Lets talk about "Jungle Fever"

Ive seen many movies and many situations whereby a black guy is dating a white girl. This is often referred to as Jungle fever (interrracial relationships - usually used in black/white relationships). The term, Jungle fever depicts its a disease for a relationship between black and white. Believe me, I have seen many white people, very good people, but the moment it becomes a relationship, these so nice people, choke, withdraw and becomes, em almost racist. The same reaction I see in black ladies mostly, who frown rather hard when they see a black guy with a white lady.

Does a black/white relationship have to be a disease? Is there any other thing better than good coming out of such relationships?

I can relate this to intertribal mariages in nigeria. It's not popular and Ive heard of it being refered to as a disease. Is it truely a disease?...maybe a nice disease?

What do you think about interracial relationships? Do you believe its a disease? Do you support it or frown at it?

Nice topic. We can start this discussion where 'Dating a White Lady (or man)' stopped.

So why is it that people who are otherwise not racist, when confronted with the spectacle of a black man or woman dating a white woman or man, discover themselves to be strongly against such relationships? Why is inter-racial dating & marriage frowned upon by so many? Will this change with time?

Please open a new topic if you want to talk about inter-tribal dating & marriage in Nigeria

I see nothing wrong with inter-racial dating. You could lose the one who would truly make you happy if you discrimiate due to race.

Wow vexxy, Just a sentence and you covered it all. I am gonna have to go with vexxy.

I see nothing wrong with it.

True love is colour blind. I see absolutely nothing wrong with inter-racial marriages!

First off: I'm white, my wife is Nigerian, we've been married for 7 years and we have 2 childeren. Just to explain where I'm coming from and to point out that it can work.

Second: I really - and I mean really - hate the term 'Jungle Fever'. It's derogatory and it carries very negative connotations. If you've seen the movie by Spike Lee, you will notice that the implicit message is: don't do it, it will never work out, it's just some sort of disease.

Now back on topic.
Is it good or bad... it depends on how strong the love between the two partners is,on how easy/difficult it is to overcome the objections of the environment and how willing the partners are to overcome the cultural differences.

I want to stress that the willingness of both partners to understand and respect each others culture and habits is paramount to the success of the relationship. The differences on how you deal with life, death, having children, the role of the (extended) family, etc are what's going to make or break a relationship. Understanding, acceptance and compromise on these issues is what it needed. That means compromise from both partners and a willingness to go against the opinions of the family if necessary

When there is true love, the problems with the racist attitudes of the environment can be overcome, but working out the cultural differences requires a level of openness, commitment and understanding that is rare in relationships, even between partners of the same race.

In summary, it's not that much of a racial thing as it is a cultural problem

I guess there is nothing wrong with interracial dating/marriage. But count me out, will prefer a black brother anytime, anyday.

What annoys me is the fact that most decent black guys abroad end up dating/marrying white chicks. I mean what are the black chicks doing wrong that makes it so easy for the white chicks to take most of the marriageable black guys.

*I have heard it's about our attitude*

Some men can't deal with a strong black woman

I hear that White chicks are more caring/romantic.

i agree with you White Chicks are da bom, my first gurlfriend was white this gurl was so understanding and she was the best, we broke up coz i acted like a jerk, Black gurls are really not my thing even though i am black and African, they either want gangster or pimps and finally the money. White gurls are i feel more attracted to them than black gurls

I wouldn't know. We have very few white girls in Nigeria! However, I would like to caution against this judging of black girls & white girls based on stereotypes. Afterall, there are exceptions to every rule!

Very true, Seun. Discrimination or generalization of any form is wrong. You never know who you will meet if you allow yourself the chance!

angela k: But count me out, will prefer a black brother anytime, anyday.

From this, we can conclude that you have a problem with skin colour, if it's not black...

angela k: What annoys me is the fact that most decent black guys abroad end up dating/marrying white chicks. I mean what are the black chicks doing wrong that makes it so easy for the white chicks to take most of the marriageable black guys.

I don't get it... I honestly don't understand. A guy is at liberty to date/marry anyone he wants, regardless of skin colour. They're humans for crying out loud, no matter what their skin colour is! It's just a matter of who you connect/fall in love with.

It is only natural that a Nigerian lady abroad, who would rather date and marry a black man (preferably someone from her tribe), would feel threatened by white ladies who are reducing the pool of black men available for 'our' girls!

The only thing you can do to "get" those white girls is this: go ahead and fall in love with their white brothers! Date them, marry them, bring lots of[b] cute black babies[/b] into their families!

seriously, the rate at which black brothers are getting married to White gurls is increasing rapidly most especially down here in DC metro area , I guess the white gurls snap all the "good brothers" from the sistahs.




Interracial babies are always cute

Nothing wrong with it, if you ask me, but you have to tell yourself the truth that you'ld encounter so many oppositions and then ask yourself if you can overcome them.
Anything is possible only if you can stand up for it.

Nddy, I think you raised a big issue regarding the demands of our black babes - mostly money, buy this, buy that etc. Guys needs lovin and thats what we get from the white chicks who want more lovin that the material things.

Btw - Angela K and Vexxy seem to confirm that black women tend to write off black guys who date/marry white ladies. For them, it looks like "isnt there enough pretty black babes out there?"

Vexxy : can you define "as strong black woman?"

Here in the States, Bibi, most black men are saying that black women are only looking for someone to pay their bills.

We define a "strong black woman" as one who is financially stable, has her own benefits (medical, dental), has her own place, doing well in her job, has goals, is working to always better herself. . . in essence she doesn't need a man to handle business for her.  She is well off independent so whomever joins with her must be ready to face a woman who's life will not end if "he's" not around.

"Bibi":
Btw - Angela K and Vexxy seem to confirm that black women tend to write off black guys who date/marry white ladies. For them, it looks like "isnt there enough pretty black babes out there?"

I know very few who write off black men for dating white women.  It is no longer a taboo.

Why can't the white girls marry their fellow white guys?  Nddy and bibi how can you think that black girls are materialistic?
What then do you call the black guys who marry white woman for the purpose of obtaining a green card ? off course this makes life so easy much easy for are black brothers.
Okay, i can now clearly see why they appear to be more caring!

An' K. Good point about the green card thing. Good point.

well i will say why most the black brothers go for the " white chicks" could be due to the VISA STAY they get as prizes for marrying them.
but i did hear dem white babes like and cherish us more.
i wonder how come.

i strongly disagree

i dont know about the visa thing but i am talking mainly of Americans in the states, i aint tlaking of Visa thing, who cares about visa

some people do many naija dudes do want thier "stays" so they do that.
this i know, but cant say its d general reason though.

Damn right! Most guys go with white chicks just to get their "green card" Not[i] Visa. [/i]

but it isn't a nice thing to use marriage to play abt like that u know.
i dont find it a reasonable act.

Trust me hun... when u get here and there's no guarantee of staying.. You'll do it. I have seen so many people do it, those with wives tooo. Once they have the green card, they'll divorce and bring their real wives in. Nigerians have brain. But it's sad though.

Smart Nigerians

To me there is nothing wrong with interracial dating &marriage.

who calls devilish act smart. Men some tymes i just dont know. The Fraudlent attitude is becoming rampantly come and a way of life to some. Those guys aint smart they are foolish.

yahh its bad!

i take marriage is a sacred thing and i dont think iwill want to play with it that way.
but u never can tell , situations could push u to the tip of the cliff.

Obviously I can only speak from experience here in Belgium, but it is a fact that most Nigerians (both men and woman) want to marry a Belgian citizen to obtain a residence permit. In many cases, they just separate once they have the Belgian nationality.

There are a few elements here that make this practice less than admirable:
* a lot of the times we're talking about younger men/women marrying much older women/man (and I shun contacts with these couples, because they make me feel uneasy)
* a lot of these couples are between Nigerians and the less educated part of Belgian society (that's putting it mildly) - what's to ecome of the children
* in most cases it's a contract between unequal (economic, age, education, ...) partners for reasons other than love

That's not to say that all cases are like that, but it gives both parties a very distorted image of each other