Yooguyz:

I don't have anything against witness, I have a problem with the hypocrisy of watchtower leaders as much as you have problem with pentecostal pastors.

its a lie! your aim is to persuade all christians to become like you, that is alienated from God and practice anything their mind tells them even if bible condemn it or not

and greatest weapon is to build on sentiments or add unverifiable lies and attach them to sentiments so as to please 'a party' only to turn around to build on other sentiments to attack even those 'party' whom you seem to once support

I open my threads out of pity for the average gullible witness, to expose some watchtower theology for what it truelly is.

You should be grateful to me for my eye-opening exposes.

even the apostles are prone to mistakes, but when you constitute yourself a tool 'to tactfully distort' and add your own insinuations to issues with jehovahs witnesses to gain popularity what is your own stand with the lord?

2 peter 3:

3 Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us,[a] the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.

14 .....Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.


so are you doing your best to live a good moral live? no is the answer, when christians criticize other christian it is acceptalble according in the bible which says 'that you should reprimand so as to be sound in faith' but in your own case you dont believe in God and bible,https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331

so what you are trying to do is just to make people 'be like you' that is stop believing in God!

ooseven:
The ideologies you should be against are those that breed violent, fraudulent and criminal people, not JW.

What makes you think that an organisation that still persists in predicting the end of the world despite past failures in order to garner more followers and increase donations is not fraudulent?

kokolet007:
A very interesting point u have bought up, plz kindly check john 5vs 43,john 17vs6.....jesus set the example we should all imitate,that's y he told his disciple he didn't come to do his will buh of his father and also check john 17vs 3 to see how important and jesus is.

Don't dodge my question right.

John 5:43 says "I am come in my Father's name.." I believe this is the part you need.

John 17:6 says "I have manifested thy name..." this is what you need too

John 17:3 says "And this is life eternal, that they may might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent" I don't know what you want from this verse.

1) How do all these answer my question?
2) I need the verse where the command appeared because if I want to deal with all these we will deviate from the topic.

This is my question again, why do your organization was called JEHOVAH witness and not JESUS witness since it's Jesus who gave the command?


So kindly provide the verse where Jesus gave the command of door-to-door evangelism.


Shalom!

Yooguyz:

Allow me to answer, I'll be back.


Am back.Jesus was crucified with two nails, one in each hand, not a single nail through the wrist. That separate nails were in each hand is made clear by the use of the word 'nails' not 'nail'. This suggests that Jesus had his arms separated on a cross, not together on a stake as represented in Watchtower publications.

Matthew 27:37 also supports the idea of a cross rather than a stake when it says;

"Above his head they had put the charge against him in writing: 'THIS IS JESUS, KING OF THE JEWS' ". How can something be put above his head, if his hands were nailed vertically as depicted by the watchtower.

"unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, I will certainly not believe".
John 20:25

Compare this two pix below, which one accurately fits into bible description?

yooguys, what is the essence of quoting bible verses when you dont even believe in those verses as you wrote below

;Re: Implication Of Tithing by Yooguyz(m): 10:47pm On Apr 11, 2013
good evening op,
i have never paid tithe in my life and i don't intend on paying tithe but let those who do keep doing it, *in my mind* #deluded bunch of tithe paying folks# I am a Caktholic christian but i dont believe in God, in fact religion is the opium of the masses.
YOU can ATTACK me cos am used to attacks infact i'll welcome one so far it's sincere #but if i troll you with multiple id's eh?#
funny thing about me i don't even believe in the bible am quoting it's for gullible people
you know yourself

https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331

now, one prophetUdeme has fallen to your gimic praising you for quoting bible verses that you said is for 'gullible' and you dont believe, what hypocryte you are

@Emusan, please help me ask kookolet07 to provide the scriptural basis of the 1919 doctrine that has it that Jesus chose the watchtower as the only true religion, since she doesn't respond to my posts any longer.


"In 1919 the cleansed slave class could look forward to ever-expanding activities." Watchtower 1993 May 1 p.16

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax p.18

"How long did this respite for the seed of God’s woman last? Revelation 12:6 says 1,260 days. Revelation 12:14 calls the period a time, times, and half a time; in other words, three and a half times. In fact, both expressions stand for three and a half years, extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class. ... After 1922 Satan spewed out a flood of persecution against the Witnesses." Revelation - It's Grand Climax pp.184-185

BERNIMOORE: its a lie! your aim is to persuade all Christians to become like you, that is alienated from God and practice anything their mind tells them even if bible condemn it or not

when Christians criticize other christian it is acceptable according in the bible which says 'that you should reprimand so as to be sound in faith' but in your own case you dont believe in God and bible,https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331

Sorry for jumping into your discussion but I'm not clear with the underlined statement in your post.

Was Pentecostal and others included in your ALL CHRISTIANS or only JW you're still referring to as ALL CHRISTIAN?

Doesn't JW are the only true Christian on earth?

ProphetUdeme: perfect perfect perfect.. U have been endowed with spiritual wisdom form God.. Continue with it and God bless u bro. No mind those deceivers

unfortunately yooguyz does NOT believe in those bible verses you are praising him for, sorry!https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331

Re: Implication Of Tithing by Yooguyz(m): 10:47pm On Apr 11, 2013
good evening op,
i have never paid tithe in my life and i don't intend on paying tithe but let those who do keep doing it, *in my mind* #deluded bunch of tithe paying folks# I am a Caktholic christian but i dont believe in God, in fact religion is the opium of the masses.
YOU can ATTACK me cos am used to attacks infact i'll welcome one so far it's sincere #but if i troll you with multiple id's eh?#
funny thing about me i don't even believe in the bible am quoting it's for gullible people
you know yourself

do you agree that bible is for the gullible? Mr

Emusan:

Sorry for jumping into your discussion but I'm not clear with the underlined statement in your post.

Was Pentecostal and others included in your ALL CHRISTIANS or only JW you're still referring to as ALL CHRISTIAN?

Doesn't JW are the only true Christian on earth?

i am not aware maybe JW are the only true Christian on earth, but anybody who believe in the holy scripture and have faith in God through christ jesus is a christian in my own personal defination, i am not a jehovahs witness, ok?

and since yooguys does not believe in the bible as he confessed in this link https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331, is he a christian to you and in a position to critisize those trying their best?

Emusan

i want to believe that you

1, believe in God

2, believe the holy/sacred scriptures

i can see that you are joining issues with someone who does not have the same belief in Gods word! but disrespect to GODS word,, he loathe the scripture and funny enough he is trying to use you as a tool to further his interest, a small boy of 25 for that mather! are you part of the gullible he insinuate to those who believe in GOD AND BIBLE?

Emusan:

Don't dodge my question right.

John 5:43 says "I am come in my Father's name.." I believe this is the part you need.

John 17:6 says "I have manifested thy name..." this is what you need too

John 17:3 says "And this is life eternal, that they may might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent" I don't know what you want from this verse.

1) How do all these answer my question?
2) I need the verse where the command appeared because if I want to deal with all these we will deviate from the topic.

This is my question again, why do your organization was called JEHOVAH witness and not JESUS witness since it's Jesus who gave the command?


So kindly provide the verse where Jesus gave the command of door-to-door evangelism.


Shalom!

she will not answer you!!! She is busy reading one black book like that titled "reasoning from the scriptures" she will either copy vebatim from there and post here or consult few of their members that are more ground in the so called organisation. I stopped listening to them the day I found out one of their founders is an illuminati member. They dont make use of their thinking faculty rather prefer to copy exactly what their western counterpart print and send for them globally. I pay deaf ear to any man-made doctrine QED!

kokolet007:
Wow! U are such a eye opener! A son of a priest turn to atheist! =))º°˚˚˚°ºнaĦaнaº°˚˚˚°º‎​=)) I quess he's the black sh**p of his mass
May jehovah redeem ur soul!

Go through the thread in the link Bernimore provided, it was intended to be a sarcastic reply to some one in that thread, don't misinterpret it.

Re: Implication Of Tithing by Yooguyz(m): 10:47pm On Apr 11, 2013
good evening op,
i have never paid tithe in my life and i don't intend on paying tithe but let those who do keep doing it, *in my mind* #deluded bunch of tithe paying folks# I am a Caktholic christian but i dont believe in God, in fact religion is the opium of the masses.
YOU can ATTACK me cos am used to attacks infact i'll welcome one so far it's sincere #but if i troll you with multiple id's eh?#
funny thing about me i don't even believe in the bible am quoting it's for gullible people
you know yourself
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I impore you not to take Bernimore's post seriously cos the moniker is notorious for trolling.

BERNIMOORE: i am not aware maybe JW are the only true Christian on earth, but anybody who believe in the holy scripture and have faith in God through christ jesus is a christian in my own personal defination, i am not a jehovahs witness, ok?

and since yooguys does not believe in the bible as he confessed in this link https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331, is he a christian to you and in a position to critisize those trying their best?

nigga stop denying ur god damn man-made religion, from the content of ur comment u're one of them maybe she invited u to come and assist her same way some of those naive members of urs do go and come back wid crammed version of answers when asked a question on visit. No witness can decieve me I know them in and out they're not better than an average christian. The same bible y'all read says God sees the heart (1 Samuel 16:7) so stick to ur man-made doctrine and stop being a nuissance to others, preach to urself first.

ProphetUdeme: u dont believe in hell. u believe in hell.

U see how confusing this can be that even u rich4god u dont agree with the JW sect, they bash u for worshipping a statue while u in turn bash them for not believing in hell fire nor the trinity... Lol how satan can really wreck the body of Christ. ₹wondering₹

What are you insinuating... You didnt see where olu said am gathering fire... as if he is the one checkmating those gathering the fire...

BERNIMOORE:

yooguys, what is the essence of quoting bible verses when you dont even believe in those verses as you wrote belowhttp://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331

now, one prophetUdeme has fallen to your gimic praising you for quoting bible verses that you said is for 'gullible' and you dont believe, what hypocryte you are

Stop attacking his personal view... Allow him to make his argument as he wishes...

Rich4god: Stop attacking his personal view... Allow him to make his argument as he wishes...

Please take note! Bernimore's quote is not my personal view. I have clarified myself in this thread, which I believe you might have seen.

https://www.nairaland.com/1877865/yooguyz-athiest

irishCream: nigga stop denying ur god damn man-made religion, from the content of ur comment u're one of them maybe she invited u to come and assist her same way some of those naive members of urs do go and come back wid crammed version of answers when asked a question on visit. No witness can decieve me I know them in and out they're not better than an average christian. The same bible y'all read says God sees the heart (1 Samuel 16:7) so stick to ur man-made doctrine and stop being a nuissance to others, preach to urself first.

Thank you irishcream, you are a good woman.

irishCream: nigga stop denying ur god damn man-made religion, from the content of ur comment u're one of them maybe she invited u to come and assist her same way some of those naive members of urs do go and come back wid crammed version of answers when asked a question on visit. No witness can decieve me I know them in and out they're not better than an average christian. The same bible y'all read says God sees the heart (1 Samuel 16:7) so stick to ur man-made doctrine and stop being a nuissance to others, preach to urself first.

you are very wrong,ok

you insinuate from my comment just for the first time that i am one of the jehovahs witnesses when i am not! maybe to score cheap fabricated points, and i wasnt the right person, anyway you have right your opinion though, so far it is based on sentiments and not 'a statement of fact' or strong proof i dont have problem with you! generally, i am making a case for all christians who believe in the bible, but can you kindly expanciate on what you mean by man-made doctrine and do you believe in God and the sacred scripture? pls be honest

Yooguyz:

Please take note! Bernimore's quote is not my personal view. I have clarified myself in this thread, which I believe you might have seen.

https://www.nairaland.com/1877865/yooguyz-athiest

AFTERTHOUGHT! when do you clarify yourself?is it the same today that you were faced with your own undeniable statement of fact! this is huge joke! after 16 good months you just remember to create a so called disclaimer in desperation! and presenting it as if you had earlier disclaimed the thread!

here is a counter-disclaimer https://www.nairaland.com/1877993/yooguyz-confirm-atheist-status-n#25851097

nl members should be aware pls

irishCream: she will not answer you!!! She is busy reading one black book like that titled "reasoning from the scriptures" she will either copy vebatim from there and post here or consult few of their members that are more ground in the so called organisation. I stopped listening to them the day I found out one of their founders is an illuminati member. They dont make use of their thinking faculty rather prefer to copy exactly what their western counterpart print and send for them globally. I pay deaf ear to any man-made doctrine QED!

Damm I count this as an insult.......If u can say this to a multitude that they don't use thinking faculty I doubt wot ur mama taught u! I know peep like u buh it seems u have gone too far to prove ur point, u dnt have to lie of illuminati or any cult and definitely U are an apostate and we have been well grounded on apostate so ur excuses are lame!

BERNIMOORE: i am not aware maybe JW are the only true Christian on earth, but anybody who believe in the holy scripture and have faith in God through christ jesus is a christian in my own personal defination, i am not a jehovahs witness, ok?

and since yooguys does not believe in the bible as he confessed in this link https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331, is he a christian to you and in a position to critisize those trying their best?

But you always support JW here, why?

About @Yooguys I don't have problem with him whether he criticizes Christian faith or not (if at all is an Atheist) since he won't be the first or the last BUT my main concern is people like JW who claim to be followers of Christ but always twist scriptures.

Anyway I thought you're a JW before.

Yooguyz: @Emusan, please help me ask kookolet07 to provide the scriptural basis of the 1919 doctrine that has it that Jesus chose the watchtower as the only true religion, since she doesn't respond to my posts any longer.


"In 1919 the cleansed slave class could look forward to ever-expanding activities." Watchtower 1993 May 1 p.16

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax p.18

"How long did this respite for the seed of God’s woman last? Revelation 12:6 says 1,260 days. Revelation 12:14 calls the period a time, times, and half a time; in other words, three and a half times. In fact, both expressions stand for three and a half years, extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class. ... After 1922 Satan spewed out a flood of persecution against the Witnesses." Revelation - It's Grand Climax pp.184-185

I choose not to answer u cos u are a confusionist and atheist.
U shouldn't b here cos u are not for God and if u actually wnt to repents go and meet ur priests am sure they are ready to embrace u!
About the 1919 issue u know it all so y ask,JW are not prophets so if our prediction look lame to u,don't worry ur head abt that it won't stop my salvation and also the truth is getting brighter by the way!
So I will beg u to focus more on God and I pray and hope he will make himself known to u

irishCream: she will not answer you!!! She is busy reading one black book like that titled "reasoning from the scriptures" she will either copy vebatim from there and post here or consult few of their members that are more ground in the so called organisation. I stopped listening to them the day I found out one of their founders is an illuminati member. They don't make use of their thinking faculty rather prefer to copy exactly what their western counterpart print and send for them globally. I pay deaf ear to any man-made doctrine QED!

Don't mind her!

[quote author=irishCream] nigga stop denying ur god damn man-made religion, from the content of ur comment u're one of them maybe she invited u to come and assist her same way some of those naive members of urs do go and come back wid crammed version of answers when asked a question on visit. No witness can decieve me I know them in and out they're not better than an average christian. The same bible y'all read says God sees the heart (1 Samuel 16:7) so stick to ur man-made doctrine and stop being a nuissance to others, preach to urself first.[/quote
Loll .........if u know us in and out as u claim and u decide not to make truth ur own then it makes it clear that u r done wiv learning the truth about God and u r too proud to accept even if u are convince! GNT pslm 37vs 11 said the meeks ones will enjoy prosperity and peace.

Yooguyz: @Emusan, please help me ask kookolet07 to provide the scriptural basis of the 1919 doctrine that has it that Jesus chose the watchtower as the only true religion, since she doesn't respond to my posts any longer.


"In 1919 the cleansed slave class could look forward to ever-expanding activities." Watchtower 1993 May 1 p.16

"Similarly, starting in 1919, Jehovah brought forth the seed of the woman as a spiritual nation." Revelation - It's Grand Climax p.18

"How long did this respite for the seed of God’s woman last? Revelation 12:6 says 1,260 days. Revelation 12:14 calls the period a time, times, and half a time; in other words, three and a half times. In fact, both expressions stand for three and a half years, extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class. ... After 1922 Satan spewed out a flood of persecution against the Witnesses." Revelation - It's Grand Climax pp.184-185

She won't because she has been programmed with it.

You can even see that in one of her reply when she said "the light is getting more brighter"

Emusan:

You can even see that in one of her reply when she said "the light is getting more brighter"

I wonder why she is claiming brighter light when the 1919 doctrine is stilling being held till this day.

Emusan:

But you always support JW here, why?

because most of their arguments are on point! many people likes them, ie @00seven, myself and others but dont neccesarily be their member and i dont see any reason apart from your own insinuation that makes them illegal!

About @Yooguys I don't have problem with him whether he criticizes Christian faith or not (if at all is an Atheist) since he won't be the first or the last

You are known for 'rephrasing or redefining statements' i am not saying that you should have problem with him at least you feel confortable with him as a trinitarian, but then you dont have a problem with when he said 'he does not even believe bible verses that you both share! its noteworthy, its your choice you ve got the right, but You DELIBERATELY play down what i put to you, by cynically changing what i mean, here is my statement which you replied again;

BERNIMOORE to Emusan: i can see that you are joining issues with someone who does not have the same belief in Gods word! but disrespect to GODS word,, he loathe the scripture and funny enough he is trying to use you as a tool to further his interest

someone who does not have the same belief in Gods word! but disrespect to GODS word and i provide a proof with links, https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331

of which he did not deny; now this is not about 'criticsm of christian faith' as you put it below

Emusan; About @Yooguys I don't have problem with him whether he criticizes Christian faith or not (if at all is an Atheist) since he won't be the first or the last

if you are not disappointed at an ordained priest like yooguyz, a catholic who 'in his own word said that he does not believe the bible verses that he is quoting, and that bible is meant for the gullible' then are you ARE A GULLIBLE? i dont expect you to answer directly, you can keep the answer

after all the jews and the pharisees chose the thief 'barbara' as their beloveth choice against 'jesus' so as to have jesus killed, its not new.

BUT my main concern is people like JW who claim to be followers of Christ but always twist scriptures.

Emusan(only), kindly open a thread and invite me there and post the link on this tread, pick a (1) topic and point out where they twist scripture, then one after another lets discuss 'do not copy several allegations and paste, one after another, we can see the truth

Yooguyz:

I wonder why she is claiming brighter light when the 1919 doctrine is stilling being held till this day.

in your own case you travel with missionaries of your fathers church to south africa 'at the church's expense, only to commit unnatural man to man abomination with assistant priest of the church, and since then 'inniquity was found in thee'

you started roaming religion section out of guilty concience like cain after he commited murder

i think you have offended God and grieved the holy spirit,

and your light? dim or bright?

this is where you have made a mistake since 2012 november, of which you beg jesoul(mod) to help you remove an afterthought! more and more evidences i have, lets start with this first, https://www.nairaland.com/639119/romance-section-complaints-suggestions-thread/103#13968089

BERNIMOORE:
because most of their arguments are on point! many people likes them, ie @00seven, myself and others but dont neccesarily be their member and i dont see any reason apart from your own insinuation that makes them illegal!

You call it ARGUMENT or the truth?
Again you said MOST!
So where do you belong to?

You are known for 'rephrasing or redefining statements' i am not saying that you should have problem with him at least you feel confortable with him as a trinitarian, but then you dont have a problem with when he said 'he does not even believe bible verses that you both share! its noteworthy, its your choice you ve got the right, but You DELIBERATELY play down what i put to you, by cynically changing what i mean, here is my statement which you replied again;

Show me the reason for the underline statement.

someone who does not have the same belief in Gods word! but disrespect to GODS word and i provide a proof with links, https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331
of which he did not deny; now this is not about 'criticsm of christian faith' as you put it below

I repeat I'm not concerned about Yooguyz but people like you.
Mind you Yooguyz is not the one who opened my eyes to JW deceit.

if you are not disappointed at an ordained priest like yooguyz, a catholic who 'in his own word said that he does not believe the bible verses that he is quoting, and that bible is meant for the gullible' then are you ARE A GULLIBLE? i dont expect you to answer directly, you can keep the answer

You've already identified yourself, I don't need to drag anything with you.

after all the jews and the pharisees chose the thief 'barbara' as their beloveth choice against 'jesus' so as to have jesus killed, its not new.

If yooguyz is an Atheist, will he be the first to point out his view about Christianity? absolutely NO! and someone like you can talk about Atheist but you don't want Atheist to talk about your faith...SMH

Emusan(only), kindly open a thread and invite me there and post the link on this tread, pick a (1) topic and point out where they twist scripture, then one after another lets discuss 'do not copy several allegations and paste, one after another, we can see the truth

I don't need to open a thread because I'm not a baby on NL so you can check my username and see some of my threads about their lies.
Anytime I feel like I will create a thread about them if you like comment or dodge your head.


Shalom!

Emusan:


I don't need to open a thread because I'm not a baby on NL so you can check my username and see some of my threads about their lies.
Anytime I feel like I will create a thread about them if you like comment or dodge your head.


Shalom!

You DIRTY lying hypocrite!

Who told you you dont have to open a thread to prove your points if they are the truth ?

Dont you know how to quote bible again ?

Is your lying tongue afraid to defend your points ?

There is no difference between you and that thing that you are supporting, you are both dirty and deceitful.

Go ahead and open the Dam thread and use the bible to prove the so call "lies" you talked about.

May that your "holy ghost" help you in your endeavour fellows.

Smh.

truthislight:

You DIRTY lying hypocrite!

Who told you you dont have to open a thread to prove your points if they are the truth ?

Dont you know how to quote bible again ?

Is your lying tongue afraid to defend your points ?

There is no difference between you and that thing that you are supporting, you are both dirty and deceitful.

Go ahead and open the Dam thread and use the bible to prove the so call "lies" you talked about.

May that your "holy ghost" help you in your endeavour fellows.

Smh.

This post smells suspicious. Hmmm....

truthislight:

You DIRTY lying hypocrite!

Who told you you dont have to open a thread to prove your points if they are the truth ?

Dont you know how to quote bible again ?

Is your lying tongue afraid to defend your points ?

There is no difference between you and that thing that you are supporting, you are both dirty and deceitful.

Go ahead and open the Dam thread and use the bible to prove the so call "lies" you talked about.

May that your "holy ghost" help you in your endeavour fellows.

Smh.

Can't stop laughing.....

What have you done with those ones I've opened before?

Like I said it's not you nor anyone will challenge me to open a thread, if you're not okay with that I'm sorry you will wait long. I will do it when I want to.

Emusan:


Can't stop laughing.....

What have you done with those ones I've opened before?

Like I said it's not you nor anyone will challenge me to open a thread, if you're not okay with that I'm sorry you will wait long. I will do it when I want to.

LOL..... You know, emotional outbursts can go a long way to expose a monikers multiple handles