oba Sango Olukoso, was the 3rd king of Oyo, he showed unmatched intelligence and strength that brought fear into all around him. When he died his name began to be honored as the name for the conscious force of lightening, thunder and fire.

Orunmila was a wise man who lived in Ife thousands of years ago, he had 16sons and was the first man to figure out the secrets of Ifa. He is regarded as the first Ifa priest. When he died in Modern Ekiti lands, His name began to be honored as the name for the conscious force intelligence, wisdom, understanding and also of Ifa. His name is interchangeable between Ifa and Orunmila.

macof:

Mr abiola, Orunmila is ur friend and he is ready to release u from this ur state of limited knowledge.

Ogun was a Great blacksmith and hunter who lived in Idanre, he loved wearing palm skirts and always walked with his cutlass.
This man showed Great example for the force of Metal, War and brute strength. His name began to be used as the name for this conscious force of Iron, war, justice and brute strength

Alaafin Oba Sango Olukoso, was the 3rd king of Oyo, he showed unmatched intelligence and strength that brought fear into all around him. When he died his name began to be honored as the name for the conscious force of lightening, thunder and fire.

Orunmila was a wise man who lived in Ife thousands of years ago, he had 16sons and was the first man to figure out the secrets of Ifa. He is regarded as the first Ifa priest. When he died in Modern Ekiti lands, His name began to be honored as the name for the conscious force intelligence, wisdom, understanding and also of Ifa. His name is interchangeable between Ifa and Orunmila.

Clap for urself! and what lessons am i suppose to learn from this? I'll only appreciate ur effort if u can post the history of Olodumare. those dudes were human beings like myself only with different generation.

harbiola1: Clap for urself! and what lessons am i suppose to learn from this? I'll only appreciate ur effort if u can post the history of Olodumare. those dudes were human beings like myself only with different generation.

Allah has also been personified,all gods/nature forces have been personified to boost understanding, however where there's understanding for many, people like u get confusion.

Esu would release u from confusion soon, just open up to him.

History of Olodumare is beyond any man or Orisha. Olodumare is the ultimate force of all energy. He is the source of energy, he is pure energy.

If u know science, energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change from one form to another. His conscious change in form birthed Awon Orisa

Lightning and thunder is caused by the conscious movements of Sango

tornado and storms are caused by the conscious movements of Oya

Flooding are done by the conscious movements of Olokun or Yemoja

Fire outbreak is Sango

Anything iron is Ogun

All these are elements of nature and aspects of universal living which Olodumare has created the Orisha to control.

Olodumare is the essence of the existence of anything and everything, he owns all Ase(energy), and he uses this Ase to form things.

When Obatala was about to create dry land, he took permission from Olodumare because no change can be done to the universe without his authority(Also Ase)

When Esu tempts, he takes permission from Olodumare to punish or bless depending on the result of the tempting.
Olodumare is not a chief of the gods, Obatala is. Olodumare is only their father.

jazakallahu khairan! Harbiola1.

Op, your post didn't match your topic.

All you muslims saying Jesus was a messenger of Allah is a big lie or big error by Mohammed.

Israel doesn't serve Allah(moon god of arabia) they serve Yahweh(mountain god of canaanland).

Jesus knows no Allah

Have you seen this Macof,Abiola,and all

https://www.nairaland.com/1517776/all-keep-sinning

khattab02: Op, your post didn't match your topic.

paul was sayin there that ...you are serving God but you named him different names and you are serving him the wrong way

harbiola1: Then who were they? who were Ogun, Sango, Orunmila...? how did u know their sex? how did u mould their sculpture? there is nothing like god or goddess, they were human beings u guys only turned them to something else.

1) They are SPiritual Forces. We humans gave them names / they were revealed to us according to our languages. or they were given names depending on the characters of some bygone ancestors.

The Force has always existed. It is just the name.

2) It depends on the type of force. Take for example , in English, we say if we see a ship "We watched her sail away".
We use feminine to describe the ship. Does that mean that the ship is female NO!

Therefore you usually find the God of Destructive Forces (War, etc) as a God (male) , where the Gods of Fertility, Pro-creation, childbirth, etc., are usually Goddesses (female).

Because war and destruction is more of a male thing, while fertility , childbirth, etc., is more of a female issue.

Do you undertand?

3) We moulded their scupture according to our imagination and our culture, so that it relates to us. Our ancestors did this work for us.
Therefore Chinese version of Gods look more like Chinese, while Yoruba Gods look Yoruba with yoruba tribal marks and Hindu Gods look like the Aryan peoples, etc.

4) They were not human beings. There is no proof. We do not worship men like christians and the rest of you guyz, with your "prophets".

When we worship Shango, we do not worship the King. We worship the God Shango. The Kings name is just applied to this "FORCE/GOD", because his attributes were more oriented towards this particular Force.

After all a name has to come from somewhere. It wont drop from the Sky. The Gods are Spiritual Forces and dont speak human languages (except through us).

Divepen:
paul was sayin there that ...you are serving God but you named him different names and you are serving him the wrong way

so we should only serve God in Hebrew names and serve him the Christian way

Divepen:
paul was sayin there that ...you are serving God but you named him different names and you are serving him the wrong way

Says u right? Can you prove how am serving God the wrong way?

macof: Lies in this thread.

Where is lie? i'm very sure u can't find one in my posts.

macof:
Orunmila is not a prophet.

Ok! but did i say he is a prophet? i said, some people said, he is a prophet. read my post again and quote me, i don't say what i don't know.

macof:
He is a god, Orisha fun Ogbon, Imo ati Oye, ikeji Olorun, eleri-ipin, amo awo aye.

there was knowledge and wisdom before he came and after he's gone, there is nothing like ikeji Olorun. God is "Sole", with no partner, adviser...

macof:
He knows all, he is the second after Olorun.

No! u're wrong, he did not know all, he knew what God revealled to him. that was why he would praise and beg Olodumare before consulting Ifa. and u're wrong again nothing like second after God, if there is, other god worshippers said their god and goddess are second, daughter, son... now how do convince us that your's is truly the second. God is "Sole".

macof:
Orunmila is not restricted to Yoruba, but the whole universe.

i've great mission for the whole universe, not Yoruba alone.

macof:
He is the personification of knowledge and wisdom.

look at u, knowledge and wisdom is one yet other pagans have personification for it.

macof:
He was there at the beginning,

who was he? Malaika (Angel)?

macof: and knows all to infinity.

u're getting confused, that's Olodumare u're talking about.

macof: He is Olodumare's favorite child,

and where is Olodumare's favorite wife? my christian friend said i should help him ask u who is Jesus? altogether God have how many sons.

macof: and through him All pagans(not only Yoruba) have known spirituality.

macof:
and through him Yoruba pagan's were deluded. u must be kidding here, u mean Meccan, Roman, Syrian pagans know Orunmila or Ifa.
[quote author=macof]
The name Orunmila is only given to the conscious force of intelligence,

and before him what is the conscious force for intelligence called?

macof: that doesn't mean he is a dead man that is worshipped.

but why would u worship the second (Orunmila) and abandon the first (God)?

macof: Other traditions have a different name for him, also have a different personification for him.

there is nothing wrong with that. bt venerating them above God is absurd.

macof:
Abiola(not Harbiola) you are muslim not pagan, and u do not understand paganism, if u do u cannot remain a muslim.

u sound like holy mallam the comedian here.

macof:
Ur Allah is also not wat it seems. He was once a pagan god. And if u read about the pre-Islam Arabic spirituality you would know this.

are u a learner? Ibrahim, Ismail and Ajara (pbuta) were the first person on the soil of Arabia and their story is on wikipedia. u know that if u don't post the history of Allah then u are a LIAR.

www.nairaland.com/1483214/should-read-religions

Let's discuss here ^^^

i'm somewhat busy nw I'll see u later.

macof:

Allah has also been personified,all gods/nature forces have been personified to boost understanding, however where there's understanding for many, people like u get confusion.

Ok! we would see how Allah was personified.

macof:
Esu would release u from confusion soon, just open up to him.

Audhubillahi mina shaytani rojim. excuse me pls! never say such a thing to me again.

macof:
History of Olodumare is beyond any man or Orisha.

U're talking about God here. u know if u go to English speaking country u'll call him "God" and German "Gott", Assyriac "Alaha", Aramair "Elaha" and Arabic "Allah". that is it! thank God u're not an atheist

macof: Olodumare is the ultimate force of all energy. He is the source of energy, he is pure energy.

u're saying rubbish, Olodumare is not an energy. u guys can wake up tomorrow and say you want to personify energy. Olodumare is the creator of energy and asigned a role for him just like knowledge and wisdom.

macof:
If u know science, energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change from one form to another. His conscious change in form birthed Awon Orisa

Lightning and thunder is caused by the conscious movements of Sango

tornado and storms are caused by the conscious movements of Oya

Flooding are done by the conscious movements of Olokun or Yemoja

Fire outbreak is Sango

Anything iron is Ogun

All these are elements of nature and aspects of universal living which Olodumare has created the Orisha to control.

Olodumare is the essence of the existence of anything and everything, he owns all Ase(energy), and he uses this Ase to form things.

When Obatala was about to create dry land, he took permission from Olodumare because no change can be done to the universe without his authority(Also Ase)

When Esu tempts, he takes permission from Olodumare to punish or bless depending on the result of the tempting.
Olodumare is not a chief of the gods, Obatala is. Olodumare is only their father.

That is why only him deserves to be worshiped.

harbiola1: Olodumare is the creator of energy .

BIG TIME F00l!!!!!!!!!! TUFIAKWA!



[size=28pt]ENERGY CAN NEITHER BE CREATED NOR DESTROYED! .................................. IT IS CONSERVED![/size]

THE GODS ARE THE PAST, THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE!

Lol... These pagans eh!

Divepen: Eeeeeeeeeeehhhhhheeeeh my God is d God of valley and mountain

Will u shut up? u this advanced pagan. u're a shame to Jesus (as).