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A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 11:20pm On Oct 01, 2014
The true gospel empties the churches;while the false gospel fills them.
Most Christians are unaware that the gospel Jesus preached is contradicted by Paul. The gospel of Jesus is bittersweet; presenting great challenges to believers.
Paul’s gospel is “sugar and spice and all
things nice;” offering few challenges. Of course, the preferred gospel is the one Paul
preached. It is the commercial gospel, tailor-made for lovers of life. It is enamoured by those who desire salvation but are not inclined to meet its costs.

But don’t buy the lie. Paul’s gospel cannot
save. Jesus is our Lord and Saviour. Gospel imperatives At the centre of Jesus’ gospel is the need for sinners to repent.
Jesus says: “‘I desire mercy and not
sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous,but sinners, to repentance.” (Matthew 9:13). But Paul disagrees. He says: “The gifts and calling of God are without repentance.” (Romans 11:29).
Furthermore,he bases his gospel on sacrifice. Hear him: “Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.” (1 Corinthians 5:7).

The gospel of the kingdom requires that we yearn for the righteousness of God. Jesus says: “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,for they will be filled.” (Matthew 5:6).However, righteousness is not a prerequisite in Paul’s gospel.Instead, he reassures sinners nonsensically that
God justifies the ungodly:“To the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly,his faith is credited as righteousness.” (Romans 4:5) .

In Jesus’ gospel, the righteous are rewarded with eternal life. (Matthew 25:46). Jesus says: “The righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father.” (Matthew 13:43). However,in Paul’s gospel: “There is none righteous, no, not one.” (Romans 3:10). Therefore, Paul says: “(Righteousness) shall be imputed to us who believe in him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead.” (Romans 4:24).

The gospel of a kingdom not of this world is bad news to the rich of this world. Jesus says: “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 19:24). But Paul’s gospel of grace is about our becoming rich in this world: “For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ,that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.” (2 Corinthians 8:9).

Faith with works

Jesus’ gospel requires us to become God’s children by doing God’s works. Jesus says: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.” (Matthew 5:44-45).
“Those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.” (John 5:29).
However, Paul’s gospel is about faith without works. He says: “It is by grace you have been saved, through faith- and this not from yourselves,it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9).


In Jesus’ gospel, we determine our salvation. His cardinal kingdom principle makes salvation entirely our responsibility. Jesus warns: “Whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.” (Matthew 16:25).

He says elsewhere: “With the same measure you use, it will be measured to you.” (Mark 4:24). But in Paul’s gospel, salvation is God’s responsibility; we are predestined to salvation.
Paul’s says: “Those God foreknew he also
predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son… And those he predestined, he also called;those he called, he also justified.” (Romans 8:29-30).

This clearly contradicts Jesus position that: “Many are called but few are chosen.” (Matthew 22:14). With Jesus, we carry our crosses ourselves. Jesus says: “If anyone would come after me,he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.” (Mark 8:34).
However, with Paul, Jesus allegedly carried our crosses for us in that we were crucified with him. Paul says: “I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.” (Galatians 2:20).

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 11:25pm On Oct 01, 2014
Cost of salvation
With Jesus, forgiveness comes as we readily forgive all our offenders. Jesus says: “If you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.” (Matthew 6:14-15).

But with Paul,forgiveness comes without preconditions; it is the grace of God:
“You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away.Then God made you alive with Christ. He forgave all our sins.” (Colossians 2:13).


With Jesus,freedom from sin comes as we follow his word. Jesus says: “If you hold to my teaching,you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:31-32).
But with Paul, Christians are automatically free from sin because we died with Christ: “Our old
self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin- because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.” (Romans 6:6-7).
Paul says: “The gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 6:23).

But according to Jesus, eternal life is not God’s gift at all;it comes at great cost. Jesus says: “Everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.” (Matthew 19:29).

Therefore, Jesus warns us to count the cost before deciding to follow him: “No one can become my disciple unless he first sits down and counts his blessings- and then renounces them all for me.” (Luke 14:33).


Everlasting gospel
Some maintain Paul’s gospel of grace is a post-
resurrection dispensational replacement for Jesus’ gospel of the kingdom. However, Jesus confirms no such replacement. Instead he says: “This gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14).

Jesus does not introduce Paul’s doctrine of blood-atonement on his resurrection. His directive remains that “repentance
and forgiveness of sins” should be preached in his name.” (Luke 24:47).

In Acts,Peter does not associate Jesus’ death with the atonement of sins. (Acts 2:37-43). He says the righteousness of God comes by works. (Acts 10:34-35).

But Paul says Christians automatically become new creatures: “old things are passed
away; behold, all things are become new.” (2 Corinthians 5:17). In effect, Paul’s gospel is false. It merely tests those who would embrace Jesus’ gospel. Jesus’ gospel offers a narrow gate and a difficult way that leads to life; while Paul’s gospel offers a wide gate and a
broad way that leads to destruction. (Matthew 7:13-14).




Accordingly, the true gospel empties the churches; while the false gospel fills them. Christians must reject Paul’s enticing gospel. John warns: “Whoever does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him.” (2 John 1:9-10).


Femi Aribisala
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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by mathmatica: 11:40pm On Oct 01, 2014
It's obvious your understanding of the bible is very limited.Paul's teaching is a reflection of Christ ( Jesus) word to the gentiles. The bible did and would not contradict itself, hence,Christ spoke through Paul to the gentiles. Christians are admonished to show the effect of the word of God in their life(Work) but they are not saved by this work.Salvation is through faith in the sacrifice of Christ on calvary,hence,a Christian is saved by his acceptance of Christ sacrifice and not by doing what he assume is right,for man's righteousness is filth before God.Does that mean that we should continue to sin because we are saved by grace?no.For if we believe in Christ,and are saved by him(grace/faith),we would live according to his will(work).....So my dear,whenever you read your bible,beg God to give you a discerning mind,that you may know the truth and be save by it.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by thorpido(m): 11:51pm On Oct 01, 2014
Why don't you just stick with what you know instead of delving into what you don't understand?
The Op is a muslim and obviously lacks understanding of scriptures.

Jesus said,...' ye err not knowing the scriptures(Matt.22:29)

Why don't you spend more time pursuing the instruction that says you should kill the infidels(Quran3:151)

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Macelliot(m): 11:51pm On Oct 01, 2014
Lanrexlan
Better face ur Quran....
I wonder why Muslims attacks a book(Holy Bible) which has given satanists and atheists night-mare....
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Onlinebizexpert(m): 12:18am On Oct 02, 2014
Sheys na t
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by tbaba1234: 1:40am On Oct 02, 2014
thorpido: Why don't you just stick with what you know instead of delving into what you don't understand?
The Op is a muslim and obviously lacks understanding of scriptures.

Jesus said,...' ye err not knowing the scriptures(Matt.22:29)

Why don't you spend more time pursuing the instruction that says you should kill the infidels(Quran3:151)

The article was not written by the op or even a muslim. There is no need to be defensive. It is a blog post ftom a news paper.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 5:08am On Oct 02, 2014
Macelliot:
Better face ur Quran....
I wonder why Muslims attacks a book(Holy Bible) which has given satanists and atheists night-mare....
Shut up,can't you read? Is Femi Aribisala now a muslim?

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 5:25am On Oct 02, 2014
mathmatica: It's obvious your understanding of the bible is very limited.Paul's teaching is a reflection of Christ ( Jesus) word to the gentiles.
The author is a christian like you that is 'drunk' in Holy spirit.

The bible did and would not contradict itself, hence,Christ spoke through Paul to the gentiles.
Most Bibles have no verse 24 of Romans chapter sixteen. The text skips from verse 23 to verse 25. Some kind of error occurs here.
Those that died in Numbers 25:9 are 24,000; whereas 1 Corinthians lists 23,000 for the same event.

Jesus tells the disciples to take a staff on their journey as recorded in Mark 6:8, but Matthew records Jesus as telling the disciples not to take a staff on that journey (10:9-10).
2 Samuel says that God incited David to take a census (24:1-2); 1 Chronicles says that Satan induced David to take that census (21:1-2).
Read more
www.nairaland.com/1839178/problems-biblical-inerrancy
Written by a christian,he agreed the bible contains error but God wants it that way
Christians are admonished to show the effect of the word of God in their life(Work) but they are not saved by this work.Salvation is through faith in the sacrifice of Christ on calvary,hence,a Christian is saved by his acceptance of Christ sacrifice and not by doing what he assume is right,for man's righteousness is filth before God.Does that mean that we should continue to sin because we are saved by grace?no.For if we believe in Christ,and are saved by him(grace/faith),we would live according to his will(work).....So my dear,whenever you read your bible,beg God to give you a discerning mind,that you may know the truth and be save by it.
This was not preached by Christ,Paul did(Romans 10:9).Jesus said Matthew 12:36-37 -''But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless work have spoken.
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your word you will brother condemned

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 5:27am On Oct 02, 2014
tbaba1234:

The article was not written by the op or even a muslim. There is no need to be defensive. It is a blog post ftom a news paper.
Don't mind him jare,attacking the op and not the topic.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by thorpido(m): 5:29am On Oct 02, 2014
tbaba1234:

The article was not written by the op or even a muslim. There is no need to be defensive. It is a blog post ftom a news paper.
Okay.
The Op should not propagate it if he doesn't intend to promote strife.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by thorpido(m): 6:37am On Oct 02, 2014
lanrexlan: Don't mind him jare,attacking the op and not the topic.
Who posted it here?
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 6:39am On Oct 02, 2014
thorpido: Who posted it here?
Who's the author of what was posted? My words don't even appeared in the op.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by thorpido(m): 6:45am On Oct 02, 2014
lanrexlan: The author is a christian like you that is 'drunk' in Holy spirit.

Read more
www.nairaland.com/1839178/problems-biblical-inerrancy
Written by a christian,he agreed the bible contains error but God wants it that way
This was not preached by Christ,Paul did(Romans 10:9).Jesus said Matthew 12:36-37 -''But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless work have spoken.
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your word you will brother condemned
And the author of what you posted is also this that you have written in this post?
Keep deceiving yourself.Your intentions are clear.

And you choose to make a mockery of God's Spirit(The Holy Spirit)?One day you will give account of it.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by mathmatica: 7:09am On Oct 02, 2014
lanrexlan: The author is a christian like you that is 'drunk' in Holy spirit.

Read more
www.nairaland.com/1839178/problems-biblical-inerrancy
Written by a christian,he agreed the bible contains error but God wants it that way
This was not preached by Christ,Paul did(Romans 10:9).Jesus said Matthew 12:36-37 -''But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless work have spoken.
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your word you will brother condemned
It's wrong to discuss the bible with one who thinks it's a textbook,subject to human interpretation. May the lord make the light of his words shine in your heart.Amen
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 7:33am On Oct 02, 2014
lanrexlan .it will be hard for you guys to understand the deep thing of God,all what you copy and paste are nothing but wrong interprtation,i dont know how to quote post by post, i wul'av clear your thread in no time.

Jesus say i desire mercy not sacrifice dos not mean he advice us to abandon sacrifice,you cant give God sacrifice without showing mercy to your brother,will you offer God sacrifice but in your heart you have gruge with your brother? First settle it and then give offering to God. What paul is saying is difference,it has noting to do with sacrifice,the gift of God is free to mankind, sin cannot hinder the gift of God, the rain and sun are gift of God and sin cannot stop rain or sun so therefore it needed no repentance.


Paul even say "to live is christ to die is gain" paul say again"if christ had not been risen our faith is in vain" there are many wrong interpretation you quote, were did you get the knowlegd that say paul LETTER is gospel?
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Rilwayne001: 7:34am On Oct 02, 2014
"...to the Jew I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law, that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without Law, as without Law (not being without law toward
God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without Law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak, Ibhave become all things to all men , that I might by all means save some."
1Corinthians 9:20-22

it is apparent that Paul was a chameleon who blended with his surroundings whatever they were at the time! Paul clearly taught contradictory messages for the purpose of making everybody happy...

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Rilwayne001: 7:42am On Oct 02, 2014
malvisguy212: [s] lanrexlan .it will be hard for you guys to understand the deep thing of God,all what you copy and paste are nothing but wrong interprtation,i dont know how to quote post by post, i wul'av clear your thread in no time.

Jesus say i desire mercy not sacrifice dos not mean he advice us to abandon sacrifice,you cant give God sacrifice without showing mercy to your brother,will you offer God sacrifice but in your heart you have gruge with your brother? First settle it and then give offering to God. What paul is saying is difference,it has noting to do with sacrifice,the gift of God is free to mankind, sin cannot hinder the gift of God, the rain and sun are gift of God and sin cannot stop rain or sun so therefore it needed no repentance.


Paul even say "to live is christ to die is gain" paul say again"if christ had not been risen our faith is in vain" there are many wrong interpretation you quote, were did you get the knowlegd that say paul LETTER is gospel? [/s]

Proverbs 21:3 New Living Translation
[size=15pt] "The LORD is more pleased when we do what is right and just than when we offer him sacrifices" [/size]

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 7:49am On Oct 02, 2014
Rilwayne001:

Proverbs 21:3 New Living Translation
[size=15pt] "The LORD is more pleased when we do what is right and just than when we offer him sacrifices" [/size]
dos thag mean the Lord forbid sacrifice? Dint you read my post?to obey is better than sacrifice, what dos better 'sound to you? god prefer mercy more than sacrifice. Paul say "if a man love God and hate is brother, he is a lier" you must first settle it with you brother in other for God to accept your offering.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by malvisguy212: 7:53am On Oct 02, 2014
Rilwayne001: "...to the Jew I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law, that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without Law, as without Law (not being without law toward
God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without Law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak, Ibhave become all things to all men , that I might by all means save some."
1Corinthians 9:20-22

it is apparent that Paul was a chameleon who blended with his surroundings whatever they were at the time! Paul clearly taught contradictory messages for the purpose of making everybody happy...
you want to preach to the pagan,you will behave like one of them, humble yourself like them in other for you to get there attension.behave like them did not mean practice ther belief.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Rilwayne001: 8:25am On Oct 02, 2014
malvisguy212: you want to preach to the pagan,you will behave like one of them, humble yourself like them in other for you to get there attension.behave like them did not mean practice ther belief.
malvisguy212: dos thag mean the Lord forbid sacrifice? Dint you read my post?to obey is better than sacrifice, what dos better 'sound to you? god prefer mercy more than sacrifice. Paul say "if a man love God and hate is brother, he is a lier" you must first settle it with you brother in other for God to accept your offering.

I don't have your time mr. man

Why?

Because you know next to nothing undecided

Have a nice day

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Macelliot(m): 9:55am On Oct 02, 2014
lanrexlan: Shut up,can't you read? Is Femi Aribisala now a muslim?
Since Femi is not a Muslim, who told you He is a Christian?
then are you a Christian? Why did you interfere into Christians affairs.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by plaetton: 4:03pm On Oct 02, 2014
thorpido: Why don't you just stick with what you know instead of delving into what you don't understand?
The Op is a muslim and obviously lacks understanding of scriptures.

Jesus said,...' ye err not knowing the scriptures(Matt.22:29)

Why don't you spend more time pursuing the instruction that says you should kill the infidels(Quran3:151)

You just made a fool of yourself by attacking the op without even making an effort to refute any of his points. The reason is simply because you cannot. You are suffering from the typical cognitive dissonance. It is a psychological attack on your feeble mind, so you have to lash out violently at the op. I wonder if you realized just how pathetic your response is. lol undecided

I find it hilarious that when someone reads the bible with common sense, you religiotards lash out that the person lacks a certain unique kind of stupi.di.ty drug, a spiritual drug, to fully understand the bible.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by plaetton: 4:11pm On Oct 02, 2014
malvisguy212: lanrexlan .it will be hard for you guys to understand the deep thing of God,all what you copy and paste are nothing but wrong interprtation,i dont know how to quote post by post, i wul'av clear your thread in no time.


Lazy Coward.
This is your typical , pathetic way of dodging common sense and reason.
I guess you are the only one that understands the bible, huh?

Your fellow christian, Davidylan, who is obviously much more well-rounded than you, is sincere enough to admit that faith is irrational. I respect him for that.

If every christian can be candid enough like him, then I think we might have less contentious debates and arguments here in NL and in real life situations.

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by thorpido(m): 4:28pm On Oct 02, 2014
plaetton:

You just made a fool of yourself by attacking the op without even making an effort to refute any of his points. The reason is simply because you cannot. You are suffering from the typical cognitive dissonance. It is a psychological attack on your feeble mind, so you have to lash out violently at the op. I wonder if you realized just how pathetic your response is. lol undecided

I find it hilarious that when someone reads the bible with common sense, you religiotards lash out that the person lacks a certain unique kind of stupi.di.ty drug, a spiritual drug, to fully understand the bible.
The only retard here is you.You talk so easily about drugs cos you're an addict and you must be high right now.
Drugs can really mess you up.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Rilwayne001: 5:07pm On Oct 02, 2014
plaetton:

You just made a fool of yourself by attacking the op without even making an effort to refute any of his points. The reason is simply because you cannot. You are suffering from the typical cognitive dissonance. It is a psychological attack on your feeble mind, so you have to lash out violently at the op. I wonder if you realized just how pathetic your response is. lol undecided

I find it hilarious that when someone reads the bible with common sense, you religiotards lash out that the person lacks a certain unique kind of stupi.di.ty drug, a spiritual drug, to fully understand the bible.

Same problem am having with these re.tarded peeps.

Like Christopher Hitchens said:
"The worthless idea that someone, an ignorant at that can be sacrificed on my behalf, without my consent, to atone for some made up "sin" which I had no part in committing and for which I was "condemned" without my side of the story before I was born, is utterly repugnant to me".

If you ask them to explain, they will tell you that unless you posses the holy spirit, you will never undersstand.

WTF... undecided

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by Rilwayne001: 5:19pm On Oct 02, 2014
thorpido: The only retard here is you.You talk so easily about drugs cos you're an addict and you must be high right now.
Drugs can really mess you up.

grin grin grin
SMDH

So you can only see drug in his comment?
How about others

LMAO grin grin

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Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by thorpido(m): 5:25pm On Oct 02, 2014
Rilwayne001:

grin grin grin
SMDH

So you can only see drug in his comment?
How about others

LMAO grin grin
You are into drugs too..........and partially blind?
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 9:00pm On Oct 02, 2014
Macelliot:
Since Femi is not a Muslim, who told you He is a Christian?
then are you a Christian? Why did you interfere into Christians affairs.
Shut up if you have nothing to contribute.Can't you read?
Jesus is our Lord and Saviour. Gospel
imperatives At the centre of Jesus’ gospel is the
need for sinners to repent.
Does this signifies he's a muslim?
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 10:43pm On Oct 02, 2014
malvisguy212: lanrexlan .it will be hard for you guys to understand the deep thing of God,all what you copy and paste are nothing but wrong interprtation,i dont know how to quote post by post, i wul'av clear your thread in no time.
Seriously,I don't like replying your posts,you are always spewing trash.Address the issue if you can or remain dumb as usual.

Jesus say i desire mercy not sacrifice dos not mean he advice us to abandon sacrifice,you cant give God sacrifice without showing mercy to your brother,will you offer God sacrifice but in your heart you have gruge with your brother? First settle it and then give offering to God. What paul is saying is difference,it has noting to do with sacrifice,the gift of God is free to mankind, sin cannot hinder the gift of God, the rain and sun are gift of God and sin cannot stop rain or sun so therefore it needed no repentance.
God doesn't require your sacrifice.Read again
Hosea 6:6 -For I desire mercy, not sacrifice and acknowledgment rather than burnt offerings.



Paul even say "to live is christ to die is gain" paul say again"if christ had not been risen our faith is in vain" there are many wrong interpretation you quote, were did you get the knowlegd that say paul LETTER is gospel?
2 Timothy 2:8 -Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my gospel..Sorry,your pastor didn't quote that to you eh yah.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by lanrexlan(m): 10:46pm On Oct 02, 2014
thorpido: And the author of what you posted is also this that you have written in this post?
Keep deceiving yourself.Your intentions are clear.

And you choose to make a mockery of God's Spirit(The Holy Spirit)?One day you will give account of it.
Stop lamenting if you have nothing to say concerning what your brother in Christ wrote.
Kindly unfollow the thread mister.
Re: A Tale Of Two Contradictory Gospels. by thorpido(m): 11:07pm On Oct 02, 2014
lanrexlan: Stop lamenting if you have nothing to say concerning what your brother in Christ wrote.
Kindly unfollow the thread mister.
You start a thread and it goes boom in your face and you're trying much to save it.
Keep doing the work of your master.

*Unfollowing as you said

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