In the garden of Gethsemane Jesus calls a prayer to his Father. On the cross, he calls out "Father, Father why has thou forsaken me?"

He reminds his followers "Not even the son knows of the second coming, but the Father"

Who is Jesus referring to as the Father? Was he referring to himself? Could Jesus have forsaken himself?

This Huxley guy and his twisted posts!

Brash!:

This Huxley guy and his twisted posts!

what is twisted about this post.

he was talking about his father and not him

I tot Jesus was the son and not the Father. But some christians believe that he is also god, the Father.

@ huxley

Read your Bible. You would see that God and Jesus were never ever the same person. God was the Creator, JC his son and the Holy Ghost. Jesus did not become a part of the Holy Ghost until after the resurrection. also, JC didn't become one with God until he suffered death. He was praying to God the Father and the Holy Ghost. After death Jesus formed the blessed trinity, The Father, the son and the Holy Ghost

it depends on how d person reads d bible and understands it huxley

i believe he is d son of God,because wherever God spoke he called jesus his son

john3:16
matthew3:17

Even jesus himself recognised God as his father

no one comes to the father except through me

matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of[b] my Father[/b]: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Cayon:

@ huxley

Read your Bible. You would see that God and Jesus were never ever the same person. God was the Creator, JC his son and the Holy Ghost. Jesus did not become a part of the Holy Ghost until after the resurrection. also, JC didn't become one with God until he suffered death. He was praying to God the Father and the Holy Ghost. After death Jesus formed the blessed trinity, The Father, the son and the Holy Ghost

Where in the bible or in christian doctrine is this view opined?

Cayon:

@ huxley

Read your Bible. You would see that God and Jesus were never ever the same person. God was the Creator, JC his son and the Holy Ghost. Jesus did not become a part of the Holy Ghost until after the resurrection. also, JC didn't become one with God until he suffered death. He was praying to God the Father and the Holy Ghost. After death Jesus formed the blessed trinity, The Father, the son and the Holy Ghost

absolute garbage!!!

javalove:

absolute garbage!!!

Huxley,you keep asking ques i consider whack but for the purpose of clearing sm people's opinion(not urs)about the topic,i'll answer.


The gospel of john begins with these words:In the begining was the word and the word was with God and the WORD WAS GOD.The same was in the begining with God,all things were made by him and without him was not anything made that was made.(Jn 1:1-4).Chpter 14 says And the WORD was made FLESH and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory . . . . . . . .    .

Realli don't have time to school you in details but read carefully the above words written boldly in CAPITAL letters and draw conclusion frm it.(mtt 1:23)also tells us that JC's name was also to be EMMANUEL meaning GOD  WITH US.

Even "doubting"Thomas acknowledged that Jc was God(jn20:28) And thomas answered and said unto him"MY LORD MY GOD" if JC was not God ,y didn't he correct thomas for saying this?Instead JC answered and said "because thou hast seen me,thou hast believed;blessed are they that have not seen me and yet believed".

Jesus,God and Holyghost =same!!

javalove:

absolute garbage!!!

then remove the cobweb from your pea size brain and enlighten me.

absolute garbage!!!

Thank you.

then remove the cobweb from your pea size brain and enlighten me.

gladly, but first pay attention to what MissyB posted above in John.

Jesus is not just called the Son of God, but also the Word of God. He existed in the beginning as the Word of God, he is he law that was spoken through the prophets. HE IS ONE with the Father. The Word exists not without the Father, and through the Word the Father made his commands.

The Word and the Father may be separate in office but in essence are the same. God does not exist without his Word and the Word cannot exist without God. To separate them in essence is to dissect God.

However the Word is subject to the Father and does nothing unless the Father wills it.
So the Words out of the mouth of God is who we call Jesus the Christ (annointed one).
It's kinda like us humans we may have a thought, but only when we will it, will our words come out of our mouth and cary out our commands.
Your word is your own and your word is you. You are not separate from your word and neither is your word separated from you.

Huxley

Jesus does not stop being God in order to be Christ. Christ means annointed one. Neither does he stop being Christ to becoem God. Basically the Christ and God are the same.

No one cometh onto the Father [/b]but through [b]Me.

Should that be "No one cometh onto the Me but through Me." ?

Matthew 7:15,16

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

~Lady~:


gladly, but first pay attention to what MissyB posted above in John.

Jesus is not just called the Son of God, but also the Word of God. He existed in the beginning as the Word of God, he is he law that was spoken through the prophets. HE IS ONE with the Father. The Word exists not without the Father, and through the Word the Father made his commands.

The Word and the Father may be separate in office but in essence are the same. God does not exist without his Word and the Word cannot exist without God. To separate them in essence is to dissect God.

However the Word is subject to the Father and does nothing unless the Father wills it.
So the Words out of the mouth of God is who we call Jesus the Christ (annointed one).
It's kind of like us humans we may have a thought, but only when we will it, will our words come out of our mouth and cary out our commands.
Your word is your own and your word is you. You are not separate from your word and neither is your word separated from you.

Huxley

Jesus does not stop being God in order to be Christ. Christ means annointed one. Neither does he stop being Christ to becoem God. Basically the Christ and God are the same.

I wonder why you guys are responding to Huxey's post or whatever he calls himself, FYI he isn't posting because he wants to know more because he obviously does but because he wants to ridicule himself not Christianity. let him continue to reel in his foolhardiness, someday he will understand

@cayon,for crying out loud,u are wrong ! ! ! accept it

forget about Huxley, many of the responses here are so laughably false you can almost forgive huxley in his unbelief.

davidylan:

forget about Huxley, many of the responses here are so laughably false you can almost forgive huxley in his unbelief.

hahahah. Cann I expect a sensible response from you? Never!

huxley:

hahahah. Cann I expect a sensible response from you? Never!

You dont want a "sensible answer", you already have a preconcieved mindset . . . were a rock to shout you still wouldnt believe.

davidylan:

You don't want a "sensible answer", you already have a preconcieved mindset . . . were a rock to shout you still wouldnt believe.

Am waiting to be pursuaded by reason, logic and rationalism and NOT superstitious dogma.


Let me ask you - Why don't you believe Mohammed was a prophet of god? Why don't you believe in Sussicorn (Respect)?

huxley:

Am waiting to be pursuaded by reason, logic and rationalism and NOT superstitious dogma.

You cannot persuade a goat to become a cow no matter how much grass you feed it.

huxley:

Let me ask you - Why don't you believe Mohammed was a prophet of god? Why don't you believe in Sussicorn (Respect)?

The bible says - by their fruits ye shall know them.

~Lady~:


Huxley

Jesus does not stop being God in order to be Christ. Christ means annointed one. Neither does he stop being Christ to becoem God. Basically the Christ and God are the same.

I'm so happy with this statement but of what use is a newspaper to a rat?

Missy B:

I'm so happy with this statement but of what use is a newspaper to a rat?

Go pick up a bottle and suck it and leave your brain unperturbed.

huxley:

Go pick up a bottle and suck it and leave your brain unperturbed.

why art thou suddenly so angry?

davidylan:

why art thou suddenly so angry?

guess it because u hurt his feelings wt ur posts

davidylan:

why art thou suddenly so angry?

No, am not angry. Just a bit sarcastic and patronising there.

Shebi Emmanuel = God with us?

huxley:

No one cometh onto the Father [/b]but through [b]Me.

Should that be "No one cometh onto the Me but through Me." ?

They are not siamese twins, go figure.
Huxley why do you want to be persuaded by 'reason, logic and rationalism' by asking people to prove that their 'superstitious dogma' is right? It doesnt add up.

A_K_O:

Huxley why do you want to be persuaded by 'reason, logic and rationalism' by asking people to prove that their 'superstitious dogma' is right? It doesnt add up.

He's not asking to be persuaded . . . without his pretence at playing "please persuade me" there'd be no reason to open yet more threads without him begining to look like a 5yr old fool.

davidylan:

He's not asking to be persuaded . . . without his pretence at playing "please persuade me" there'd be no reason to open yet more threads without him begining to look like a 5yr old fool.

looks like you got angry!

huxley:

looks like you got angry!

that's way too much emotion to expend on patients of OCD.