In the Bible, the book of Exodus chapter 22 vs 18 enjoins us not to permit a witch to live. Is it possible in today's contemporary world to fulfill this biblical injuction?

This scripture is usually misinterpreted. The bible didn't ask us to kill anybody.
Witchcraft is an evil spirit. The bible is saying that we should deal with the witchcraft spirit in the person not that we should kill the person.

Tannie: This scripture is usually misinterpreted. The bible didn't ask us to kill anybody. Witchcraft is an evil spirit. The bible is saying that we should deal with the witchcraft spirit in the person not that we should kill the person.

But I thought this scripture was referring to a witch, not witchcraft

jiorhemen: Tannie: This scripture is usually misinterpreted. The bible didn't ask us to kill anybody. Witchcraft is an evil spirit. The bible is saying that we should deal with the witchcraft spirit in the person not that we should kill the person.

But I thought this scripture was referring to a witch, not witchcraft

Nobody was created a witch, we are created in the image and likeness of God. The devil was once an angel until he rebelled against God. Nobody is beyound redemption, the bible is only asking us to deal with that spirit that makes that person act the way (s)he does. Christ in his teaching asked us to love and pray for our enemies.

both of u are confused

I believe that witchcraft is a spiritual thing and it should be dealt with spiritually. Some people(witches) don't want the evil spirit cast out of them. Especially if they are powerful in the coven. But a witch can be killed. It all depends on your level of spirituality. A believer has the license to kill.

That injunction in exodus was meant to be carried out literally meaning if the Israelites saw a witch, they were to put them to death physically. Same way those who did any work on the sabbath day were meant to be put to death physically according to Exodus 31:15. It was a literal and physical instruction, not a spiritual one.

Those scriptures applied strictly to the Israelites under Mosaic law. There's no way you can fulfill that scripture today as you have no right to kill somebody.

Let us as Christians stop bending the old testament to fit into our own idea of what we think it should be. God hasn't sent you on a witch hunting commission.

taiwoawoniyi: I believe that witchcraft is a spiritual thing and it should be dealt with spiritually. Some people(witches) don't want the evil spirit cast out of them. Especially if they are powerful in the coven. But a witch can be killed. It all depends on your level of spirituality. A believer has the license to kill.

My bro, who gave you this license to kill? Any scriptures apart from Exodus 22:18 which you should know has nothing to do with a christian saved by grace?

Candour:

My bro, who gave you this license to kill? Any scriptures apart from Exodus 22:18 which you should know has nothing to do with a christian saved by grace?

Bro,a witch is free to oppress you and even kill you and you watch and wait like a lamb? And 'life and death are in the power of the tongue'

taiwoawoniyi: Bro,a witch is free to oppress you and even kill you and you watch and wait like a lamb? And 'life and death are in the power of the tongue'

I'm already above a witch because of the Holy Spirit residing in me. A witch can't come close. If you're still being oppressed, then there's something wrong with your belief system. Change it.

I ask again. Who gave you the license to kill? Any scriptures to back up your claim?

Candour:

I'm already above a witch because of the Holy Spirit residing in me. A witch can't come close. If you're still being oppressed, then there's something wrong with your belief system. Change it.

I ask again. Who gave you the license to kill? Any scriptures to back up your claim?

Bro, I think we both know that there are different levels of spirituality. What a baby christian can't do, a mature christian can do. It all depends on your level of spirituality. And bro,if a witch is harassing you,you can battle with such a person. Prov 18:21-'life and death are in the power of the tongue'. So, I think we as Christians have the license to 'remove' anything that can hinder our progress. Shalom

taiwoawoniyi: Bro, I think we both know that there are different levels of spirituality. What a baby christian can't do, a mature christian can do. It all depends on your level of spirituality. And bro,if a witch is harassing you,you can battle with such a person. Prov 18:21-'life and death are in the power of the tongue'. So, I think we as Christians have the license to 'remove' anything that can hinder our progress. Shalom

You see, its necessary we get some things clear. Too many Christians quote Exodus 22:18 about a witch without realising it means a physical killing of the so called witch. That's how Israel lived. That's the law of Moses. For Christians redeemed by the blood of the lamb, we should know we are under a new dispensation. If you come into your house and everywhere is dark, what do you do? You simply turn on the light bulb and the darkness evaporates.

We should pay less attention to the devil, his minions or threats and instead spend more time with the light of God's words. I agree maturity is important and maturity doesn't come by fighting imaginary battles trying to kill witches and Satan but by reading and meditating on God's word.

Witches or whatever have no power or right over a Christian. They only mess with the mind of a child of God that has refused to grow. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly (Col3:16) and you'll see all those irrational fears of witches, wizards and the devil evaporate like darkness does when it encounters light.

God bless you plenty

Tannie:

Nobody was created a witch, we are created in the image and likeness of God. The devil was once an angel until he rebelled against God. Nobody is beyound redemption, the bible is only asking us to deal with that spirit that makes that person act the way (s)he does. Christ in his teaching asked us to love and pray for our enemies.

What about all the "sinners" that the bible commands us to stone to death? Based on your reasoning, they're all created in the image and likeness of God...Why stone to death a rebellious child? It may just be a phase, right? If a child can be killed for being rebellious, why not a witch?

Candour:

You see, its necessary we get some things clear. Too many Christians quote Exodus 22:18 about a witch without realising it means a physical killing of the so called witch. That's how Israel lived. That's the law of Moses. For Christians redeemed by the blood of the lamb, we should know we are under a new dispensation. If you come into your house and everywhere is dark, what do you do? You simply turn on the light bulb and the darkness evaporates.

We should pay less attention to the devil, his minions or threats and instead spend more time with the light of God's words. I agree maturity is important and maturity doesn't come by fighting imaginary battles trying to kill witches and Satan but by reading and meditating on God's word.

Witches or whatever have no power or right over a Christian. They only mess with the mind of a child of God that has refused to grow. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly (Col3:16) and you'll see all those irrational fears of witches, wizards and the devil evaporate like darkness does when it encounters light.

God bless you plenty

Bro,I get your angle. Its only a foolish person that would be ignorant of the devices of the enemy. John 10:10 talks about Satans agenda. We know he has come to steal,kill and destroy. Now,I personally don't endorse praying against witches everytime or casting out of demons and all those. Even though they are good but our focus should be on Jesus. A witch can kill a baby christian and no one would do anything about it. Okay,why is it that demons possess some 'christians',because they are still grappling with God. Take a look at Paul in his apostolic mission Acts 16:16. Paul had to cast out the spirit out of her and Paul was no baby christian so you have the license to kill witches. Matt 7:7

taiwoawoniyi: Bro,I get your angle. Its only a foolish person that would be ignorant of the devices of the enemy. John 10:10 talks about Satans agenda. We know he has come to steal,kill and destroy. Now,I personally don't endorse praying against witches everytime or casting out of demons and all those. Even though they are good but our focus should be on Jesus. A witch can kill a baby christian and no one would do anything about it. Okay,why is it that demons possess some 'christians',because they are still grappling with God. Take a look at Paul in his apostolic mission Acts 16:16. Paul had to cast out the spirit out of her and Paul was no baby christian so you have the license to kill witches. Matt 7:7

Was the girl out of whom Paul cast out demons a Christian? Also, did the girl die?

There's a difference between Paul casting demons out of a pagan girl and Exodus 22:18 asking Israelites to kill witches.

How does Matt 7:7 permit you to kill witches? Can we also utilise it to kill corrupt leaders?

Candour:

Was the girl out of whom Paul cast out demons a Christian? Also, did the girl die?

There's a difference between Paul casting demons out of a pagan girl and Exodus 22:18 asking Israelites to kill witches.

How does Matt 7:7 permit you to kill witches? Can we also utilise it to kill corrupt leaders?

Okay bro. I agree that that was under the law. But let's take a scenario...if an assassin comes to your house and you have a gun,would you start begging or you'll shoot? That's just the way it is. The devil and his minions have come to kill and you have a weapon... That of your tongue. Wouldn't it be wise to utilise it against them? My thoughts and beliefs bro

taiwoawoniyi: Okay bro. I agree that that was under the law. But let's take a scenario...if an assassin comes to your house and you have a gun,would you start begging or you'll shoot? That's just the way it is. The devil and his minions have come to kill and you have a weapon... That of your tongue. Wouldn't it be wise to utilise it against them? My thoughts and beliefs bro

Of course you'll shoot in self defence. The difference is that your tongue has no power to kill anybody but yourself. You can put yourself in trouble with your tongue through careless speaking and that is what Prov 18:21 is all about.

Also the devil came to steal, kill and destroy but Christ has come to give me life so why should I be bothered about the devil? If the devil couldn't kill Job in the old testament because God didn't permit him, why should I fear he can kill me who is under a better dispensation today?

Focus on what Christ has done and leave witches to keep running around in confusion. As a christian, you're above their level. That's how I live my life.

Candour:

Of course you'll shoot in self defence. The difference is that your tongue has no power to kill anybody but yourself. You can put yourself in trouble with your tongue through careless speaking and that is what Prov 18:21 is all about.

Also the devil came to steal, kill and destroy but Christ has come to give me life so why should I be bothered about the devil? If the devil couldn't kill Job in the old testament because God didn't permit him, why should I fear he can kill me who is under a better dispensation today?

Focus on what Christ has done and leave witches to keep running around in confusion. As a christian, you're above their level. That's how I live my life.

As a christian,you should understand the devices of the devil. Christianity is not a call to fun fair but a call to warfare. Being a christian,you need to confront the enemies. Eph 6:11-16 tells us about weapons of spiritual warfare. As christians,we are to fiercely engage the kingdom of darkness. Even Jesus went to the grave to confront the devil and to get the keys of life. The greatest miracle is salvation and witches would definitely be sad that they have lost a former candidate. Christianity needs a wake up call. Its time for a revival

taiwoawoniyi: As a christian,you should understand the devices of the devil. Christianity is not a call to fun fair but a call to warfare. Being a christian,you need to confront the enemies. Eph 6:11-16 tells us about weapons of spiritual warfare. As christians,we are to fiercely engage the kingdom of darkness. Even Jesus went to the grave to confront the devil and to get the keys of life. The greatest miracle is salvation and witches would definitely be sad that they have lost a former candidate. Christianity needs a wake up call. Its time for a revival

Is Christianity a call to killing of witches? See the scripture you mentioned

Ephesians 6:11-17 KJV
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

There's nothing in that scripture about killing any witch so pls bury that idea. How many witches do you imagine Paul who wrote that scripture killed in his ministerial work? Rather he asked Christians to stand against the forces of darkness. You can't kill a spirit, just resist them and they'll flee.

Stand is mentioned 4 times in that passage. That is what a man whose faith is in God should do. Just take a stand against them. The devil is a liar (John 8:44) who magnifies his capabilities to make you fear him. That is his chief device: Lies. Hold your shield of faith and sword which is the word of God close by and you'll see him and his team run far from you.

Xcapist:

What about all the "sinners" that the bible commands us to stone to death? Based on your reasoning, they're all created in the image and likeness of God...Why stone to death a rebellious child? It may just be a phase, right? If a child can be killed for being rebellious, why not a witch?

Chapter what verse what?

Tannie:

Chapter what verse what?

Deuteronomy 21:18–21
18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the
voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have
chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall
take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his
city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is
stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a
drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with
stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, q and all Israel shall
hear and fear.

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Ehen, I don remember sef, I think I have to show my uncle this verse - - that'll be demise of my cousin bro.

Xcapist:

Deuteronomy 21:18–21
18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the
voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have
chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall
take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his
city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is
stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a
drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with
stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, q and all Israel shall
hear and fear.

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Ehen, I don remember sef, I think I have to show my uncle this verse - - that'll be demise of my cousin bro.

That a mosaic law naa, it doesn't apply to christains.

Tannie:

That a mosaic law naa, it doesn't apply to christains.

wait, wait, wait, you mean to tell me that Christians are not worshippers of the OT Yahweh? I always thought they worship the OT God who never "changes or cast even a moving shadow."

Well then, milady, I invite you to a thread I started: www.nairaland.com/1924139/old-testament-perfect-god-why#26697441

Tannie:

That a mosaic law naa, it doesn't apply to christains.

Which is why folks quoting Exodus 22:18 against a supposed witch should also desist from it. We should focus on what concerns us and leave Mosaic law for those it was intended for.

Cheers sis

Tannie:

Chapter what verse what?

Do you mean Chapters and verses?

Here you go:

For touching Mount Sinai
Whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death. Exodus 19:13

For taking "accursed things"
Achan ... took of the accursed thing. ... And all Israel stoned him with stones,
and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. ... So the
LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger. Joshua 7:1-26

For cursing or blaspheming
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to
death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. Leviticus 24:16

For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough)
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in
the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of
that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel,
because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24

For animals (like an ox that gores a human)
If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely
stoned. Exodus 21:28

For a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her ... and say, I took this
woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father
of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's
virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel's father shall
say ... these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread
the cloth before the elders of the city. ... But if this thing be true, and the
tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the
damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone
her with stones that she die. Deuteronomy 22:13-21

For worshipping other gods
If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods, and
worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... tone them with stones, till they die.
Deuteronomy 17:2-5
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of
thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly,
saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor
thy fathers ... thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy
13:5-10

For disobeying parents
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of
his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay
hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say
unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not
obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall
stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21

For witches and wizards
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely
be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon
them. Leviticus 20:27

For giving your children to Molech
Whosoever ... giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to
death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. Leviticus 20:2

For breaking the Sabbath
They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. ... And the LORD
said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation
shall stone him with stones.... And all the congregation brought him without the
camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded
Moses. Numbers 15:32-56

For cursing the king
Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone
him, that he may die. 1 Kings 21:10

Candour:

Is Christianity a call to killing of witches? See the scripture you mentioned

Ephesians 6:11-17 KJV
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

There's nothing in that scripture about killing any witch so pls bury that idea. How many witches do you imagine Paul who wrote that scripture killed in his ministerial work? Rather he asked Christians to stand against the forces of darkness. You can't kill a spirit, just resist them and they'll flee.

Stand is mentioned 4 times in that passage. That is what a man whose faith is in God should do. Just take a stand against them. The devil is a liar (John 8:44) who magnifies his capabilities to make you fear him. That is his chief device: Lies. Hold your shield of faith and sword which is the word of God close by and you'll see him and his team run far from you.

I'm not saying that you should take guns to go on a killing spree. If a witch is opressing you,you can surely take it to the spiritual realm and he/she would die physically. Why do mysterious accidents happen? Because the people who have more spiritual knowledge and ranking know how to tap into the dark forces. If you sit there like a lamb,you'll surely be killed like a lamb. Heb 11:29 For our God is a consuming fire. Even when Elijah was almost captured ,he called fire down on 102 people II Kings 1:10. He didn't wait there looking,he had to take charge. And Elisha after taking up double portion of the anointing cursed the little children and she bears devoured them(note that God loves little children). We are not called to be wimpy people. Christians are to be battle axes of this generation. Matt 11:12 The kingdom of God suffers violence. Great men of God have decreed and the physical manifestation occurred. One of my most respected...Pastor E.A Adeboye recalled a story. He went to visit one of his sons whose house was beside that of a witch doctor. Then his son complained about the interference with his spiritual life. Pastor Adeboye went there and decreed and within 7 days,the doctor was dead. Some people have to die for destiny to be fulfilled. I pray that God should give US ALL deeper revelation of His word. Shalom

Candour:

Is Christianity a call to killing of witches? See the scripture you mentioned

Ephesians 6:11-17 KJV
Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. [12] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . [13] Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. [14] Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; [15] And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; [16] Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. [17] And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

There's nothing in that scripture about killing any witch so pls bury that idea. How many witches do you imagine Paul who wrote that scripture killed in his ministerial work? Rather he asked Christians to stand against the forces of darkness. You can't kill a spirit, just resist them and they'll flee.

Stand is mentioned 4 times in that passage. That is what a man whose faith is in God should do. Just take a stand against them. The devil is a liar (John 8:44) who magnifies his capabilities to make you fear him. That is his chief device: Lies. Hold your shield of faith and sword which is the word of God close by and you'll see him and his team run far from you.

I'm not saying that you should take guns to go on a killing spree. If a witch is opressing you,you can surely take it to the spiritual realm and he/she would die physically. Why do mysterious accidents happen? Because the people who have more spiritual knowledge and ranking know how to tap into the dark forces. If you sit there like a lamb,you'll surely be killed like a lamb. Heb 11:29 For our God is a consuming fire. Even when Elijah was almost captured ,he called fire down on 102 people II Kings 1:10. He didn't wait there looking,he had to take charge. And Elisha after taking up double portion of the anointing cursed the little children and she bears devoured them(note that God loves little children). We are not called to be wimpy people. Christians are to be battle axes of this generation. Matt 11:12 The kingdom of God suffers violence. Great men of God have decreed and the physical manifestation occurred. One of my most respected...Pastor E.A Adeboye recalled a story. He went to visit one of his sons whose house was beside that of a witch doctor. Then his son complained about the interference with his spiritual life. Pastor Adeboye went there and decreed and within 7 days,the doctor was dead. Some people have to die for destiny to be fulfilled. I pray that God should give US ALL deeper revelation of His word. Shalom

taiwoawoniyi: I'm not saying that you should take guns to go on a killing spree. If a witch is opressing you,you can surely take it to the spiritual realm and he/she would die physically. Why do mysterious accidents happen? Because the people who have more spiritual knowledge and ranking know how to tap into the dark forces. If you sit there like a lamb,you'll surely be killed like a lamb. Heb 11:29 For our God is a consuming fire. Even when Elijah was almost captured ,he called fire down on 102 people II Kings 1:10. He didn't wait there looking,he had to take charge. And Elisha after taking up double portion of the anointing cursed the little children and she bears devoured them(note that God loves little children). We are not called to be wimpy people. Christians are to be battle axes of this generation. Matt 11:12 The kingdom of God suffers violence. Great men of God have decreed and the physical manifestation occurred. One of my most respected...Pastor E.A Adeboye recalled a story. He went to visit one of his sons whose house was beside that of a witch doctor. Then his son complained about the interference with his spiritual life. Pastor Adeboye went there and decreed and within 7 days,the doctor was dead. Some people have to die for destiny to be fulfilled. I pray that God should give US ALL deeper revelation of His word. Shalom

I won't stop your belief but there's nothing christian about all you relayed up there. You talked about Elijah calling fire down from heaven. I hope you know physical fire fell? How many fires have fallen since you started calling down fires on witches and wizards? Also hope you know Elijah wasn't a Christian?

Show me an example of witch killing, fire calling on enemies in the new testament after Christianity started. You think all those shouts of die by fire and holy ghost fire shows you're not a weak christian? No my friend. It shows you as being too fearful for a child of the living God. Paul in the admonition on principalities and powers said all I need to do is stand and that's what I do.

Who is a wimpy christian? The one running from pillar to post, from one prayer point to the other because of a witch doctor or the one who lives his life as if they don't exist?

My dear, I stopped thinking about them years ago and they're powerless where I am. I wish you can come to this understanding and stop being scared of them. He that is in me is greater than he that is in the world. That's what scripture says. Try and believe it.

Candour:

I won't stop your belief but there's nothing christian about all you relayed up there. You talked about Elijah calling fire down from heaven. I hope you know physical fire fell? How many fires have fallen since you started calling down fires on witches and wizards? Also hope you know Elijah wasn't a Christian?

Show me an example of witch killing, fire calling on enemies in the new testament after Christianity started. You think all those shouts of die by fire and holy ghost fire shows you're not a weak christian? No my friend. It shows you as being too fearful for a child of the living God. Paul in the admonition on principalities and powers said all I need to do is stand and that's what I do.

Who is a wimpy christian? The one running from pillar to post, from one prayer point to the other because of a witch doctor or the one who lives his life as if they don't exist?

My dear, I stopped thinking about them years ago and they're powerless where I am. I wish you can come to this understanding and stop being scared of them. He that is in me is greater than he that is in the world. That's what scripture says. Try and believe it.

Bro, I hope you know that this is the end-time and that the battle against principalties and power is growing more fierce by the day but we shall overcome. I think you know Elijah was a man of God... Well,what do you have to say about Pastor Adeboye's testimony(or isn't he a christian). Well,I stick to my beliefs,you stick to yours. I deeply appreciate your maturity. It has surely been an entertaining and highly informative debate. It was nice. Learnt loads. Its obvious nothing I can say can keep your beliefs. I rest my case. Gods grace be with us all. Shalom bro.

taiwoawoniyi: Bro, I hope you know that this is the end-time and that the battle against principalties and power is growing more fierce by the day but we shall overcome. I think you know Elijah was a man of God... Well,what do you have to say about Pastor Adeboye's testimony(or isn't he a christian). Well,I stick to my beliefs,you stick to yours. I deeply appreciate your maturity. It has surely been an entertaining and highly informative debate. It was nice. Learnt loads. Its obvious nothing I can say can keep your beliefs. I rest my case. Gods grace be with us all. Shalom bro.

Yeah Elijah was a man of God but under a totally different dispensation than ours. Adeboye is a christian but what you relayed about him is his personal experience and I doubt its wise to take it above the bible. Yeah, i won't quarell with your right to hold to your beliefs and I appreciate your maturity too. God bless you and help us all to keep growing in wisdom and understanding of his words. Amen

Meanwhile as an aside, why have you not changed the "awo" in your name? I spent 11 years in MFM and was taught that such name limits one's destiny and puts one in bondage. I won't press you if you don't feel like talking about it.

Cheers bro

Candour:

Yeah Elijah was a man of God but under a totally different dispensation than ours. Adeboye is a christian but what you relayed about him is his personal experience and I doubt its wise to take it above the bible. Yeah, i won't quarell with your right to hold to your beliefs and I appreciate your maturity too. God bless you and help us all to keep growing in wisdom and understanding of his words. Amen

Meanwhile as an aside, why have you not changed the "awo" in your name? I spent 11 years in MFM and was taught that such name limits one's destiny and puts one in bondage. I won't press you if you don't feel like talking about it.

Cheers bro

Lol. Bro,you actually made me laugh. I've been pressurized by a lot of people. And questioned about my name. I believe that if the Holy Spirit asks me to,ill gladly change it. And besides,my dad is a redeemed pastor and he hasn't changed it so why should I? Well,if God says so,then ill change it. You sound like Oyedepo. Are you a winner?

taiwoawoniyi: Lol. Bro,you actually made me laugh. I've been pressurized by a lot of people. And questioned about my name. I believe that if the Holy Spirit asks me to,ill gladly change it. And besides,my dad is a redeemed pastor and he hasn't changed it so why should I? Well,if God says so,then ill change it. You sound like Oyedepo. Are you a winner?

Are you a detective? how did you decipher my connection with LFC? I was a member though not anymore but I lost all my fears while there

Also, its good you refused to bow to the pressure on your name. Thank God for your dad and I wish him success in his ministry.

Cheers