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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by lyvin: 2:01pm On Nov 02, 2014

jdilight:

I didn't cause anyone. When I say shall not prosper, I mean it. Their scheme to bring down the church of God will never see the light of the day. This prayer was not directed to anyone in particular, but to everyone. If you think my prayer is unchrist-like, what do you make of Christ prayer, "the church of God shall move forward and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it?"

Look around you and tell me ur better than all those who do not pay tithe. Do this sincerely u will realise that ur being delusional.

Someone pointed out here that Catholic dogma/canon law does not emphasis tithe yet they were able to bring gospel here even building skols, hospitals etc. That's shows dt there are other ways d church can be sustained aside tithe but the greed of this modern crooks makes them preach these compulsory fraud to satisfy their quest for quick money.

B/w how much tithe does Dangote pay
Yeye dey smell

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Hanibal(m): 2:02pm On Nov 02, 2014

jdilight:

I don't think I told you anywhere in my post to tithe like Abraham. My bringing Abraham here is to show that tithe existed before the law.

I want to correct a misconception. From your post, you point to the fact that tithe are given to pastors. But that is not true. Even in malachi 3 where many draw the idea of tithe. God said the tithe was His even though it was meant to keep food in the house of God. Now is the tither greater than God.

I don't tithe because Abraham did, neither do I urge people to tithe because Abraham tithed. I tithe so that there will be food in the house of God and that the gospel of Christ will spread to all. It is my love for God that make me tithe. I love God more than money.

If tithing was wrong, why did God reenacted it in lev 27 according to you?

If the tithe changed from war spoil to agricultural goods while can't it can to money now taking into consideration what made it change. Now did Jacob promise to tithe to God war spoil or agricultural goods?

What is the reason for tithe?

Op.. why do U kip quoting leviticus and d old convenant? can U try to find a new convenant back up for tithing? maybe in d gospels ... letters of Paul or Acts of the apostles... my humble opinion :if xtians in d days of d apostles paid tithes it would ave been mentioned somwia in d book of acts or by paul. The emphasis in d new testament is on *giving* that is d window to God's blessing in d new convenant. Im pushing these layman thoughts because i do not want to delve into theology. ave u ever thought abt why d new testament is silent on tithes?

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Lantosed: 2:22pm On Nov 02, 2014

I don't care about what you say about tithe. The payment of tithe to pastors is not scriptural.pls liberate yourselves from this cheap mental slavery all in the name of receiving financial blessings. WTH!!!!

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by emmygzy(m): 2:29pm On Nov 02, 2014

scedescede:
Please roomates if the issue of tithing was not fully explained we should just go to the last book of the old testiment which is Malachi chapter 3 verse 8 to 12,as a christian what will you believe, is it what somebody said or explained wrongly or the WORD of God which God himself spoke himself through the word of His prophet and servant, Jesus said, I came not to change the law but to fulfil what was written in the law. If you say tithing is for the old testiment why is it in the Bible that God said I am the beignning and the end. Please the tithe is not an old school for the old school but also for this generation and unto the end, just obey God's word and it most be well with you

first of all, was God talking to us? It was when the isrealites abandoned the laws of moses, that was when God sent prophet malachi to them just remind them of some of those laws. Read it from chapter one to the last chapter. The point is among all those laws that prophet malachi mentioned, how come its only tithe that pastors use to read, and besides, he was talking to the isrealites. Another issue is that, when you read book of Leviticus and Deuteronomy, you will see several laws that God gave to the israelites through moses that we christians dont obey. Tithe is also part of this law, how come among all those so many laws, its only tithe that pastors say we should obey and they tell us to ignore others, that jesus has cancelled them. When jesus came, he didnt collect tithe, and he never asked the people that preached for to pay tithe. Likewise the Disciples, the started the early church in the book of acts and never mention anything about tithe. These are the people that started christianity. Its all these pentecostal pastors that modified christianity.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by emmygzy(m): 2:29pm On Nov 02, 2014

A rich man came to Jesus and asked Jesus christ, what can i do to enter the kingdom of God. Jesus asked him if he obeyed all the ten commandments, and he said yes. Jesus now told him to sell all his belonging and give the money to the poor and he will have treasures in heaven. Jesus did not say sell all your belonging and bring the money to me, or pay me the tithe, or pay the tithe to someone else. He said he should give everything to the poor.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by duni04(m): 2:35pm On Nov 02, 2014

Liability:
most of my money is with bishop oyedepo.

Please how do i collect it back, because i realised he is amassing wealth for himself and his childrem.

Help!

Buhaahahahaaha! grin

Write a petition to the EFCC grin

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by TonYzeallY(m): 2:47pm On Nov 02, 2014

All this argument,how much is tithe? One out of ten..nawa o, the commandment is still writen in d bible...i pay and i see practical rewards.

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Babs2040: 2:48pm On Nov 02, 2014

I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN D PRINCIPLES OF TITHING. PRESENTLY CHRIST RECEIVES OUR TIHES IN HEAVEN AS WE PAY IT HERE INTO D HANDS OF OUR PST. HEB 7vs8.

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by christemmbassey(m): 3:00pm On Nov 02, 2014

jdilight:
CAN YOUR 10% OF YOUR INCREASE MAKE YOU POOR?

The simple minded don't ask questions, they swallow everything. And when they do ask, they ask the wrong question and are enslaved the more.

Can 10% of your increase make you poor?

I made a profit of 1000 naira, will giving God or my pastor 100 naira make me poor? What 900 naira can't do for me, will 100 naira do it for me? No, I made a profit of 10,000,000 naira. Will giving God 1,000,000 and taking 9,000,000 make me poor?

How do we prove our sincerity in following God if we find parting with 10% of our increase a burden?

What is 10% of our increase that we cannot give to God. No, lets assume there is not reward for tithing. Ok we will prefer spending 30% of our earning in drinking and partying than giving God 10% of our increase.

I gave mine first salary to the church I worship though it was not mine church and from that day mine relationship with God entered the next level. When I gave this money, there was no means of transporting myself to work. But the faithfulness of God provided for me and I have long passed that level.

Infact after this giving, God lead me to a scripture where told Moses that no one should partake of the covenant of the passover who has not partaken of the covenant of circumcision.

who is this new thief?

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Liekiller(f): 3:01pm On Nov 02, 2014

Babs2040:
I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN D PRINCIPLES OF TITHING. PRESENTLY CHRIST RECEIVES OUR TIHES IN HEAVEN AS WE PAY IT HERE INTO D HANDS OF OUR PST. HEB 7vs8.

uhm, whaaaat? The image you have of Christ is truly shocking. You see him like one of our polithieves and scam pastors amassing wealth for their selfish purposes in heaven!!!? shocked

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by tommylee(m): 3:01pm On Nov 02, 2014

the truth bout tithing

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Nobody: 3:07pm On Nov 02, 2014

In the three years of Jesus earthly ministry, not once did he ask us to pay tithe, he only said "give, and it shall be given unto you" pastors in their greed brainwash and enforce tithe on the congregants, if Jesus had commanded once, believe me we would not be having this arguments today, but these pastors twist everything, the bible says clearly women should cover their head while praying but our pastors say "no need" yet they dig up the old testament to preach tithe.
God is watching in 3HD.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by milliondollas(m): 3:14pm On Nov 02, 2014

THE LAW TITHE WAS ALWAYS EATEN (LEV. 27:30-33) Leviticus 27:30-33 And all the tithe of the land, whether of
the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S:
it is holy unto the LORD. And if a man will at all redeem
ought of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth part
thereof. And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock,
even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD. He shall not search whether it be good
or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all,
then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall
not be redeemed. In the above passage, Moses was given instructions by
Almighty God to relay to the children of Israel. That
instruction was that they were to tithe. What they were to
tithe were products of agricultural nature: a) The children of Israel were to tithe the seed of the land;
i.e., garden produce such as corn, wheat, mint, cumin, dill,
anise, etc.. Anything grown in the garden was tithable. b) The children of Israel were to tithe the fruit of the trees;
i.e., pomegranates, figs, dates, apples, olives, etc.. c) The farmer was allowed to buy back his tithe of crops if he
had need of it. If he chose to buy back the tithe, the Levite
would assess the value of the tithe and then sell the tithe
back to the farmer at a cost twenty percent above the
assessed value of the tithe. d) From their flocks and herds, the children of Israel were to
tithe every tenth animal that passed under the rod; i.e., the
herder would count the animals as they passed under his
counting rod. Every tenth animal was to be tithed. e) The livestock tithe could not be bought back. God
demanded that tenth animal and gave no provender for the
farmer retaining the animal as his own. If the farmer
decided a different animal was to be given as tithe than the
tenth one, then both the animal offered and the tenth
animal were to be given to the Levite. The tithe remained agricultural from 1410 B.C., when Moses
was given the commandments for the children of Israel up
until 70 A.D., when the Temple was destroyed in Israel and
the Levites no longer had the duties they previously had. There is not one instance of money being tithed in those
1480 years.
FOOD OR MONEY? EVERY INSTANCE OF TITHING EXCEPT ABRAM’S IN THE BIBLE WAS
OF FOOD (DEUT. 12:17; 14:22-29; 26:12; MAL 3:7-11 Deuteronomy 12:17 Thou mayest not eat within thy gates
the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the
firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows
which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave
offering of thine hand:
Deuteronomy 14:22-29 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And
thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which
he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy
corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy
herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the
LORD thy God always. And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far
from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his
name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee: Then
shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in
thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy
God shall choose: And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or
for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul
desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God,
and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, And the
Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him;
for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine
increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance
with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the
widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat
and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.
Deuteronomy 26:12 When thou hast made an end of tithing
all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the
year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the
stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat
within thy gates, and be filled; The above passages further reveal the content of the tithes
under the Mosaic/Levitic Law. Again, tithes were food, and
nothing more. There is not one iota of Scripture that states
that God required tithes of anything other than agricultural
products. Tithes, under the Law, were always eaten by someone;
whether by the Levite, the tither and his family, or by the
less fortunate in Israel.

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by daniwealth(m): 3:56pm On Nov 02, 2014

PastorKun:

Stop deceiving people here, God does not need your tithe and God can grow his church without your likes twisting his word to extort money from believers.

My dear,If you dont know,what to say,why not keep quiet read and ignore the post...okay,from where will the money to finance the church come from is not from tithe and offering...
try to read your bible or better think well.

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by christemmbassey(m): 4:00pm On Nov 02, 2014

Aringon:

Any christian that has benefitted immensely from God for paying his or her tithe will continue to pay tithe. Those that say the Pastors are stealing from christians shouls stay clear of paying it.
U r hanging on to the grace of God? Bible says " shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound?"
Tithe is use for the expansion of the work of God , paying salaries of Pastors, drummers,church administrators etc
Nobody is forcing u to pay tithe biko, when u pay ur tithe n turn around to seek what the money has been used for, my friend you won't benefit from that

you are lieing, tithes is not used for salaries, i played piano for churches for many yrs, i never collected 10naira, offerings(collections) at every church meetings is more than enough to pay pastors salaries asuming they are too lazy to work.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by lahit14(m): 4:04pm On Nov 02, 2014

jdilight:

I don't think I told you anywhere in my post to tithe like Abraham. My bringing Abraham here is to show that tithe existed before the law.

I want to correct a misconception. From your post, you point to the fact that tithe are given to pastors. But that is not true. Even in malachi 3 where many draw the idea of tithe. God said the tithe was His even though it was meant to keep food in the house of God. Now is the tither greater than God.

I don't tithe because Abraham did, neither do I urge people to tithe because Abraham tithed. I tithe so that there will be food in the house of God and that the gospel of Christ will spread to all. It is my love for God that make me tithe. I love God more than money.

If tithing was wrong, why did God reenacted it in lev 27 according to you?

If the tithe changed from war spoil to agricultural goods while can't it can to money now taking into consideration what made it change. Now did Jacob promise to tithe to God war spoil or agricultural goods?

What is the reason for tithe?

First of thr are basically 3kinds of tithe mentiond in the holybook
Tithe 1
The tithe devoted to the pristly tribe (the levi), nb: if the is the kind of tithe we'r giving today, tak note the bible emphasizd oftn that this priestly tribe hav no possessions, no land, no school, no companies, no jets lev 27 frm vs 30
Tithe 2
Deut 14 v 28
This type u bring aftr 3year, bring all the tithe of that years produce so dat the levites who hav no inheritanc of ther own (no multiple private schools, no multi million naira jets, no acr's of lands and mansions) I surpose dats wht inheritnc means, I could be wrong. wondr Y we don't practic dis one
Tithe 3
This one is more like a festival tithe
Then to the place the LORD your God will choose as a dwelling for his Name-- there you are to bring everything I command you: your burnt offerings and sacrifices, your tithes and special gifts, and all the choice possessions you have vowed to the LORD.
12 And there rejoice before the LORD your God, you, your sons and daughters, your menservants and maidservants, and the Levites from your towns, who have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
It is only to be eaten at a place specified by the lord.

Bottomline I don't tink tithing is by force, u can give out of the williness of ur heart not becos u will be caused if u don't. But for naija here they use malachi 3:10 to manipulate us. It is well

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by daniwealth(m): 4:04pm On Nov 02, 2014

plaetton:

If tithe is not a bribe, then what is it, since it is obligatory?
Is it tribute?
Is it slave tax?
Is it a spiritual shakedown, considering that it comes with a threat of a devourer as the enforcer, similar to a mafia extortion racket?

If tithing for important in life or in the spiritual, would Jesus, supposed son god and saviour of mankind, not have emphasized it in his many teachings?
Jesus emphasized kindness, love, charity, sharing with the poor, caring for the sick, not collecting from the very same people you should be giving to.
I can see why charlatans like the op would ignore the teachings of Jesus, usherrer of the new covenant, to focus his greedy and avaricious eyes on Abraham's spoils of war as a basis to live fat on the avails of other.

What a shame.

My dear,Tithing is not bribe is a scriptural principle,is True Jesus never talked about Tithe,but we are made to understand that we are seed and descendants of Abraham,Abraham was the first to pay tithe and that was the secret of the wealth and Riches of Abraham,so we need to follow in that pattern to enjoy the same blessings of Abraham.is stingyness that makes some people speak against tithe,giving 10% of my Increase and keeping 90% for myself,wont make me Poor.those tithe are used to finnance and Funds the Church.

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by christemmbassey(m): 4:13pm On Nov 02, 2014

seagullbabz:
In as much as I do not like talking about religion, I will just have to chip in. Like I always tell people, go with your heart, and your belief... if you do not believe in tithes, then do not pay, I believe no one can be forced to do what they don't want to do... I will just advise against blasphemies and running of mouths anyhow. I believe whatever it is you put your faith in will work for you. I tithe, and ever since I started, a lot of things have worked for me, that's not to say there won't be challenges, or that everything will always be fine. If you believe giving a tenth of your possession to the needy is what works for you, please go ahead. I am a giver as well. I do not concern myself with which pastor uses a private jet or a private space ship. I am sure not paying my tithe would not make them go broke. What I focus on is me, I want to be rich, and I am not concerned with how someone else makes his riches....i have seen people who place their beliefs in works of arts or sculptures, and they say it has worked for them. religion is a place where anything shouldn't be forced on anyone.... just do what you think is best for you and works for you. whatever you put your faith in, will surely work for you.

i know it all boil down to greed, d quest to acquire t whole world, what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world....

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by plaetton: 4:14pm On Nov 02, 2014

daniwealth:

My dear,Tithing is not bribe is a scriptural principle,is True Jesus never talked about Tithe,but we are made to understand that we are seed and descendants of Abraham,Abraham was the first to pay tithe and that was the secret of the wealth and Riches of Abraham,so we need to follow in that pattern to enjoy the same blessings of Abraham.is stingyness that makes some people speak against tithe,giving 10% of my Increase and keeping 90% for myself,wont make me Poor.those tithe are used to finnance and Funds the Church.

Shut up slowpoke.
You are an African.
I don't have time to exchange words with any mental slave, black African that calls himself seed of Abraham.
Such self -deprecation is nauseating as well as pitiful.
Tu tu tu Tufiakwa.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by daniwealth(m): 4:19pm On Nov 02, 2014

lyvin:

Look around you and tell me ur better than all those who do not pay tithe. Do this sincerely u will realise that ur being delusional.

Someone pointed out here that Catholic dogma/canon law does not emphasis tithe yet they were able to bring gospel here even building skols, hospitals etc. That's shows dt there are other ways d church can be sustained aside tithe but the greed of this modern crooks makes them preach these compulsory fraud to satisfy their quest for quick money.

B/w how much tithe does Dangote pay
Yeye dey smell

If they tell you,the sacrifice that Dangote pays daily to be at the Position,you will be Shocked........Abraham was a tither and he was Greatly Blessed,the owners of Colgate ,Coaker oath was a Crazy tither,he gave 90% as tithe and today,the is a household name.
My dear,Dont be deceived this TITHE Works.

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Nobody: 4:29pm On Nov 02, 2014

daniwealth:

If they tell you,the sacrifice that Dangote pays daily to be at the Position,you will be Shocked........Abraham was a tither and he was Greatly Blessed,the owners of Colgate ,Coaker oath was a Crazy tither,he gave 90% as tithe and today,the is a household name.
My dear,Dont be deceived this TITHE Works.

Alhaji Dangote... Tithe-payer

But you forgot to mention the owners of Gulder, Harp, Star, Heineken, Samsung, I phone, Walmart, Chelsea, Man City... I can continue till midnight.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Eyop: 4:34pm On Nov 02, 2014

Pyrrho:
Alhaji Dangote... Tithe-payer

...don't mind him,i just dey one corner dey observe jejely.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by duni04(m): 4:38pm On Nov 02, 2014

plaetton:

Shut up slowpoke.
You are an African.
I don't have time to exchange words with any mental slave, black African that calls himself seed of Abraham.
Such self -deprecation is nauseating as well as pitiful.
Tu tu tu Tufiakwa.

ROTFLMAO!

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by christemmbassey(m): 4:46pm On Nov 02, 2014

Eyop:

...don't mind him,i just dey one corner dey observe jejely.

da abadie?

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Nobody: 4:48pm On Nov 02, 2014

plaetton:

Shut up slowpoke.
You are an African.
I don't have time to exchange words with any mental slave, black African that calls himself seed of Abraham.
Such self -deprecation is nauseating as well as pitiful.
Tu tu tu Tufiakwa.

uncalled for , so you see a white man as superior. you are the mentally sick person . if only you know how many africans are changing the world positively.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by mbulela: 4:52pm On Nov 02, 2014

jdilight:

I didn't cause anyone. When I say shall not prosper, I mean it. Their scheme to bring down the church of God will never see the light of the day. This prayer was not directed to anyone in particular, but to everyone. If you think my prayer is unchrist-like, what do you make of Christ prayer, "the church of God shall move forward and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it?"

The usual traits; manipulation, seduction and control.

In your mind those that do not share your hole-filled view are from hell, abi?

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by mbulela: 4:55pm On Nov 02, 2014

daniwealth:

If they tell you,the sacrifice that Dangote pays daily to be at the Position,you will be Shocked........Abraham was a tither and he was Greatly Blessed,the owners of Colgate ,Coaker oath was a Crazy tither,he gave 90% as tithe and today,the is a household name.
My dear,Dont be deceived this TITHE Works.

You forgot Heineken and even the Buddhist, Steve Jobs. Mad tithers too, abi?

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by plaetton: 4:57pm On Nov 02, 2014

majekdom2:
uncalled for , so you see a white man as superior. you are the mentally sick person . if only you know how many africans are changing the world positively.

Huh?

Did you not understand?

I was rebuking the religiotard for referring to himself as a seed of Abraham.

How is it possible, what kind of mental degradation would make a black skinned African to call himself a seed of Abraham?

Has our society failed so much so that our children are not taught in schools that they are bona fide Africans.

I don't know what is worse for me.
The nausea or the great pity for a person who doesn't know or who has sold his self identity for a porridge of toxic religion.

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Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Nctrice(m): 4:57pm On Nov 02, 2014

patrickmuf:
Lmao Nick you sound like i'm a Muslim... Pls note my position hasn't changed about religion... Religion is a cage and I'm a free man, we don't align...

am not saying you are a Muslim either! Am just saying that you should be pleased that majority of Christians in our today's world know how to be "selective" like you wrongly put it... for there could be some part of the scriptures that teaches Christians how to be radical to unbelievers but for the grace of God Christians know that's which is Godly...

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by Eyop: 5:04pm On Nov 02, 2014

christemmbassey:
da abadie?

Edidem idioko oooo...

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by seagullbabz(m): 5:04pm On Nov 02, 2014

christemmbassey:
i know it all boil down to greed, d quest to acquire t whole world, what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world....

Whatever rocks your boat bro

Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by christemmbassey(m): 5:13pm On Nov 02, 2014

Eyop:

Edidem idioko oooo...

chairman, mbok what is ur opinion on dis tithe scam?

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