What is a generational curse and how does one incur such a curse? Is it fair for offsprings to be held culpable for the deeds of their forebears?

Is there a legal system in the world that hold the children responsible for the deeds of their parents?

I think generational curses are said to be curses resulting from the evil deeds of one or more ancestors.

A lot of people blame their lack of progress, inability to have meaningful relationships, etc, on generational curses.

Personally, I doubt a lot of this stuff, because if it were true, then the descendants of slave traders of old should be the most wretched people in the world today, but most times that isnt the case.

And if it were true, Germany and Europe in general should be the poorest countries due to their past roles in various pogroms and the holocaust. 

I've also seen folks saying Africa is the way it is today because of her role in the slave trade. Once again, that's questionable, since not all Africans are dirt poor. Other countries which are struggling with poverty, did not necessarily engage in slave trading. So how do you explain their situation?


In general, individuals shouldnt be held culpable for the deeds of their fathers. People have genes from both father and mother, so no one is 100% from his father alone. There's always input from a mother. If someone did not directly participate in his ancestor's misdeeds, then he shouldnt be held accountable for them. Most times the burden of even knowing thats where the person sprung from, is enough punishment on its own, for those who care.

Of course there are exceptions. If the misdeeds are on a societal level (eg black/white, caste system in India and so on), then action may be needed to redress the wrongs of the past.

huxley:


Is there a legal system in the world that hold the children responsible for the deeds of their parents?

None that I know of, right now.

My dear stop burdering ur self with generational causes, rather counter them with generational blessings. Generational cause was place on de moabites, but RUTH became the grand mother of JESUS. U CAN READ DE BOOK OF RUTH.
GOD BLESS U.

Hi.
God said:i shall put punishment of the father even to the fourth generation.
He also said:i will have mercy on whom i will have mercy.
Generational curse's is very real especially in Africa;let's begin with other part's of the world.those that came to Africa and took slave's, have their fourth generation not died out since? do remember that they paid for most of the slave's:who were sold by their own people.
Also remember that there was a time in Europe when witche's were tortured to death when ever they are found out.in Africa,especially Nigeria they let witche's go more often than not,after they have confessed about their destuctive way's.and know this,the witche's and wizard's in Nigeria are 90% destructive!
How can most people grow when their father or mother are right about now planning or putting finishing touches to how someone who minded his business,worked hard and honestly to make it big be put to death?
I have seen how wicked people can get.
A lot of the people making real progress today had walked a good path and their parent's did same.it is mostly around here that people watch over other people's live's spiritually.
Nigeria is writhing in pains as a direct result of this;wickedness is too much.

My dear Huxley.
It is not fair that one suffer for what one directly had no hand in;but we can't judge God,his decision's are final!
there are many dark secrets keeping Nigeria down.i believe 90% of Nigerian's have dark secrets about their existence that they know nothing about yet:finding out these secrets and their evil content can shock and shake one to his/her marrow's.
A popular pastor found his with help of our effective and efficient G O. the guy too can't fathom why the sin of his grand daddy had to rest at his door-step.
I found out mine and only recently stopped asking:why,why,why.
If mysterious occurence's abound in your life,then,then ask the oldies in your clan about family history or secrets that might have been carefully shrouded from you.
This is a very serious issue.

Their is no legal system in this world but Nigeria where the police still hold people who knew nothing about a relative's felony,responsible for their action kudos to mr Babatunde Fashola's administration that made it clear to brother's who are very unlucky to be on the wrong side of the knowledge.you know there are many ignoramuses in the police rank,some even charge people for wandering,a military decree that has been scraped out since 1999!
Truth is:in the spiritual realm; they don't care what you think or believe,they just take one to task and expect one to fight back or die,the choice is up to the person involve.
The bible states that:we fight not against flesh and blood,but against powers and principalities,spiritual wickedness in high place's.you want to take this to heart.
In case you neva know,omo na war we dey.na either me or them and i decide say na dem must go!

james1:

My dear Huxley.
It is not fair that one suffer for what one directly had no hand in;but we can't judge God,his decision's are final!
there are many dark secrets keeping Nigeria down.i believe 90% of Nigerian's have dark secrets about their existence that they know nothing about yet:finding out these secrets and their evil content can shock and shake one to his/her marrow's.
A popular pastor found his with help of our effective and efficient G O. the guy too can't fathom why the sin of his grand daddy had to rest at his door-step.
I found out mine and only recently stopped asking:why,why,why.
If mysterious occurence's abound in your life,then,then ask the oldies in your clan about family history or secrets that might have been carefully shrouded from you.
This a very serious issue.

It contradicts Justice for one to suffer for the sins of his parents, grandparents etc. And since God is the Living Justice, it is impossible for any human being to reap what he has not previously sown. The problem with most humans is that they have poor spiritual memory such that when the harvest comes, they have forgotten what  the sowed in the past through their thoughts, words, actions and motives. They thus attribute whatever befalls them to what their parents, ancestors etc did. The laws of God which manifest in love and justice does not permit one to be burdened with the sins of others or to be blessed with the  goodworks of others. It is an irony that people always speek of generational curse but not generational blessings. Both generational curse and blessings does not exist if they are interpreted to mean experiencing the consequences of the the sins or good deeds pepatrated by others. What  people often attribute to generational curse is a manifestation of the Law of attraction of homogenous species, that is like species attract similar species. Thus in families whose ancestors are know to have committed evil deeds like human sacrifies, their decendants living today and complaining of generational curses are attracted to the family because they carry the same sin of human sacrifice or the lust for murder and in some cases are even the same ancestors who have reincarnated in new bodies. They are thus experiencing what they have previously sown in the past. However, because they can not tap into memories from their former lives, they attribute what they are presently experiencing as generational curse. However, no matter what sins we have commited, genuine repentance and conviction in the omnipotence of God can release us from the bondage of evil and its reaction such that the returning evil reactions of our former actions will be disintergrated and cause no harm. Thus he who lives in obedience to the laws of God have nothing to fear for their is nothing mightier than God. The power of God which such a one has recieved through living according to Gods Will will protect him from all evil.

God said i will put the punishment for the sin of the father even to the fourt generation.
How do you interpret that?i have read the bible through and the quran too.
And i did not read them like i do novel's.

james1:

god said i will put the punishment for the sin of the father even to the fourt generation.

I do not believe God said that. It contradicts Justice which is an attribute of God. I do not think that God contradicts his own nature or attributes.

I have discussed this issue with "Justcool" in the past, I wrote to him through his personal e-mail and this is what he said based on his knowlege from the Grail Message:

Generational curse does not imply that it is God who curses the descendants.
"The sins of the fathers shall be vissited on to the sons," does not mean that it is God who does this injustice by making the sons suffer for the sins of their fathers. It is we humans that are responsible for this injustice. How??
I will give an example:
A man teaches his son that God does not exist. This teaching and the belief(atheism) resulting from it is evil will remain in the family. Even after the father dies, the son still carries this belief; and he may teach his sons the same thing. And from generation on to generation the evil continues. Even many years after the man who invented it has died, as long as the belief is still passed down, from generation to generation, in his family, the evil remains. And the consequence of this evil, will remain and afflict the family from generation to generation until one generation realises that this belief is wrong.
If they discard this wrong belief and seek God; they will find the Truth, and consequently, the curse will fall away from them.
Therefore be careful with what you teach your descendants. The man who teaches his descendants wrong teachings, will remain held in the beyond after he dies; he will not be able to ascend to Paradise as long as his wrong teaching remains in the family. Even if it takes centuries.

Therefore be careful with what you teach your descendants. You will be held accountable for whatever you teach people. Even everything you write in the Nairaland forum; you must one day face the consequences.

I definitly agree with him

the 2 of you should understand that God is a God of abundant mercy and also a consuming fire!
should the children not change from the ways of their father(if it is sinful)they will will be rewarded with the sin of their father!

james1:

the 2 of you should understand that God is a God of abundant mercy and also a consuming fire!
should the children not change from the ways of their father(if it is sinful)they will will be rewarded with the sin of their father!

You have admitted in the underlined section of your post that the children are rewarded for the sins they commited and not that of the father. Afteral you used the words "not change from the ways of their father if it sinful"

james1:

the 2 of you should understand that God is a God of abundant mercy and also a consuming fire!
should the children not change from the ways of their father(if it is sinful)they will will be rewarded with the sin of their father!

@ james1
what is your point?? You are just repeating what "Justcool" has already said. Justcool said the same thing with the following words:

justcool:

Even many years after the man who invented it has died, as long as the belief is still passed down, from generation to generation, in his family, the evil remains. [b]And the consequence of this evil, will remain and afflict the family from generation to generation until one generation realises that this belief is wrong.
If they discard this wrong belief and seek God; they will find the Truth, and consequently, the curse will fall away from them.[/b]Therefore be careful with what you teach your descendants. The man who teaches his descendants wrong teachings, will remain held in the beyond after he dies; he will not be able to ascend to Paradise as long as his wrong teaching remains in the family. Even if it takes centuries.

Therefore the children are not being punished for the sins their father commited, the childeren are being punished for their own sins or for doing the evil that their father taught them. If they stop doing the evils that their father did, then their curse will be lifted from them.

Generational curse?
Well, someone may pay for what his parents did but that dosnt mean he had to pay. Neither does he require the servives of so-called deliverance ministers (so-called becasuse there's no such ministry in the bible) to lift the punishment or curse for whosoever the son of man sets free is free indeed!
So what the man needs isnt a bottle of oil but the word of salvation for if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things are past away and all things have become new!
2cor.5:17
Too simple abi? Well that is the thought of carnal christians and of course, preachers who are either ignorant or thieves. Dont be fooled by the simplicity of the gospel for it contains all of God's power to save mankind. . . all who believe for there is no difference.

You cannot curse wat God had blessed. Remember what happened when Balaam the prophet tried to curse God's people Isreal (Num23:19-23).
How much more we who hv a better covenant founded upon better promises. The christian CANNOT be cursed!

LORD HAVE MERCY.

cant emphasize that enough.

more often than not, generational curses tend to show up in relationships- marriages, etc.

are some black men more susceptible or is this my imagination.

na only Jesus fit save us oh!!!

tpia@:

LORD HAVE MERCY.

cant emphasize that enough.

more often than not, generational curses tend to show up in relationships- marriages, etc.

are some black men more susceptible or is this my imagination.

na only Jesus fit save us oh!!!

Yes generational curses are real and they tarry over generations
But when a person gets born again automatically, those curses become null
But there are some cases where the individual needs to be ministered to
So, if for instance that person is aware of these curses, he can visit his pastor for counseling and prayers

Just wondering why some men are so susceptible to generational curses especially when random s.ex is involved.

A case is all over the news.

The notion of generational curse as stipulated in this specific context is preposterous. None of us are paying for what our ancestors have done because our ancestors were not bad people. This is to say that if we are truly paying for the deeds of our ancestors then this would be very much received with open arms.

Obviously such is NOT the case, instead of wasting our faculty trying to brainstorm on such falasies we would be better off diverting our resources to making our world a better place for us and the forth coming generation.

Contrary to OP's fears, our ancestors were saint like, we continue to deceive ourselves in the face of the truth. We would do well to be half illustrous as they were, we need to STOP trading our inheritance for mere fantasy; its about time we stand up and be counted.

Those that infer that they are susceptible to failure are alone in such understanding and should quickly go and seek counseling; the world we live in does not reward effortlessness; even those that put in the hours arent assured success nevermind those that refuse to massage their own God given imagination.

What we all gain pleasure in is chiping in our fair share, drip drop, drip drop slow and steadily creates a body of water. Its NOT all about making millions (although that's good benchmark); its important that we continue to follow-up on the legacy of our ancestors.

Its NOT sufficient to keep looking over our shoulders in aspiration of feral philosophies and customs when we have in our inheritance the tools to solve any problem under the Sun; the human brain.

God so loved human kind and gave to us our mobile faculty such that we may call upon in times of both joy and sorrow; problems and solvabilities.

Many of us spend our live time negotiating hypnotic text and are too proud to tell ourselves the truth. When you come across a find in the form of a N1 coin and attempt to pick it up and get burnt normally our brain will tell us to drop it as due stimilus.

Drop your piping hot coin its time to move-on.

Generational curses are very real,and can come upon a family as a result of such evils as ancestral evil convenants/dedications to idols,the evil deeds of our ancestors and so on. Even when u become born again,u stil have to break such convenants becos they act as an open door,a legal ground for satanic oppression

Generation curse is real. But when a man gives his heart to christ, he is disconnected legally from such curses.

2 Corinthians 5:17
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

The only trouble with many is that after bring disconnected by the blood of christ, lack of renewal of mind by Gods Word still keep them under the atmosphere of the old life and curses. But if a man schools himself in the knowledge of his new nature, the legal experience will become a vital reality. He will reign over every work of darkness .

Wake-up!

If you want to spend your entire life living on moonlight stories then you can be my guest, but the TRUTH is glaring for all to see. You arguement is based on sexed-up literature that tells you to believe that you are cursed

If ever there was a self-inflicting weapon in the hands of ones enemy, the bible and the quaran has to rank up as the greatest ever fashioned.

The problem is even more drastic than first thought, you are quoting from foreign text in an attempt to argue your own demise

STOP AND THINK

Drop your piping hot stone, its time to move on.

Delusions, thats what these are; delusions that are easily cured by way of being truthful to ones self. Most of us are like bad victims of a dupe that deliberately refuses to admit to ourselves that we have been duped and instead choose to exacerbate issues by trying to expose these same afflictions to our immediate community. Eventhough many of us might merely be ignorant of much of the reality of things, this cease to be the case when we begin to develop an apetite for anysort of arguement in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary.

Think of it this way:

What has our belief in Jesus or any other foreign ICON ever really done to improve our immediate community?

Why is it that the same community that pitched to us this philosophy refuted it vigourously whilst protecting their own culture and traditions?

What is tradition?

What is culture?

Where have you ever heard of a people trying to demonize their own culture?

Why is either culture or tradition important?

Why is either culture or tradition not important?

What has culture and tradition ever really done to improve our immediate community?

Who are you?

Who am I?

What is the make-up of a person?

What makes a righteous person?

In my opinion, we seem to have lost the focus of the real things that ought to matter in our lives and are trapped in a somewhat narrow-mindset.

Instead of bringing our dreams into fruition we instead waste time in a fruitless attempt to transpose reality into fiction.

Nobody is doubting our grasp of literature and or literacy; there's no competition to that effect. The problem is that we are wasting our mental faculties chasing rainbows (as it were) when there's much important work to be done. You claim to know God yet you cannot determine the difference between what is good for YOU and that which is NOT.

STOP AND THINK

If it is possible for everyone to come back into this world for a second time, i would gladly choose my present vessel, would you?

Take it pr leave it , generational curses exist.

mabell:

generational curses exist.

Says who? And in what context is this phenomenon suppose to exist?

@IShilove: « #18 on: Yesterday at 04:52:43 PM »
[Quote]Generational curses are very real,and can come upon a family as a result of such evils as ancestral evil convenants/dedications to idols,the evil deeds of our ancestors and so on. [b]Even when u become born again,u stil have to break such convenants [/b]becos they act as an open door,a legal ground for satanic oppression[/Quote]Even though you were not party to it, and you are now a good person and a true believer?
Will the reverse be the case as in blessing, even when the progeny becomes an evil person and a complete disbeliever?

God does not practice Injustice hence He will not allow evil to be transferred upon a good person, a believer just because he carries the blood of an ancient evil doer and disbeliever.

The opposite is the case with an evil person who is a disbeliever, though he might have carried the blood of a good man, a believer.

Every soul is responsible for what the heart does. The consequence of the action brought by the heart on the body is borne by the soul.