[quote
author=joyce01]One thing we must know is dat Jesus Christ is d same
yesterday. today and. forever. "We are no t under d law but grace "
means that sin no longer has dominion over us. God will not compromise
his standard because u don't believe, he's not a respecter of persons.
Someone commented earlier dat does it mean dat all d women in d world
who wear trousers will go to he'll? D answer is a capital Yes! I'm not
judging please, I'm speaking in accordance with the Scriptures. Unless
they repent of thidea things including d is. of attachments and other
artificial things, they won't make d kingdom of God. We might argue
that where is it stated dat trousers is foe men. No matter how we argue,
we all know deep down in our hearts dat even before we were born,
trousers were specifically for men. We know! Let's not shy away from d
truth... Those who argue dat it's not bad still have doubts (even if
they'll not admit it) as to whether they're on d right path. Y deceive
ourselves for this long. Some of them are shy to openly come out and
accept this fact probably because they will be laughed at. My point
exactly is dat God is a merciful His but He's also a consuming fire. It
is a fearful thing, d Bible says, to fall into d hands of d living God.
Y do we keep mocking God? We know d truth but we find it hard to accept
and practice it, why? It was God who gave Moses those laws nd He's
still d same His today. Y do we think those laws are no longer binding?
Has God changed? NO! His standard Stanley sure! We claim those laws
were meant for d IsraeliteIsraelites, why then do we claim d blessings
of d old testament? We know d truth, let's admit it for goodness sake!
I'm not imposing this on anyone,you're entitled to your own opinion.
I'm just saying dis Cos I do not want your blood to be required of me..
Peace![/quote]
hope you follow all the laws cuz if you don't, you might just end up in hell with 'em trouser wearers

The problem we have today in christianity is indoctrination. One man of God or Evangelist even prophet whatever title they bear will just say something and everybody will swallow it hook, line and sinker without even studying it themselves whether it was so. They dnt study to show themselves approved unto God, that is why they fall victim of strange doctrines and are being tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrines like children.

Ephesians 4:14.
That we henceforth be no more children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight of men and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

joyce01: One thing we must know is dat Jesus Christ is d same yesterday. today and. forever. "We are no t under d law but grace " means that sin no longer has dominion over us. God will not compromise his standard because u don't believe, he's not a respecter of persons. Someone commented earlier dat does it mean dat all d women in d world who wear trousers will go to he'll? D answer is a capital Yes! I'm not judging please, I'm speaking in accordance with the Scriptures. Unless they repent of thidea things including d is. of attachments and other artificial things, they won't make d kingdom of God. We might argue that where is it stated dat trousers is foe men. No matter how we argue, we all know deep down in our hearts dat even before we were born, trousers were specifically for men. We know! Let's not shy away from d truth... Those who argue dat it's not bad still have doubts (even if they'll not admit it) as to whether they're on d right path. Y deceive ourselves for this long. Some of them are shy to openly come out and accept this fact probably because they will be laughed at. My point exactly is dat God is a merciful His but He's also a consuming fire. It is a fearful thing, d Bible says, to fall into d hands of d living God. Y do we keep mocking God? We know d truth but we find it hard to accept and practice it, why? It was God who gave Moses those laws nd He's still d same His today. Y do we think those laws are no longer binding? Has God changed? NO! His standard Stanley sure! We claim those laws were meant for d IsraeliteIsraelites, why then do we claim d blessings of d old testament? We know d truth, let's admit it for goodness sake! I'm not imposing this on anyone,you're entitled to your own opinion. I'm just saying dis Cos I do not want your blood to be required of me.. Peace!

are u God that is going to send those people to hell. Do u think God reason the way u are reasoning now? By the way hw do u get those facts? where is ur links?. So that i will read it myself. Hw do u know that trouser was originally made for men only and men wore it first? U really amazed me. U are just speaking blindly here.

And pls tell me hw many of the law of moses u know and are keeping. Before we go on.

@Ukut gp: tell me, d doctrine of Deeper Life Bible Church &Redeemed Christian Church of God etc, are they wrong? but remember, these Churches had been even maybe b4 ur Pastor was born. Are they wrong?

Candidstephen: @Ukut gp: tell me, d doctrine of Deeper Life Bible Church &Redeemed Christian Church of God etc, are they wrong? but remember, these Churches had been even maybe b4 ur Pastor was born. Are they wrong?

Yes , they are wrong, they are the doctrines of MEN.

Those guys will nt allow people to worship God in peace. Bringing legalism to the church

To those wearin trouser continue
To those wearin skirt continue...
We shall all get our rereward....

But i will advice you to wear moderate and long skirts

Because nobody will complain about that....and it helps to b on d safe side-If truly You want to make heaven
Because none will ever

There is no proof in the bible that make up and wearing of earings by ladies are also sin too.

Ukuts gp: There is no proof in the bible that make up and wearing of earings by ladies are also sin too.

I just got ..you are lookin for who to argue wt and ppl that wl accept ur believe

Divepen:

I just got ..you are lookin for who to argue wt and ppl that wl accept ur believe

on the contrary, there are many people who share the same view with me. U are the only one that refuse to see and still preach legalism and human ideology.

Ukuts gp: on the contrary, there are many people who share the same view with me. U are the only one that refuse to see and still preach legalism and human ideology.

many r calld bt few r chosen. Broad is the way dat leadeth 2 destruction nd narrow is d way dat leadeth 2 eternal life. Dia is a way dat seemeth right unto a man bt d end thereof is destruction. He dat is often rebuke nd harden his heart his destruction is coming nd dat witout remedy. I pray u learn something from dis. God bless u.

[quote author=frosbel][/quote] a christian atheist has spoken.

Many dnt want to embrace the new covenant which is better than the old

They tie themselves to the old covenants.

If d new cönvenat is 2 live nd dwell comfortable in sin den is nt worth acceptin.

anibi9674: If d new cönvenat is 2 live nd dwell comfortable in sin den is nt worth acceptin.

wearing trouser is nt a sin

Ukuts gp: wearing trouser is nt a sin

wheneva we start doin wrong thnz..letz take for example browsing in the church we first of all thnk it is bad but because we cud not stop @ dat tym...we wl start lukin for biblical extract to bak up our plight....
We start provin with extracts...
Itz just like Deutoronomy 28.1-14
we tend to read d promises to oursef forgetin the 'If' ....

Jesus christ said he has not come to change d law but to bring it to fulfilment

...if thou being a jew livest after the manner of the gentiles and not as do the jews, why compellest thou the gentiles to live as jews?... for by the works of the law shall no man be justified... For i through the law am DEAD TO THE LAW, that I might live unto God...' galatians 1vs14 to 20

O foolish galatians who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth?... He that ministereth to you the spirit and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law or by the hearing of faith... For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse... But that no man is justifed by the law in the sight of God, it is evident for the just shall live by faith... - galatians 3 vs 1...

"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us... Wherefore the law WAS our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster( law)" - Galatians 3 vs 10-24

As I said before, i'm not forcing anyone to believe What I said. All I know is dat God will not compromise his standard whether u believe or not cos He's not a respecter of persons . D Bible says in Deuteronomy 30:19"This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses AGAINST you that I have set before u life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life so that u and ur children may live". To me, choice is d best gift God has given to man. You can choose to believe or not but I just pray ur choice is What's best for u. THINK ABOUT THIS: Let's say we ladies eventually stop wearing trousers and using artificial things and then wen we get to heaven, we are being told that all this "trousers-and-artificial -things" stuff is all a lie, and cannot hinder one from making heaven and then we are told to enter heaven, u'll see dat we haven't lost a thing. by not using trousers or artificials. But If we do not believe and we get to heaven and we are being told dat all What we heard are true nd we are told to depart and we are being sent to d place of eternal torment, we see dat we have lost everything. Brethren, That's too big a risk to take. This is just an illustration but What we are talking about here is something dat is in d Bible and is not even supposed to be disputed. As I said earlier, it's a matter of choice and d Bible says "choose. life". SHALOM!

Divepen: Jesus christ said he has not come to change d law but to bring it to fulfilment

Exactly

vickyO: And do you know that people with this judgmental view are those who fail to realize the awesome power in Christ... I used to uphold this view and classified every woman who wears trousers, make up and earring as a hell fire candidate even Joyce Meyers. but then thank God for the grace he gave me to renew my mind. When I looked beyond the physical and saw the gospel of Christ as it is, I've been a better Christian and i'm now more open to the gospel than before. but that doesn't mean you shouldn't uphold modesty and decency... the shortest skirt sef is worse than the shortest short......... it's all in our minds, if we can renew it with the pure, unadulterated Word of God, you'll be free indeed. Though some really do get these personal revelations to stop but it's personal and not general. don't enforce it on others. The Holy Spirit will deal with us all according to our level of faith.

Seconded vicky

PrettyGaby: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us... Wherefore the law WAS our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster( law)" - Galatians 3 vs 10-24

PrettyGaby: ...if thou being a jew livest after the manner of the gentiles and not as do the jews, why compellest thou the gentiles to live as jews?... for by the works of the law shall no man be justified... For i through the law am DEAD TO THE LAW, that I might live unto God...' galatians 1vs14 to 20

Ukuts gp: They tie themselves to the old covenants.

I want you all to prove me wrong.

What you said up there is what i want to prove.

Do you still obey the Ten commandment,if yes it is the law,you under a curse.

Do you eat cockroach, pig ,lizard,if no it is a law for us not to eat it you are under a curse.

Do you still Love your Neighbour and Love God.
If yes it is in the law :..
Deutoronomy 6:6

You are under a curse.


But the law of God is unchangeable...
The law paul was against was the law of circumcision....

If you do not kill
Steal,
you are under a curse...

If you obey the ten commandmenr and cannot obey this one you just like James said you have disobeyed all

Divepen:


I want you all to prove me wrong.

What you said up there is what i want to prove.

Do you still obey the Ten commandment,if yes it is the law,you under a curse.

Do you eat cockroach, pig ,lizard,if no it is a law for us not to eat it you are under a curse.

Do you still Love your Neighbour and Love God.
If yes it is in the law :..
Deutoronomy 6:6

You are under a curse.


But the law of God is unchangeable...
The law paul was against was the law of circumcision....

If you do not kill
Steal,
you are under a curse...

If you obey the ten commandmenr and cannot obey this one you just like James said you have disobeyed all

why do u choose some laws and forget the others? Do u know all the laws in the bibles?

Ukuts gp: why do u choose some laws and forget the others? Do u know all the laws in the bibles?

brother ...dont miss it....
Im not sayin im obeyin ol but it is not wise to deliberately remove some for your pleasure..

Do u obey the laws stated in that same deuteronomy 22:9-12? Why do u then pick verse 5 and leave the others. Hypocrite like u. Go and study the bible very well b4 u type what u dnt know. @Divepen

Ukuts gp: Do u obey the laws stated in that same deuteronomy 22:9-12? Why do u then pick verse 5 and leave the others. Hypocrite like u. Go and study the bible very well b4 u type what u dnt know. @Divepen

okay sir....i wl study my bible but y did u leave doz verse 1-8 .....is it because u obey only verse 9-12 and do not obey 1-8

Divepen:

okay sir....i wl study my bible but y did u leave doz verse 1-8 .....is it because u obey only verse 9-12 and do not obey 1-8

do u obey the laws in that whole chapter? Yes or no. Stop going round a circle.

[quote
author=Divepen]


I want you all to prove me wrong.

What you said up there is what i want to prove.

Do you still obey the Ten commandment,if yes it is the law,you under a
curse.

Do you eat cockroach, pig ,lizard,if no it is a law for us not to eat
it you are under a curse.

Do you still Love your Neighbour and Love God.
If yes it is in the law :..
Deutoronomy 6:6

You are under a curse.


But the law of God is unchangeable...
The law paul was against was the law of circumcision....

If you do not kill
Steal,
you are under a curse...

If you obey the ten commandmenr and cannot obey this one you just like
James said you have disobeyed all[/quote]
i don't follow the law. the Bible says a new commandment i give to
you... the commandment of love. if i ve got that love, i won't steal etc. the
new testament has enough rules for a living as a christian. i don't
need to help Judaists keep the torah and laws of Moses.

PrettyGaby:
i don't follow the law. the Bible says a new commandment i give to
you... the commandment of love. if i ve got that love, i won't steal etc. the
new testament has enough rules for a living as a christian. i don't
need to help Judaists keep the torah and laws of Moses.

Too badddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?