Lots of churches, lots of worship, lots of prayers, praises, and religion. Are we really doing the will of Christ or are the 'spiritual leaders' just getting rich at the people's expense? What do you think?

first ask yourself the Q

Its psychological therapy for the masses. Without it people will be going crazy left and right as far as poverty is concerned.

Is Aparo a bird or a human being?

@ the poster:
They are fakes. There is no real followers of Jesus in the Christain community, anywhere on earth. We have, however followers of Apostle Paul, all over the place. The total christian population is just that.

Some people also follow others who are seeing ghosts who disappear when a woman reveals her unclothedness, being that they are righteous spirits, I might add.

@Morpheus24:
So you hang around the unclothedness of women who are not your wives, yet not children, innicent of sexuality? Thats bad qualities. But your statement about ghost has no place in the thread, unless you can explain, further. Whats ghost anyway? Jinn? Angels are not ghost and am sure you are not calling Angels that. If you did, then thats mislabelling. Correct yourself, now that I have provided you with the tool.

Ah I see you caught on.

Jinn or Genies that come out lamps are the same thing as Spirit/Ghosts. It depends on how you want to see them.

If it makes you any happier. I used "Spirit" in the second half of my sentence but you are clever enough to know it doesn't make any difference to the point I am trying to make.

@Morpheus24:
You see, the spiritual being that is bashful is Angels. And not Jinn or Genies. Genies have free will, like humans. The Angels have no free will. In the lives of humans, you see people who are pious are bashful around opposite sex who they are not related to in any way and old enough to understand sexuality.

But the folks who do not have any piety don't care. You will therefore realise that Angel Gabreil, representing the Angels was bashful. While Iblis who became Shaitan is representing th Jinn or Genies. He has no shame and lacks bashfulness. thats why he cheerlead people to doing evil. He makes a man wanna look until it becomes unabashfulness. It leads to uncontrollable urge to this horrible behavoiur and other evils.

Is that what you want, having no shame?

What are you talking about?

The poster asked if anyone is really doing the will of Christ. You answer that all christians are fake and back up your theory by the wildlly publicized propaganda of Paul and his twisting of Christianity.

I respond to you in an attempt to make you see how ridiculous your allegations are when one can point to stories in Islam that one can deduce are borrowed from stories perpetuated by arabians long before islam. You still don't get it.

Jinn or Genies are an arabian myth just like the aladdin story and Ali baba and the forty thieves, just like Ogbanjes or Abikus.

Explaining to me what does not make sense, does not make sense.

Before you accuse anyone else of false beliefs, take a good look at yourself first.

Remove the speck from your eye first

@Morpheus24:

What are you talking about?

Am talking about your garbage.

The poster asked if anyone is really doing the will of Christ. You answer that all christians are fake and back up your theory by the wildlly publicized propaganda of Paul and his twisting of Christianity.

The heading/title is very explicit. Read it again!

I respond to you in an attempt to make you see how ridiculous your allegations are when one can point to stories in Islam that one can deduce are borrowed from stories perpetuated by arabians long before islam. You still don't get it.

Are you saying that "Alujonnu," (am a Yoruba boy) does not exist? What about the Egbere? What about Marmaid or mammywater?

Jinn or Genies are an arabian myth just like the aladdin story and Ali baba and the forty thieves, just like Ogbanjes or Abikus.

We are talking about jinn or genies here. I wo lo mo ibi ti o ti ri abiku to nso ni pa e!

Explaining to me what does not make sense, does not make sense.

Its too late. Go to bed. And tomorrow is another day! You didn't get it loju momo. How can you get it ni Oru ogo jon.

Before you accuse anyone else of false beliefs, take a good look at yourself first.

I did. Am alright. My belief is correct. Alhamdulillah. I am very clear that God is One Lord. Not 3 and there are no multiple personality god in my belief.

Remove the speck from your eye first

Am trying to. But there is no speck or "log," in my eye.

When you get to heaven after you martyr yourself then tel lthe 72 virgins I am coming too to meet them and oh yeah that river of honey don't finish it before I get there.

Delusions of a desert people who have concurred and brainwashed your mind.


Arabic is the language of the angels. Why not yoruba? Heheheheh.

@Morpheus24;

When you get to heaven after you martyr yourself then tel lthe 72 virgins I am coming too to meet them and oh yeah that river of honey don't finish it before I get there.

Now you are interested in the reward, but not in the belief and work that may lead you there. Are you an Ibadan boy? True to the image; ibi ti ole ngbe jare oniun. Or omo a jegboro dagba. I believe the second one fits like a glove. Its like wanting to go to christian heavens, but dont want the christian death. Hey, its rapture! But it ain't gonna happen. Every christian that ever hoped for it, perished without realizing it. Ma je ki tie ri be o, morpheus24.

Delusions of a desert people who have concurred and brainwashed your mind.

I am happy about that. At least it is better than the Jews who will let you know that 'salvation is of the jews, only!' Now chew on that. They have thrown you to the abiss of hellfire by this statement. Except, you just dont read anything directly. You have to put interpretation spin on it. Even when the sentence is direct to the point. Paddy mi, stop this twisting and turning away from the truth. Join the desert people followership. Leave the Jews alone. They will never benefit you. Never, I repeat it. Nothing Jewish, including their tribal prophet and prophesy for them will benefit any 9ja.

Arabic is the language of the angels. Why not yoruba? Heheheheh.

For one, its the saying of the Prophet (as). And he never uttered anything important like this from his personal opinion, except he was instructed by revelation. It is the language of the Qur'an. Unlike the Bible, which are all over the places, and of course greek dominated semitic languages of the prophets. And the language of the angels ins not Yoruba, if you consider that even today you still have Babalawo, Olorisha, Abogun, Onishongo, Oloya, Olobatala, etc still in my Yorubaland. Swallow that, for a moment. I know its a bitter pill. Will the language of the Angels be your demise?

Heheheheh.

Its apparent you are more deluded that I thought. It is evident you are no different than any other fundamentalist religious nut out there

You shut down everyone elses reasoning based on the fact of what you think you know yet have no shred of evidence to support. your onyl point of reference is you Quran. "the undisputed real truth". Of course it would be. You have no other choice and think for some reason you are priviledged in your status as being born a muslim.

The fact is you have been indoctrinated into this belief just like every other religious nut out there and concentrate your time on disproving other peoples faiths in an effort to justify your delusion and come to terms with your existense and purpose in life

Foolish to see that you are as guilty and gullible of the very redrick you are spewing.

Ask your self what makes you so sure of what you are saying is true. When you answer that question then ask what makes other people of different faiths make them so sure of theirs as well. You will come to discover you absolutely no different from them and if you are intelligent enough will realize you are fighting a loosing battle and are simply wasting your breath each day of your life.

Pastor AIO:

Is Aparo a bird or a human being?

heheheheeeeee
@topic,BOTH .

I think both Islam and Christianity should be banned from the country. . . . . . . .

I reckon God can do no worse to the country than the present state of affairs.

Or can he

Who am I to judge whether one is a Christian or not? All I know is on the judgment day, everyone shall give an account of how he/she has lived his/her life to God.

I have a life of purpose to live on earth, and I shall fulfill my purpose here on planet earth.

@morpheus24 « #13 on: Today at 06:34:18 PM »

Its apparent you are more deluded that I thought. It is evident you are no different than any other fundamentalist religious nut out there

I only responded to your entry. That direct respond got you upset. Sorry, man. But am not a fundamentalist religious nut. No sir. That belongs to dead heads. I am not one. Why? Allah the Almighty speaks about moderation. I obey Him.

You shut down everyone elses reasoning based on the fact of what you think you know yet have no shred of evidence to support. your onyl point of reference is you Quran. "the undisputed real truth". Of course it would be. You have no other choice and think for some reason you are priviledged in your status as being born a muslim.

Is there another point of reference apart from what God said? Should I take Paul as my point of reference? Wouldn't I then arrive at 3 in 1 godhead(s)? And to think that being borm into Islamic family automatically makes you a muslim, is far from reality. How many a personwho have abandoned Islam for Kufr? And how many a new dynasty in Islam that are being established, today in the West? Or even in Iboland, etc? Ogbeni, so nko to mo. And you can become a muslim, still. No one is stopping you. You can be previleged as well, the moment you become a muslim.

The fact is you have been indoctrinated into this belief just like every other religious nut out there and concentrate your time on disproving other peoples faiths in an effort to justify your delusion and come to terms with your existense and purpose in life

Whats your purpose in life? No, what is yourvpurpose of being alive? Think about it. I already responded to you about being a religious nut. Say something else.

Foolish to see that you are as guilty and gullible of the very redrick you are spewing.

Since I responded to your ill informed idea about Islamic paradise, you therefore find me, guilty, gullible and a spewer of rhetorics. Ok.

Ask your self what makes you so sure of what you are saying is true. When you answer that question then ask what makes other people of different faiths make them so sure of theirs as well. You will come to discover you absolutely no different from them and if you are intelligent enough will realize you are fighting a loosing battle and are simply wasting your breath each day of your life.

If I listen to somebody like you, I will probably let somebody absorb my responsibility. Rather, the person may oppress me and i will not know it. Thank God that I have a mind of my own. As a human being am able to know that the earth did not come about by accident. I know that I am not here just without a purpose that fit within all the things that I see. I am sure of death. Further there is the hope that whatever I do in this world, I will reap the reward. Heck, even the Hindu believes in reward. Thats why they talk about reincarnation and then reaching a Navada. They talk about Karma, too.

The Jews and the Christians believe in reward in the day of Judgement. Its only you, morpheous24 and atheists and agnostics, who do not believe in anything. Your believe is that when you die, you will decompose and that will be it. Well, its only a pipe dream. I hereby submit to you that you shall be recreated, and be Judged. If you have a good and very sound belief in One god and do deed of righteousness, you will have the Mercy of God. he will ransome you away from Hellfire and you will be placed in paradise, from the get go. If you are from the extreme opposite of this, then, you will receive the necessary Justice of God. The place that an evil person deserve to be place is the Fire of hell, losing out of the goodness of paradise.

Whats your choice?

@olabowale
na wah o!
i thought you'd stay in the islam for muslims section,i guess its too boring there for you she?maybe everyone there agrees with your belief systems?i have always said it,taking any religion hook line and sinker only means you've taken with it the inconsistencies of the protagonists of such religious beliefs so bottom line, christains and musslims will never agree! To each, the other party is gonna burn in hell, not so?
Abeg.lets hear word!
who is a christian?and who is a muslim other than those who believe in a message purpotedly sent by God through humans, and also those whose God is so powerless he needs to be defended by mortals in a public forum and so powerless you have to carry arms to fight for.
What a shame to humanity, serving God's that need to be helped, think!

First of all you assume I am a christian then start lambasting on that subject matter. When your not sure of what I am you try to corner me as an atheist or agnostic just so you can label me and find a point of reference to coin your antagonist.

When you see I am not leaning towards christianity or judaism. you quickly align with the very religions you are antagonizing

I am far from upset and have come to take people like you as what you are. Not very intelligent at all.


I am not insulting you. Its just an opinion you see. Just as you cannot prove the fact that you are going to heaven when you die and rely soley on faith I in turn cannot prove your brain is quite small without running tests on it.

Next time when you catch typhoid fever run quickly to the mosque and tell your brothers to pray for you until you are healed cause if you are so sure then you shouldn't doubt that , should you?

To be honest this is the hardest question to answer because there are many Nigerians who goes by the name of Christian but are the most wicked and unforgiven people you could ever known. I think there still vast majority of people that confused Christianity with the believers. I will rather dwell on the word believers rather Christianity if you truly believe in God and believes in the holy book, your actions and thought will be different, don't get me wrong no one is perfect.

Let me give you an example: I know of of a lady in Australia married to a man from his home town but she and family always nagging this man to go church and they criticised him until, they both went their separate ways. And the mother in law, who was the architect of the church issue never sees anything wrong with what her daugther did, in short she advised her daugther to kicked the man out of their house. So please tell me who is Christian? As the Bible says "we should be a peace maker not a trouble maker". And upon that the man was not allowed to see their only son, after the woman remarried. You see my point here is, it is only God who knows those who is truly serving him.

Being a CHRISTian is not because you were born into a church-going home but that's the idea a lot of us have when we are asked ''Are you a christian?''. The disciples were called CHRISTians becos they showed the trait of the master himself and the people noticed and called them CHRIST-like. Nigerians are hypocritical by nature, pretending to be what we aren't even physically.

lets say some of the pastors are mainly in it just for the money, nigeria is a cold nation

I have come across a similar topic in the religious section.
Only God knows those that actually true Christians or not.
A sinner is not a Christian and a Christian is not a sinner.

Perhaps outward form and public profession have nothing to do with the actually spiritual state of a human being, no matter what the actual religion he is professing.

Pastor AIO:

Perhaps outward form and public profession have nothing to do with the actually spiritual state of a human being, no matter what the actual religion he is professing.

preach it pastor

Only God knows!!!

90% of churchgoers in Nigeria are NOT Christian!

90% of so-called Muslims in Nigeria are fake!

They all try to use religion to fool fools!

JamaicanQT:

lets say some of the pastors are mainly in it just for the money, nigeria is a cold nation

is that what your boy freinds told you?

Sad , but true

they are ceremonial christians

fake christians, ?? no , its just that they have taking christianity to the extreme all in the name of "taking it my force",