Whats your answer? Has Yahweh failed in his promise??
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

I can see ur brain is weak!!!

maynation: I can see ur brain is weak!!!

bro, to prove the weakness of the OP's brain, you just have to give him the reasons to the question and not this post you've made!

Tolexander: bro, to prove the weakness of the OP's brain, you just have to give him the reasons to the question and not this post you've made!

dont Eva quote me again

Macof: Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than 30% of the land he promised?? Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

Pre second world war, Israel(nation) wasn't existing in that geographical location. It was occupied by Palestine though there was zionism until after the war when Israel was carved out in 1948. The arab nations revolted.

During the 6 days war of Arab-Israeli War in June 1967, Israel grab some land territories from the neighbouring arab countries, Golan Height from Syria, West Bank From Jordan and Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip from Egypt. Many of these seized territories have been returned base on the UN directives.

Base on the above, we can't 'really' say Yaweh failed in his promise!

maynation: dont Eva quote me again

what's gonna happen if i quote you?

Tolexander: what's gonna happen if i quote you?

I'll just ignore u ni

op his pls change d name to did yaweh fail in his promise? so d thread cn make fp.

macof: Yahweh has failed in his promise
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

Who says today's Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria are not descendants of Abraham just as Saudi Arabia is? Tell us whose descendants they are.

Tolexander:

Pre second world war, Israel(nation) wasn't existing in that geographical location. It was occupied by Palestine though there was zionism until after the war when Israel was carved out in 1948. The arab nations revolted.

During the 6 days war of Arab-Israeli War in June 1967, Israel grab some land territories from the neighbouring arab countries, Golan Height from Syria, West Bank From Jordan and Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip from Egypt. Many of these seized territories have been returned base on the UN directives.

Base on the above, we can't 'really' say Yaweh failed in his promise!

My good sir. let's examine this carefully

I assume you know middle eastern geography well

The river of Euphrates isn't jst Golan Height and the West bank. It flows directly into Syria and out.
which means the greater parts of Syria, from the West to the city of Halabiye is part of the promised land, the whole of Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan which is between the rivers of Egypt and Euphrates

See photo of the land that goes between these body of waters which Yahweh promised

truthman2012:

Who says today's Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria are not descendants of Abraham just as Saudi Arabia is? Tell us whose descendants they are.

Everyone says. The Jordanians, Lebanese and Palestinian for example are mostly of Amorite, Edomite, Philistine and Phoenician ancestry. If am nt mistaken The old Phoenicia is the same location as Lebanon

macof:

Everyone says. The Jordanians, Lebanese and Palestinian for example are mostly of Amorite, Edomite, Philistine and Phoenician ancestry. If am nt mistaken The old Phoenicia is the same location as Lebanon

Everyone is entiled to his/her opinion, but as long as they could not provide proof their opinions do not matter.

Abraham had many sons and the probability is very high that they spread to those places after the original owners had been overthrown.

truthman2012:

Everyone is entiled to his/her opinion, but as long as they could not provide proof their opinions do not matter.

Abraham had many sons and the probability is very high that they spread to those places after the original owners had been overthrown.

WTF is wrong with u dude??

You ask for proof that this people have always been in their land when in the same post you make an assumption without any Proof.

What child of Abraham ever ventured into Lebanon, or Syria?? Name one battle in the entire Bible that a child of Abraham overthrew this people..
"probability is very high" my foot. you know nothing about probability..if you don't know history and geography pls get lost, we not talking probability here

Go study your Bible and stop listening to pastors who want to keep deceiving you for tithes, seeds and offering

so the Arab lands the 'chosen people' stole is not enough and you want them to steal more.

tartar9: so the Arab lands the 'chosen people' stole is not enough and you want them to steal more.

Before nko..? You don't know that both yahweh and allah are real estate agents and land thieves...

Alleged devine creators in land grabbing business.... Smh

truthman2012:

Who says today's Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria are not descendants of Abraham just as Saudi Arabia is? Tell us whose descendants they are.

Then yahweh fuvk up gan..I mean it is expected of him. He is always making mistakes/grand plan... ...I guess it was his plan to have the descendants of Abraham worship a different god on his behalf so he can come back and kill them with famine, disease, wars and ultimately flood.....

Your god dey on medication ni?

its not my hands are too short to come to ur aid neither are my ears too heavy to hear, but ur sins have driven u away from me"...yahweh has never failed man, man has always failed him. even abraham himself failed God on several occassions. I am a living testimony that the Elohim keeps to his words

macof: Whats your answer? Has Yahweh failed in his promise??
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

macof:

My good sir. let's examine this carefully

I assume you know middle eastern geography well

The river of Euphrates isn't jst Golan Height and the West bank. It flows directly into Syria and out.
which means the greater parts of Syria, from the West to the city of Halabiye is part of the promised land, the whole of Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan which is between the rivers of Egypt and Euphrates

See photo of the land that goes between these body of waters which Yahweh promised

actually in the post, i said since they were able to seize some territories of the neighbouring arab nations, one can still say Yaweh hasn't totally failed.

Bro, left to me, i don't really believe the stuff that Israel is a chosen nation.

macof: Whats your answer? Has Yahweh failed in his promise??
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

@OP. Of course not. Knowledge of God or the Bible shows that God does His part and man has to do his too.God gave them all that since the days of Joshua. Same way today God has given us ALL things needed for life and godliness. Play your part, it is unto you according to your.

macof: Whats your answer? Has Yahweh failed in his promise??
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

Hast thou read the prophecies regarding to regathering of the lost tribes of Israel? That includes us negroes.

Those in Israel today are foreigners, converts. Edomites. The most high shall drive them out, as prophesied.

Shalom

Tolexander: actually in the post, i said since they were able to seize some territories of the neighbouring arab nations, one can still say Yaweh hasn't totally failed.

Bro, left to me, i don't really believe the stuff that Israel is a chosen nation.

Come on.

If am your father and I promise you a carton of goodies but only give you little pieces not enough to fill the wrapper would you say I succeeded, considering you have always thought I can afford 100 cartoons but actually can't afford one wrapper

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@OP. Of course not. Knowledge of God or the Bible shows that God does His part and man has to do his too.God gave them all that since the days of Joshua. Same way today God has given us ALL things needed for life and godliness. Play your part, it is unto you according to your.

Pls shows us where God gave them the land he promised??
Old testament reference pls? Or any other authorised source for Jewish history

macof: Whats your answer? Has Yahweh failed in his promise??
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria

Who are the Israelites today?

JesusisLord85:

Hast thou read the prophecies regarding to regathering of the lost tribes of Israel? That includes us negroes.

Those in Israel today are foreigners, converts. Edomites. The most high shall drive them out, as prophesied.

Shalom

wow! If am to believe you that means Yahweh is a disgrace to Godhood.

He promised tremendous land and I say only the small piece of modern Israel he gave them but here saying he gave them nothing.
Even Israel doesn't belong to the seeds of Abraham

macof:

wow! If am to believe you that means Yahweh is a disgrace to Godhood.

He promised tremendous land and I say only the small piece of modern Israel he gave them but here saying he gave them nothing.
Even Israel doesn't belong to the seeds of Abraham

Are you a reprobate.

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled"

He shall bring his people, the ones he scatted, back into the land and shall drive out the heathen that dwell there. And there, the Most High shall establish His Kingdom on earth.

Don't I remember you being a 'christian' once upon a time. Seems you jumped out of the pan and into the frier.
More hope for even shdemidemi and goshen than for you.

macof:

Pls shows us where God gave them the land he promised??
Old testament reference pls? Or any other authorised source for Jewish history

Joshua 1:3

macof:

Come on.

If am your father and I promise you a carton of goodies but only give you little pieces not enough to fill the wrapper would you say I succeeded, considering you have always thought I can afford 100 cartoons but actually can't afford one wrapper

bro! actually, world politics today isn't something one can absolutely explain using religious knowledge. If religious knowledge is applied, one won't have solid premise to stand on.

Biblicaly, the land was promised by God to be given to the Israelites i.e the descendant of Abraham. and they were given. The exodus of the Israelites started from Egypt, wandering through the present Sinai Peninsula. The then Israelites were dealing with God.

Suddenly, Israel as a nation vanished from the map and restored by the final action of the UN after the 2nd World War, 1948 precisely. Though before then, there had been Zionism i.e the nationalist idea of creating a jewish home that will liberate them from the antisemitic treatment, discrimination and persecution like it was in Germany.
The Jews were from different part of the world.

The today's Israel is a nation dealing with the UN not God as the then Israel. There are many differences

1 different origin and exodus: The then Israel had their origin from Egypt.
The present Israel had the Jews coming from different origins like Poland, US, Canada, Germany, UK and even South Africa. Definitely, there are different exoduses for them.



2 Different reasons for exodus: The then Israelites' reasons were to liberate them from Egyptian slavery, going to the promise land and finally to serve God.
The present Israelites' reasons were to have a home of their own where Jewish culture will be practised and liberate them from antisemitic treatment and persecution.



3 God gave the biblical Israelite the promise land while the UN interfered into the Jewish claim of palestine(seems to be part of the former ottoman empire then). Even if the Present Israel embarks on expansionism like it was in the 6 days war of June, 1967, The UN will still try to anchor them. Hence, the reason why they were told to release the areas of dispute claimed from the neighbouring arab nations.

[b]had you presented the map showing the territorial jurisdiction of the biblical Israelites and Israel didn't occupy the promised territory, we could then conclusively say YAWEH has failed in his promise.

Tolexander: bro! actually, world politics today isn't something one can absolutely explain using religious knowledge. If religious knowledge is applied, one won't have solid premise to stand on.

Biblicaly, the land was promised by God to be given to the Israelites i.e the descendant of Abraham. and they were given. The exodus of the Israelites started from Egypt, wandering through the present Sinai Peninsula. The then Israelites were dealing with God.

Suddenly, Israel as a nation vanished from the map and restored by the final action of the UN after the 2nd World War, 1948 precisely. Though before then, there had been Zionism i.e the nationalist idea of creating a jewish home that will liberate them from the antisemitic treatment, discrimination and persecution like it was in Germany.
The Jews were from different part of the world.

The today's Israel is a nation dealing with the UN not God as the then Israel. There are many differences

1 different origin and exodus: The then Israel had their origin from Egypt.
The present Israel had the Jews coming from different origins like Poland, US, Canada, Germany, UK and even South Africa. Definitely, there are different exoduses for them.



2 Different reasons for exodus: The then Israelites' reasons were to liberate them from Egyptian slavery, going to the promise land and finally to serve God.
The present Israelites' reasons were to have a home of their own where Jewish culture will be practised and liberate them from antisemitic treatment and persecution.



3 God gave the biblical Israelite the promise land while the UN interfered into the Jewish claim of palestine(seems to be part of the former ottoman empire then). Even if the Present Israel embarks on expansionism like it was in the 6 days war of June, 1967, The UN will still try to anchor them. Hence, the reason why they were told to release the areas of dispute claimed from the neighbouring arab nations.

[b]had you presented the map showing the territorial jurisdiction of the biblical Israelites and Israel didn't occupy the promised territory, we could then conclusively say YAWEH has failed in his promise.

This still is no defence to why Yahweh forgot his promise to Abraham.

JesusisLord85:

Are you a reprobate.

Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled"

He shall bring his people, the ones he scatted, back into the land and shall drive out the heathen that dwell there. And there, the Most High shall establish His Kingdom on earth.

Don't I remember you being a 'christian' once upon a time. Seems you jumped out of the pan and into the frier.
More hope for even shdemidemi and goshen than for you.

freaking lunatic

If Jerusalem is now owned by non-Jews (gentiles) then Yahweh is even worse than I imagined

macof:

This still is no defence to why Yahweh forgot his promise to Abraham.

can you present the map of the geographical location occupied by the biblical israelites?

If you have it, present it and let us analyse if Yahweh failed in his promise or not. I'd given you the difference between the biblical Israelites and present one.

Tolexander: can you present the map of the geographical location occupied by the biblical israelites?

If you have it, present it and let us analyse if Yahweh failed in his promise or not. I'd given you the difference between the biblical Israelites and present one.

let me help the OP by sharing this This article is about an area of land in biblical times.
For the 20th century British protectorate, see
Emirate of Transjordan. For the district of
Transjordan during the Crusades. source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transjordan_(Bible)

Tolexander: can you present the map of the geographical location occupied by the biblical israelites?

If you have it, present it and let us analyse if Yahweh failed in his promise or not. I'd given you the difference between the biblical Israelites and present one.

Where you going with this?? are you saying old Israel is not of the geography of the Israel of today?
Where was Israel then?? In America?? Or deep in the Mesopotamian mountains??

Israel is Israel. No other Israel ever existed.
The most you can say is the "promised land" was part of Israel at a time, which you would need to prove