How knowledgeable would Jesus have been about the true origins of humankind? Would he have believed the Genesis claims that he created Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden, located somewhere in the Middle East?

What would Jesus make of the almost unimpeachable evidence that the origins of humankind is Africa, between 150000 and 200000 years ago.

If there was no Adam, Eve, Serpent, Eden, etc, etc - what would that do to Jesus's theology of salvation, redemption and punishment?

@Huxley: I want to know about the first part; Jesus being the creator of Adam and Eve in an area of today's Iraq. lol. Your question sometimes is thought provoking. I wonder why you have not done the same in Islam. Then I will cream you!

Its a challenge, with any arrogance, but being assured that Allah will bring success.

olabowale:

@Huxley: I want to know about the first part; Jesus being the creator of Adam and Eve in an area of today's Iraq. lol. Your question sometimes is thought provoking. I wonder why you have not done the same in Islam. Then I will cream you!

Its a challenge, with any arrogance, but being assured that Allah will bring success.

Hey, I have raised same question on the Muslim section. Why don't you go give it a try?

I did already, man. Thanks. lol.

What are the Mohammedans so scared of. They have gone and blocked similar thread on their section.

You know Huxley, I am shocked. I was hoping that you and I have have a good exchange there. I am disappointed. But you got the gist of my answer. I can continue to respond to you here, from the Islamic perspective.

I was disappointed with your answer to my question.  I asked;

How long ago did allah do the creating business? 

And I would like you to be more specific, by give numerical dates (approximation to the nearest ten, hundred, thousand or million may be acceptable) and some general background as to how such dates makes sense and fits in the grand scheme of things.

You claim to be a learned man, and such men are impressed not by glibe statements, but those that have the hallmark of authenticity.


In fact, while you are thinking about the previous question, I want you to also begin to formulate some answers to the following:

1) Why are (were) there no native placental mammals native to Australia? All mammals native to Australia are pouched marsupials.

2) Where does petroleum oils used in cars, for instance, come from?

3) How far is the Sun from the earth?

4) What are stromatolites?

5) What is a fossil?

6) What are X-rays and have you ever been to a modern hospital were radiography is used?

7) What is DNA?

8.) Do you know the meaning of the word "forensic"?

9) Do you own a TV and a computer?

10) Do you know what Cosmic Microwave Background is?




Some food for thought there.

Have a good

You are being ridiculous. I have a business torun. I will not have time for all these silliness that you are into. I have to make payrolls. You are all over the places with your questions. Its a waste of my time. I aint got that much time to waste.

olabowale:

You are being ridiculous. I have a business torun. I will not have time for all these silliness that you are into. I have to make payrolls. You are all over the places with your questions. Its a waste of my time. I aint got that much time to waste.

You may have a business to run but you still spend a lot of time here and on excreble stuff from your religion. Why don't you invest some time on more salubrious material, rather than the dogma of your religion.

The reason I asked these questions are simple - I want to establish the intellectual nature of the character with whom I am to engage in a debate. For it is a waste of time engaging with someone whose mindset belongs to the 7th century.

I trust you shall find some time and engage even one of the question. If there are challenging, shout out.


I really look forward to your creaming me

Have a good day.

Mullah Olabowale,

I am still awaiting me creaming. Can you hurry up please?

@Huxley: « on: October 07, 2008, 11:05 PM »
Below was the question you asked,concerning the knowledge of Muhammad (as) , about the Origin of man. And after it, was my response to your question!

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How knowledgeable would Mohammed have been about the true origins of humankind? Would he have believed the Genesis claims that he created Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden, located somewhere in the Middle East?

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Re: Did Mohammed Know - 1 - Human Origin ?
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@Huxley: « on: Today at 03:58:59 PM » Man. I didn't know that you are this gullible. lol. Now see me cream you!

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How knowledgeable would Mohammed have been about the true origins of humankind?


All the answer you seek is in the Gloriouys Qur'an. And the explanation is in the Tafsir and ahadith relating to the verses concerning the topics. Further, if you read the story of the prophets, you will have complete information of how Adam was created.

Adam is the first man. We in Islam, the follower of Muhammad, the last Messenger and the seal of prophethood, believe in Creation, not evolution. Evolution is a myth, in the imagination of atheist like you.

Now Surah Baqarah, verse 30 tells you about the intention of Allah to create Man, whom He called "His viceroy on earth."


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Would he have believed the Genesis claims that he created Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden, located somewhere in the Middle East?


Verse 35 states that Allah says to Adam and his mate Hawa to enter enter Paradise. That was after the genie known at that time as Iblis, who later became Shaitan had disobeyed Allah, by refusing to prostrate his face to Adam.

This action of disobedience by Iblis was the way used by Allah to reveal the true disbelieving natutre of Iblis. Iblis therefore swore to become an open enemy to Adam, his mate and their progenies; the human race. Allah warned Adam and his mate about Shaitan and his seducing ways. Further Allah warned Adam and his mate not to come near a tree in Paradise.

But Iblis, who soon becameShaitan whispered in suggestion to their hearts to go to the tree. After they took his suggestion, they became aware that they had not heeded the commandment of their Creator!

Soon after, they were sent out of the paradise, down to the earth to dwell in it, untill an appointed time. This is how human came from Paradise, in heaven, on to the earth.

The story of Iraqi garden of Eden is bogus. No true Muslim will accept it. Many questions can be asked of Iraqi's Eden though; where exactly is it and what happened to the tree. They say it is apple, where is the apple tree. lol.

Huxley, read in the name of your Lord who created! Come on man. This is too easy.

A person have to be genuinely practice dishonesty, like you to have claimed that I did not answer your question, as I did above! However when you put a set of irrelevant question as the follow up, I withdrew my interest in participating with you on your "charade!"

It is true that I spend quite a lot of time on Nairaland. But I also know when I should not respond to foolishness. How does simply asking about the knowledge of Muhammad about the start of humanity turns out to the exact time that Adam was created, and all the silly DNA and others that you listed?

Allah who has complete knowledge of things, who is the Creator of all things, created things that are time and place appropriate, providing to us proofs of His Lordship and capability to do as He pleases.

Some of the questions listed you have dubious " answers," for them already. Why bother to put them as if there is new discoveries that you are seeking? This is where your deceitful mind is at play.

olabowale:

@Huxley: « on: October 07, 2008, 11:05 PM »
Below was the question you asked,concerning the knowledge of Muhammad (as) , about the Origin of man. And after it, was my response to your question!


A person have to be genuinely practice dishonesty, like you to have claimed that I did not answer your question, as I did above! However when you put a set of irrelevant question as the follow up, I withdrew my interest in participating with you on your "charade!"

It is true that I spend quite a lot of time on Nairaland. But I also know when I should not respond to foolishness. How does simply asking about the knowledge of Muhammad about the start of humanity turns out to the exact time that Adam was created, and all the silly DNA and others that you listed?

Allah who has complete knowledge of things, who is the Creator of all things, created things that are time and place appropriate, providing to us proofs of His Lordship and capability to do as He pleases.

Some of the questions listed you have dubious " answers," for them already. Why bother to put them as if there is new discoveries that you are seeking? This is where your deceitful mind is at play.

Shows just how delusional you are.  You are prepared to make unsupported claims about the origin of mankind but are unwilling to engage in scholarship that might challenge your barbaric and superstitious beliefs.

Ordinarily I would be surprised, but given what I have come to learn about some Muslims and Christians, their fear of cognitive disonance is quite strong, thus their unwillingness to engage any form of scholarship.

You are free to believe any sort of excreble stuff that tickles your addled mind.  It is a shame that you don't keep such beliefs under your hat but seek to propagate it, converting the weak and gullible to this barbarism. Just think of what is missing from the New York skyline.