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| Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 11:24pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
On this thread is a conversation between a Sunday keeper and the Lord. It is a VERY powerful evangelistic tool for those Sunday keepers on the verge of making that final decision as to whether or not to keep the Seventh-day Sabbath as the Christian God has prophecied His children will do. I pray you are blessed by this wonderful compilation of Scriptures. I know I was the first time I read it. Q. Tell me, Lord, Do you have a special day of rest for Your followers? A."I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day." Rev. 1:10 Q. But which day is the Lord's Day? Which day are You Lord of? A."The Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day." Matt. 12:8 Q. There are seven days in the week. Which day is the Sabbath day? A."The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." (Fourth Commandment) Ex. 20:10 Q. Which day, according to our reckoning, is the seventh day, Saturday or Sunday? A."And when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene and Mary, the mother of James,...very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun...And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man...And he saith unto them, be not affrighted; Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified; he is risen." Mark 16:1-6.(Note: everybody knows that Sunday was the resurrection day. The Sabbath was past when it dawned. Thus it is evident that the Sabbath is Saturday, the day before Sunday.) Q. But, Lord, didn't you abolish the law which contains the Sabbath commandment? A."Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Matt. 5:17 Q. Well, at least, didn't you change one of the commandments so that today your followers may keep another day than the seventh day? A."For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matt. 5:18 Q. But, Lord, isn't Saturday a Jewish day? Isn't the seventh day the Sabbath of the Jews? A."The Sabbath was made for man." Mark 2:27 (The Sabbath was made and given to man 1500 years before the existence of a Jew. See Gen. 2:1-3) Q. Someone told me that after Your crucifixion, Lord, your followers no longer kept the seventh-day Sabbath according to the commandment. Is this true? A."And that day was the Preparation day and the Sabbath drew on. And the women also, which came with Him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the Sepulchre, and how His body was laid. And they returned and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment." Luke 23:54-56 Q. But didn't the apostle Paul always meet with the early Christians on Sunday in honor of the resurrection? What was his manner in regard to a day of worship? A."And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the Scriptures." Acts 17:2 Q. Did he meet with the Gentile converts on the Sabbath, too? Perhaps he met with the Jews on the Sabbath and the Greeks on Sunday. What about that? A."And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks."Acts 18:4 Q. What did Paul teach in regard to Sabbath keeping? A."There therefore remaineth a keeping of the Sabbath (margin) to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works as God did from His." Heb. 4:9,10 Q. But, which day did Paul mean when he spoke of resting as God did? A."For He spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, 'And God did rest the seventh day from all His works'" Heb. 4:4 Q. Is this, then, your instruction in regard to Sabbath keeping? A."For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God." Acts 20:27(In the New Testament there are no less than 59 references to the Sabbath. The book of Acts records 84 Sabbaths on which the Apostle Paul and his associates held religious services. Yet there is not one word in the entire Bible authorizing Sunday keeping.) Q. Then why is it so many people keep Sunday instead of Saturday? If the Bible teaches Sabbath keeping, how and by whom was Sunday keeping introduced into Christianity? A."And he (the 'little horn' power) shall speak great words against the Most High,...and think to change times and laws." Dan. 7:25 Q. The Roman Catholic Church is the little horn of Daniel 7; Do you mean that it should think to change the law of God? A."Ask now the priests concerning the law." Haggai 2:11 Q. Very well, I will ask Stephen Keenan, a Catholic Priest: Does your church think it has the power to change the law of God? A."Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her; she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day of the week, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority." Doctrinal Catechism, page 174 |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 11:27pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Q. When was this change made? A."We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church in the Council of Laodicea (364 A.D.) transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."The Converts' Catechism, Peter Geirmann, page 50.(This catechism received the pope's blessing on Jan. 25, 1910.) Q. Do you feel this is your MARK of authority? A."Of course the Catholic Church claims thatthe change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act... And the act is aMARKof her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons Q. Is this Romes way of counterfeiting your mark? Do you have a mark too? Ezekiel 20:12& 20,"Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them. And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God."(Note: the word sign is the same as the word mark. In fact you can use the words, sign, seal, mark, or stamp interchangeably in almost every instance. In fact, its confirmed in Romans 4:11 where it says,"...he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith"  Q. Do Protestant ministers agree with this? A.Congregationalist:"It is quite clear that however rigidly or devotedly we may spend Sunday, we are not keeping the Sabbath." Dr. R.W. Dale, The Ten Commandments, page 106. Methodist:"Sabbath in the Hebrew language signifies rest and is the seventh day of the week,...and it must be confessed that there is no law in the New Testament concerning the first day." Buck's Theological Dictionary. Baptist:"There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week...Where can the record of such a transfer be found? Not in the New Testament - absolutely not...Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did not come into use in early Christian history...But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the Papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism." - Dr. E.T Hiscox, author of the Baptist Manual. Click here for more comments of other denominations. (Will open in new window. It's a large page so give it time to load) Q. Since all the protestant religions agree the Sabbath was never changed, why do they do as Rome does? A."...all the world wondered after the beast. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Revelation 13:3,8 Q. What difference does it make which day I keep? A day is a day isn't it? A."Know ye not that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Romans 6:16 [/b]Q. Then what shall I do, obey the Sabbath of God's commandment or keep the Sunday of man? A."We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:29 Q. Well, Lord, what do You think of Sunday keeping? A."Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition...But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:6,9 [b]Q. But surely the millions of people who keep Sunday can't be wrong, can they? A."Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matt. 7:13,14(Only a few obeyed God in the days of Noah, in the days of Lot, in the days of Christ. The majority were lost.) Q. But Dr. So-and-so is a very wise man: Why doesn't he and all the great preachers keep the Sabbath? A."For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called; but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty." 1 Cor. 1:26,27.(Note: The great religious teachers in Christ's day rejected the truth also. His followers were of the common people.) Q. But I have accepted Jesus; I know He is my Saviour; I know He has accepted me and I have been keeping Sunday. Surely I would not be lost if I did not keep the Sabbath now, would I? A."A time of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent."Acts 17:30 Q. I know you, Lord. You wouldn't condemn me for breaking the Sabbath, would you? A."He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4 2 Likes |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 11:29pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Q. But isn't it sufficient that I love the Lord and live by the law of love? A."If ye love Me, keep My commandments." John 14:15 Q. Does that mean all ten of them? A."For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10 Q. Well, I think that if we try to follow Jesus, that is all that is necessary. Isn't that right, Jesus? A."He that saith he abideth in Him, ought himself also so to walk even as He walked." 1 John 2:6 Q. How did you walk, Lord, what was your custom? A."And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and, as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up for to read." Luke 4:16 Q. But, Lord, that was over 1900 years ago. Wouldn't you keep some other day than Saturday if you should come to earth today? A."I am the Lord, I change not." Mal. 3:6"Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and today, and for ever." Heb. 13:8 Q. Does my salvation depend upon my obedience to this Sabbath injunction? A."And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him." Heb. 5:9 Q. Do you think it would be absolutely necessary to keep the commandments to receive eternal life? A."If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matt. 19:17 Q. But I still can't see why You insist on the seventh day, Lord. Isn't Sunday as good as Saturday? A."God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it." Gen. 2:3"He hath blessed and I cannot reverse it." Num. 23:20."For Thou blessest, O Lord, and it shall be blessed for ever." 1 Chron. 17:27 Q. Well, it seems to me that if I keep one day in seven, regardless of which one, that ought to be good enough. A."There is a way that seemeth right unto a man; but the end thereof are the ways of death."Prov. 16:25"Spiritual things...are spiritually discerned." 1 Cor. 2:13,14 Q. But, Lord! Lord! Can't I do something else? Won't my profession get me to heaven? A."Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven." Matt. 7:21 Q. But I pray. A."He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination."Prov. 28:9 Q. But, Lord, look at the people who work miracles in Your name. Some heal the sick, others talk in tongues and do many wonderful things; yet they do not keep the Sabbath. What about them? A."Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? And in Thy name have cast out devils? And in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: Depart from Me." Matt. 7:22,23 Q. Yes, I know the Sabbath is right; but my business would suffer if I closed on Sabbath. I might lose my job. I wouldn't get ahead in the world! A."For what shall it profit a man if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"Mark 8:36 Q. Well, for myself I wouldn't care; but what about my family? Wouldn't it be better for me to work on the Sabbath than to let my family starve? A."Your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things; but seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Matt. 6:32,33. I have not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread." Ps. 37:25 Q. My friends will laugh at me and ridicule me. A."Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you,...and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely for My sake; rejoice, and be exceeding glad, for great is your reward in heaven." Matt. 5:11,12."If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you." John 15:18 Q. But suppose my own family does not agree with me. Should I go against their wishes, which would mean in some cases a division in the home? A."He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: And he that loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me: And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me is not worthy of Me." Matt. 10: 37,38."So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be My disciple." Luke 14:33 Q. I am afraid I won't be able to withstand all these trials. I am too weak. A."My grace is sufficient for thee: for My strength is made perfect in weakness....When I am weak, then am I strong." 2 Cor. 12:9,10."I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." Phil. 4:13 Q. Then, Lord, what is the reward for being faithful to You and the commandments? A."There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake, who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come, life everlasting." Luke 18: 29,30."Blessed are they that do His commandments that they may have a right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." Rev. 22:14 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 11:30pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Q. Lord, I'm looking forward to a home in the earth made new, will we keep the Sabbath there too? A."For as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make shall remain before Me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain; and it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another shall all flesh come to worship before Me, saith the Lord." Isa. 66: 22,23 Q. Then, Lord, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. With Your help, I will keep the Sabbath. A."Well done, good and faithful servant." Matthew 25:21 1 Like |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Truth24(m): 11:33pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Confused! |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 11:48pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Truth24: Confused!about what bro |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by makazona(m): 1:09am On Sep 14, 2014 |
finally,an award for the longest epistle on nailarand!!!!!!!!!! |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 8:44am On Sep 14, 2014 |
makazona: finally,an award for the longest epistle on nailarand!!!!!!!!!! |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by BossTtdiamonds(m): 10:02am On Sep 14, 2014 |
Olusanya333: about what broAbout everything... |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 10:53am On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:How come?? Its crystal and clear like TEKEL,TEKEL,MENE,UPHARSIN a hand wrote on the wall. So where do I start the explanation |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by JesusisLord85: 11:57am On Sep 14, 2014 |
Olusanya333: Q. But isn't it sufficient that I love the Lord and live by the law of love? Truth and light!! |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by BossTtdiamonds(m): 1:34pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Olusanya333: How come?? Its crystal and clear like TEKEL,TEKEL,MENE,UPHARSIN a hand wrote on the wall. So where do I start the explanation Oh! You seem to misunderstand my message.. Let me rephrase my statement "You are confused about everything"... Hope you understand much now. |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 1:49pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:Examine urself bro |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by BossTtdiamonds(m): 2:59pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
Olusanya333: Examine urself bro Read Romans 14:5-6, Colossians 2:16-17 The We'll see who needs to be examined |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 8:52pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:Bro God gives u free will. Heaven is not mean't for all but those who do the will of the Father. Read through it again. |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by JesusisLord85: 8:57pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: Romans 14 is talking about fasting. Colossians 2:16 is talking about animal sacrifices. Shalom |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 9:25pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
JesusisLord85:Glad u have d Spirit. |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by BossTtdiamonds(m): 10:22pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
JesusisLord85: I wonder if you have a bible at all? Did you read at all the verses I listed... Though I'd take it as generalization when you refer to Romans ch 14 as a whole... Romans 14:5-6 New International Version (NIV) 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. Colossians 2:16 KJV Let no man therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Now again I wonder if at all you read the bible before postin' or you just assumed.. Olusanya333: Glad u have d Spirit. Yeah! He has the spirit.. but which? The right Spirit? I bet you threw a party when he made his post... Last Bullet: You don't just assent to what someone says because it supports your claim, you investigate. 2 Likes |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 10:31pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:God gives u free will to obey or disobey. |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by JesusisLord85: 10:48pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: Haha, ok it seems you want a beat down with scripture: Let's go. Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days" So you read that and think you don't need to observe sabbath. Lol. Ok, let us look at drink. Many of you so-called Christians teach alcohol is forbidden. But the verse you use to justify your sunday 'rest' is that one could easily use via the same poor interpretation to justify drinking himself silly. You do not understand Colossians AT ALL. Let me give you the precept! Ezekiel 45:17 "And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the[b] sabbaths[/b], in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel." Paul was talking about sin and peace OFFERINGS. Christ was the lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world. Now they were being taught the Messiah is the passover lamb so they need not bring an animal to atone for their sins. This was not about which day you observe. Imagine. He even mentions "holy day". If it is hallowed, how then would god let you chose when to observe. Poor reasoning. It's not your fault though, I used to be in this confusion called 'the church'. With Romans. Skip back a few verses. Romans 14:1-3 1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Doubtful matters? Is the Lord's day a matter of debate? So one who is weak eats herbs, and the one who does not eat at all should not judge him that eats herbs. Not about the sabbath day my friend. If it were, that would make this guy a false teacher. Where did the Most High tell him of this change in the rules? Show me |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by BossTtdiamonds(m): 11:37pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
JesusisLord85:We do have different beliefs, I wont talk 'bout the alcohol part you mentioned so I won't deviate from the main perspective. Still on Colossians 2:16 Paul groups the weekly Sabbath with other things such as and eating and drinking restrictions of Judaism. Paul is talking about the weekly Sabbath and saying that its like the other rituals of Judaism and it is not a basis for judging. The Christians in Colossians should not let other people judge them by what they do on the Sabbath day, and in the same way, they should not judge other Christians by what they do on the Sabbath. In other words, they are not to say it is wrong for other Christians to be working on the Sabbath. Christians should not let anyone make them feel guilty for what they do on the Sabbath. Paul states the reason for this; Because Christ is the reality that these rituals symbolized. Since Christ has canceled our debts as in verse 14, we should therefore not let anyone criticize us for what we do on the Sabbath. Because of the cross, the regulations about the Sabbath are obsolete. Paul told the Galatians that the promises of salvation were given to Abraham in Galatians 3:16. Then a law was added 430 years later—meaning all the laws added through Moses as in verse 17. This law was temporary, in effect only until "the Seed" which is Jesus Christ had come as in verse 19. This law was put into effect until Jesus Christ, but now that he has come, we are not under the supervision of that law as in verse 24-25. The New Testament message is consistent: the old covenant, the law of Moses, is obsolete. If a command (such as the Sabbath) can be found only within the temporary law, then it is not likely to still be required. Now back to Romans 14, Paul writes that some Christians consider "one day more sacred than another," whereas other Christians consider "every day alike." In the Roman church, partly composed of Jews and partly composed of Gentiles, it is obvious what kind of days might be considered sacred. But Paul says, "Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind." In other words, he is saying that it is permissible for a Christian to think that every day is alike! He did not feel any need to explain that one day of the week should be considered different. He was quite content for Christians to consider them all the same. His concern here, as it was in Colossians, was that Christians should not judge one another about their different customs as in verse 4 i.e Romans ch 14:4. Paul was indifferent about the question of days—and the only reason that he could be indifferent about it, was that he considered the Sabbath command to be obsolete. If Christians work on the Sabbath, we are not to judge them or call them wrong, because they are not wrong. The Sabbath command does not apply. First-century Jews did not think that the Sabbath applied to Gentiles, anyway. Paul would have had an uphill battle if he had wanted to teach otherwise. The reason that Paul could be so indifferent about days, that he could tell people not to judge one another about them, is that they were not commanded. Olusanya333: God gives u free will to obey or disobey. Olusanya333 sorry if you feel offended by my previous posts, I do not seems to know how to crack a joke.. somethin' I tried and failed at.. Hope I am forgiven? I do love your write-up about the Sabbath day but there are some misconceptions about it; The Sabbath (or any other distinctive practice) can deceive a person and subtly reduce the importance of Jesus Christ. The tendency is to think, "I please God because I keep the Sabbath. I am counted as one of his people because I keep the Sabbath." But God knows us as his people through Christ, not through a day of the week. The Bible says that the only reason that we please God is because of Jesus Christ: "He saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life" (Titus 3:5-7). No matter how many laws we keep, we are sinners, and the only reason that we can be saved is because Jesus died for our sins. But a focus on laws, especially laws that make us different from other people, tends to put the focus back onto ourselves and what we do. For some people, the badge of betterness is a certain style of worship. For others, it is a certain belief, or the avoidance of alcohol, or a style of dress. For Sabbatarians, it is the Sabbath. Not everyone falls into this trap, of course, but the more distinctive the doctrines, the more likely that people will value them too highly. Suppose we come to the Day of Judgment and we are asked, "Why should we let you into the kingdom of God?" How will we answer? Will we talk about what laws we kept? Or will we trust in Christ alone? Will we try to claim part of the credit? The Bible says that our only basis of salvation is faith in Christ, and that no one has anything to boast about (Eph. 2:8-9). Our works don’t count for anything; our only hope is Jesus Christ, and any doctrine or practice that obscures this fact is an enemy of faith. Anything that tempts us to look at what we do, tempts us to take away some of the trust that we should be giving to Christ. http://www.gci.org/law/sabbath 1 Like |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by JesusisLord85: 6:40am On Sep 15, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: Lol typical of today. No precepts. Just some spiel they learned from man. What 'saith the Lord'? I showed u what it means. You do realise that whenever Paul used the word 'scripture' he could have only been referring to the law and the prophets. The only scripture of the day. Imagine teaching from that and then teaching to practice contrary to it. That, my friend, is madness. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by BossTtdiamonds(m): 1:07pm On Sep 15, 2014 |
JesusisLord85: I'll be a bit indulgent and summarize what before I had posted. But this time I will use your previous rebuttal JesusisLord85: Might I ask what religion you profess? And do you believe in the Holyspirit? |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by JesusisLord85: 1:17pm On Sep 15, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: Your previous post shows you understand not the precepts. No problem. I do no follow religion, they are all man made. I am an Israelite, a true descendant of David. And so are you. Read my threads to gain some insight. Shalom 1 Like |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by BossTtdiamonds(m): 1:39pm On Sep 15, 2014 |
JesusisLord85: You answered one but failed to answer the other.. Do you believe in the Holyspirit? |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by JesusisLord85: 3:11pm On Sep 15, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: I ignored for a reason..well 2 reasons 1. You are about to go down the shdemidemi rabbit hole 2. I am am working and don't have the energy Of course I believe. Next you will tell me what you Think having the spirit means. Then I will respond, much later, with precepts. Anyway, please do speak. What point would you like to make |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by Olusanya333(m): 6:05pm On Sep 15, 2014 |
Many here think i'm teaching sabbath as a ticket to heaven,On the Contrary I teach God commandment. Jesus says if u will enter life keep the commandment of God i.e the Ten commandment. Is one thing to be Saved(Salvation-reconciliation to God),another thing to have eternal life(Righteousness by Faith) and a different thing to enter into Life. satan is a curning spirit, If he can't stop u from believing Jesus is the Saviour sent to save d world he can move u to disobey God commandment saying u only need to believe in Jesus u don't need to Live Holy. Satan knows if u keep nine of the commandment(including sabbath) and commit adultery u have sin against God and then u r a sinner. So also with sabbath he knows u knew about it wot about he fools u to observe it d 1st day or 3rd day of d week rather dan d 7th day which d Lord bless,u r still a sinner he knows well,And he who sins is of d devil. satan knows a spot on ur garment will nt allows u into heaven. Keep God commandment if u will enter into Life. Only those who Keep God commandment with the Faith of Jesus will make Heaven. U will wonder but Faith in Christ Jesus will Save us,Yes nd I tell u if u have Salvation God will lead u to obey his Commandment and The Ten commandment will be just a little thing in thy eyes to keep nd ur Voice will always be with God all things are possible. You may say If u keep God commandment without believing in Jesus u will be saved,No,I tell u its impossible for u to keep God commandment without Salvation. So both goes together one is impossible without the other. So saints of God understand my message and admonish one another to keep God commandments for its Holy nd makes u Holy. 2 Likes |
| Re: Why Not Ask God About Sunday And The Sabbath by NicholasBu(m): 1:09pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
This is the Truth and not but the TRUTH. |
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