Yooguyz

https://www.nairaland.com/1422579/scan-passport-past-jehovahs-witnesses

PAULGRUNDY 'nairaland impersonator'

https://www.nairaland.com/1939359/intl-passport-jw-past-presidents

paulgrundy

Ok ok seen it, thanks for the correction

Yooguyz:

The word being translated to
"homosexual" in 1 Corithians 6,
and 1 Timothy 1 is
"arsenokoitai." This word does
not appear in Greek writings
prior to Paul's use of it in the NT.
Nobody knows for sure what
meaning Paul was trying to
convey by it's use. If the meaning
Paul wanted to convey was
homosexual, then he would have
used the word "paiderasste",
which was the term used at the
time for male homosexual. The
word "paiderasste" does not
appear in the Bible.
"Arsenokoitai" is made up of two
parts: "arsen" means "man";
"koitai" means "beds." Literally
translated "arsenokoitai" is a
"male-bedder." It is interesting to
note that during the time of
Martin Luther, the word was
universally translated as
masturbators untill the 20th
century.
Male-bedder has also been
interpreted to mean a male
prostitute. Which seems to me
would be much closer to it's
meaning than homosexual.
The Greek word being translated
as effeminate is "malakoi." The
word appears two other times in
the NT, both times being
translated as "soft." Taken in the
context of this passage some
believe it to actually mean "soft in
morals." Within it's context, that
meaning makes more sense than
it does as a descriptive of a
person's outward mannerisms.
Jesus, himself, never says one
word against homosexuality. If it
is the grave sin it is made out to
be, then you would think that
Jesus would have mentioned it.
In fact, Jesus may have confirmed
that homosexuals are from birth
in Matthew 19:11. The modern
meaning of the word eunuch is a
castrated male. However, in
ancient times it was a broad
term that included any man who
lacked sexual desire for women
for whatever reason. Hence, their
use as chamberlains or officers
in the Bible.
Jesus even states that not
everyone can accept this word. If
the ancient term "eunuch" did
indeed include homosexuals
(some surviving ancient Roman
literature points to this), then
Jesus was proven right, some
cannot accept that
homosexuality is normal and
natural from birth

paulGrundy:



So all the gra gra and [size=14pt]over sabi[/size] wey Mynd44 dey do na for nothing!

Am beginning to see sense in Yungwizzy's comment.

samflexxy:
U be detective ni

BERNIMORE: : i only try to also remind you that since jonah did not change his words when the destruction of ninevah never occured before he died, russel too never change anything he said about 1914 before he died, maybe you have dig and search for any changes russel might have made but you cant lay your hand on any, you seem to be hard pressed, hence you decide to put russel vs yahshua ...or major/minor prophets,

and it would be unfair if after failing to show if russel had changed what he said about 1914 to another date to now force what he did not say or changes he did not make on him, you easily try to separate jonah and nahum prediction of doom on nineveh which both never witnessed. but tried to force what russel did not change before he died on him...are you fair? brother, i want fairness to these jehovahs witnesses, no matter how you tried to mix these facts up, it would be separated!

It seems like you forgot to add the fact that paulGrundy and yooguyz do not agree on homosexuality infact, paulgrundy is repulsed to homosexual practices.

https://www.nairaland.com/1976976/vine-said-homosexuality-not-sin

Bernimoore

3, funny enough he creates this thread and quoting himself to deceive people that he counsels himself about homosexuality https://www.nairaland.com/1976976/vine-said-homosexuality-not-sin

BERNIMOORE:



i have treated that,The thread was a 'decoy' as you quoted yourself there to deceive people that you are not the same, the veil is removed now! you did not deny it here https://www.nairaland.com/1918340/story-paul-grundy see my comment again

so your plan was busted in the OP (3) go back and read again;



how come you oyibo man as you impersonate dey use ''over sabi'' and gra gra when you never enter naija before? https://www.nairaland.com/1961940/oluwaseun-osewa-worth-over-6million#27370695 im i lying? ole!

samflexxy:
U be detective ni

bernimore: paulgrundy(impersonator) breaks nairaland rule 15. Don't attempt to post censored words by misspelling them breaking nairaland own rules at will(i have a snapshot even if he changed it, just watch)

r.a.pists
https://www.nairaland.com/1988061/r.a.pists-should-treated-respectfully-during

1, in this thread, the real 'JWfacts paulgrundy' http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/malawi-mexico-oath-allegiance.php talk about passport application in bold (of which i have proved the forgery)

but 'nairaland impersonator' yooguyz fails to see 'application' and mistake it for the 'passport card

he post this as a topic using his first Nairaland ID (1)'Yooguyz' and (2)his paulgrundy ID respectively thus; 'Included are scans of Governing Body President Nathan Knorr’s signature below the Oath of Allegiance on his passport application'.


he wrongly says ; scan-passport-past-jehovahs-witnesses
(1)
Yooguyz
https://www.nairaland.com/1422579/scan-passport-past-jehovahs-witnesses
Int'l Passport Of JW Past Presidents J.f.rutherford & Nathan Knor by paulGrundy(impersonator) yooguyz
(2)
PAULGRUNDY 'nairaland impersonator'
https://www.nairaland.com/1939359/intl-passport-jw-past-presidents

is application form same as passport itself?
he could not comprehend paulgrundy and fumbled

2, in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1918340/story-paul-grundy he( 'nairaland impersonator' is yooguyz) could not comprehend 'JWfacts paulgrundy's story as he was corrected by Honeychild
paulgrundy
Ok ok seen it, thanks for the correction

3, funny enough he creates this thread and quoting himself to deceive people that he counsels himself about homosexuality https://www.nairaland.com/1976976/vine-said-homosexuality-not-sin

4, i have earlier engaged him and [size=20pt]he told me homosexuality is same as self service[/size]

read it https://www.nairaland.com/1433880/gay-xtians-put-off-unnatural-deceitfull

Yooguyz:

The word being translated to
"homosexual" in 1 Corithians 6,
and 1 Timothy 1 is
"arsenokoitai." This word does
not appear in Greek writings
prior to Paul's use of it in the NT.
Nobody knows for sure what
meaning Paul was trying to
convey by it's use. If the meaning
Paul wanted to convey was
homosexual, then he would have
used the word "paiderasste",
which was the term used at the
time for male homosexual. The
word "paiderasste" does not
appear in the Bible.
"Arsenokoitai" is made up of two
parts: "arsen" means "man";
"koitai" means "beds." Literally
translated "arsenokoitai" is a
"male-bedder." It is interesting to
note that during the time of
Martin Luther, the word was
universally translated as
masturbators untill the 20th
century.
Male-bedder has also been
interpreted to mean a male
prostitute. Which seems to me
would be much closer to it's
meaning than homosexual.
The Greek word being translated
as effeminate is "malakoi." The
word appears two other times in
the NT, both times being
translated as "soft." Taken in the
context of this passage some
believe it to actually mean "soft in
morals." Within it's context, that
meaning makes more sense than
it does as a descriptive of a
person's outward mannerisms.
Jesus, himself, never says one
word against homosexuality. If it
is the grave sin it is made out to
be, then you would think that
Jesus would have mentioned it.
In fact, Jesus may have confirmed
that homosexuals are from birth
in Matthew 19:11. The modern
meaning of the word eunuch is a
castrated male. However, in
ancient times it was a broad
term that included any man who
lacked sexual desire for women
for whatever reason. Hence, their
use as chamberlains or officers
in the Bible.
Jesus even states that not
everyone can accept this word. If
the ancient term "eunuch" did
indeed include homosexuals
(some surviving ancient Roman
literature points to this), then
Jesus was proven right, some
cannot accept that
homosexuality is normal and
natural from birth


hence to rubbish his enemy (jehovahs witnesses) he creates this thread to misrepresent and to justify his status https://www.nairaland.com/1988038/self-service-leads

https://www.nairaland.com/1433880/gay-xtians-put-off-unnatural-deceitfull

4,he speaks our Nigerian pidgin, but forgot that on his profile he was an oyibo man that have never lived in nigeria before https://www.nairaland.com/1961940/oluwaseun-osewa-worth-over-6million#27370695
paulGrundy:



So all the gra gra and over sabi wey Mynd44 dey do na for nothing!

Am beginning to see sense in Yungwizzy's comment

Rilwayne001:
# busted

yooguyz aka paulgrundy impersonator Don't take any of his quotes seriously, he is a pathetic liar. Here he was calling me an atheist

Yooguyz

good evening op,
i have never paid tithe in my life and i don't intend on paying tithe but let those who do keep doing it, *in my mind* #deluded bunch of tithe paying folks# [size=14pt]I am a Caktholic christian but i dont believe in God, in fact religion is the opium of the masses[/size].
YOU can ATTACK me cos am used to attacks infact i'll welcome one so far it's sincere #but if i troll you with multiple id's eh?#
funny thing about me i don't even believe in the bible am quoting it's for gullible people
you know yourself

the next post on your same disclaimer thread concur with me and expose you as a crafty liar

and also advised you to deactivate your account

joeace2020

(m): 3:08pm On Sep 14 2014
I had to follow you guys down here and yooguys is a pathological liar.... and to actually think i thought someone was wrongly accusing you. You should bow your head in shame, apologize for your lifestyle of scam and hypocrisy and [size=14pt]deactivate your account[/size]

jared007: 8:11am On Sep 13th 2014 ....don't be silly winsomeX the pharisee. The gospel and d church is to convert a sinner and not a holier than thou hypocrate like u. Do not dwell on d past deeds of yooguyz. Do u know if he has repented? Yooguyz my advice is dat u change ur nairaland monicker.

Yooguyz

: On Sep 16, 2013

what i can say is am disappointed by the attitude displayed by so-called christians in this forum. Smh. Even after making my intentions clear, what i get in response is hate speech and a christian supporting hatred. What happened to John 13:35
" by this shall all men know that you are my DISCIPLES if ye have LOVE ONE to ANOTHER"
[size=14pt]no wonder many athiests call xtainity a hypocrital religion[/size]! Judging by the above scripture All i can say is we DON'T HAVE CHRISTIANS IN NAIRALAND! finito!

Let me speak for paulGrundy on this: poor guy

Don't you know that [size=14pt]oyinbo men who grew up in naija can speak pidgin english very well[/size]? I have one oyinbo man in my backyard that can speak pidgin wella

[quote]Yooguyz

Suprisely he never provided evidence to show his claim he was not screaming 'forgery' 'forgery' in paulgrundys version of the thread, which I copied from.

https://www.nairaland.com/1939359/intl-passport-jw-past-presidents

If you through the passport you will observe that it has a stamp on itn which proves that it is authentic.

yooguyz

The picture is obviously a passport not an application

Yooguyz

Obviously another lie never said that, you read it in the post below

Yooguyz

:


Literally
translated "arsenokoitai" is a
"male-bedder." It is interesting to
note that during the time of
Martin Luther, [size=14pt]the word was
universally translated as
masturbators [/size]

Jesus, himself, never says one
word against homosexuality. If it
is the grave sin it is made out to
be, then you would think that
Jesus would have mentioned it.
In fact, [size=14pt]Jesus may have confirmed
that homosexuals are from birth
in Matthew 19:11[/size].

Jesus was proven right, [size=14pt]some
cannot accept that
homosexuality is normal and
natural from birth[/size]

samflexxy:
U be detective ni

BERNIMOORE:


let the forumites judge with the date- (chronology) of your posts

(1)@ about 10:47pm On Apr 11, 2013 yooguyz post; https://www.nairaland.com/1253965/implication-tithing#15197331



(2) 9:16pm On Aug 28 2014 after 16 good months you just remember to create a so called disclaimer in desperation! and presenting it as if you had earlier disclaimed the thread! an AFTERTHOUGHT! and trembling had forced you to create this next thread impromptu; https://www.nairaland.com/1877865/yooguyz-athiest ,so now when do you clarify yourself before Aug 28? the same 28th aug 2014 the same day that i (bernimoore) faced you with your own undeniable statement of fact! and warned you that 'if you tell mods to remove it, it is already in snapshot true or false?

the next post on your same disclaimer thread concur with me and expose you as a crafty liar

and also advised you to deactivate your account!

.

your friend and supporter jared007 also advised you to change ur nairaland monicker!


https://www.nairaland.com/1892195/truth-behind-christ-embassy-healing/13#26264055

im i still lying? ok are you sarcastical when you still allude to atheist view in this thread;

https://www.nairaland.com/505782/questions-comments-complaints-talk-moderators/256



you dont have such organised proof about me! i have the chronology ok?

CANTICLES: @ Yooguyz ...... The Watchtower is not advising any witness to just copy and paste from watchtower, awake or reasoning ! You have to study the bible urself, be convinced of the truth ....The slogan is " make the truth your own" ! Do u know Adolf Hitler ?? Do u know Mussolini ?? Do u know Duplesis ?? .... They Rise and fall when dey attack the witnesses of the Most High, honestly speaking ... U will soon end up like them if you fail to change !! Just mark my words

BERNIMOORE:

so paulgrundy(impersonator) cannot further speak pidgin again after this expose, i dey die here for laugh o! let paulgrundy(impersonator) tell us which part he lived in Naija and show us from jwfacts.com, fowl yansh don don open ati ri furo adiye


.

'oyinbo men who grew up in naija can speak pidgin english very well' did paulgrundy grew up in NAIJA?


you are so confused let paulgrundy(impersonator) defends himself and tell us where he lived or stayed in Naija, very quickly

Jessicha:



am seriously laughing here , nice counter attack @ bold

paulGrundy:


BERNIMORE is long dead and buried, so stop wasting your time! Your rank and file decided that his approach is no longer yeilding results and his decided to drop him. I think responding to one of my rebuttals would be much more effective than this gorilla attack. Maybe I should open about 5 exposes on the watchtower before this week runs out, what do you think?

paulGrundy:


BERNIMORE is long dead and buried, so stop wasting your time! Your rank and file decided that his approach is no longer yeilding results and his decided to drop him. I think responding to one of my rebuttals would be much more effective than this gorilla attack. Maybe I should open about 5 exposes on the watchtower before this week runs out, what do you think?

Jessicha:



am seriously laughing here , nice counter attack @ bold

BERNIMOORE:


did paulgrundy grew up in NAIJA? Paulgrundy impersonator A.K.A Yooguyz cannot answer that question, yet he posted the real paulgrundy's picture as His 'true picture' in his profile, How can such a person be taking as a honest man.

Yooguyz: Jesus, himself, never says one
word against homosexuality. If it
is the grave sin it is made out to
be, then you would think that
Jesus would have mentioned it.
In fact, Jesus may have confirmed
that homosexuals are from birth
in Matthew 19:11.

paulGrundy:

Yooguyz: Jesus, himself, never says one
word against homosexuality. If it
is the grave sin it is made out to
be, then you would think that
Jesus would have mentioned it.
In fact, Jesus may have confirmed
that homosexuals are from birth
in Matthew 19:11.

Are you serious? Am just seeing this now,
An eunuch in that context is not a gay, he is a castrated one employed to be a guard, it is believed then that castration make a man stronger.

paulGrundy:



kpele, yesterday she was furious @ how the 3 of our guys were unreachable (phones switched off).

@dahveydson, have u received any call for medicals yet?

Yooguyz:


I think so, they may be the same.



Yeeeh!!!! My belle won burst oh!!!!

I don laff tire

BERNIMORE you've lost the great e-battle kpele. Why am I even suprised, its in your blood. Your leaders failed in their predictions, failed in doctrine. How do you expect to win Grow up kid!

yooguyz:It was intended to be a sarcastic reply

paulGrundy:


I was only trying to be sarcastic..

This is a case of sarcasm gone sour.

By the way, threads that are critical of JW's aka watchtower is his invitation card.

Yooguyz:
Let me speak for paulGrundy on this: poor guy




[size=28pt]Mumu[/size] are you that dumb? Don't you know that oyinbo men who grew up in naija can speak pidgin english very well? I have one oyinbo man in my backyard that can speak pidgin wella.

Anyway I have busted you sha, sorry canticles your other handle has now been tainted with your bad reputation, its such a pity that he didn't actualize his dream of making frontpage

https://www.nairaland.com/1990742/bernimore-truthislight-canticles-loveroftruth-biblespeaks#27897652

BERNIMOORE:

so paulgrundy(impersonator) cannot further speak pidgin again after this expose, i dey die here for laugh o! let paulgrundy(impersonator) tell us which part he lived in Naija and show us from jwfacts.com, fowl yansh don don open ati ri furo adiye


.

'oyinbo men who grew up in naija can speak pidgin english very well' did paulgrundy grew up in NAIJA?


you are so confused let paulgrundy(impersonator) defends himself and tell us where he lived or stayed in Naija, very quickly

BERNIMOORE:


It's Not a Co incidence That a man Yooguyz who professed to be a Gay and a pastor on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1439402/christians-chatbox actually is Paulgrundy 'impersonator with 4 strong words among others that he 'yoouguyz' use often

It not a crime though for him to change from yooguyz to 'paulgrundy' but the Motive to 'hide the fact that he is A gay and trying to counsel on that issue of Gay to confuse
1. Moderators
2.Forum Users.

i have proved the first Two earlier the thread; (1)Troll (2) Gra-Gra

The Use of
(3a and 3b)''kpele''
(4a and 4b)''Sarcastic/sarcasm'' youguyz/paulgrundy often get out of trouble when caught red handed saying: ''It was intended to be a sarcastic reply''

below is the Same Man ''yooguyz'' who now believed to have transformed as ''paulgrundy'' on Nairaland but forgot that 'leopard cant change its spot'

(3a)KPELE .......As paulgrundy
https://www.nairaland.com/741622/uba-aptitude-test-what-expect/185#44013242

https://www.nairaland.com/2027865/soyinka-biased-romance-apc-he/1#49416782
(3b)KPELE .......As yooguyz


(4a)Sarcastic......As yooguyz ''
sarcastic here is it https://www.nairaland.com/1447917/religion-complaints-thread-sticky/9


(4b)Sarcastic......As paulgrundy
https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?topic=2273569&post=34987747

Anas09:

I know one too. Was born here, went to Nursery, primary and secondary school here, only went over there for university. He is back here managing his fathers comoany. He has Nigerian friends every where, he hadly even has their own accent sef. He is a Nigeiran complete. If na that one, the op don goofe.