Dan1cole:


Yes bro, there is something like born-again in Christianity. Which bible have you been reading? See John 3:3 ...

paxonel:


when you read your bible consider that there is time for everything, a time before the death of Christ.(BC) where there was born again , a time after the death of Christ (AD ) born again siezed to exist.
born again simply means an event of disciples following Christ. those disciples who followed christ were born again, but non of them were Christians.
to be a Christian is not the same thing as being born again, it is far better to be a Christian than to be a born again
Christianity started in the book of act (the day of pentecost ),after the event of born again and crucifixion
i know it takes thinking to understand this thing. but it is a reality whether we can detect it or not.
behold, i have left something for us to think over and to get rid of every contradiction of time in our biblical idea so that our truth can be explained to unbelievers

lalasticlala:
With the way some self acclaimed born again Christians behave sometime, one may not easily differentiate between them and those that are not born again.

So many Christians have abused this born again thing so much. Almost everybody claims to be born again when asked. Some even use their mouth to tell you that they are born again.

I once trusted an associate pastor, a born again, before and helped him by lending him some money. He promised to pay within a month or so. I did that when the shop he & his wife manage got burnt. But he couldn't pay as he promised. It lingered up to 2 years. Each time I asked for my money, he would make promises which he never fulfilled. At a time, I started collecting things from his shop and he was subtracting the money, and he also paid in stipends until I got my money back without using it for tangible thing. Meanwhile, he had grown up children that are doing fine. Of course they use to send him money.

This is just one out of the several experiences I have had with some 'born again' Christians.

I have equally encountered two born again Christians that I believe were real. Their characters spoke for them.

So are you a born again Christian?

Can you boldly tell us that you are a born again Christian?

Does your life style portray you as a true born again Christan?

What Qualities should born again Christians exhibit?

So many questions that need answers.

NairaMode:
Someone who bears the fruits of the Holy Spirit.
Love, Care, Honesty, Truth, Joy, Giving, Gentle and someone whose way of life has been attested by the people to be of integrity etc.
More importantly he must live like Christ, he must be willing to speak about him anywhere and he must speak in tongues.

Those are the things that associate you with the Holy Spirit and as a true born again Christian.
Those are the things we can measure because "we" cannot see people's hearts.
The rest is left to God to judge.

yungdan192:

Its not must for A Child Of GOD to speak in tongues my friend,its one of the many gifts of the HOLY SPIRIT

Dan1cole:


Bros, leave all this your theologies. To be honest, you made no-sense atall. To be born again is to be born of the Spirit and of Water. A Christian is simply a follower and a believer of Christ. You cannot say you believe and follow Christ when you have not confessed and accepted Him to be reborn of the Spirit and be baptized. You are not a Christian if you are not born again.

paxonel:

when a study is difficult to understand such that it appear not to make sense, it does not mean that it does not make to other people who understand it.
is it not the same theology that people studied centuries ago to come out with this born again doctrine that is putting current day Christians in confusion and boasting in Christianity?
boasting is sin, for you to say you are born again you are trying to establish that you are righteous than anybody in Christianity who cannot meet up to your stand,meanwhile you don't have any standard, you are just a bloody sinner too in your secret. that is boasting and self illusion
it's obvious that those theologians who came up with this born again teaching centuries ago were truly not educated people because they didn't put a lot of things into consideration.
look at the big contradiction they caused us.
Jesus met Nicodemus in the book of john 3 and told him you must be born again Christian (if that is what Jesus truly meant by born again like you said )
Christianity started in the book of act, the Pentecost day which was ahead of the day Jesus met Nicodemus.
is that not a big contradiction?
can't you think?
don't you have brain?
i believe God gave us brain to think.
just know that even atheists and non Christians are laughing at this

Dan1cole:


Dude, you are just arguing rubbish. Jesus told him to be born again. At that time, all he had to do was to believe in Jesus and get baptized with water because Jesus was yet to send the Holy Spirit which would reborn him of the spirit. Remember Jesus had to be baptized with water also before God officially recognized Him and said He was pleased with Him before His ministry started.
You probably have read too much theological books and they have corrupted your mind. Read the bible and ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand. You cannot say you are a Christian if you are not born again. And you cannot enter Heaven if you are not born again. Think Man, Think... God Help You Understand.

paxonel:

not just Nicodemus believe and get. baptized with water only, but he must also abandon all that he had or sell them and give the money to the poor and join the multitude of disciples to follow Jesus to Jerusalem. that was the only way he could see the kingdom of God.
the kingdom of God was to be established at Jerusalem at crucifixion
so, born again simply means, disciples abandoning all that they had to follow Christ to Jerusalem where the kingdom of God is to be revealed (that is why revelation described the kingdom of God as the new Jerusalem.revelation 21:2 ).Peter told Jesus in
Matthew 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and FOLLOW THEE ; what shall we have therefore?
Jesus also says in
Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have FOLLOWED ME, (at the generation when he was yet on earth before he was crucified), in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory(the generation after the crucifixion ), ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel..
this is the generation we belong to, there was change of generation at crucifixion.
so it was all about following Christ in those days, that is was what born again meant
i bring that parable again in
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
the wind there represent the multitude of disciples who followed Jesus, Nicodemus heard about them, he saw the crowd coming as they passes towards Jerusalem,he didn't know where they were coming from and there they were going to,but it was expected that he should join them and follow , that was what Jesus wanted.
today,in this present generation, we believe that Christ has died, therefore the kingdom of God has been established on earth. (if you take note, i was using "was", because all those things were pass tense )
today,we in chriatianity are all part of that kingdom,we are already sitting on 12 thrones so long we believe, we don't need to follow again as the disciples did (ofcourse Christ has ascended, we don't see him phycally again to follow ), we don't need born again again,Judas Iscariot was born again, he believed in that generation, he was baptized, but he missed the kingdom.
we are better than Judas Iscariot
the kingdom of God(Christianity) is far better than born again
even the least person in christianity today is better than john the Baptist(Matthew 11:11)
john the Baptist was born again, it is not everybody who believe that followed Christ outrightly, so long you believe in christ that generation you were born again. but you were not up to a state to be called a christian because christ has not yet died
but in this generation,alll we need to do is believe only

christemmbassey:
you are wrong, Judas was not a fake born again, bc it was not possible to be born again in his life time.

calaharry:

...then you are not a true follower of Christ. Are you disputing Christ decision to choose and train only twelve disciplines before His own who pretended to be in Christ betrayed Him.
Read your Bible well my friend,b4 commenting because Bibe cannot ge wrong
Take or leave it whatever has a original is followed fakers.

christemmbassey:
you don't still get it? Bros Judas was NOT . Born-again, none of d disciples were bc it was not possible to be born again b4 d calvary event.

Dan1cole:


Yes! I understand a point you made, we only need to believe in Jesus and be saved. Baptism is kinda optional, to show that you've really repented of your sins and accepted Christ; its not a must.
But dude, you used Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus and committed sucide to cite an example. That not cool atall; it doesn't make sense. How can such a person make Heaven ? *noOffence* But, I wanna ask you a question, I know you believe Christ, His death and resurrection right? But my question is have you confessed and accepted Him as your Lord and personal savior with your mouth?
Its a yes or no question. *we are not quarelling*

Dan1cole:


Yes! I understand a point you made, we only need to believe in Jesus and be saved. Baptism is kinda optional, to show that you've really repented of your sins and accepted Christ; its not a must.
But dude, you used Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus and committed sucide to cite an example. That not cool atall; it doesn't make sense. How can such a person make Heaven ? *noOffence* But, I wanna ask you a question, I know you believe Christ, His death and resurrection right? But my question is have you confessed and accepted Him as your Lord and personal savior with your mouth?
Its a yes or no question. *we are not quarelling*

paxonel:


i like the question, Paul says in
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
but before then he said in
Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel (the Jews ) is, that they might be saved.
you know, the Jews had their religion known as Judaism (the jewish faith with the old covenant in the old testament through Abraham their father ),but Christ came and established his religion at crucifixion known as Christianity(the Christian faith with the new covenant in the new testament )
All the intention of Paul preaching was to convert the Jews who were adherents of Judaism to join Christianity which was a new religion at that time.
so, to confess the lord Jesus simply means to be convinced that Christianity is the way.
assuming i was practicing Judaism at that time Paul was preaching and a Paul comes to preach that Jesus is the Messiah, the moment i begin to see reasons with him and eventually get convinced that he is saying the truth, at that point i have been converted into Christianity deep inside me (i may not even say it out, but i will tell myself deep inside me that he is saying the truth)
at that point, i have confessed Christ, at that point, i am saved. i have joined Christianity.
Romans 1:17 says For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
from faith to faith there simply means, from Judaism to Christianity in the context Paul's understanding.
therefore, we are justified by our faith Christianity. that also implies that if you were born into a Christian home (and not Islamic home or the home of any other religion ) you are saved automatically.
Romans 10:10 says For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
a believer is anybody in Christianity
an unbeliever is anybody outside Christianity, people of other religion.
because they do not believe in Christ. it's as simple as that.
to answer your question, if i have
confessed and accepted Him as my Lord
and personal savior with my mouth? the answer is YES.
everybody who were born and brought up a christian are saved automatically. Paul says
Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ(die as a Christian ), we believe that we shall also live with him(live again as a Christian )
eternal life is real
we shall resurrect again.
that one is another matter.
but, what i am telling you now is, i am saved

Dan1cole:


So you are implying that Jesus didn't know what He was talking about shey? Why would He tell the guy to be born again if it wasn't possible? *Think Man, Think*

christemmbassey:
ok, i give up. Stay blessed.

Dan1cole:


Thank you for answering my question. That means you are born again. *End of Argument* You agree that you cannot be a christian without accepting and confessing Christ with your mouth to be born again and saved!
And also, you are born into a Christian family doesn't mean you are saved or in Christ.

paxonel:

a word is enough for the wise.. lol

lalasticlala:
■ So are you a born again Christian?
■ Can you boldly tell us that you are a born again Christian?
■ Does your life style portray you as a true born again Christan?
■ What Qualities should born again Christians exhibit? So many questions that need answers.

■ hmmmm...eleyi' gidi gaan o I don't think I can satisfactorily explain the concept of 'born-again'

I just wanna live my life void of blemish, I know I'm human, I would definitely go outta turn consciously/unconsciously.
I am not aiming @perfection either, but I wanna live that life worth emulating.
-that life da: when played back for me...amma smile and know I lived the life...the good life...

finofaya:
First we had Christians, then we found born again Christians, and now true born again Christians have been added.

Anyway, since some people will behave well whether they are Christians or not, meaning good behaviour is not tied to any label, we can only identify a true born again Christian when s/he tells us that s/he is one.

herald9:
■ Who is a born again? A person who's decided to leave the things of the world and surrender his life to Christ Yes we have so many born-agains but the truth is... Being a bornagain will not automatically undo our human characteristics We'll all strive for that perfectness portrayed by Jesus in the Bible but will always find sin staring at us... In summary... no one is a born again We are all humans! #ReligiousMe

Vivly:
True born again Christians? Do we have fake born again Christians?