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Pls what's ur point?

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What you are saying is nothing new. The gospels have evolved over time as the doctrines of christianity have evolved over time.

The Johannine comma is one addition that has eventually been retracted. There are others that haven't, and others that have. That is partly why there are so many versions of the bible. I don't get what point you are actually trying to make.

^^^
Or is it that His disciple's saw him ascend into Heaven, with this our physical body?
Or was it some sort of spiritual phenomenon?

Your opinion and reason for opinion, please.

Pastor AIO: What you are saying is nothing new. The gospels have evolved over time as the doctrines of christianity have evolved over time.

The Johannine comma is one addition that has eventually been retracted. There are others that haven't, and others that have. That is partly why there are so many versions of the bible. I don't get what point you are actually trying to make.

I couldn't have said this better honestly.

Dizkova: ^^^
I guess, Jesus prolly left Judea, to it's neighbouring towns.
Or is it that His disciple's saw him ascend up into Heaven, with this our physical body?
Or was it some sort of spiritual phenomenon?
Your opinion and reason for opinion, please.

The Codex Sinaiticus (also called the Aleph) was an interesting find. One question some theologians ask is, "If it was so accurate and/or important, why wasn't it as reproduced as some other manuscripts in the early church?". Of course a possible answer is that it got lost / hidden at a point. Another suggestion is that someone ensured a possibly more accurate / earlier account was destroyed so that this one would survive (this reeks of conspiracy, yes).

In either case, I think about 90% of the contents match no matter the manuscripts translated from. The differences tend to be omissions and additions that don't change core Christian doctrines. I would reconsider this stance if, say, we find credible historical records indicating that Jesus DID NOT ascend. That would be a more remarkable find than the literary omission of an event that may or may not have happened.

One of two things happened:

Either Jesus ascended and it was not recorded in the codex Sinaiticus (for one reason or the other).

Or Jesus did not ascend bodily, and someone felt they should add that to the story.

Sadly we currently don't have enough information on this. Mileages will vary by personal choice.

For the record I do not consider the Bible as inerrant, so I don't expect all events recorded in it to be historically accurate.

Other things might come to mind:

What if Jesus didn't want to be seen in his resurrected body by everyone, and appear to only his own? He was known to have liked his privacy while he was alive.

Recall also that in his resurrected body Jesus was said to have walked through walls and doors. I am not sure that body is the kind of flesh that you and I have. We are also told it could be manifested to give a solid feel to the touch (to convince Thomas).

There is really no other example of such a body, that we can possibly understudy. If Jesus indeed ascended / teleported in such a body, it might not be so hard to believe if you believe such a body can exist in the first case.

@InesQor, thanks for your candid reply.

Dizkova: @InesQor, thanks for your candid reply.

You're welcome. I doubt my responses were satisfactory. I really don't have enough answers here...

InesQor: Other things might come to mind:

What if Jesus didn't want to be seen in his resurrected body by everyone, and appear to only his own? He was known to have liked his privacy while he was alive.

Recall also that in his resurrected body Jesus was said to have walked through walls and doors. I am not sure that body is the kind of flesh that you and I have. We are also told it could be manifested to give a solid feel to the touch (to convince Thomas).

There is really no other example of such a body, that we can possibly understudy. If Jesus indeed ascended / teleported in such a body, it might not be so hard to believe if you believe such a body can exist in the first case.

I can’t remember the name of my own thread…it was something about coming to earth to gain a body. Grrrrrrrr…I wish I could find it.

@ bolded
We are so “on the same page”. I’m interested to know if we are thinking alike.

texanomaly:

I can’t remember the name of my own thread…it was something about coming to earth to gain a body. Grrrrrrrr…I wish I could find it.

@ bolded
We are so “on the same page”. I’m interested to know if we are thinking alike.

Remarkable! Now I'm curious. I wish I knew the title, I'd have searched Google's cache for it.

P.S. I really like your poetry. I especially enjoyed the "You don't see me" poem. It gave me vibes of Madonna's "Say Goodbye", one of my favorite songs ever. Good job, Tex

InesQor:
Remarkable! Now I'm curious. I wish I knew the title, I'd have searched Google's cache for it.

P.S. I really like your poetry. I especially enjoyed the "You don't see me" poem. It gave me vibes of Madonna's "Say Goodbye", one of my favorite songs ever. Good job, Tex

Thanks. I love poetry. One of my faves is missing. It's about the preexistence.

Madonna? Was that song 80s or 90s? She didn't get as much credit as was due for her singing, maybe because her personality overpowered it. That is one of her most beautiful songs. Nice!

@Uyi Iredia...do you remember the name of that thread. You started a separate thread to ask what I believe.

www.nairaland.com/1645927/invitation-tex-talk-faith+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kqDQhDmt4dkJ:www.nairaland.com/1645927/invitation-tex-talk-faith+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

texanomaly:

Thanks. I love poetry. One of my faves is missing. It's about the preexistence.

Madonna? Was that song 80s or 90s? She didn't get as much credit as was due for her singing, maybe because her personality overpowered it. That is one of her most beautiful songs. Nice!

@Uyi Iredia...do you remember the name of that thread. You started a separate thread to ask what I believe.

www.nairaland.com/1645927/invitation-tex-talk-faith+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kqDQhDmt4dkJ:www.nairaland.com/1645927/invitation-tex-talk-faith+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

i remember the thread,the title is ''did we come to earth to gain a body?''

Ranchhoddas: i remember the thread,the title is ''did we come to earth to gain a body?''

Now if only I could figure out that cachet thingy...

I found these 2 pages.

www.nairaland.com/1613883/did-come-earth-gain-body+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wLvWEnXvUjQJ:www.nairaland.com/1613883/did-come-earth-gain-body+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


www.nairaland.com/1613883/did-come-earth-gain-body/3+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wpxqGxpY6KMJ:www.nairaland.com/1613883/did-come-earth-gain-body/3+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

texanomaly:
Thanks. I love poetry. One of my faves is missing. It's about the preexistence.
Madonna? Was that song 80s or 90s? She didn't get as much credit as was due for her singing, maybe because her personality overpowered it. That is one of her most beautiful songs. Nice!
@Uyi Iredia...do you remember the name of that thread. You started a separate thread to ask what I believe.
www.nairaland.com/1645927/invitation-tex-talk-faith+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kqDQhDmt4dkJ:www.nairaland.com/1645927/invitation-tex-talk-faith+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Lol mea culpa, the actual title is "Take a Bow".

Thanks, I'll see if I can fetch the pages from Google's cache. I actually feel sorry for Seun.

InesQor:

Lol mea culpa, the actual title is "Take a Bow".

Thanks, I'll see if I can fetch the pages from Google's cache. I actually feel sorry for Seun.

I thought it was "Say Goodbye" too.


I've read the pages I found. I would really like to find all of that thread, but I think it was close to 30 pages. I doubt it can all be found.

@Texanomaly:

Here you go

EDIT: Lol I just realized I posted the wrong links. BRB

@Texanomaly:

Correct links follow:

Did We Come To Earth To Gain A Body?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.nairaland.com%2F1613883%2Fdid-come-earth-gain-body

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.nairaland.com%2F1613883%2Fdid-come-earth-gain-body/1

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.nairaland.com%2F1613883%2Fdid-come-earth-gain-body/2

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.nairaland.com%2F1613883%2Fdid-come-earth-gain-body/3

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.nairaland.com%2F1613883%2Fdid-come-earth-gain-body/4

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Awww.nairaland.com%2F1613883%2Fdid-come-earth-gain-body/5

I will take time to read the posts shortly.

Wow! Thank you.
I could only find two pages of my thread.

texanomaly: Wow! Thank you.
I could only find two pages of my thread.

You're welcome!

What thread? I found 6 pages! Check the updated links above.

InesQor I could kiss you right now! I didn't see that you found mine till I refreshed. You are lucky you are not right in front of me.

texanomaly: InesQor I could kiss you right now! I didn't see that you found mine till I refreshed. You are lucky you are not right in front of me.

You're welcome!

[size=5pt]Maybe someday soon I'll be[/size]

@texanomaly: The first post on that thread looks intriguing. Can't wait to dig in and read the entire thread.

InesQor:
You're welcome!

[size=5pt]Maybe someday soon I'll be[/size]

*blushes*

InesQor: @texanomaly: The first post on that thread looks intriguing. Can't wait to dig in and read the entire thread.

Much of it is others' opinions and derailing. Lol You know...the usual in religion section.

texanomaly:

Much of it is others' opinions and derailing. Lol You know...the usual in religion section.

Lmao! I trust our people!!