tpiah!:

can anyone guess which tribe this guy's dna would show:




no telling plz if you already know who he is.

Edo?

^^ He looks Yoruba.

scholes0:

^^ He looks Yoruba.

He doesn't. He looks like an Edo person, an Edo person with Igbo, or even maybe an Itsekiri.

he's half Urhobo half AA.

He was in a sitcom back in the nineties i think.

not sure what he's doing now.

Edo(Benin)did not trade ivbioba to the Europeans.There is not a single black descendant of slavery that has a drop of Edo blood in him or her.We now marry AAs and the like.But a full fledged black descendant from that unfortunate period cannot be of Edo origin.

There is not a single black descendant of slavery that has a drop of Edo blood in him or her

^^not quite true if the Ika/anioma/western Ibo side were also shipped out, since some of them had Edo blood.

The Edos that spoke the language,lived the life and ways of an ovbioba and generally conducted and considered themselves to be so were not shipped out.

^True perhaps.

However, there were edo slaves from the internecine wars, i heard.

You should know because you fought in some of those wars!

bokohalal:

There is not a single black descendant of slavery that has a drop of Edo blood in him or her.

What a reckless statement. As if people weren't kidnapped/kidnapping.

Let me put it straight.I have lot of Black American friends of both sexes. I actually do not have a problem with them. But this issue of looking for your long lost brothers and sisters and making inexplicable conjectures about someone and their supposed ancestry is ridiculous. Some of my friends want to go to Africa to trace their roots. No problem. Just look beyond Benin for that.Our ancestors sold their fellow Africans because they did not know better.But the Edos did not trade among themselves. A criminal or witch was banished from the kingdom or sent to a particular place which still exist till today. As for wars, the kingdom had it civil wars before the advent of slavery. And even for human sacrifices they were non-Edos.

bokohalal:

Let me put it straight.I have lot of Black American friends of both sexes. I actually do not have a problem with them. But this issue of looking for your long lost brothers and sisters and making inexplicable conjectures about someone and their supposed ancestry is ridiculous. Some of my friends want to go to Africa to trace their roots. No problem. Just look beyond Benin for that.Our ancestors sold their fellow Africans because they did not know better.But the Edos did not trade among themselves. A criminal or witch was banished from the kingdom or sent to a particular place which still exist till today. As for wars, the kingdom had it civil wars before the advent of slavery. And even for human sacrifices they were non-Edos.

The African knew no better selling their criminals, but we Edo only sacrificed outsiders to our gods. The statement is still reckless.

ezeagu:

What a reckless statement. As if people weren't kidnapped/kidnapping.

The point is that the Edos did not touch their own. That is a fact. And as for kidnapping, that is not a big producing slave venture.If one or two slipped through how are we sure they did not die during the voyage?

bokohalal:

If one or two slipped through how are we sure they did not die during the voyage?

Exactly.

Bokohalal you cant change history. There were internecine wars which gave rise to a lot of bini captives. You also werent there during the atlantic slave trade but you insist no binis were among them. Lets view all angles here, not just some. I`m not on the the thread looking for tenuous links to anybody either- just posting if i find a photo interesting, that`s all. The Urhobo man whose picture I posted happens to be an american actor, and i was just curious to see what tribe people would link him to. There,s another thread about americans who people dont know are nigerians which might have been more appropriate but i found this one first.

I have not yet come across ( in written or oral history) the scenario of the Edos being marched off to the coast for export.

Jamie Foxx =somalian

Look at the freakishly large forehead cheekbones and mouth lips etc, I think he reduced the forehead abit I do not know how but it looks a bit small from the 90s,

And I do know that that dude meant by solange not been from west africa, High cheek bones are more common in western africa and eastern africa, with almond shaped eyes which in england it is considered a stigmatism, ( so says my optician) because of that I have to wear glasses,

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How about Mae Jemison?







Mae Jemison: The first black female astronaut to go into space (who is light-skinned) had no discernible European ancestry in her admixture test. Out of all the famous guinea pigs, I expected her test to come back with the most mixed ancestry. Not. Her ancestry reveals her to be 84% sub-Saharan African descent, 13% East Asian, and 3% Native American. Researchers were unable to find a conclusive match for her in terms of a specific African tribe. Researchers explained her high East Asian ancestry (for black Americans) to the fact that Chinese laborers were sent to Mississippi - her family's ancestral state - in the late 1800s, so apparently one of her great-grandfathers may have been such a laborer. She was surprised to be of Asian descent , although she indicated that people had told her such during her travels to Asia. She figured that it was just traces of Native American ancestry.

south africa

pele has been spotted in igboland

I wish this thread included black Americans who aren't celebrities. Those of us who arent famous would like to know which ethnic group/groups that we come from.

ethnic groups are an european construct.

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lovelylady:

I wish this thread included black Americans who aren't celebrities. Those of us who arent famous would like to know which ethnic group/groups that we come from.

I would like to know which ethnic group you think I look like at first glance.

tpiah!:

ethnic groups are an european construct.

So Europeans made up the word 'Onyeboe' or 'Ndi mba miri'?

^^how does your question correspond with what i said?

europeans did not speak any african language and knew nothing about africa?

tpiah!:

^^how does your question correspond with what i said?

europeans did not speak any african language and knew nothing about africa?

Okay, so ethnicity is not a European construct.

Honestly, conceptuality aside, I kind of agree with tpiah. Ethnicities are more a European thing. Societies are more an African thing. At least, that's kind of how I would likely categorize the two.

@chenenyaN , Damn you are very black, black pass charcoal

kandiikane:

@chenenyaN , Damn you are very black, black pass charcoal

haha

An ethnic group is a social group. 'Ndi mba miri' is a description of ethnicity. if anything, ethnicity is more African, and nationality is more European until around a few hundred years ago. Infact, ethnicity is part of every human society.

ezeagu:

if anything, ethnicity is more African.

Yet, it is Europeans who defined ours for us. Anyway, conceptually and sociologically speaking, we're all talking about the same thing.

ChinenyeN:

Yet, it is Europeans who defined ours for us. Anyway, conceptually and sociologically speaking, we're all talking about the same thing.

Europeans did not define most African ethnicities for the people. The presence of Europeans, along with exposure to the wider world may have brought some groups closer together but that's as far as it goes for most. If this is how Europeans defined these ethnicities, then Africans were the ones who defined what it is to be white in the United States and other countries. The only Africans I know that had their ethnicity defined for them are in the diaspora, and more specifically, 'Black' Americans and they agree that this is an ethnicity defined by Europeans.