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Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 1:48pm On Dec 07, 2013
Cambridge University scholar of African history, John Iliffe, has this to say about Obj: ” Obasanjo having been an active opponent of apartheid and an architect of the African Union. THE MOST IMPORTANT AFRICAN LEADER OF THIS GENERATION , Obasanjo has had an extraordinarily diverse career as soldier, politician, statesman, farmer, author, political prisoner, Baptist preacher, and family patriarch. As a soldier, he secured the victory in Nigeria’s civil war” . In a nutshell , even in his life time his history is being written favorably

He has been at fore front of African affairs.
His leadership has been felt much more than in Africa continent . Obj was the leader of G77, comprising most developing countries of the world . When he was president of G77 he started the campaign for global debt relief arguing that the so call debt was another form of enslavement . Later the western world agreed to debt relief , but only to poorest countries in the world, excluding Nigeria but Obj fought on for Nigeria.

Now back to Nigeria . I know those of you who don’t like the man for whatever reason , I know some just hate him because he does not belong to their political or ethnic side but that is the reality of human beings .

Here is a man who met external reserve of Nigeria at $2 billion and within 8 years left it at $68 billion .Even though the price of oil , in real terms , was the lowest in the history of petroleum when he came in . A barrel of oil was sold $9 per barrel .

He met external debt at $ 35 billion and left it at none .
He met 200 thousand functioning fones left it at over 70 million.
He met Stock Market Capitalisation @ 400bn left it 13 trillion naira...As at when he left office Nigeria stock market was best performing in d world.
We know the Story today..6yrs after all his legacies were destroyed.

May God help Nigeria.

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by bloggernaija: 2:05pm On Dec 07, 2013
zeen nurei: Cambridge University scholar of African history, John Iliffe, has this to say about Obj: ” Obasanjo having been an active opponent of apartheid and an architect of the African Union. THE MOST IMPORTANT AFRICAN LEADER OF THIS GENERATION , Obasanjo has had an extraordinarily diverse career as soldier, politician, statesman, farmer, author, political prisoner, Baptist preacher, and family patriarch. As a soldier, he secured the victory in Nigeria’s civil war” . In a nutshell , even in his life time his history is being written favorably

He has been at fore front of African affairs.
His leadership has been felt much more than in Africa continent . Obj was the leader of G77, comprising most developing countries of the world . When he was president of G77 he started the campaign for global debt relief arguing that the so call debt was another form of enslavement . Later the western world agreed to debt relief , but only to poorest countries in the world, excluding Nigeria but Obj fought on for Nigeria.

Now back to Nigeria . I know those of you who don’t like the man for whatever reason , I know some just hate him because he does not belong to their political or ethnic side but that is the reality of human beings .

Here is a man who met external reserve of Nigeria at $2 billion and within 8 years left it at $68 billion .Even though the price of oil , in real terms , was the lowest in the history of petroleum when he came in . A barrel of oil was sold $9 per barrel .

He met external debt at $ 35 billion and left it at none .
He met 200 thousand functioning fones left it at over 70 million.
He met Stock Market Capitalisation @ 400bn left it 13 trillion naira...As at when he left office Nigeria stock market was best performing in d world.
We know the Story today..6yrs after all his legacies were destroyed.

May God help Nigeria.

What this man has written is the level at which I judge leaders and countries
You need to get these things right in order to be able to able to build thing and grow.
On that score alone,obasanjo towers over all the former and current presidents.
But his politics ,crudeness and choice of successors makes it almost impossible to give him the benefit .

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 8:59am On Dec 08, 2013
@bloggernaija
I concur with your arguments but my question goes; Why did GEJ destroyed all those legacies instead to just maintain them without even adding his?
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by gbadexy(m): 9:19am On Dec 08, 2013
The writer is correct in a way sha.
It doesn't mean he is not corrupt or a saint, but he is the amongst most sincere.
His achievements were impressive but I suppose •̸Ϟ•̸y most sincere leader would be buhari.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Nobody: 9:23am On Dec 08, 2013
Backyard bull shit. There was no light, no roads, no health facilities, education sector decayed.

His move for privatisation was marred with great irregularities.

So many flaws.

I don't buy this nansense.

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 6:15am On Dec 09, 2013
gbadexy: The writer is correct in a way sha.
It doesn't mean he is not corrupt or a saint, but he is the amongst most sincere.
His achievements were impressive but I suppose •̸Ϟ•̸y most sincere leader would be buhari.

@gbadexy
I doubt if obasanjo is corrupt at all or can you give me some evidences that shows contrary to my opinion. The most corrupt president ever in nigeria is GEJ am sure everybody will agree with me on this but I don't know why some people doesn't like the truth.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 7:45am On Dec 09, 2013
emmy-richie:
Backyard bull shit. There was no light, no roads, no health facilities, education sector decayed.

His move for privatisation was marred with great irregularities.

So many flaws.

I don't buy this nansense.

But bro despite all the challenges he has gotten a pass mark.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Brimmie(m): 8:15am On Dec 09, 2013
zeen nurei:

@gbadexy
I doubt if obasanjo is corrupt at all or can you give me some evidences that shows contrary to my opinion. The most corrupt president ever in nigeria is GEJ am sure everybody will agree with me on this but I don't know why some people doesn't like the truth.
Tell me you're kidding!? cheesy Baba Iyabo was corrupt and greedy.. But GEJ is the Current Heavy Weight Champion in Corruption!

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Abagworo(m): 8:29am On Dec 09, 2013
zeen nurei: @bloggernaija
I concur with your arguments but my question goes; Why did GEJ destroyed all those legacies instead to just maintain them without even adding his?

GEJ did not destroy Obasanjo's legacy but rather continued with it at a slower pace. GEJ is trying his best but he was not created to be a leader and people take him for a ride. Most people around him do what pleases them and not what pleases GEJ including his own wife.

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 9:41am On Dec 09, 2013
Abagworo:

GEJ did not destroy Obasanjo's legacy but rather continued with it at a slower pace. GEJ is trying his best but he was not created to be a leader and people take him for a ride. Most people around him do what pleases them and not what pleases GEJ including his own wife.

My Bro will you tell me some of the OBJ policies that GEJ continued with? please lets talk with high sense of reasoning. Do you really mean that GEJ cabinet take him for ride? can you expantiate what you excatly mean by that?

For me a leader must be competence which goes beyond words, it is the leaders ability to say it, plan it, and do it in such a way that others know that you know how and also a leader must be able to share knowledge and ideas to transmit a sense of urgency and enthusiasm to others.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by juman(m): 10:22am On Dec 09, 2013
obj not sincere.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by mumumugu(m): 10:32am On Dec 09, 2013
A king is not respected in his own country
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by kettykin: 11:11am On Dec 09, 2013
Hypocrites !!!
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Abagworo(m): 11:20am On Dec 09, 2013
zeen nurei:

My Bro will you tell me some of the OBJ policies that GEJ continued with? please lets talk with high sense of reasoning. Do you really mean that GEJ cabinet take him for ride? can you expantiate what you excatly mean by that?

For me a leader must be competence which goes beyond words, it is the leaders ability to say it, plan it, and do it in such a way that others know that you know how and also a leader must be able to share knowledge and ideas to transmit a sense of urgency and enthusiasm to others.

Power, communication, banking and agriculture. The problem is implementation which I will fault his leadership qualities for.

On your 2nd question you and I know that a lot of things being done in this regime like his wife snatching mic from a governor and engaging a Governor in power tussle, ministers making frivolous expenses and damning whatever consequences, individuals faking importation of petroleum products and collecting non-existent subsidy Etc. would have been suicide under Obasanjo. The fear of his reactions would have been there.

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 11:24am On Dec 09, 2013
mumumugu: A thief is not respected in his own country

Please can you explain what you mean?
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 11:27am On Dec 09, 2013
juman: obj not sincere.


We only work with facts not just a word. Thank you
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 11:46am On Dec 09, 2013
Abagworo:

Power, communication, banking and agriculture. The problem is implementation which I will fault his leadership qualities for.

On your 2nd question you and I know that a lot of things being done in this regime like his wife snatching mic from a governor and engaging a Governor in power tussle, ministers making frivolous expenses and damning whatever consequences, individuals faking importation of petroleum products and collecting non-existent subsidy Etc. would have been suicide under Obasanjo. The fear of his reactions would have been there.

Please Sir, look at how corruption is skyrocketing in his administartion and him been silence and hiding those looters on his shed is a clear indication that he is not ready to fight it which is the greatest fact that is making our country backward in all aspects of the economy.

But a great leader suppose to stands on his feet and push away any person/or a group of people that are doing things contrary to his mission and vission but GEJ is silence on this.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by ifebosco: 11:54am On Dec 09, 2013
the writer is on point,
lack of infratructure was the onle problema obj had in his term
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by juman(m): 12:21pm On Dec 09, 2013
zeen nurei:

We only work with facts not just a word. Thank you

There were massive election rigging during his time.

Despite as a former head of state, he failed woefully as president.

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by juman(m): 12:23pm On Dec 09, 2013
ifebosco: the writer is on point,
lack of infratructure was the onle problema obj had in his term

A man of obj caliber didn't know that infrastructure must be the most important thing to focus on, he must be extensively confused and insincere.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 3:06pm On Dec 09, 2013
juman:

There were massive election rigging during his time.

Despite as a former head of state, he failed woefully as president.


Thank you for your response, but are you current with the recent election that took place in Anambra State were massive ringing took place and people blocked to perform their civic right, this is just one out of many that hapeen in 2011 genreal election.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Nobody: 3:07pm On Dec 09, 2013
undecided
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Emusan(m): 3:23pm On Dec 09, 2013
gbadexy: The writer is correct in a way sha.
It doesn't mean he is not corrupt or a saint, but he is the amongst most sincere.
His achievements were impressive but I suppose •̸Ϟ•̸y most sincere leader would be buharwhy buhari,is it because of his WAR AGAINST INDISCIPLINei.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Emusan(m): 3:25pm On Dec 09, 2013
The GSM we are enjoying today was brought by OBJ REGIM,that alone is enough to qualified him as a good leader.
[quote author=Emusan][/quote]

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Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by juman(m): 3:42pm On Dec 09, 2013
zeen nurei:

Thank you for your response, but are you current with the recent election that took place in Anambra State were massive ringing took place and people blocked to perform their civic right, this is just one out of many that hapeen in 2011 genreal election.

The performance of present government should not be the standard to compare obj regime.

Despite the anambra elction that was bad, the national inec has been performing better and better before. For example the election in ondo was very good(nigerian standard). But agreed the election in anambra was minus to inec.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by DerideGull(m): 3:44pm On Dec 09, 2013
zeen nurei: Cambridge University scholar of African history, John Iliffe, has this to say about Obj: ” Obasanjo having been an active opponent of apartheid and an architect of the African Union. THE MOST IMPORTANT AFRICAN LEADER OF THIS GENERATION , Obasanjo has had an extraordinarily diverse career as soldier, politician, statesman, farmer, author, political prisoner, Baptist preacher, and family patriarch. As a soldier, he secured the victory in Nigeria’s civil war” . In a nutshell , even in his life time his history is being written favorably

He has been at fore front of African affairs.
His leadership has been felt much more than in Africa continent . Obj was the leader of G77, comprising most developing countries of the world . When he was president of G77 he started the campaign for global debt relief arguing that the so call debt was another form of enslavement . Later the western world agreed to debt relief , but only to poorest countries in the world, excluding Nigeria but Obj fought on for Nigeria.

Now back to Nigeria . I know those of you who don’t like the man for whatever reason , I know some just hate him because he does not belong to their political or ethnic side but that is the reality of human beings .

Here is a man who met external reserve of Nigeria at $2 billion and within 8 years left it at $68 billion .Even though the price of oil , in real terms , was the lowest in the history of petroleum when he came in . A barrel of oil was sold $9 per barrel .

He met external debt at $ 35 billion and left it at none .
He met 200 thousand functioning fones left it at over 70 million.
He met Stock Market Capitalisation @ 400bn left it 13 trillion naira...As at when he left office Nigeria stock market was best performing in d world.
We know the Story today..6yrs after all his legacies were destroyed.

May God help Nigeria.



I do not know if the John Iliffe is an African or Nigerian however if he is either African or Nigerian, it is unfortunate that Cambridge University education did dent his inferior mentality. In the first paragraph of this unfortunate thread, the author raised two distinctive issues as he praised Obasanjo an opponent of Apartheid and opponent of Biafra who helped secured victory for Nigeria in the civil war.

It is very ironic the so-called Cambridge University scholar did not notice the parallel between the struggles against Apartheid and for homeland by Biafrans. The only difference in both struggles is the absence of Europeans. I have already noticed that it takes Europeans in any cadre for an African to validate his/her humanity. It really sucks.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 4:47pm On Dec 09, 2013
DerideGull:



I do not if the John Iliffe is an African or Nigerian however if he is either African or Nigerian, it is unfortunate that Cambridge University education did dent his inferior mentality. In the first paragraph of this unfortunate thread, the author raised two distinctive issues as he praised Obasanjo an opponent of Apartheid and opponent of Biafra who helped secured victory for Nigeria in the civil war.

It is very ironic the so-called Cambridge University scholar did not notice the parallel between the struggles against Apartheid and for homeland by Biafrans. The only difference in both struggles is the absence of Europeans. I have already noticed that it takes Europeans in any cadre for an African to validate his/her humanity. It really sucks.

Sir, Prof John Iliffe (born 1 May 1939) is a British historian, specialising in the History of Africa. Iliffe is professor at St John's College, Cambridge. He was awarded the 1988 Herskovits Prize for The African Poor. He is one of the best african historian in the world.

OBJ fought for the unity of and succession of this country not contrary Sir, which is a credit for all soldiers that fought for the same thing during the civil war.

NO VICTOR, NO VANQUISHED
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 09, 2013
Arrant nonsense!

This is similar to saying that GEJ brought us Facebook
or that Abacha brought us the personal computer.

In any case if any leader should be credited for GSM, that should go to Abacha he was first to issue GSM licences
Emusan: The GSM we are enjoying today was brought by OBJ REGIM,that alone is enough to qualified him as a good leader.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by Sloan: 5:21pm On Dec 09, 2013
Abagworo:

GEJ did not destroy Obasanjo's legacy but rather continued with it at a slower pace. GEJ is trying his best but he was not created to be a leader and people take him for a ride. Most people around him do what pleases them and not what pleases GEJ including his own wife.

This guy...+1 for you! Why are you so much on point, most of the time? grin grin angry angry
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 6:18pm On Dec 09, 2013
GenBuhari: Arrant nonsense!

This is similar to saying that GEJ brought us Facebook
or that Abacha brought us the personal computer.

In any case if any leader should be credited for GSM, that should go to Abacha he was first to issue GSM licences

Good point my guy
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by zeennurei(m): 6:56pm On Dec 09, 2013
juman:

The performance of present government should not be the standard to compare obj regime.

Despite the anambra elction that was bad, the national inec has been performing better and better before. For example the election in ondo was very good(nigeria standard). But agreed the election in anambra was minus to inec.

But Sir, you and I knows the level of awareness during OBJ era and that of present administration in terms of so many angles in democracy.

Finally, am glad that you accepted that anambra election ruined all the INEC credit if there's any inoder word GEJ govt is not ready to make things right in this our dear nation.
Re: Obasanjo The Most Sincere President Nigeria Ever Produced By Prof John Illiffe by DerideGull(m): 7:02pm On Dec 09, 2013
zeen nurei:

Sir, Prof John Iliffe (born 1 May 1939) is a British historian, specialising in the History of Africa. Iliffe is professor at St John's College, Cambridge. He was awarded the 1988 Herskovits Prize for The African Poor. He is one of the best african historian in the world.

OBJ fought for the unity of and succession of this country not contrary Sir, which is a credit for all soldiers that fought for the same thing during the civil war.

NO VICTOR, NO VANQUISHED


I assumed you know that words of John Iliffe are not gospel. Both in South Africa and Biafra, people struggled for freedom and homeland. It does not surprise me that John Iliffe is a British historian. Only deluded fool will believe in any letter from the idiotic conjecture known as “NO VICTOR, NO VANQUISHED”.

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