babyosisi: Well it's a surprise the Alaafin and ooni never eliminate themselves
Now that the Alaafin has acquired a Dracula wife,I hope the ooni can match that tactics grin

MrT2011:


Is she not telling the truth about yoloba god

MsNas: Well, I'm from Oyo State, though from Ibadan (Omo Ibadan and always proud of it ). The Alaafin of Oyo actually does well in promoting the Yoruba culture a lot. Makes me proud of my Yoruba heritage. Kudos to Oba Lamidi Adeyemi. I've not seen Oba Sijuade out these days that much, wonder why...
The Alaafin sure knows how to enjoy life sha

But BTW... why is that Olori (King's Wife) as white as that? I'm not bashing her but with the stereotype associated with Yorubas (which is stupid IMO), I cannot for the life of me fathom why some women whiten their skin. She might be naturally light-skinned sha.

T3Amo:

You were born in 1964, so that would make you 50 years old. How can a 50 year old granma behave like this? Are you not ashamed? This is not normal maybe you should get checked for bi polar disorder or mental illness.
Even kids 1/4 your age do not act like this. You need to grow the fk up. The saying is true: a fool at 40 (in your case 50) is a fool forever. Your life must really suck to be such a bitter, miserable old hag every damn day at your age. Is this what you taught your kids? What a disgrace you are. Smdh so pathetic.

tit: the brazilians will be like:
you sold us into slavery and pocketed the money,
what do you want with us again?

tonytony208:

now your case is getting worse by the minute. Before long, you will run madt on the street. Your lisp has gotten so bad you have lost control over yourself. The lisping defect has migrated frm your uncontrollable lips to your typing fingers. Things have overshoot physiological threshold to the extent you cant type a statement without showing the whole world that you are a lisper. The bad news is tactile reflex may accentuate lisping signal to your brain with the the ultimate effect of ur madtness.

remsonik:
I am from ogbomoso and I spend the first 20 years of my life in oyo. I attended FGGC oyo. The likes of joju adeyemi,sherifat mariam and some more I couldn't remember are Feggo girls

kayjasper:

Ahhh...Feggo Owinni Hills. I also schooled there too. Thanks to the likes of Mrs Okoroafor, Late Mrs R.O Dawodu, Mrs Okebukola, Mrs Adekale et al.
That's was a pleasant place to be.

Aunty Joju and co are all married and doing okay. We were still small when they left the palace. God bless you ma.

honifome: IKU BABA YEYE(one who orders death sentence)
ALASE EKEJI ORISA(second in command to gods)
OBA TI N FOBA JE(the king that crown kings)
OBA TI N GBA IDOBALE OBA(the king that accepts kings salute).....this is just an extract from alaafin of oyo eulogies.
At the peak of oyo empire,yoruba glory was at its acme,oyo dominates political leadership of the entire yoruba kingdoms,our unity was like collection of brooms tied together to do the sweeping,the empire created strong defence tactics against the neigbouring enemies and were forced to pay tributes at oyo will in those days.Alaafin of oyo confirmed the appointments of prominent obas such as alake of egbaland,osile oke ona,olowu of owu,onisabe of sabe,alaketu of ketu,owa obokun of ijesha land etc before their independence conquests.Alaafin approved the establishment of other thrones such as awujale of ijebuland,soun of ogbomoso,olubadan of ibadan,timi of ede etc.
Oyo dynasty designed prominent military rulers for yoruba such as bashorun and aare ona kakanfo.Alaafin has the final say on disputes between obas and other yoruba kingdoms.oyo conquest expanded yoruba land greatly at the peak of the empire.ile ife was recognise as cradle and sacred place for yoruba.Hence it's duty of oyo to protect ife from attack and no oba was recognized by alaafin but the chief priest called ooni.NOW DO YOU EXPECT ALAAFIN OF OYO TO ACCEPT SUPREMACY FROM OONI OF IFE?As far as I am concerned ALAAFIN IS AN INSTITUTION.Ooni is lucky that this generation is clearly different from the past otherwise alaafin would have dealt with him like kurumi of ijaye who attempted to undermine alaafin atiba succession decision. we were the builder of the empire and we buldozed it due to some so called liberation moves by our forefathers at the expense of our unity.we are now bearing the brunts of the fallen empire which was the second largest in africa after egyptian empire.We could have been a nation of our own at present had some mistakes been avoided because we are the most populous homogenous black race in the world and we have the human and material resources.It' a pity that our present traditional rulers have not learned from the mistakes of our ancestors.YORUBA RONU!

iwonbaoko:
1.Factually.
I do not agree that Alaafin approved establishment of Awujale of "Ijebuland" . In reality the word "land" is not Yoruba and there is no such thing as a "de facto" Ijebuland any more than there is a Yorubaland. Those eulogies are used for other Obas as well
2. Everything you say about the "authority" of the Alaafin stems from force or capacity for violence in a particular era. So to talk of superiority is like talking about superiority between Abacha and Babangida. Neither of them had any right to rule and there is no historical,canonical or spiritual basis for Oyo supremacy FOR ALL TIME. Empires come and empires go.Once the Romans ruled the world or most of it as did the British and now the Americans. In short the man with the biggest sword or gun in any era is king.
In all likelihood Ibadan which is a baby,historically speaking, was a bigger force at the time of colonization and was poised to be the dominat force in the area.

More important is the word "Yoruba". That word means a very different thing today from what it meant during the Oyo empire. The very fact that Oyo is considered "empire" tells the whole story. Ijebus,Egbas,Ekitis,Ondos etc were NOT Yoruba Yes they considered themselves Omo Odua and spoke mutually intelligible languages but then so did the biblical Israelites(in relation to Abraham) and many of their neighbours with whom they had endless wars. Often it is a mistake to assume that because peoples speak a language and have similar customs they are one. Much of Northern Nigeria today speaks Hausa and are Muslims but that is the purpose and intention of empire and colonization.

In my life I have encountered Ekiti and Ijebu people(now deceased) who would specifically refer to Ara Oke as (Yoruba) They would never refer to themselves as such nor even to their language. Nigeria and its prevailing context has created the need for a "Yoruba" nation and no doubt this has utility but the idea that we all share in the Yoruba glory of Oyo is funny. In fact at the very moment when Oyo were having problems in Ilorin other "Yoruba" nations saw that as an opportunity to attack Oyo.
To my mind The Oyo people are very distinct from the Ondo Ekiti and Ijebus. They were more of a colonizing force than a fraternal one.These peoples have other less illustrious origins/stories that have been airbrushed from the official story

Ekundayo7:
I have never understood why Yoruba who are in traditional position of power and supposed to uphold Ifa tradition will marry Muslim wives. Her "dracula" fang is from going on Haj and getting a gold covering put on her incisor. Anyone with the means to do so, women, do it to proclaim to all that they have made the pilgrimage to Mecca, perhaps to make themselves seem an even better catch to some Muslim suitor. If I had my way ALL OBA, ALL TITLED POSITIONS WOULD BE FILLED BY IFA TRADITIONALIST WHO TRULY FOLLOW THE WORD OF IFA. NOT CHRISTIANS, NOT MUSLIMS - IFA MEN THROUGH AND THROUGH. AND THAT GOES FOR THEIR WIVES TOO.

iwonbaoko:
1.Factually.
I do not agree that Alaafin approved establishment of Awujale of "Ijebuland" . In reality the word "land" is not Yoruba and there is no such thing as a "de facto" Ijebuland any more than there is a Yorubaland. Those eulogies are used for other Obas as well
2. Everything you say about the "authority" of the Alaafin stems from force or capacity for violence in a particular era. So to talk of superiority is like talking about superiority between Abacha and Babangida. Neither of them had any right to rule and there is no historical,canonical or spiritual basis for Oyo supremacy FOR ALL TIME. Empires come and empires go.Once the Romans ruled the world or most of it as did the British and now the Americans. In short the man with the biggest sword or gun in any era is king.
In all likelihood Ibadan which is a baby,historically speaking, was a bigger force at the time of colonization and was poised to be the dominat force in the area.

More important is the word "Yoruba". That word means a very different thing today from what it meant during the Oyo empire. The very fact that Oyo is considered "empire" tells the whole story. Ijebus,Egbas,Ekitis,Ondos etc were NOT Yoruba Yes they considered themselves Omo Odua and spoke mutually intelligible languages but then so did the biblical Israelites(in relation to Abraham) and many of their neighbours with whom they had endless wars. Often it is a mistake to assume that because peoples speak a language and have similar customs they are one. Much of Northern Nigeria today speaks Hausa and are Muslims but that is the purpose and intention of empire and colonization.

In my life I have encountered Ekiti and Ijebu people(now deceased) who would specifically refer to Ara Oke as (Yoruba) They would never refer to themselves as such nor even to their language. Nigeria and its prevailing context has created the need for a "Yoruba" nation and no doubt this has utility but the idea that we all share in the Yoruba glory of Oyo is funny. In fact at the very moment when Oyo were having problems in Ilorin other "Yoruba" nations saw that as an opportunity to attack Oyo.
To my mind The Oyo people are very distinct from the Ondo Ekiti and Ijebus. They were more of a colonizing force than a fraternal one.These peoples have other less illustrious origins/stories that have been airbrushed from the official story

MrT2011:


I am mad itself- and that madness We have inflicted on you.
We visited you last night- it was indeed pleasant to make love to you.

Those your useless Pastors will never save you
You are now ours and our toy will you remain through eternity.

iwonbaoko:
1.Factually.
I do not agree that Alaafin approved establishment of Awujale of "Ijebuland" . In reality the word "land" is not Yoruba and there is no such thing as a "de facto" Ijebuland any more than there is a Yorubaland. Those eulogies are used for other Obas as well
2. Everything you say about the "authority" of the Alaafin stems from force or capacity for violence in a particular era. So to talk of superiority is like talking about superiority between Abacha and Babangida. Neither of them had any right to rule and there is no historical,canonical or spiritual basis for Oyo supremacy FOR ALL TIME. Empires come and empires go.Once the Romans ruled the world or most of it as did the British and now the Americans. In short the man with the biggest sword or gun in any era is king.
In all likelihood Ibadan which is a baby,historically speaking, was a bigger force at the time of colonization and was poised to be the dominat force in the area.

More important is the word "Yoruba". That word means a very different thing today from what it meant during the Oyo empire. The very fact that Oyo is considered "empire" tells the whole story. Ijebus,Egbas,Ekitis,Ondos etc were NOT Yoruba Yes they considered themselves Omo Odua and spoke mutually intelligible languages but then so did the biblical Israelites(in relation to Abraham) and many of their neighbours with whom they had endless wars. Often it is a mistake to assume that because peoples speak a language and have similar customs they are one. Much of Northern Nigeria today speaks Hausa and are Muslims but that is the purpose and intention of empire and colonization.

In my life I have encountered Ekiti and Ijebu people(now deceased) who would specifically refer to Ara Oke as (Yoruba) They would never refer to themselves as such nor even to their language. Nigeria and its prevailing context has created the need for a "Yoruba" nation and no doubt this has utility but the idea that we all share in the Yoruba glory of Oyo is funny. In fact at the very moment when Oyo were having problems in Ilorin other "Yoruba" nations saw that as an opportunity to attack Oyo.
To my mind The Oyo people are very distinct from the Ondo Ekiti and Ijebus. They were more of a colonizing force than a fraternal one.These peoples have other less illustrious origins/stories that have been airbrushed from the official story

tonytony208:

i guess the evil those almanjiris inflicted on ur mother when they rraped her to give birth to u had put u in perpetual bandage. A bondage you can never be free from till u rot in hell with your master. For your information, you are in your bondage alone. Some of us are not in your world. You can't even come close, you and ur master would have been roasted alive by now. My prayer for you: may your lisp and your bondage remain forever and on you alone.

tonytony208:

i guess the evil those almanjiris inflicted on ur mother when they rraped her to give birth to u had put u in perpetual bandage. A bondage you can never be free from till u rot in hell with your master. For your information, you are in your bondage alone. Some of us are not in your world. You can't even come close, you and ur master would have been roasted alive by now. My prayer for you: may your lisp and your bondage remain forever and on you alone.

honifome: IKU BABA YEYE(one who orders death sentence)
ALASE EKEJI ORISA(second in command to gods)
OBA TI N FOBA JE(the king that crown kings)
OBA TI N GBA IDOBALE OBA(the king that accepts kings salute).....this is just an extract from alaafin of oyo eulogies.
At the peak of oyo empire,yoruba glory was at its acme,oyo dominates political leadership of the entire yoruba kingdoms,our unity was like collection of brooms tied together to do the sweeping,the empire created strong defence tactics against the neigbouring enemies and were forced to pay tributes at oyo will in those days.Alaafin of oyo confirmed the appointments of prominent obas such as alake of egbaland,osile oke ona,olowu of owu,onisabe of sabe,alaketu of ketu,owa obokun of ijesha land etc before their independence conquests.Alaafin approved the establishment of other thrones such as awujale of ijebuland,soun of ogbomoso,olubadan of ibadan,timi of ede etc.
Oyo dynasty designed prominent military rulers for yoruba such as bashorun and aare ona kakanfo.Alaafin has the final say on disputes between obas and other yoruba kingdoms.oyo conquest expanded yoruba land greatly at the peak of the empire.ile ife was recognise as cradle and sacred place for yoruba.Hence it's duty of oyo to protect ife from attack and no oba was recognized by alaafin but the chief priest called ooni.NOW DO YOU EXPECT ALAAFIN OF OYO TO ACCEPT SUPREMACY FROM OONI OF IFE?As far as I am concerned ALAAFIN IS AN INSTITUTION.Ooni is lucky that this generation is clearly different from the past otherwise alaafin would have dealt with him like kurumi of ijaye who attempted to undermine alaafin atiba succession decision. we were the builder of the empire and we buldozed it due to some so called liberation moves by our forefathers at the expense of our unity.we are now bearing the brunts of the fallen empire which was the second largest in africa after egyptian empire.We could have been a nation of our own at present had some mistakes been avoided because we are the most populous homogenous black race in the world and we have the human and material resources.It' a pity that our present traditional rulers have not learned from the mistakes of our ancestors.YORUBA RONU!

7lives:

You have said everything that needed to be said, that Ooni and the people that coronate him are the ones that had made a mockery of Ooni's position in Yoruba land.
IFA did not picked Sijuade, he was imposed on the people of Ife and this is why this Ooni is lacking in the aura, power, charisma and sophistication needed to excel in that position.
The former Ooni Adesoji Aderemi is a man that commands the respect of all and sundry, ekun oko oke, ta lo fe gbe ina wo oju ekun. He recognized and understand his role as the high priest of Yoruba land unlike this current one who is a pretender in that exalted position, creating fracas here and there, dragging meaningless issues with his superiors and even subordinates.
Ooni should just thank his star for modernisation, Alafin may not even need approval from Oyomesi before replacing him. Who is Ooni?, an ordinary Abore, a shrine keeper, I beg make we hear word jare Iku ki i se egbe orun.

macof:

I admit Oba Sijiwade has been disappointing and it's very possible he isn't the one Ifa picked.
Unlike his predecessor, Oba Aderemi who was man well fitting of the Ooni title

However Ooni is not "ordinary" Alaafin cannot do anything to the Ooni

I don't know why you all looking at the man and not the actual Title, even at looking at the men without the crowns, Sijuwade is no mate of Adeyemi

Whatever the case both Oba Okunade Sijuwade and Oba Lamidi Adeyemi have disappointed

Imagine an Alaafin, descendant of Oranmiyan parading himself as a Muslim.
Disgusting

macof:

The Ooni had been superior even before 1300AD that Oranmiyan established the Alaafin dynasty

I don't why you people have lost ur senses like this.

Where did Alaafin get his crown? From Ooni
Where does Alaafin trace his origins? From Ooni(or better Olofin, as it was then)

Why was Oranmiyan so determined to return to ife despite having Benin and Oyo?? Ife throne is superior