This National Geographic photo below shows herds of goats and sheep being shipped to Saudi Arabia from Somali.

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/land-grab/images/pair_2048.jpg


Yes, the same Somali ravaged by war and political instability. The same Somali where the Islamic terrorist group, Alshabaab, has been holding sway long before our own Boko Haram was conceived.

So Somali exports small ruminant livestock abroad. But where are the livestock in Nigeria going to? Definitely not overseas.

I have read somewhere that more than 100 million livestock are produced in Nigeria, which of course has a much larger internal market than Somali. However, I am not sure between the two countries who produces more livestock. One thing that is sure is that even at the current livestock production rate, Nigeria is still far from being self-sufficient in meat consumption. Many people do not eat meat as regularly as they should. Others resort to bush meat, but still on an irregular basis.

Most of the cattle, sheep and goats produced in Nigeria come from the North. Of course, there is small-scale production of these animals in the south, and a much larger scale production of chicken and pig in the south than goat, sheep and cattle. In the absence of export of livestock by Nigeria, one presumes that all the animals not consumed in northern Nigeria are shipped to southern Nigeria. Indeed, it is a daily sight seeing truckloads upon truckloads of these animals heading to Enugu, Lagos, Umuahia, Aba, Port Harcourt and Ibadan, from where they are distributed to other southern cities. That is the power of our huge population and the relative affluence of the average southerner, compared to the average northerner.

Now playing the devil's advocate a little bit. Let's assume for a second that Nigeria splits, say into North and South. Within the time it takes for the different splinter zones to figure themselves out, who buys the livestock from the North? Keep in mind that the North does not have ready access to the sea, neither does it have a rail line extending outside Nigeria, nor would its closest neighbors, Niger, Chad, Cameroon and Benin, be needing their livestock that much, if at all, since they also have theirs.

And for the south, where would they get their meat from while the arrival of ships loads of imported foreign meat is awaited?

The south will go vegan, or flexitaria,pollotaria,pescetaria by necessity and will be healthier for it.

The north will sell cattle to the mid-belt
and the south will buy nama from the mid-belt.

SW will get from subsistence farm products and neigboring benin republic. In fact, currently lots of imported frozen foods, rice, veg. oil e.t.c are smuggled in from benin republic

The North already has Tanneries and Leather Factories which will only need to be expanded and supplemented with new ones. The rest of the meat can be exported to Cameroon, while some could be processed and sold at a premium due to the superior quality to cover the increased costs of trans-oceanic trade that will arise.

Seems it will be a win, win, situation for all. Necessity is the mother of inventions. The south will be wealthier from spending less money on red meats, and subsequently less money for medications,doctors, and less lost production time due to sickness/sick leaves than are necessary now due to the pathogenic effects of excessive animals protein consumption.

prophetone: The North already has Tanneries and Leather Factories which will only need to be expanded and supplemented with new ones. The rest of the meat can be exported to Cameroon, while some could be processed and sold at a premium due to the superior quality to cover the increased costs of trans-oceanic trade that will arise.

Does Cameroon need your meat? If so why are they not importing it already?

emiye: SW will get from subsistence farm products and neigboring benin republic. In fact, currently lots of imported frozen foods, rice, veg. oil e.t.c are smuggled in from benin republic

Do they also smuggle cow, sheep and goat from Benin into SW?

emiye: SW will get from subsistence farm products and neigboring benin republic. In fact, currently lots of imported frozen foods, rice, veg. oil e.t.c are smuggled in from benin republic

How sustainable will this smuggling be?

AkinEgba:

Does Cameroon need your meat? If so why are they not importing it already?

It's because a ready market south of the Niger already exists. It's all about strategic market positioning. Competitive pricing coupled with other marketing strategies will trigger demand from the Cameroonians which will be overwhelmingly met.

prophetone:

It's because a ready market south of the Niger already exists. It's all about strategic market positioning. Competitive pricing coupled with other marketing strategies will trigger demand from the Cameroonians which will be overwhelmingly met.

Cameroon produces lots of livestock as well, so won't be needing any from Nigeria.

It is very likely that even if Nigeria separates the north will still have to depend on the south for the sale of its livestock produce. No other readier and nearer market.

ZnO: It is very likely that even if Nigeria separates the north will still have to depend on the south for the sale of its livestock produce. No other readier and nearer market.

ZnO:

Cameroon produces lots of livestock as well, so won't be needing any from Nigeria.

Stop speaking of what you know NOTHING of. Cameroon imports beef from far way Botswana so there's no reason they would not patronize cheaper and better quality beef. Our leather is already being bought in Italy.

Now, ZnO tell me where you will get your beef, maize and vegetable from.

rexzqcom: The south will go vegan, or flexitaria,pollotaria,pescetaria by necessity and will be healthier for it.

[size=16pt]The north can sell their goat and cows to Niger Republic, Burkina Faso or Chad.
Just like South Africa and other progressive nations, the south will develop modern animal husbandry. In the immediate period after a breakup, we shall import even cheaper and healthier beef and poultry like other decent countries.[/size]

prophetone:



Stop speaking of what you know NOTHING of. Cameroon imports beef from far way Botswana so there's no reason they would not patronize cheaper and better quality beef. Our leather is already being bought in Italy.

Now, ZnO tell me where you will get your beef, maize and vegetable from.

FAO data as of 2011, Nigeria and Cameroon have nearly similar levels of livestock production (livestock production index of 122.97 for Nigeria and 120.27 for Cameroon), yet the populations are starkly different.

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/AG.PRD.LVSK.XD/rankings

Factoring population, it means that per capita, Cameroon produces more livestock than Nigeria. This explains why they do not import livestock from Nigeria.

What they import from Botswana is likely processed meat and not livestock. I hope you know the difference
Regarding your question on vegetable, it depend on which. The south produces a lot of its own vegetables.

BTW, this thread is about meat and not crops. Thank you.

Nig v Cam livestock production

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/AG.PRD.LVSK.XD/compare?country=cm#country=cm:ng

ZnO:

FAO data as of 2011, Nigeria and Cameroon have nearly similar levels of livestock production (livestock production index of 122.97 for Nigeria and 120.27 for Cameroon), yet the populations are starkly different.

http://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/AG.PRD.LVSK.XD/rankings

Factoring population, it means that per capita, Cameroon produces more livestock than Nigeria. This explains why they do not import livestock from Nigeria.

What they import from Botswana is likely processed meat and not livestock. I hope you know the difference
Regarding your question on vegetable, it depend on which. The south produces a lot of its own vegetables.

BTW, this thread is about meat and not crops. Thank you.

1. Don't be confused, MEAT is the subject here and not just livestock. I was never referring to unprocessed meat for export. All our livestock intended for mutton/beef/poultry etc. will be slaughtered, processed and packaged for export.

2. The fact that they import meat from Botswana means a market, therefore demand, exists.

prophetone:

1. Don't be confused, MEAT is the subject here and not just livestock. I was never referring to unprocessed meat for export. All our livestock intended for mutton/beef/poultry etc. will be slaughtered, processed and packaged for export.

2. The fact that they import meat from Botswana means a market, therefore demand, exists.

Well Cameroon does not need your meat. It is obvious because if they do, they already would have been importing it now instead of from far away Botswana

For now, you do not have a history of exporting livestock, let alone processed meat. If it happens in future, do you not think the South can also start producing its own livestock in the future? There are modern ways of intensive animal husbandry as opposed to the pastoralism going on in Northern Nigeria.

Prophetone:

And do not forget that despite all the meat we get from our local livestock, we still import tons of poultry and tinned beef (aka corned beef). So the south will definitely continue with importation while they devise a new, modern livestock production system

In the short term the south will have to import meat from other countries. In the long run with the more educated folks in the south, they will simply go into modern animal husbandry.

The north will still sell meat to the south since they are neighbours but they will also export more meat to other countries so as not to be seen to be too dependent on the southern market.

It will be win win for everyone on the long run

ZnO:

Well Cameroon does not need your meat. It is obvious because if they do, they already would have been importing it now instead of from far away Botswana

For now, you do not have a history of exporting livestock, let alone processed meat. If it happens in future, do you not think the South can also start producing its own livestock in the future? There are modern ways of intensive animal husbandry as opposed to the pastoralism going on in Northern Nigeria.

1. First of all, I just noticed this is a competition between north and south which i think is childish and not my intention. What i was discussing is more of self-sustenance in the event of dismemberment as opposed to one-upmanship. Nobody said both regions cannot be mutually prosperous nations and our division will simply be the manifestation of the desires of the people.

2. That been said, the north has the sheer livestock production capacity needed for export (like it currently does to the south) and there are modern abbatoirs dotting most cities in the north which are quite capable of processing meat or can be upgraded and expanded for the purpose. Private investors, such as the Nagari Group are already exploiting that sector in the north. Modern animal husbandry as you posited has been practiced in the north for over 30 years. The pastoralism that you attribute to the entire region is simply a cultural practice of the Fulani tribe in the region, just like the igbo man believes in migration for prosperity, and not the sole method of animal husbandry.





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prophetone:

1. First of all, I just noticed this is a competition between north and south which i think is childish and not my intention. What i was discussing is more of self-sustenance in the event of dismemberment as opposed to one-upmanship. Nobody said both regions cannot be mutually prosperous nations and our division will simply be the manifestation of the desires of the people.

2. That been said, the north has the sheer livestock production capacity need for export (like it currently does to the south) and there are modern abbatoirs dotting most cities in the north which are quite capable of processing meat or can be upgraded and expanded for the purpose. Private investors, such as the Nagari Group are already exploiting that sector in the north. Modern animal husbandry as you posited has been practiced in the north for over 30 years. The pastoralism that you attribute to the entire region is simply a cultural practice of the Fulani tribe in the region, just like the igbo man believes in migration for prosperity, and not the sole method of animal husbandry.





Visit for more info.
http://nagarigroup.org/abattoir.html#

Ok, so they process meat but do not export it. That's my point. Tnx.

ZnO:

Ok, so they process meat but do not export it. That's my point. Tnx.

Well that's because there's a huge local market here in Nigeria, the point is they have the capacity to export meat. If the country is disintegrated and the north still exports to the south in the same quantity, that will count as export abi?