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Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 10:27am On Sep 09, 2014
Warning: No generic gods allowed.

According to Islam, if you believe Jesus ss the Son of God and not a prophet, you'll end up in hell. Christianity holds that Jesus is THE only way to heaven, and heaven can only be accessed by those who believe in him, not by good works or deeds.

Take into consideration that the average human will spend around 70 years on earth. Different factors(upbringing, environment, where you are born) influence whatever religious beliefs you are exposed to and hold on to during our sojourn on this earth. Most of these factors are beyond our control(you didn't get to pick your tribe/country/color). This length of time isn't so long when compared to eternity, infact it'd probably be less than a millisecond in eternity time. grin

If God was to toss a coin and ask you "heads or tails? If you are correct you go to heaven, but if you are wrong then you go to hell", then would you see this as a fair way of deciding who goes to heaven and hell? Of course you wouldn't but when you think about it, you have a much better chance this way since it is fifty-fifty. In real life it isn't fifty-fifty between Muslims and Christians, there are more religions too.

Do you consider God fair? As an aside, why should what I believe in matter to God more than how I treat my fellow humans?

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Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by experimentist: 10:30am On Sep 09, 2014
There's only one God..
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 10:32am On Sep 09, 2014
experimentist: There's only one God..
undecided

musKeeto: Warning: No generic gods allowed.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by loveroftruth: 10:37am On Sep 09, 2014
musKeeto: Warning: No generic gods allowed.

According to Islam, if you believe Jesus ss the Son of God and not a prophet, you'll end up in hell. Christianity holds that Jesus is THE only way to heaven, and heaven can only be accessed by those who believe in him, not by good works or deeds.

Take into consideration that the average human will spend around 70 years on earth. Different factors(upbringing, environment, where you are born) influence whatever religious beliefs you are exposed to and hold on to during our sojourn on this earth. Most of these factors are beyond our control(you didn't get to pick your tribe/country/color). This length of time isn't so long when compared to eternity, infact it'd probably be less than a millisecond in eternity time. grin

If God was to toss a coin and ask you "heads or tails? If you are correct you go to heaven, but if you are wrong then you go to hell", then would you see this as a fair way of deciding who goes to heaven and hell? Of course you wouldn't but when you think about it, you have a much better chance this way since it is fifty-fifty. In real life it isn't fifty-fifty between Muslims and Christians, there are more religions too.

Do you consider God fair? As an aside, why should what I believe in matter to God more than how I treat my fellow humans?

Math 24:14:

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a 'witness' to all nations, and then the end will come.

From the above, your concern has been addressed already, if you are sincere that is.

All those alive will be given equal opportunity.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by rinrin23(f): 10:38am On Sep 09, 2014
experimentist: There's only one God..

Whats his/its name and who created him/it?

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Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by experimentist: 10:41am On Sep 09, 2014
musKeeto:
undecided

none like genetic gods... Only one GOD!
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by experimentist: 10:45am On Sep 09, 2014
rinrin23:

Whats his/its name and who created him/it?
his not created, nor was he born or given birth to anything or any one.. He's just one..
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 10:45am On Sep 09, 2014
loveroftruth:

Math 24:14:

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a 'witness' to all nations, and then the end will come.

From the above, your concern has been addressed already, if you are sincere that is.

All those alive will be given equal opportunity.
I've met people who have never heard about Jesus or the Cross. And they died not knowing human, never having that opportunity to have someone share the Gospel with them. Would they spend eternity in hell?


Also do you think rejection of a story for which there's no evidence should lead to eternal damnation? Do you consider that fair?
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 10:50am On Sep 09, 2014
I prefer Greek and roman myths.
They r fun to read and fantastic.

Zeus/Jupiter nah badt guy

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Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by plaetton: 12:15pm On Sep 09, 2014
experimentist: none like genetic gods... Only one GOD!

And that god is Zeus, right?

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Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by plaetton: 12:16pm On Sep 09, 2014
experimentist: his not created, nor was he born or given birth to anything or any one.. He's just one..

That sounds like a fairy tale.

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Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by debosky(m): 12:43pm On Sep 09, 2014
musKeeto:
I've met people who have never heard about Jesus or the Cross. And they died not knowing human, never having that opportunity to have someone share the Gospel with them. Would they spend eternity in hell?

For the sake of argument, why does that matter to you? It's not as if you believe in heaven or hell. Why so concerned about the perceived fairness or otherwise of something you don't believe in?


Also do you think rejection of a story for which there's no evidence should lead to eternal damnation? Do you consider that fair?

Too many suppositions - what you regard as a story, what you consider there's no evidence for, and your definition of fair. Not so?
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 12:44pm On Sep 09, 2014
I have often wondered why what one believes in should worry the creator.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by experimentist: 12:50pm On Sep 09, 2014
plaetton:

And that god is Zeus, right?
no na thor
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by BodyKiss(m): 1:28pm On Sep 09, 2014
experimentist: his not created, nor was he born or given birth to anything or any one.. He's just one..

Please how did you get to know is? I'm willing to know.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by experimentist: 1:35pm On Sep 09, 2014
BodyKiss:

Please how did you get to know is? I'm willing to know.
seek knowledge bro...
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by BodyKiss(m): 1:59pm On Sep 09, 2014
experimentist: seek knowledge bro...

I'm not the type that lives in denial. You need the knowledge more than I do.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 7:19pm On Sep 09, 2014
plaetton:

And that god is Zeus, right?
Zeus's presence has been immortalized in the modern age.
In various science teachings.

In astronomy all constellations are drafted from one story or another in Greek and roman myth.

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Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 7:33pm On Sep 09, 2014
Modern days of the week.
Sunday - solar

Monday - lunar

Tuesday(Mardi) - mars/Aries - the god of war

Wednesday(mercredi) - mercury/hermes - messenger of the gods.

Thursday(vendredi) - Venus/aphrodites - Aries's slút formerly married to ugly Hephaestus.

Jeudi(Friday) - Zeus/Jupiter - god of the heavens

Saturday - Saturn/Cronus - the youngest titan and murderer of Uranus(his father). Cronus also suffered the same fate as his father-- by his youngest son Zeus.

The greeks and romans honoured these gods/planets on these days.
Which we have inherited.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 7:38pm On Sep 09, 2014
Roman god names/ Greek equivalent

Mercury/ Hermes

Venus/ aphrodites

Earth/ Gaia(daughter of chaos, mother of all titans by her son uranus, cyclops and the hundred hands.) The myth supports the theory of evolving from nonliving matter chaos).

Mars/ Aries
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 7:43pm On Sep 09, 2014
Jupiter / Zeus

Saturn/ Cronus

Neptune/ Poseidon

Uranus/ father of the titans

Pluto/ Hades god of the underworld
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 7:49pm On Sep 09, 2014
Eros/ cupid (the roman god of love!!!)
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by loveroftruth: 11:17pm On Sep 09, 2014
musKeeto:
I've met people who have never heard about Jesus or the Cross. And they died not knowing human, never having that opportunity to have someone share the Gospel with them. Would they spend eternity in hell?


Also do you think rejection of a story for which there's no evidence should lead to eternal damnation? Do you consider that fair?


Find out why the resurrection is for the righteous and the unrighteous.

John 5:28,29.

"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice
29 and come out —those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be judged".

And again, the bible says the judgement is a 1000yrs judgement.

Am assuming you should have known all this, if you dont and will not "ask" or research it, well.
Thats unfortunate.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by loveroftruth: 11:27pm On Sep 09, 2014
Anybody that have not heard, justice has not been served.

He falls among the people that will come up though "wicked".

Then, withing 1000yrs, justice will be served.

Thanks.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 7:27am On Sep 10, 2014
Debosky, long time.. una don tiff our welbeck grin

debosky:
For the sake of argument, why does that matter to you? It's not as if you believe in heaven or hell. Why so concerned about the perceived fairness or otherwise of something you don't believe in?
It's the same reason people are concerned about a bunch of people blowing up places so they can make heaven and be rewarded with virgins. If these religions weren't focused so much on proselytizing and winning more souls to their fold(which they do mostly through the fear of hell and armageddon), I wouldn't be so much concerned.

A lot of believers embark on soul winning with really honest motives. Being honest about a cause doesn't make the cause true or real. These soulwinners believe they're doing 'sinners' a favor by saving them from eternal damnation. There are also a few Christians on this board who have voiced their non-belief in hell.



debosky:
Too many suppositions - what you regard as a story, what you consider there's no evidence for, and your definition of fair. Not so?
So my opinions do not count in the grand scheme of things? angry
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by wiegraf: 6:07pm On Sep 10, 2014
Silkmoth33: I prefer Greek and roman myths.
They r fun to read and fantastic.

Zeus/Jupiter nah badt guy

they also a hell of a lot more sense than the likes of yahweh
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by debosky(m): 6:37pm On Sep 10, 2014
musKeeto: Debosky, long time.. una don tiff our welbeck grin

How we for do now? Who can rely on SirNoGoal for a whole season? cheesy


It's the same reason people are concerned about a bunch of people blowing up places so they can make heaven and be rewarded with virgins. If these religions weren't focused so much on proselytizing and winning more souls to their fold(which they do mostly through the fear of hell and armageddon), I wouldn't be so much concerned.

Fair enough - if you were discussing human actions then that's a different thing - last thing I checked God wasn't blowing up places it was people.


A lot of believers embark on soul winning with really honest motives. Being honest about a cause doesn't make the cause true or real. These soulwinners believe they're doing 'sinners' a favor by saving them from eternal damnation. There are also a few Christians on this board who have voiced their non-belief in hell.

I have no issues with this, but then again this isn't related to fairness or otherwise of the said God.


So my opinions do not count in the grand scheme of things? angry

Not really, except when they come to yourself. grin If you don't believe in a God, why care whether the God is fair or not? It's like me getting angry the tooth fairy will give someone $5 in America for a tooth but only 5 naira for me in Nigeria. Is that reasonable? grin
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by mazaje(m): 7:59pm On Sep 10, 2014
loveroftruth:


Find out why the resurrection is for the righteous and the unrighteous.

John 5:28,29.

"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice
29 and come out —those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be judged".

And again, the bible says the judgement is a 1000yrs judgement.

Am assuming you should have known all this, if you dont and will not "ask" or research it, well.
Thats unfortunate.

Are you a robot? What has a muslim done wrong for believing in islam. . .
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 9:11pm On Sep 10, 2014
wiegraf:

they also a hell of a lot more sense than the likes of yahweh
yeah!
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by mazaje(m): 8:49am On Sep 11, 2014
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by Nobody: 9:57am On Sep 17, 2014
musKeeto: Warning: No generic gods allowed.

According to Islam, if you believe Jesus ss the Son of God and not a prophet, you'll end up in hell. Christianity holds that Jesus is THE only way to heaven, and heaven can only be accessed by those who believe in him, not by good works or deeds.

Take into consideration that the average human will spend around 70 years on earth. Different factors(upbringing, environment, where you are born) influence whatever religious beliefs you are exposed to and hold on to during our sojourn on this earth. Most of these factors are beyond our control(you didn't get to pick your tribe/country/color). This length of time isn't so long when compared to eternity, infact it'd probably be less than a millisecond in eternity time. grin

If God was to toss a coin and ask you "heads or tails? If you are correct you go to heaven, but if you are wrong then you go to hell", then would you see this as a fair way of deciding who goes to heaven and hell? Of course you wouldn't but when you think about it, you have a much better chance this way since it is fifty-fifty. In real life it isn't fifty-fifty between Muslims and Christians, there are more religions too.

Do you consider God fair? As an aside, why should what I believe in matter to God more than how I treat my fellow humans?

ISLAM is the only way. Christians are only deceiving themselves, and they will all go to hell for worshiping a fictitious Jesus and God.
Re: Is Your God Unfair To Those Who Believe In Other Gods? by rinrin23(f): 12:41pm On Sep 17, 2014
kmcutez:

ISLAM is the only way. Christians are only deceiving themselves, and they will all go to hell for worshiping a fictitious Jesus and God.

And the Christians say the same about Islam and Allah. When are we all going to open our eyes and get past all of this religious bigotry.

There's no correct answer. There is no "only way". There is no "hell". Define fictitious and enlighten us on how Islam is not.

No one has the "truth", if anyone does it most certainly isnt any of the Abrahamic religions.

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