iwonbaoko:

Which one Jonah in the fish belly or Noah in the ark with lions and gorillas? Or Moses parting the Red Sea for Israelites to cross on dry land? Or that God made Mary pregnant with Jesus?
Or Moses and his rod turning to a snake?
Personally I prefer the tale of Oduduwa coming don from heaven with a chain

lol. you don't believe in metaphysics ?

ofsegs:
lol. you don't believe in metaphysics ?

Believe? What is there to believe or not believe. Do you know the actual meaning of that word I doubt it
That is like asking do I believe in English language ,what does that mean?

If not before, now i kn; dat its realy endtime period we are,@OP i wonder what kind øƒ "spirit" got into u dat made u to type such an article at this Volume.#the time u spent on typing such a lenghty words just to try to "rubbish" Anoitted men øƒ God is just crazy.

Aida13: I don't understand the relevance of this post? Trials and tribulations have always been part of the world. Cancer, AIDS, and even leprosy from the bible days. Why call on men of God particularly? They play their part surely, but don't expect anyone with a magic wand to solve all your problems. Or else some people will find no need for faith or God. Just pray for a solution and be the change you want to see around you.

Remember say dis trial and tribulation fit reach u one day, I hope u no go talk dis Swahili dat time.

eleko1: It is God working Miracle/virtue of God not a man.Yes,a white Man Pastor have cured Ebola with God confirmed His words with healing.Pls,google is ur friend

Eleko or wet in be ya name, u well?

So why no healing?

Largely because God does not heal people so that they can go home and rest comfortably. God heals people so that his purpose on Earth, which is not necessarily what we think it is , be fufilled.

The thing is, God is not going to come and heal West African Christians, with their condoning of corruption and corrupt leaders, tribalism, violence, impure behaviour and so on....factors which led to the messy health care system and supporting infrastructure that made it so difficult to combat the Ebola virus. Yes, God does not hear the prayers of a corrupt and sinful people. The thing is, Christians are supposed to be the light of the world, yet most of us are anything but that. If God should heal us of Ebola...we will just go back to our corrupt behaviour....and the purpose of God will be messed up.

And why should God move through pastors....like the one who cannot keep his home,or the one whose plane was used for money laundering. Or the ones who talk miracles all day long...but cannot condemn evil of their leaders or followers. Tell me, did Jesus come to make us like him or to make us enjoy life here on Planet Earth? Why should God move thorugh Christians who want their blessings....rather than what God wants?

Hear the words of the Atheist Leo. And go home, dear fellow Christians, and get rid of your bigotry, your corruption, your bad leaders and your pride. Start to work for change in your countries.Stand for elections, and work for an end to corruption, an end to tribalism and an end to inefficency. Stop talking about fighting the Islamic fundamentalist with fire for fire. Pray for him, and promote polices that end the mass poverty that fuel things like Boko Haram.

God does not move amongst sinful people. Time we who are supposed to be the light actually do that. Away with evil.

OP, you should understand that there is a reason always as to why certain things happen in this life. You definitely have a long way to go using healing and miracles as basis to affirm the existence of God. Even the people of old after witnessing many signs and wonders performed by Jesus still could not believe Him. Even if God should heal the Ebola patients to convince you, it will only create more ground for you to keep bringing more tests to him. Would you say because the followers of Christ were persecuted and killed is an indicator that there is no God?
Wake up my brother and face reality, for God is real. Whatever your problem is, it is never to big or a threat that he can not solve. God is not looking for people to heal so as to convince people like you, but as many that look up to him for his grace of healing, He is willing to touch their lives and do what he knows is best for them.
I tell you today OP, God exists, but you can never find him if you don't seek him. May his grace be upon U!

Who are u to judge? The Bible says "judge nt dat u may nt be judged" The judgememt is of the LORD. The reality is this is the end time. Things like wars, diseases, conflicts, crimes, etc, must happen to affairm the scripture. And @ this junture there's no prayer that will work. And if anyone tries to resist by prayer, it will seems like u are trying to tempt God.

Funny people every where! TB Joshua sent some anointed water and 50 thousand in cash to Sierialeone. He also hired a private jet to convey the water which cost him another 50 thousand dollars. Knowing how current our African leaders are, it's possible they dumped the water some where and shared the money.

Lemme ask you this what are your efforts so far and also that of your spiritual leader in your place of worship? Nothing I guess... Pathetic !

It's the pray of this same men and God and saint that made Ebola a thing of the past in Nigeria.

boujaye: SINCE YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD OR IN THE POWER AND ABILITY OF GOD AND HIS WAYS, ITS NEEDLESS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTS. BUT ONE THING U HAVE TO KNOW IS THAT GOD DON'T JUST GO ABOUT HEALING EVERYMAN WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE, YOUR DOUBTS DOESN'T STOP OR REDUCE GOD FOR WHOM HE IS. IT'S NOT OF ADEBOYE, NOR OYEDEPO BUT OF CHRIST JESUS WHO DWELLS IN THEM THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT. I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF GOD THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

What a nonesense.
So you have to believe before god heals you?
In that case I would assume that all who are healthy are so because they believe, and conversely those who are ailing in our hospitals this very moment are ill because they don't believe?
You god must be as silly as those those that believe that he heals.

Let me take you back to the old testament, where god was soooo helpless agains leprosy, that he ordered that they be quarantined from the general population.

Ebola, as well as other diseases kill humans , but also kill god over and over again.

Stop Ranting Mr.op did this healers you mentioned cause the disease?Even if you heal them of Ebola what about their inherent ignorance and stu.pidity?

emmanuelogbe: OP, you should understand that there is a reason always as to why certain things happen in this life. You definitely have a long way to go using healing and miracles as basis to affirm the existence of God. Even the people of old after witnessing many signs and wonders performed by Jesus still could not believe Him. Even if God should heal the Ebola patients to convince you, it will only create more ground for you to keep bringing more tests to him. Would you say because the followers of Christ were persecuted and killed is an indicator that there is no God?
Wake up my brother and face reality, for God is real. Whatever your problem is, it is never to big or a threat that he can not solve. God is not looking for people to heal so as to convince people like you, but as many that look up to him for his grace of healing, He is willing to touch their lives and do what he knows is best for them.
I tell you today OP, God exists, but you can never find him if you don't seek him. May his grace be upon U!

God must be really silly if he has to find a reason to heal and help people, believers for that matter, out of misery.

Now, let me ask again, if god works in mysterious ways, ways unknown even to those who make living selling him, then WTF is religion, faith, church, priests and pastors all about?
If god;s ways are a non-discernable mystery onto man, then, Is religion, the church, pastors and priests not therefore irrelevant, redundant and superfuous?

Are atheists not right to maintain that the idea of god is not only contradictory, but completely useless in the affairs of man and the universe?

those people self, them dey claim men of GOD but they have refused to take risks

Nascimento:

Brossss. I hail o. which time dem manufacture Fathometer? Lol. u must have 80% faith for healing to take place? ehnn. Bros, merely seeking the help of these pastors shows that the infected have profound faith in them and God's healing power. How else can faith be measured again?
That's the excuse they give when they can't heal a person.
Mtsheww

Dont quote me w***g man:
... mind u wot i was tryn 2 say indirectly (80 - 85%) is dat u must have a strong faith even b4 anyman of God lays hand on u 4 healing.... I guess u knw wot it means to "have a faith lik dat of a mustard seed" huh, greater faith unlocks greater doors... U ge rit?

plaetton:

What a nonesense.
So you have to believe before god heals you?
In that case I would assume that all who are healthy are so because they believe, and conversely those who are ailing in our hospitals this very moment are ill because they don't believe?
You god must be as silly as those those that believe that he heals.

Let me take you back to the old testament, where god was soooo helpless agains leprosy, that he ordered that they be quarantined from the general population.

Ebola, as well as other diseases kill humans , but also kill god over and over again.

wat an insult! May God forgive u. Where u r worshiping, can't that thing heal Ebola? If nt why are u so naive in ur thoughts?

iwonbaoko: Believe? What is there to believe or not believe. Do you know the actual meaning of that word I doubt it
That is like asking do I believe in English language ,what does that mean?

by 'metaphysics' I mean 'beyond' physical. Phenomena that physics cannot explain or comprehend like some of the bible tales U mentioned.
Do you believe that there are occurrences that goes beyond normal eyes or that science cannot explain?

Whoever put this on the FP in other to mock or question the integrity of these pastors need to be examined!
Those of you atheists or whatever you claim you believe or don't believe can keep ranting and typing scrap for all you care!
BTW, nothing you type will ever change anything about the men of God!
Haters keep hating since days of Cain and Abel.

I have just one advice for you guys spewing poo, go and read the story of Mariam and Moses, Elisha and rude kids calling him a bald man!

Seun needs to do something about whoever mans the religious section.
If you think part of what will make the forum lively and inviting is bashing of men of God, you got it all wrong.
Nairaland just got hacked nobody could correct or get back some lost data, I pray what is more than hacking will not befall ye NAIRALAND!

Quote me, na your headache!
Ban me, I don't care!
Smh!

NAIRALAND SUCKS!

Give your life to Christ friends, Jesus loves you and wants you to be saved from sin and Satan.

like I always say....until a pastor goes to borno or bauchi and preaches on the road constantly, until a pastor goes to sambisa to preach, until a pastor goes to liberia to dine with ebola victims without protection because ebola can't touch him.....then we still have money hungry pastors

Mattin: Whoever put this on the FP in other to mock or question the integrity of these pastors need to be examined!
Those of you atheists or whatever you claim you believe or don't believe can keep ranting and typing scrap for all you care!
BTW, nothing you type will ever change anything about the men of God!
Haters keep hating since days of Cain and Abel.

I have just one advice for you guys spewing poo, go and read the story of Mariam and Moses, Elisha and rude kids calling him a bald man!

Seun needs to do something about whoever mans the religious section.
If you think part of what will make the forum lively and inviting is bashing of men of God, you got it all wrong.
Nairaland just got hacked nobody could correct or get back some lost data, I pray what is more than hacking will not befall ye NAIRALAND!

Quote me, na your headache!
Ban me, I don't care!
Smh!

NAIRALAND SUCKS!

Give your life to Christ friends, Jesus loves you and wants you to be saved from sin and Satan.

isn't it in the bible that on the last days so many false prophets will arise?.......well the false prophets are the ones you keep calling men of God.....open your eyes to the truth

ofsegs:
by 'metaphysics' I mean 'beyond' physical. Phenomena that physics cannot explain or comprehend like the bible tales U mentioned.
Do you believe that there are occurrences that goes beyond normal eyes or that science cannot explain?

20000 years ago man believed that smallpox could be solved by blood sacrifices and other rituals. Since then man hs come a llong way but the fact remains that what we know is very little compared to what we don't that is more evidence of the limits of man and his brain than evidence that there was once a guy called Noah who went into an Ark with two Ostriches and two elephants for a forty day cruise!!

I do not know what you mean by "normal" eyes but there is very little that science can explain compared to what it cannot that much I concede but the solution is not to concoct some ridiculous fiction because of the limits of our knowledge.
Think of it like this; we have Bible tales, we have Quran tales and hundreds of other tales from all over the world what makes any tale a better tale? They are all tales.

tibi joshua, kumuyi, adeboye, ayo, oyedepo are all SCAMAZ

UrbanMystique: ebola Killed god and all religions

So Jehovah is dead? Ah o ma se o...Ebola you are wicked o!!!!!!!

lolaxavier:

Remember say dis trial and tribulation fit reach u one day, I hope u no go talk dis Swahili dat time.

What is this one saying? It's a pity this NL is full of half-baked literates. I can see you didn't even understand the gist of my post. I'm asking the author of the letter to look inwards and change society through himself first. Instead of making grand attacks against pastors over what noone can control.

emmyrichie: Metaphysics is real... but only those who understand the angels and demons in that world can tamper and dance on its empirical threshold.

Grammar..They fit or they no fit cure Ebola,na wetin we want hear..

Religion..fooling men since the beginning of time..

Well said ,.,,, BUT OP YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN THOSE NAMES NA ,,.,,. Without writing those names we definatly know where you are coming from and heading to,.,,,



Abeg o
I am not a worshipper in any of those churches pls o ,,,, b4 person go com chop me RAW.

sweetgala:

Abeg sharap for there. The OP is making sense you are busy typing jargons. Abeg make you monkey well and sit down.

nw i knw u are more stupid than the o.p.what sense has the o.p made hmm having an insight knowledge abt dat post wich i knw u didnt.that post is saying there is no God.

sweetgala:

Abeg sharap for there. The OP is making sense you are busy typing jargons. Abeg make you monkey well and sit down.

now i know you are more stupid than the o.p that wasted his tym nd his data posting rubbish.let me ask you, what points has the o.p given to u eh oda than using indirect way to say the men of God are fake and if hes saying so that is hes trying to say God that ordained them is also fake Guy b4 u insult somebody tink abeg

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