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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by lharstborn(m): 1:47am On Sep 29, 2014
The country's educational system needs a total overhaul. From the teachers training colleges to the colleges of education and finally to the universities. Go to an average College of education and see the rot there,no infrastructure,no manpower etc. I was at the Federal College of Education Abeokuta a while ago and the campus looked like a poultry farm,(no insults intended). How can one expect a student to learn under such enviroment.? Also how many public schools and even private schools have a functional Counselling Unit and a school's Guidiance Counsellor? Even those that have Guidance Counsellors force the Counsellor to take up a teaching subject which is not supposed to happen;to make matters worse the existing Guidiance Counsellors are not ready to brush up their knowledge and skills by attending seminars,workshops,and conferences.
Now to the government,how can expect the teachers to be motivated when the FG and state governments refuse to allocate the UNESCO approved benchmark for what percentage of the budget to be allocated to education which is 25%. Any country which is serious about tackling her educational deficiencies must be ready to invest in her education,not the paltry sums of 4.5%,7%,etc.
Lastly all the bodies responsible for the policies making and decisions concerning education and teachers overall engagement in the teaching profession must all be funded properly and they must all buckle up.
@ Op..looking at this issue you raised,we can go on and on discussing it but we must be real and face the facts that the issue on ground is multi-faceted,it is a part of the whole societal imbroglio in which this nation of ours is currently in.

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by kelechiMarie(f): 3:25am On Sep 29, 2014
you're so right@op I really pity teachers especially those that teach in private schools[teachers in govt.schools hardly work]they're overworked and underpaid.Imagine someone teaching from 9am-4pm and earns less than twenty thousand and he still has to deal with insolent,lazy and rude students!no wonder they're usually hot-tempered

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by dejt4u(m): 7:30am On Sep 29, 2014
Are the mods still sleeping
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by MenGoingThereWay: 9:01am On Sep 29, 2014
When the Nigeria Government decides to take education seriously then the plight of teachers would change for good.

In developed countries or countries that want to develop take education and teachers seriously.

I think one of the major set back in Nigeria development is the attitude of our leaders towardS education and teachers.

-MenGoingThereWay.

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by darlingnuel(m): 9:09am On Sep 29, 2014
Awesome and articulate piece! But you see, ur points aren't so true for Government-owned schools. I suppose, they get better pay package and experience lesser stress. Ultimately, I'm afraid, as far as high rate of unemployment persists in this country, private schools will still treat teachers like trash. Why? Because, thousands are out there waiting to takeover from you! They know there's mass unemployment, hence they usurp the situation to rubbish applicants. Way forward? Get a PGD... M. Ed... Upgrade! Aspire to lecture in a reputable higher institution!

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Missonas(f): 9:31am On Sep 29, 2014
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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by dejt4u(m): 10:00am On Sep 29, 2014
Missonas: cry
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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Missonas(f): 10:38am On Sep 29, 2014
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No no not funny we should cry grin
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Mayour11(m): 10:50am On Sep 29, 2014
lharstborn: The country's educational system needs a total overhaul. From the teachers training colleges to the colleges of education and finally to the universities. Go to an average College of education and see the rot there,no infrastructure,no manpower etc. I was at the Federal College of Education Abeokuta a while ago and the campus looked like a poultry farm,(no insults intended). How can one expect a student to learn under such enviroment.?
Bro, u made a point, but next time don't be specific, this is a social platform and anything you post here can be assessed anywhere in the world.
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by killercute16(m): 12:15pm On Sep 29, 2014
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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by naturalwaves: 6:36pm On Sep 29, 2014
kelechiMarie: you're so right@op I really pity teachers especially those that teach in private schools[teachers in govt.schools hardly work]they're overworked and underpaid.Imagine someone teaching from 9am-4pm and earns less than twenty thousand and he still has to deal with insolent,lazy and rude students!no wonder they're usually hot-tempered
Let me correct you there, teachers in government schools do a whole lot of work. What do you mean by they hardly work? How many students are in those private schools? How many periods do the teachers have per week? In a government school, a teacher to student ratio can be 1 to 700+. The continuous assessment could be in 4 places, imagine marking 700 scripts in 4 places, that is about 2800 scripts in all. Some of the schools have classes in the range A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J . Most times, you move from class to class and if care is not taken, you will start feeling dizzy on the fourth class and your voice begins to faint. Resumption time is 7.45 am and close time s around 4pm. So, teachers in government schools do more work than you can ever imagine. Okay?

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by MrPeaceman(m): 7:30pm On Sep 29, 2014
This is a very nice and inspiring article. The above commenters have said it all, I don't have anything different to add. The way the writer (onihaxy) thinks, is the way most Nigerians ought to think. Its high time we look into the society, examine things, and work on modifying ill issues. It begins with one step.

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Youngsage: 9:51pm On Sep 29, 2014
wow! Interesting read, quite apt. Nice exposition onihaxy. What a pity, the sorry state of naija's educational sector. Diaris Godu

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Youngsage: 9:56pm On Sep 29, 2014
I also smh for d mods, N.L. Topics about 'BBA' or similar rubbish would have made fp within seconds! Diaris Godu!!!

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Nobody: 10:13pm On Sep 29, 2014
mumumugu: Wen i was in skul.....

Teeacher ;what d u wana b in future

me : teacher

teacher : u be mumu


#LaughingSoHardAndBangingHandsAndLegsOnTheFloor

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Nobody: 10:16pm On Sep 29, 2014
in the next ten years i can bet u there will hardly any teachers around to teach our kids.




Wen how to get easy quick money don scatter everybody head, how things wan change?
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Nobody: 11:19pm On Sep 29, 2014
naturalwaves:
Let me correct you there, teachers in government schools do a whole lot of work. What do you mean by they hardly work? How many students are in those private schools? How many periods do the teachers have per week? In a government school, a teacher to student ratio can be 1 to 700+. The continuous assessment could be in 4 places, imagine marking 700 scripts in 4 places, that is about 2800 scripts in all. Some of the schools have classes in the range A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J . Most times, you move from class to class and if care is not taken, you will start feeling dizzy on the fourth class and your voice begins to faint. Resumption time is 7.45 am and close time s around 4pm. So, teachers in government schools do more work than you can ever imagine. Okay?
very fat lie...I taught in a govt school as a corp member. you say they have up to 10arms? That's if the subject is general, what of electives?
I taught acctng...we had 3 accounting arms for each level (ss1-3). My dear, I lost count of how many acct teachers, of which I didn't even know them till the day Ministry of Education came - I was surprised to see over 10teachers telling me and my fellow corp member that we suppose to be reporting to them. These are people we have never seen. They don't even set tough questions - I remember setting my exam questions and the principal asked me if I'm sure they can answer this one
-I can remember being told to approximate 35 to 40 so the student can @least get an E
-I can remember seeing so any exotic cars by 7:45 to sign attendance - by 9am...you can count the no of cars/teachers that would be remaining.

In govt schools the student don't even come to school, they don't even like to take their test...
So where would you even see the 700 scripts to mark?
Is it the script that you can mark in 30secs? Because they wouldn't write anything sensible

In a govt school, you may just have to teach twice in a week(a particular arm/class). The students don't even challenge you, so it's easy for you to enter the class and freestyle. You can't compare it to teaching private students - that keep asking you both the one that is their business and the one that isn't

By the way private school pass private sch...my secondary sch had 12arms of each class from Jss1 - Ss3 (it was a private sch). Not all private schools are densely populated

I'm not saying all govt. schools are bad - but majority of them are lazy! They don't do anything!

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by naturalwaves: 11:42pm On Sep 29, 2014
Kachisbarbie:
very fat lie...I taught in a govt school as a corp member. you say they have up to 10arms? That's if the subject is general, what of electives?
I thought acctng...we had 3 accounting arms for each level (ss1-3). My dear, I lost count of how many acct teachers, of which I didn't even know them till the day Ministry of Education came - I was surprised to see over 10teachers telling me and my fellow corp member that we suppose to be reporting to them. These are people we have never seen. They don't even set tough questions - I remember setting my exam questions and the principal asked me if I'm sure they can answer this one
-I can remember being told to approximate 35 to 40 so the student can @least get an E
-I can remember seeing so any exotic cars by 7:45 to sign attendance - by 9am...you can count the no of cars/teachers that would be remaining.

In govt schools the student don't even come to school, they don't even like to take their test...
So where would you even see the 700 scripts to mark?
Is it the script that you can mark in 30secs? Because they wouldn't write anything sensible

In a govt school, you may just have to teach twice in a week(a particular arm/class). The students don't even challenge you, so it's easy for you to enter the class and freestyle. You can't compare it to teaching private students - that keep asking you both the one that is their business and the one that isn't

By the way private school pass private sch...my secondary sch had 12arms of each class from Jss1 - Ss3 (it was a private sch). Not all private schools are densely populated

I'm not saying all govt. schools are bad - but majority of them are lazy! They don't do anything!

...Well, definitely not in Lagos. Where was your NYSC? Moreover, elective subjects wouldn't be taught to all students (we all know that one) even in private schools. So, that point doesn't count.
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by naturalwaves: 12:45am On Sep 30, 2014
Kachisbarbie:
very fat lie...I taught in a govt school as a corp member. you say they have up to 10arms? That's if the subject is general, what of electives?


Of course, everyone knows that elective subjects like further mathematics would be taken by a smaller number of students and I expected you to know I was giving an example of a general subject there.


Moreover, if electives are taken by a lower number of students, the number of students that will take such electives in government schools will definitely be far more than the number that will take such in 98% of private schools or are you trying to dispute the fact that the population of public school students is at least times 5 of the average private schools? This your point is off it. Let's see the next one.





Kachisbarbie: I thought acctng...we had 3 accounting arms for each level (ss1-3). My dear, I lost count of how many acct teachers, of which I didn't even know them till the day Ministry of Education came - I was surprised to see over 10teachers telling me and my fellow corp member that we suppose to be reporting to them. These are people we have never seen
.



You mistakenly spelt "taught" as "thought". I think you should correct that first.





Kachisbarbie: They don't even set tough questions - I remember setting my exam questions and the principal asked me if I'm sure they can answer this one

If she asks that, it could mean different things. Probably she is not sure enough if you have taught well enough to give the kind of questions you have set.

Kachisbarbie: -I can remember being told to approximate 35 to 40 so the student can @least get an E

This one could happen anywhere and it is a well known fact that private schools do it more.Infact, when students repeat in the public schools, they will go and register in private schools and never repeat because it is almost unheard of. They will push them till final classes where they will be given photocopies of "orijo" to copy and blast external exams.




Kachisbarbie: -I can remember seeing so any exotic cars by 7:45 to sign attendance - by 9am...you can count the no of cars/teachers that would be remaining

The principal of such school is imcompetent and needs to be fired.


Kachisbarbie: In govt schools the student don't even come to school, they don't even like to take their test...
So where would you even see the 700 scripts to mark?
Is it the script that you can mark in 30secs? Because they wouldn't write anything sensible

You wouldn't want to start what you cannot finish. The best scholars have been known to be the product of public schools overtime. It is an insult to say they do not write anything sensible. Moreover, truancy van be played by anyone whether in a government school or private.




Kachisbarbie: In a govt school, you may just have to teach twice in a week(a particular arm/class). The students don't even challenge you, so it's easy for you to enter the class and freestyle. You can't compare it to teaching private students - that keep asking you both the one that is their business and the one that isn't


If they do not challenge you nor ask you questions, then you lack the requisite knowledge and skills to teach effectively, you failed to bring out the curiosity in them and that was why someone suggested that only qualified persons should teach and not crashers. In this case, you have no option as it was NYSC's posting so I won't blame you for being unskilled and inexperience.

Kachisbarbie: By the way private school pass private sch...my secondary sch had 12arms of each class from Jss1 - Ss3 (it was a private sch). Not all private schools are densely populated

I think this statement is bereft of logic. If your so called private secondary school had 12 arms for each of the classes from jss1- ss3, that means it is a big private school and the population of the students is on the high only for you to say again that "not all private schools are densely populated". That does not follow.





Kachisbarbie: I'm not saying all govt. schools are bad - but majority of them are lazy! They don't do anything!
Who are the "them"? This thread is referring to teachers and if it is the teachers in government schools you are referring to, this is not true. Majority of the are not lazy, at least I can speak for lagos state. Teaching is being carried out in a standardized way with the best brains available. I could take you round on an excursion in your free time. The only thing that is needed is just a better conducive working environment and a substantial salary. Again, I ask, where was your NYSC? The scenerios you pasted here are really dusgusting.

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Nobody: 12:59am On Sep 30, 2014
naturalwaves:

...Well, definitely not in Lagos. Where was your NYSC? Moreover, elective subjects wouldn't be taught to all students (we all know that one) even in private schools. So, that point doesn't count.

yeayea...all your points count Sir.
Now...clap for yourself, after that learn how to talk/type politely. Your choice of words tells a lot about your person.
-we can't all share same opinion, when someone doesn't agree with yours - please don't get worked up.

@your post
- unskilled and 'inexperienced' not 'inexperience'
-incompetent not 'imcompetent'
-over time not 'overtime'

feel free to say it's a typo

You said you were giving an example of a general subject, lets say I'm not a psychic to read your mind(or I might decide not to get your point) ...maybe you should be specific in future.

No one gets it all right...#ChewOnThat#

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by naturalwaves: 1:11am On Sep 30, 2014
Kachisbarbie:

yeayea...all your points count Sir.
Now...clap for yourself, after that learn how to talk/type politely. Your choice of words tells a lot about your person.
I am sorry if you are vexed. The tone of your first reply was filled with insults both to the teachers and students of government schools and to think such points were gathered from a poorly done research based on a few selective samples and even maybe just one on field experience of teaching in a school we don't know the location deserves nothing but a reply in the same tone. Once again, sorry if you are vexed.

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by naturalwaves: 1:22am On Sep 30, 2014
Kachisbarbie:

yeayea...all your points count Sir.
Now...clap for yourself, after that learn how to talk/type politely. Your choice of words tells a lot about your person.
-we can't all share same opinion, when someone doesn't agree with yours - please don't get worked up.

@your post
- unskilled and 'inexperienced' not 'inexperience'
-incompetent not 'imcompetent'
-over time not 'overtime'

feel free to say it's a typo

You said you were giving an example of a general subject, lets say I'm not a psychic to read your mind(or I might decide not to get your point) ...maybe you should be specific in future.

No one gets it all right...#ChewOnThat#


Hahahahaha, you are so funny dear. Honestly, you need not take these things personal, they are harmless points and thanks for the corrections. I won't edit the typos tongue
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Nobody: 1:30am On Sep 30, 2014
naturalwaves:


Hahahahaha, you are so funny dear. Honestly, you need not take these things personal, they are harmless points and thanks for the corrections. I won't edit the typos tongue

I wish I had the time to take it personal...but nahhh - it's not my person. If I wanted to take it personal, I know the perfect way to reply you, that would match your choice of words. Feel free not to edit them, I found it 'disgusting' that you read a whole post of God knows how many characters/words and took out your time to pick out 1 error...'very disgusting' to put it lightly

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by naturalwaves: 1:38am On Sep 30, 2014
Kachisbarbie:

I wish I had the time to take it personal...but nahhh - it's not my person. If I wanted to take it personal, I know the perfect way to reply you, that would match your choice of words. Feel free not to edit them, I found it 'disgusting' that you read a whole post of God knows how many characters/words and took out your time to pick out 1 error...'very disgusting' to put it lightly

I get your point, I am sorry dear. I was only trying to put a bit of humour to the debate. These things happen all the time to everyone and nothing can dispute the fact that you are a very sound lady. Afterall, if you check the first line of your teaching experience, you spelt it perfectly. Don't mind me.




P.S: I don't want to edit my own typos because that is what will make it "fun to read" and show that it happens to everyone. #English na awa mama tongue? cheesy#

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Valentinooo: 7:34am On Sep 30, 2014
moderators in the house, I think this topic deserves front page

Obinoscopy, mynd_44, olawalebabs, Richiez, Fynestboi pls do the needful
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by lharstborn(m): 8:59am On Sep 30, 2014
Mayour11:
but next time don't be specific, this is a social platform and anything you post here can be assessed anywhere in the world.

Thanks bro, I appreciate...but how can we be objective in our criticisms and detailed analyses if we can't be specific?
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by Mayour11(m): 3:24pm On Sep 30, 2014
lharstborn:

Thanks bro, I appreciate...but how can we be objective in our criticisms and detailed analyses if we can't be specific?

It's true, but this is Nigeria, the giant of Africa. You know what I mean
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by dayoungmoney1: 5:55pm On Oct 04, 2014
Despite several pleas the mods are yet to move this topic to FP... well, it's not a topic on romance that's why! bomboclats!

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by dejt4u(m): 6:01pm On Oct 12, 2014
Olawalebabs, Richiez, Fynestboi
dis thread shld nt just die lyk this without gracing the front page..

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by YoungIncredible: 11:07am On Oct 18, 2014
Haba. This is so unfair on the mods.
Cc
Obinoscopy
Olawalebabs
Fynestboi
Seun
Mynd44
Richiez
Rokiatu
Seun.

I don't see anything wrong in this beautiful topic and article making it to the front page pls. This is just the summary of what the teaching profession in nigeria looks like and nairalanders should be given chance to debate on it.
Na God I take beg all of una. I don't mind paying for it to get to frontpage pls.
Several people above me had pleaded for it to be moved, me too I'm also pleading abeg. Thanks

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Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by timothyuche1(m): 7:44pm On Oct 21, 2014
I honestly wonder what is happening to nairaland these days , before becoming a member of nairaland, i visited nairaland as a guest, I was constantly education and elevated by posts on front page, but now what do we see on front page: 2face shoe, picture of wizkid with his follow kid, okocha and his wife, tiwa savage outfit, Linda ikeji's car etc while interesting topic like this won't hit front page. Nairaland mods and super mods are now interested in Romanance answer celebrity sections only

Cc
Seun
Obinoscopy
Mynd44
Re: The Pitiable Life Of A Nigerian Teacher. The Way Forward?? by dejt4u(m): 8:36pm On Oct 21, 2014
timothyuche1:
I honestly wonder what is happening to nairaland these days , before becoming a member of nairaland, i visited nairaland as a guest, I was constantly education and elevated by posts on front page, but now what do we see on front page: 2face shoe, picture of wizkid with his follow kid, okocha and his wife, tiwa savage outfit, Linda ikeji's car etc while interesting topic like this won't hit front page. Nairaland mods and super mods are now interested in Romanance answer celebrity sections only

Cc
Seun
Obinoscopy
Mynd44
you mean those hypocrites?

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