nobilis:
I don't think Christians really read the bible. Because if they really do, they will understand the shallowness of religion as a whole. The Pentateuch alone will lay bare everything you need to know about the shallowness of religion. I wonder why people don't see it.

asalimpo:


many christians read the bible cover to cover every year and havnt reached this conlussion.

nobilis:


I doubt that, Asalimpo. Just read the first chapter of Genesis. The first chapter alone. Try to read it critically. Let's start from there.

havilla:
Why are atheist always bitter, and filled with anger? If you don't believe in God why always talk about Him? You don't worship God but u worship the white man, how are u sure all they say about evolution or whatever is true?

havilla:
Why are atheist always bitter, and filled with anger? If you don't believe in God why always talk about Him? You don't worship God but u worship the white man, how are u sure all they say about evolution or whatever is true?

havilla:
Why are atheist always bitter, and filled with anger? If you don't believe in God why always talk about Him? You don't worship God but u worship the white man, how are u sure all they say about evolution or whatever is true?

Dapo777:


It's all in the Bible.
What is the foundation of the world in Isaiah 24:18,john 17:24,psalm 104:5,Isaiah 48:13,psalm 18:15? And other numerous verses Where it was mentioned.

What is the pillars of the earth in 1samuel 2:5,job 9:6

How did Satan show Jesus all the kingdom of the Iworld even at the highest mountain? IBecause the earth is flat?


How did God spread out the earth in psalm 136:6,Isaiah 44:24? The last time I checked It's only something flat that can be spread,u can spread out pan cake,But u can't spread out meat balls.

Where are the two ends of the earth in deut 28:64,33:17,job28:24? Isaiah 41:9?

Where are the corners of the earth in job 37:3?

Why is Yahweh sky hard as molten mirror in job 37:18?

Why is the sun moving in psalm 19:4-6

How come stars can fall from the sky? Wow the sky is hard and the stars are simply hanging! Wonderful!!!!!! Matthew 24:29,mark 13:25,revelations 6:13

Read all those verses to confirm all that have said,Yahweh the acclaimed Creator of heaven and earth has no idea of earth movement, shape,interaction, no idea about the sky,no idea about the sun stability,Wow!!!! He Really is the Creator,don't you think?

theunusualmoon:

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I must first start by apologising for replying quite late.We exchanged thoughts till about 11:30pm last night and I still needed to be at work for 7:30 am today.Just got home now ergo I can reply.

I went through.the.bibilical quotes you posted but it seems as if you have misinterpreted many of them, e.g If I am an employer and I am in dire need of a certain geek who for some reason is not available in Nigeria, I can say to my HR dept: "Get me that guru.I don't mind even if you have to travel to the ends of the earth to get him".........This does not mean I believe the earth is cornered or flat etc like you have stated.
Hope you understand?

kekakuz:
if you have questions
direct them to seasoned men of God like oyakilome and lets see who will try to escape

Missonas:


God does not need the christians to prove He is God.Maybe you should try being subtle and less challenging you know like someone who really wants to know.We are humans and don't have all the answers,no one does.

Dapo777:


So that was the only thing u saw among the 9 proves above?

theunusualmoon:

No bro that's not the only one.Infact they all sound a bit similar to me and that was why I decided to sight just one example.
Ofcourse I could I could go on and say a man like yourself is one of the strongest "pillars" in your family. Or I could say there's no "pillar" greater than the head of the family even the ones that hold the greatest buildings and bridges.
You will still interprete me correctly so I beg you to understand the depth of these words and not just their superficial meanings.

Dapo777:


What about the hard sky with stars hanging from it? How about seeing all the kingdoms of the world from a mountain? What deep meanings do those words have?

Weah96:

The point is, if what you say is true, then we atheists were designed by God himself to be skeptical. Am I missing something?
Was this God unable to anticipate future events?

Missonas:


When you say designed you make it sound like God made us without a mind of our own.

Weah96:

That is NOT what I'm saying. I'm saying that he is the designer of our MINDS. Where did our minds come from if it wasn't also designed like the rest of everything?
He's an omniscient MIND designer.
My decision to be an atheist is, by principle, a product of my designed mind.
Does that make sense to you?

Missonas:

Whatever happpened to each and every individual along the way and how they handled it is what I can't explain.

Will you tone it down a little?pls?

Weah96:

Common sense cannot be toned down.
God is omniscient. He designs human minds. What are you telling me?

theunusualmoon:

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Talking about your qoute about the sky in the book of Job that was Elihu speaking and he was just trying to paint a picture of how great GOD is for Job to see.You yourself have probably said to your woman before :" I'd love you till the end of time" but that doesn't mean you can see the future.At that moment you were only trying to paint a mental picture for her to see how much you love her.
And to the verse you quoted in Matthew......That was just a way of saying on that day there will be no stars in the sky,it doesn't necessarily mean that the writer was saying stars were being hung up in the air.

Missonas:

Oh u the one with common sense and I'm not?yeah right knock yourself out bro.Lemme ask u dis where u born an atheist?

You prolly did not get the part where I said He is the INITIAL designer.Meaning He made you His but not without the freewill to choose

Dapo777:

God that gave u freewill,did he not see the end result of such freewill with his omniscience?
Do u understand now?

Dapo777:


Ok But u ignored one part. How did the devil show Jesus all the kingdoms of the world from the highest top of the mountain. From the shape of the earth Which I know,no matter how tall a mountain could be,it is not possible to see all the kingdoms of the world unless the earth was flat.........If everything is symbolic why does everything indicate that the world is flat? Why such improbable coincidence? I get ur point that They might be used symbolically, But What I don't understand is why every prove is indicating the world is flat?

Missonas:

Cos he saw it.Salvation is earned not given freely.Even an atheist knows good thgs dnt come easyYou say end result like the world is over.All this is way bigger than you and I,drop it!

Dapo777:

It's bigger than ur comprehension to grasp,not mine. So If It's too difficult for u to understand, u can drop it,I heard too much thinking can cause brain tumour.
I repeat,If God saw What freewill would cause(that is the evil that we all see around) and still goes ahead to give us freewill,then he is to blame because he already knows But still went ahead,So It's his fault.

theunusualmoon:

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8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of
them;9 And saith unto him, All these things will
I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

I am always proud of this part when I read it because it reminds me that if the devil was bold enough to confront Jesus with such temptations then he'll most certainly tempt anyone with anything he considers attractive and I should brace myself to avoid falling but unlike me when you read it what you see is weaknesses in the scripture.

Like i said earlier it all depends on what you chose to see and believe.

Missonas:

Someone just has to take the fall.Typical.Ok u seem to have all the answers.Dropped!

Dapo777:


It's bigger than ur comprehension to grasp,not mine. So If It's too difficult for u to understand, u can drop it,I heard too much thinking can cause brain tumour.
I repeat,If God saw What freewill would cause(that is the evil that we all see around) and still goes ahead to give us freewill,then he is to blame because he already knows But still went ahead,So It's his fault.

Dapo777:

Wow another way They evade,scare tactics.
They try to make u scared,So that u give in to ur fears and stop finding things out.