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Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Macelliot(m): 10:04pm On Dec 14, 2013
People kept saying that, 'Catholics are worshipping Virgin Mary,' but I wants to prove them wrong.
* Firstly, we 'Catholics' are not worshipping Virgin mary, but instead, honouring her.
* Secondly, the holy bible made us to know in Luke 1:26-31 that the Arch-angel Gabriel visited Virgin Mary and greeted her saying, "you are full of grace, the Lord is with you, blessed are you among women and blessed in the fruit of your womb, Jesus." Please, which woman again in this world can an Angel greet with such respect. Angel Gabriel honoured Mary, because He delivered the message from GOD. so who are you not to honour her? Are you greater than an Angel of GOD?
* Can Jesus Christ dwell in an unholy body? No ofcourse! She(Mary) is the only woman whom GOD has choosen.
* In Revelation 12:1-18, there was a woman who was clothed by the Sun, the moon under her feet and twelve star as a crown. She was about to deliver a Son and the pain at child birth made her cry. There appeared a dragon, who wanted to kill her, but fail. At that time the Archangel Michael fought the dragon and defeat the it. What I wanted to bring out here is that during the birth of Jesus Christ. King Herod wanted to kill Jesus by killing all the children atleast 2yrs, thinking He kill Jesus, but He failed.
* Last, but not the least. Blessed Virgin Mary was Clothed by the Sun, the moon as foot-mat and 12 stars as crown. Waoh! That's great! Anybody that condems Catholics by saying we are worshipping Mary is so jealous, [s]because no woman in that person's generations or generations to come, even grand, great, great-great-great-great-great-great-grand mother of that person combined together[/s] is as great as Blessed Virgin Mary.
We 'Catholics.' Our doctrines lies on mysterious teachings.' where ignorance, fools, pharisees and sadducees people can never understand. JESUS CHRIST teaches in parable, even His diciple couldn't understand Him, unless He explains it like ABC. So that is how Catholics are. You will keep on condeming Catholics until you know their mysterious teachings, then you will understand clearly. Thanks.

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by berryldilty(f): 10:14pm On Dec 14, 2013
take five jare

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by tobillionaire(m): 10:31pm On Dec 14, 2013
she was a virgin b4 she gave birth to Jesus... BT after d birth of Jesus Christ,, she's no more a virgin... abi she no born 4 Jesus no God can use anybody, our body is d temple of d living god.. js make urself a living sacrifice, holy, touch not d unclean finz

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by fijiano202(m): 11:10pm On Dec 14, 2013
OP u are a fool with astericks,Firstly how can we be jealous of mary when we serve the same Jesus,Secondly ur doctrines may tell you that you are not greater than angels but me and my own family are greater than all angels in heaven and on earth cos we are created in Gods image,read ur bible to understand that.Thirdly the way catholics interpret bible is their greatest doom cos Jesus clearly states it in the bible that ''NOBODY GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THRU ME'' so worshipping mary wont take you to anywhere and also the mary u catholics worship is an idol.Fourthly theres no virginity after giving birth and mary has other kids......do you want more,just ask and it shall be given

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by JENMAUCY(f): 4:10am On Dec 15, 2013
Dear fijiano,I dnt think there is need calling names here,you can believe or leave it because you are entitle to your own opinion...but the truth still remains that virgin mary is blessed,as the op said,go to luke 1:27_28,here the angel told her that she is favoured and blessed among women,remember its a message from God,and I know that the angel deliver the message the way the sender ask him to. Let's go futher to verse 40-42,elizabeth stil cal her blessed,because of what she felt immediately she step into her home,it doesn't mean that the angel or elizabeth is worshiping her rather they apreciate what she accepted to do...or did you forget that heaven and earth await her answer after the angel have delivered the message? Yes heaven waits to hear her answer and in verse 38 she said behold am the handmaid of the Lord be it done to me according to thy word...do you know what it means? Even the angel can't leave without hearing her opinion on the message..then in verse 43 ,elizabeth asked her who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me? My dear friends the angel $ elizabeth greeting makes up the hail mary you people hear today...hail mary full of grace the Lord is with you(angel..luk 1:28 )...blessed aree you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb (elizabeth luk 1:42 ) then the catholic church taking a look @ what happened at canna in that wedding feast,the role mary played in that miracle that takes place there decides to ask for her intercession not praying to hher! If she can intercede when she is not asked ,what did you think will hapen when she is asked to? She talked to her son and he oblige her on earth even when he is not ready to perform..or do you think Jesus is not aware that the drink has finished? That is where holy mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and till the hour of our death....

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by JENMAUCY(f): 4:28am On Dec 15, 2013
Coming to the issue of image,its just like a picture you keep in to remember them...just like the cross,its for remembrance..bowing or genuflecting doesn't mean worshiping...just like the way you greet your elder...kneeling is stil sign of respect just as we do before our earthly elders or kings...why the fuss over hers? Many people don't even know about the mysteries associated with the rosary,infact they are the rosary itself...I mean the glorious mystery,the mystery of light,joyful and sorrowful mysteries. So I think we ought to give honour to whom its due. With due respect I rest my case

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by fijiano202(m): 8:37am On Dec 15, 2013
Firstly OP am really sorry for my insultive words,May God forgive us all,Secondly @jenmaucy am not trying to oppose ur belief but Mary was only refered to as Blessed during the pregnancy of Christ,immediately after Christ Birth she was called blessed Mary again,after Jesus birth mary was less significant in the bible,the main reason she was refer to as blessed was because she was chosen to carry Jesus outta million Lady,check ur bible to confirm that.Thirdly why do catholic refer to marry as mother of God when we clearly know Jesus is not God,even Jesus recognize God in heaven as his father ,check john 3:16 and the lords prayer.Fourthly do you know calling Mary as mother of God is blasphemy? am awaiting ur response

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by PastorOluT(m): 9:23am On Dec 15, 2013
U Catholics never cease to amaze me, who else will always seek justification for what he is doin, cant y'all see that something is wrong somewhere for always seeking justification for worshiping/honoring Mary?

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by try69: 10:17am On Dec 15, 2013
Pastor Olu T: U Catholics never cease to amaze me, who else will always seek justification for what he is doin, cant y'all see that something is wrong somewhere for always seeking justification for worshiping/honoring Mary?

We justify because YOU have chosen not to keep your mouth shut of what you have no idea of.

Pastor indeed, who ordained you and asked you to start bashing catholics?

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by PastorOluT(m): 10:43am On Dec 15, 2013
try69:

We justify because YOU have chosen not to keep your mouth shut of what you have no idea of.

Pastor indeed, who ordained you and asked you to start bashing catholics?

Listen let give u an example n pls do think about it maybe u will see some light? How absurd would it be for Adenuga going about saying he is c.e.o of Glo, or going about saying he is a yoruba man n can speak the language?

If he starts doing that it means something is definitely wrong somewhere!

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Empredboy(m): 11:04am On Dec 15, 2013
U dnt knw d bible. Jesus is God n dats y catholic cald mary mother of God. John 1:1
fijiano202: Firstly OP am really sorry for my insultive words,May God forgive us all,Secondly @jenmaucy am not trying to oppose ur belief but Mary was only refered to as Blessed during the pregnancy of Christ,immediately after Christ Birth she was called blessed Mary again,after Jesus birth mary was less significant in the bible,the main reason she was refer to as blessed was because she was chosen to carry Jesus outta million Lady,check ur bible to confirm that.Thirdly why do catholic refer to marry as mother of God when we clearly know Jesus is not God,even Jesus recognize God in heaven as his father ,check john 3:16 and the lords prayer.Fourthly do you know calling Mary as mother of God is blasphemy? am awaiting ur response

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by try69: 11:10am On Dec 15, 2013
Pastor olu t: Listen let give u an example n pls do think about it maybe u will see some light? How absurd would it be for Adenuga going about saying he is c.e.o of Glo, or going about saying he is a yoruba man n can speak the language?

If he starts doing that it means something is definitely wrong somewhere!


Adenuga would do those if people choose to start telling him he is not the c.e.o of his own company, that he's not of his own tribe and cannot even relate in his own dialect..

I expect you to be teaching your clients on a holy day as this and not be looking for pecks in a system older than the book you teach from.

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by fijiano202(m): 12:30pm On Dec 15, 2013
Empredboy: U dnt knw d bible. Jesus is God n dats y catholic cald mary mother of God. John 1:1
how old are you,are you sure u are educated,pls try to read john 3:16,are u telling me God sent himself?

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by DKJaleel: 12:37pm On Dec 15, 2013
fijiano202: OP u are a fool with astericks,Firstly how can we be jealous of mary when we serve the same Jesus,Secondly ur doctrines may tell you that you are not greater than angels but me and my own family are greater than all angels in heaven and on earth cos we are created in Gods image,read ur bible to understand that.Thirdly the way catholics interpret bible is their greatest doom cos Jesus clearly states it in the bible that ''NOBODY GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THRU ME'' so worshipping mary wont take you to anywhere and also the mary u catholics worship is an idol.Fourthly theres no virginity after giving birth and mary has other kids......do you want more,just ask and it shall be given
u don post better comment for your eyes now abi??

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Empredboy(m): 2:28pm On Dec 15, 2013
My bro free ur mind, i understand u. See things is wat diff catholic frm other churches..1.. Trinity...2... Tradition of d church. Nw my argument wit u is base on trinity. If u understand dat there re 3 persons in 1 God than u wil understand why marry is d mother of God. Bro if u re a JW den it wil b difficult 2 make u understand.
fijiano202: how old are you,are you sure u are educated,pls try to read john 3:16,are u telling me God sent himself?

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Nsonso: 2:52pm On Dec 15, 2013
@ macelliot
I am a catholic. We know & are 100% sure of our doctrine. We are not arguing wit anybody abt Mother Mary neither ar we pressing to give anybody proofs. Dear, d post is uncalled for as they will never be humble to listen let alone accept. This will generate into profane & unprofitable words which are not doing any gud to our spirituality; instead it provides an occassion for sin.
Peace of Christ Jesus be wit u.

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Nsonso: 2:59pm On Dec 15, 2013
@ fijiano202
Pls dear where is it written in d bible dat u are greater than d angels?

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Macelliot(m): 3:00pm On Dec 15, 2013
fijiano202: Firstly OP am really sorry for my insultive words,May God forgive us all,Secondly @jenmaucy am not trying to oppose ur belief but Mary was only refered to as Blessed during the pregnancy of Christ,immediately after Christ Birth she was called blessed Mary again,after Jesus birth mary was less significant in the bible,the main reason she was refer to as blessed was because she was chosen to carry Jesus outta million Lady,check ur bible to confirm that.Thirdly why do catholic refer to marry as mother of God when we clearly know Jesus is not God,even Jesus recognize God in heaven as his father ,check john 3:16 and the lords prayer.Fourthly do you know calling Mary as mother of God is blasphemy? am awaiting ur response
Firstly, Jesus reffered himself as the Son of God. So the Son is the same as the Father.
Jesus said, "I am in my Father and My Father in Me."
For Example.
Your name is Emmanuel James and your father's name is Emmanuel Ben.
If you wants to be addressed, you will be addressed as Mr. Emmanuel.

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by fijiano202(m): 3:56pm On Dec 15, 2013
Nso-nso:
@ fijiano202
Pls dear where is it written in d bible dat u are greater than d angels?
honestly all humans are greater than all angels,reason is we are created in Gods image

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by uchez2(m): 4:18pm On Dec 15, 2013
fijiano202: how old are you,are you sure u are educated,pls try to read john 3:16,are u telling me God sent himself?

Do u believe in Holy Trinity? If u do then u will know why Jesus is God.

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by fijiano202(m): 4:48pm On Dec 15, 2013
uchez2:
Do u believe in Holy Trinity? If u do then u will know why Jesus is God.
The trinity is God the father,Jesus the son and the holy spirit,he said me and my father are 1 and with christain understanding the trinity is 1 cos the work hand-in-hand,my question why dont catholics refer to the Holy spirit as God or why cant you call Jesus as holy spirit? Or tell me mary is the mother of the holy spirit? dont be confused dude,the Father in Heaven is Different to Jesus and Jesus is diff from the Holy spirit

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Nobody: 5:09pm On Dec 15, 2013
So because an angle said so you must honour her. Are you an angel?

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Nsonso: 1:28am On Dec 16, 2013
@fajiano202
Pls study Psalm 8 & Jude verse 8-11.
Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by fijiano202(m): 9:51am On Dec 16, 2013
Nso-nso:
@fajiano202
Pls study Psalm 8 & Jude verse 8-11.
thanks for the bible verse,i got to learn some things luke 20:34-36,hebrew 2:7-9 but am not ignorant abt Mary
Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Nobody: 10:54am On Dec 16, 2013
Shut d Bleep up,,,you are blunt,blind,decieved,and inflated with false doctrine,,,mary was a vessel used and John said free u recieve and free u shall give...mary recieved d grace free of charge not of any effort of her own, afterall she already had a fiancee Joseph, although not like fiancee of nawadays, and later she got married and had children...if u say No.. wot do married pple do? They tie there hands and look at each other,, we are not made to honour marry instead d Bible said Honour d lord thy God...Mary is an Icon in d Bible but not to be moulded and honour, rember God is a jelous God.. Mary has been used to do a marvelous wk and God shuld be praised not mary,, are u mad ....sory.... pls be guided

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by JENMAUCY(f): 11:14am On Dec 16, 2013
Pls fijiano, luk 1:42 down,when mary step into Elizabeth house what is the first word that came out from Elizabeth mouth? She asked who am I that the mother of my lord came to visit me? Why did she use lord instead of saviour? Am waiting....as for those saying that she is used and drop,what about what hapened at the wedding feast? What about the word on the cross? Go to john 19:26_27 and get back to me am waiting...

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Ruq: 11:38am On Dec 16, 2013
I don't get, you asked if we are greater than Angels, I thought God made that clear that we were ?

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by SalC: 11:54am On Dec 16, 2013
nwajoshua: Shut d Bleep up,,,you are blunt,blind,decieved,and inflated with false doctrine,,,mary was a vessel used and John said free u recieve and free u shall give...mary recieved d grace free of charge not of any effort of her own, afterall she already had a fiancee Joseph, although not like fiancee of nawadays, and later she got married and had children...if u say No.. wot do married pple do? They tie there hands and look at each other,, we are not made to honour marry instead d Bible said Honour d lord thy God...Mary is an Icon in d Bible but not to be moulded and honour, rember God is a jelous God.. Mary has been used to do a marvelous wk and God shuld be praised not mary,, are u mad ....sory.... pls be guided
I thought the bible also said honour your father and mother,

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by SalC: 11:58am On Dec 16, 2013
Ruq: I don't get, you asked if we are greater than Angels, I thought God made that clear that we were ?
Oh I thought Heb2V7 said God made us for a while lower than the angels.

Don't be too fast, you are only going to be greater than the angels in the world to come.

For now, they are greater than you.

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Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by fijiano202(m): 12:05pm On Dec 16, 2013
JENMAUCY: Pls fijiano, luk 1:42 down,when mary step into Elizabeth house what is the first word that came out from Elizabeth mouth? She asked who am I that the mother of my lord came to visit me? Why did she use lord instead of saviour? Am waiting....as for those saying that she is used and drop,what about what hapened at the wedding feast? What about the word on the cross? Go to john 19:26_27 and get back to me am waiting...
Re: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Emusan(m): 1:01pm On Dec 16, 2013
Nso-nso:
@ macelliot
I am a catholic. We know & are 100% sure of our doctrine. We are not arguing wit anybody abt Mother Mary neither ar we pressing to give anybody proofs. Dear, d post is uncalled for as they will never be humble to listen let alone accept. This will generate into profane & unprofitable words which are not doing any gud to our spirituality; instead it provides an occassion for sin.
Peace of Christ Jesus be wit u.

Just a question pls
What will happen to those who didn't honour Mary?

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